Manually cleaning the DPF on a Ford 6.7L Super Duty
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Using the manual diesel particulate filter clean option on an enabled Ford 6.7L. NOTE: There's a fair amount of sarcasm so please don't misinterpret the "wagging finger" telling you what to do. Manual regen is awesome but the exhaust end needs to be respected. OBDLinkMX Scan Tool (Windows and Android only): amzn.to/32394J4
OBDLinkMX+ Scan Tool (Windows, Android and iOS): amzn.to/2LiVKtl
Software to display truck gauges: FORScan Lite
My 2011 F350KR recently decided to identify as a 1960 F600. There was no talking him out of it and it’s now politically incorrect to ask about its emissions status. I have to admit... my 1960 F600 with no emissions equipment sounds great and has a lot of power. 😂🤣😂
LOL!
omg my truck made the same transition earlier this year.
I manually cleaned mine too, now it’s so clean you can’t even see it anymore
Lol!
That's pretty clean lol.
Wish my 2016 could do that , like u said as soon as u get near ur house or work it wants to clean. Good video
Epic, thanks to your video I cleaned my dpf yesterday. Removed it and will never be back on the truck.
You guys who aren't subject to yearly emissions tests have all the fun.
I’m glad you showed the temp on your garage wall. The last time I did mine, my wall which is 7 feet from the truck read 418 degrees. It really scared me, but all was okay. Not saying I’ll do it again.
It's a sobering experience for sure. We get warnings every day for seemingly everything that are easy to dismiss. This is one warning that shouldn't.
@@EpicCowlick Any reason why you did it inside the garage and not just back up a few feet into the open driveway?
@@scottcoleman7304 Just didn't appreciate how hot that exhaust stream is. That's the point of sharing this video. Maybe it saves someone from burning their house down?
The manual regen is no joke. A piece of cardboard or dry twig held in the exhaust stream will smoke and ignite almost immediately. Maxed out an 1100° IR thermometer.
I tend to dismiss most disclaimers but this is one that should be paid attention to.
You probably got quite of bit of comments already about this, but when doing a regen, you want the truck to be more outside. So that the heat exchange either on the exhaust or the engