YES YOU ARE LOSING OUT!!! - SiMagic Haptics on any Sim Racing Pedals !!!
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- You could be losing lap time on every lap!!! The SiMagic P-HPR (Haptic Pedals Reactor) will make you faster & they can now be fitted to almost any pedal set, let me show you how!
CHAPTERS:
What You Need - 02:45
Software - 05:03
On Track - 12:05
Conclusion - 15:34
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love your sense of humor....
Thanks for watching matey it’s appreciated 🙌🏻
"Vigorously, I'm Sure."
-Sim Circuit 2024
😂😂 I know 🤦🏼♂️ I come up with some random shite.
@@TheSimCircuit You're the best. Keep it coming. You going to retire from your day job soon enough!
😂 thanks for the vote of confidence matey but be a long long time before that day comes. ❤
Thanks for this, been looking at these for a while - you just convinced me to place the order ☺️
Honestly mate, even if SiMagic made the price double I would still be recommending these. They are fantastic, start with one shaker if you feel you need another you can always get one then. Best bang for buck performance improving accessory for sim racing in my opinion 🙌🏻
@@TheSimCircuit I have the Asetek Forte pedals, so Ive ordered two (for Brake and Accelerator) - I play ACC
100% worth getting two if you are racing on ACC matey 🙌🏻 enjoy hope they bring you loads of wins 😊
Only haptics in the game worth using. They are so strong they feel like simicubes active pedals. They legit are strong af and amazing. I have the p1000s with hydraulics otw and have the haptics.
I was shocked by how many people didnt know what 100% braking means or theeshold braking.
Yall 100% braking doesnt mean salm it to the floor. 100% braking means using 100% of the brake you have available just before lockup. These help you with that so so much. We get into a flow and forget to track it so we get super into the race and start over braking just enough we dont notice it much well these help eliminate that bad habbit.
One thing i love about simagic wheelbases also nobody points out. Is it will vibrate when you have abs kick in and when you have tc kicking on. Those frecuencies you feel and the littoe vibrations are it telling you the wheel also flashes. I love simagic thought of this.
Thanks again for watching matey 🙌🏻 I am going to need to organise a SiMagic base I am only hearing good things 🤔
@@TheSimCircuit put it to you this way. I now own the ultimate and it reminds me of simucube now on the v3 ultimate. Legit identical. Smooth as butter also. Picks up on low mid and high frequencies beautifully. Great wheel speed and snap on corrections. Ita also more flowy then most bases so you can oush and feel the forces but able to move through them helps you find the limit of grip way easier instead of a wheel with to much inirtia. Love love the feel of it. I own the dd+ also the newer fanatec base I like the simagic way more. Simagics latest software and bases are amazing. They have just kept improving things. Def isn't the simagic of 3 years ago. I'm serious when I say identical to simucube. What's funny is simucube actually has even more coil whine and is louder with its frequencies then simagic. The higher end brands actually utilize those things for details as simucube has confirmed. Its almost like simagic has some how refined it.
I love that I can feel the motor vibrations at high rpm also it matches up with the car identically. People aren't used to that so they think it may be an unwanted effect but me now I can't live without it. Almost tells you if the car is balanced or now. But yeah it's somehow such a smooth base through all of that also. I just love that it does things other bases dont with frequencies and stuff except for simucube again they do it also. Dd+ will with fullforce but I don't like fanatecs built in dampening and inirtia it doesn't feel natural to me and you can turn it off and it's still there.
My experience was good but I sold my ultimate in favour of the Simucube 2 Pro. I just love the simplicity of the software and the ability to find great profiles very quickly. Simagic make great stuff but their software leaves a little to be desired.
@@WittyGooseRacing hey I can get that and tbh the only base I would rver even consider is simicube. No others it's simagic or simucube now not even asetek. Everyone has way over hyped asetek because of will. I'm sry but I don't like there built in inirtia either. Like in acc you cannot adjust the high speed inirtia out it's way to heavy even lower settings snd feels very unnatural. It's not heavy because of ffb either it's an effect they use that isn't in the game and no other wheels do this. Which tells me they also like fanatec use built in effects that you cannot adjust out. I do not like that I want to be able to find the limit of grip not rely on very small movements until I push past only center forces and then I get yanked. It's just not as good as simucube or simagic. Even if asetke is using simucubes motor.
It's that new brand hype people have. But yeah I agree with laurence he pointed out the same things. Great base for sure super detailed just nit the feeling I look for. I want to feel the raw nice polished clean feel.
Simagics software has also improved so much with the newer simpro2 there latest update from 2 months ago was amazing. I felt there software was lacking also. But the base and the reaction to the settings now is great. Luckily somagic is also starting to make wheels that work with simhub like the gt neo and they just leaked a patent for a new f1 wheels. So looks like simagic has a new f1 wheel coming. That should also be simhub compliant but we shall see.
@@reviewforthetube6485 ... I had Simucube2 Pro for 3 years, recently i move to Asetek Invicta and i enjoy it better then Simucube. More response and fill on all frequencies of FFB. Simucube is a top brand regarding simracing hardware but they are not alone and there are some better or clever solutions in the market.
I clicked for the haptics, I stayed for the pron humor…
😂 thanks for watching matey it’s much appreciated 🙌🏻
@@TheSimCircuit Thanks for the awesome content 😀
Timely video! I just received my SiMagic shakers in the mail yesterday, BUT... I am still awaiting my 3D printed adapters to put them on my Simgrade VX-Pro pedals, which wont arrive until Tuesday (Shakes fist in the air!) Can't wait to give them a go!
Be worth the short wait matey 🙌🏻 let me know in a week or two if they made a difference in your driving & thanks for watching 😊
I bought Fanatec Clubsport V3 with the brake damper mod and shakers on the gas and brake a while back. Fanalab profile configured to dial in the actuation properly and avoid them going over the top, and haptics particularly on the brake pedal feels great. So accustomed to it and it immediately improved my braking performance. However I need the next step up now I have a Simagic Alpha wheel but I hope that my next pedals have haptic feedback built in to the rear of the piston instead of the pedal because that will feel even better. I’m glad to see haptics kits getting more popular though :)
Haptics definitely makes a huge improvement on the driving experience 🙌🏻 I’m also glad to see them getting popular and more easy to use and implement 👍🏻thank you for watching 😃
Wow wa wee wow, I wasn’t expecting that 😳. I have just received mine today, nice timing
Nice 😊 what did you get today the haptics?
@@TheSimCircuityes mate for my Simgrade VX Pro. So aggressive I’ve gone down from 100 percent to 45. What is your setting, I need to check back on your video ?
@@WittyGooseRacing the motor output tab is like a main volume knob just keep that at 100% then in the effect tab you can adjust the “volume” strength of each effect separately. This is great if you are running multiple effects on one shaker 👍🏻
@@TheSimCircuitI’m mainly iRacing so just ABS for my brake. Decent upgrade, yeah I make a mistake here or there but the next lap I now have some feedback that I can modulate around to avoid it happening again. Keep up the great content
@@WittyGooseRacingI think I’m running at 50% & 35 hz. Yea they got some power, doubt anyone will be running them at 100% 🤔
Thanks for this man, I will be picking up some today.
Maybe an idea to do an updated review of your experiences with the asetek wheelbase. There isn't too many reviews after an extended period of use.
Thanks for watching matey 🙌🏻 I will try and do another update video but it will be later in the year. I have quite allot to work through and realistically with my time I have I can only do 2-3 videos a month.
I hope I get an answer from you because I asked a few RUclipsrs and none gave any feedback, thanks in advance and this is a great video 👍
🙌🏻🙌🏻 I do reply but unfortunately you won’t like the answer to your question matey 🤦🏼♂️ hopefully console support will come soon but will need some sort of 3de party software to make them work
0:46 - Thanks mate, that's my pizza going in the bin.
😂😂😂 there was another clip I really wanted to use but chose this as it was the milder of the two.
If I used that clip the fridge & freezer would have been binned 😂
You hit the nail on the head when you say these offer a simple entry into bringing tactile immersion to pedals.
Also that they have been widely adapted for many pedal options.
I have two of these myself. Yet they do have certain limitations and drawbacks when it comes to other affordable possibilities....
In comparison, what your missing out on, is much better feeling sensations, from various effects that are possible.
Below is a summary of specific items you really should consider looking into for a future video on tactile and I would have loved to of seen your own impressions with.
Nobsound NS-20G Mini Digital Power Amplifier @ £65
StarTech 7.1 USB - External Sound Card @ £33
Neccessary cables @ £10
Dayton Audio EX32VBDS-4 @ £38 (each)
For under £190 its possible to have stereo based effects on pedals that operate over a much wider frequency range (with specially created effects).
Simply delivering felt sensations that are not possible with any of the motor based options and also better than TT25 or BST transducers.
Hey matey just checking did you email me before? I might confuse you for someone else thou. I am going to give this a try and compare but will take me 2-3 months but il get it done 👍🏻
@@TheSimCircuit Ok cool, will respond to your email, I would love to help you out on this if I can.
Yet at the same time, understand you need to come at it from your own experiences, is important you have full control in offering your own opinions and comparisons.
Love your channel! I have a Dbox system, so I'm thinking that these would be redundant for me......or would they?
Oh DBox is amazing would love one of them but to answer your question no I don’t think it would be redundant and I have briefly used motion simulators in the past. Because the shaker is connected directly to the pedals I assure you that you will feel it through your feet even if your dbox is already shaking you.
Won’t cost you allot so even if you don’t feel them you won’t loose much but I can say with a certain amount of certainty that once they mounted you won’t take them off 😉
This shit cracked me up 😂😂😂 great video mate!
Thank you matey happy I could make you laugh 🙌🏻
Good vid I just picked mine up last week.
Anyone using HE+ with stock pedals. Skip the brackets or 3d print mount. The motor and plate can connect directly to the extra pedal mount holes with long enough m3 screws and nuts . Sunk screws for a clean mount . I have my pedals at lowest position so I can use two screws. But it should even hold with only one screw. It is super clean mounting this way and you get maximum feel from the motors.
Great so don’t even need a bracket on the HU ultimates 🙌🏻
@@TheSimCircuit nope just the round plate the motor mounts on. You just need two (or one) longer length m3 screws + nut/washer. I didn’t even need to remove the pedals.
@@RATTMANthis is very encouraging, thanks for sharing. Wish I could see pics because I have SimCore fat boi pedals on my HE+… might just have to order and tinker (per usual) lol. Cheers.
I like your style mate ;-)
Thanks matey 🙌🏻
Got three of these on my VRS pedals and I absolutely love them 😊 Unfortunately I never got to try the Simucube Active Pedals yet, so I can't compare.
I used the active pedals for about 10-15 minutes and look you can’t compare, the Active pedals are boss but if you take price into account then these shakers are hard to beat 🙌🏻
Original Simagic bracket also can be used on almost any pedals, I did tutorial about it. This really is great upgrade (I use it on brake and throttle).
That’s good to know, I don’t think would have worked on any of mine but then again I never tried 🤔
Have these attached to fanatec v3s (got them attached using p2000 brackets with some rotation and extra screws) for like 6 months now works great but have my abs set to 11hz
I need to play around a little more with the pulse and hz settings I’m sure I can make that shaker even better 🤔
Thanks for the info. I really enjoy your content!…would you use these haptics with a buttkicker? Also, do you know where to get a 3D attachment for Asetek Invicta Series S pedals, I’m not finding any. Thank you!
Hey matey thanks for watching 🙌🏻 I do have a buttkicker and yes you can use it alongside to get even more feedback.
Here is link to design I used for Invicta pedals but it’s a paid file. I seen some solutions on Etsy’s alternatively.
cults3d.com/en/3d-model/gadget/simagic-p-hpr-haptic-pedals-reactor-mount-for-asetek-pedals
Phenomenal tutorial mate! Have you by any chance tried how it works for example formula cars where the break has lockup detection and the throttle has wheelspin detection?
Thank you matey 🙌🏻 I have not tested either wheel slip or wheel lock but both those settings are available for you to use. Actually think that running wheel lock on cars that don’t have ABS might be very useful 🤔 think I will give it a go in next week or two 🙌🏻
@@TheSimCircuit Epic, thank you for the reply! Stoked to hear what you think!
I have one haptic motor attached to the bottom of my seat, configured for rpms and gear shift. And it’s gorgeus!! I am not gonna play without it anymore. And I am going to order two more motors for my Asetek pedals.
Hey new to this sim racing stuff and looking at getting a set of haptic pedals, how did u connect / Config it to ur seat :)
@@bearsa5817 veeeery easy, you need simhub software (shown on this video). I’ve connected it to clutch port (no. 1) and set for gearshift function and rpms (you can assign many functions to one motor, but don’t take too much) in Shaker motors tab in Simhub. You can find video on youtube how to configure that as well.
Very clever, I was actually thinking of doing something similar, did you extend the cable yourself on the haptic or buy an extension for it?
I have a butkicker but it’s too loud for me. Mounting a SiMagic haptic to seat sounds like a boss of an idea to me 🙌🏻
@@TheSimCircuit proper way I think is to buy DC extension cord.
I had difficulty explaining the benefits of these to my wife after the first minute of the video :D
That’s your mistake matey it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. Do first explain later 😂😂 works for me 😉
I'm really interested in trying these on my Asetek Invicta break and throttle. Btw what kind of settings would you use with a throttle?
I don’t use the one on the throttle to be honest mate, tc don’t work on iRacing but if you play ACC then you can run TC on the throttle and that is very handy. You can also run other effects like road textures, rpm & gear shifts
Hi, can we use haptic on throttle on I-Racing when you hit curbs? Thanks for the video.
Yes matey you can set that up on your throttle I believe road textures will cover curbs 👍🏻
Super interesting video, did someone found a mount for the meca evo1 pedals?
Thanks for watching matey here is a link I found on Etsy for the Meca Evo pedals 😉
www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1612535818/
I have the simlab pedals. It wad really easy to drill and tap the aluminum on the back of the pedal. Mount like sim magic pedal and enjoy
This will be nice and clean looking 🤩 I have drilled plenty of holes but never taped. Going to get me the tap bits might be handy in future for other pedals 🤔
Simagic brackets will work with Heusinkveld pedals, there is a few videos on that
Very useful information thank you for sharing 🙌🏻
i use my buttkicker gamer 2 to let me know when abs hits .
Great video as always 🇩🇰🏴
I must admit I have a buttkicker but don’t use it much, only reason really it’s very noisy and unfortunately my sim rig is located right above our bedroom, not the type of vibrations my wife enjoys 😂🤦🏼♂️
@@TheSimCircuit 😂
Yesssss!!! You're the man! FJB😎
🙌🏻 Thank you as always matey 😉
I bought P1000 pedals with two haptics recently…. Would never want to race without them or something similar!
They are amazing 🤩 a lot of people think they are just like rumble motors but they are so much more. Thanks for watching matey 🙌🏻
When using the Haptics on third party pedals, does this mean you have to use SimPro Manager by Simagic for the pedal? Or is it possible to use VRS software and simhub only for reactors?
You can use simpro but it’s very basic best bet is run via simhub. I explain it all in the software section of this video 🙌🏻
@@TheSimCircuit but do I need to use simpro for the pedals? So is it require to plug in the data cables or would be the power cables of the haptics + simhub enough? So am I forced to use simpro for pedal calibration and adjustment? Or can I use VRS software + Simagic controller for haptics + simhub?
Btw overall a great video!
@@gotaqui you don’t need simpro at all unless you are using SiMagic pedals. If you own VRS pedals then use the VRS software & SimHub will take care of the haptics.
In ACC I mapped the one I have on the throttle to traction loss instead of TC using SimHub. Eventually after a bit of tweaking with the gamma I have a nice progressive rumble and the throttle as the traction get less and less. Now most of the time I have TC off.
Going to have to try this 🙌🏻 especially if you can feel the slip progressively. Do you mind sharing your SimHub settings for traction loss?
@@TheSimCircuit Effects Profile Tab: Power 100%, Gamma 3:05, Threshold and Minimum 0, Input Gain 100. Motors Output tab: Traction loss selected for left and right. No TC or anything else on that pedal. Just traction loss and it is working for me. I am so impressed with these things I am going to get the clutch one as well. More smiles per mile.
Also I put the Brake Frequency to 10hz and the Throttle to 25kz. both 100% to help my brain differentiate between the two better.
So this is similar to the Fanatec V3 pedals with vibration motors built in?
No the fanatec ones are small vibrating motors and only vibrate as in off or on you can’t really get different “feeling” from them. Haptics is a big weight that shakes and gives a much more detailed feedback.
4:28 there are the mounts I designed for the HE Sprints!
Great design matey they work perfectly 🙌🏻
great video, it made me go out and buy a 3d printer today. cant find the free file for the invictas you spoke about
Hey Andrew thanks for watching matey, 3d printer very handy not just for sim racing. I had a look I also can’t find the free Invicta file it might have been a paid for one but I don’t actually remember paying for it 🤔
@@TheSimCircuit yeah all good, don’t mind paying for something useful, but would rather the free one if there was an option. Love your channel btw
Does Simhub automatically overide Simpro Manager? Once haptic motors are connected they come up in Manager and are connected so is there a conflict between the two, do you have to disconnect the haptic motors from Simpro Manager in some way?
I normally don’t run simpro when I was using SimHub but yes I believe if both simhub and simpro is open it will use simhub over simpro. I will go and look tonight and make test to confirm this and get back to you 👍🏻
I run Manager so rev lights work on the rim.
hi, i have a question? does this simagic haptic pedal reactor also work with PlayStation 5? with GT7 and ACC?
Hey matey I am not sure if there is a work around but you will need software to run the shakers. So I believe they only work on pc at the moment
Yes. Simhub captures Gran Turismo 7 telemetry and is fantastic for dash displays and shakers and wind. Plus nothing even gets close to the fidelity of Gran Turismo 7 with Fanatec DD+ out of the box perfection. Extremely realistic driveability. No deficits. Having additional haptics seems to be something lesser fidelity games require.
@@herlegz6969 never played Gt7 but I can assure you that you dont need haptics for any game but they 100% improve the experience if you have them 🤷🏼♂️
Can u have wheels locking on the brake? ABS seems useless in any other sim than iRacing.
Yes you can matey and it’s great for cars that don’t have ABS 🙌🏻
I don't drive much on iRacing with ABS, mainly LMP2 and GTE. Worth getting for someone like myself still?
Depends matey if you exclusively drive with cars with no ABS then it won’t be much useful for you. You can map other things to the shaker like road texture, rpm or gear shifts but I would say the main benefit of these are for ABS on the brake and TC on throttle if sim allows it.
Stupid question, but why does knowing if you’re in ABS and at what percentage make you faster? Is it so you’re in ABS less?
Not stupid question matey. Abs is not a bad thing and using abs on cars that have it is great but ideally you don’t want to use to much of the abs as it will then make you slower. So braking hard and using lots of abs to not lock up your wheels will result in you exiting that corner slower even though you make the corner and apex. But say that same corner you brake a little earlier but with less pressure & the abs is still assisting you but not working hard to prevent locking up the wheels you should come out of the corner with more speed.
@@TheSimCircuit thank you so much, that explanation makes perfect sense to me!
i have the P2000 pedals.
what do i need to install 1 reactor?
With the pedals, there already is this box with the holes, do i need the haptic reactor box additionaly? also the power supply?
Hey matey, you will need the p2000 pedal module yes. Normally they come with brackets for the p2000 so that’s not something you will need to buy extra.
Will link 🔗 below just check your local retailers for same thing.
www.raceanywhere.co.uk/collections/haptic-feedback-and-motion/products/p2000-hcb-haptic-reactor-brackets
Yes you will also need a power supply 🙌🏻
@@TheSimCircuit so i need a control box, although my p2000 pedals already one with the 3 holes for the haptic reactors?
1 control box for the pedals only, and 1 control box for the haptic reactor, really?🤪
Cant believe i need 2 control boxes for that :D
@@the_stig_90no you must have a newer version of p2000 that come with the box built in then, the module for the p2000 that were bought before the p1000 got released
@@TheSimCircuit right i got the new version with the box included. So only brackets, reactor and power supply is what i need
How much better is it then a buttkicker on the pedal plate?
I have only ever had a butkicker under my seat not under pedals but what I reckon under pedal plate you will feel all pedals and rig vibrate where with them mounted on pedals you only feel the effect on the corresponding foot ie ABS on brake and tc/traction loss on the throttle.
10:00 in iracing use Wheel Slip instead of TC active. There's telemetry for that.
I am busy using wheel slip now because another viewer also pointed it out to me 🙌🏻 very helpful thank you 👍🏻
So if I only use iRacing, the haptics are useless for me?? Just double checking
No mate, the throttle shaker maybe not as useful in iRacing but brake shaker very useful. I use brake for ABS, cars with no abs I set to wheel lockup 👍🏻
Sooo any pedals you say. What about Logitech g923s?
lol yes like I said any pedals see the link below 😉
cults3d.com/en/3d-model/gadget/simagic-p-hpr-haptic-pedal-reactor-mount-for-logitech-pedals-g923-g29-g920-g27-g
Does the system operate with PS5/GT7?
No not natively, not sure if there is a work around however 🤷🏼♂️
This is better than other transducers? Or is it not?
They are very good know that but not sure if better yet I am doing tests with other transducers will make a video in the future 👍🏻
You're absolutely correct. Real s3x is better than sim racing.
😂 I’m not so sure I’m getting older now and I do enjoy a good competitive race also im not reminded of how unfit I am after a session of sim racing 😉
I believe this is more for iRacing rather than ACC (as per your thumbnail), I don't think ACC is so sensitive to abs so it's not so much of a game changer there
Depends on car I think, the gt-3 cars in iRacing also not that sensitive with abs because they made that way and made to be able to slam on the brakes, road cars will always give much more feedback but it’s still very handy I think. On ACC people love binding the TC to the haptics on the throttle. 🤷🏼♂️
Does it work on ps5?
I have not tried personally I have heard people say SimHub works on ps5 and if that’s the case I don’t see why not. But I’m guessing it will depend on if game provides telemetry data for shakers 🤷🏼♂️ sorry could not be more helpful
I would buy them, but I’m on console 😢
I have heard someone say they can work on ps5 but not seen or tried myself 🤷🏼♂️
Didn't even know that the MX-5 has ABS....?
Not adjustable abs like other cars but yes it has ABS in iRacing.
Haptics are great . The price of that gears pure garbage.
More pricy than buying your self and knowing what you are doing for sure. But well priced and packaged for people wanting a near plug and play solution I think 🤔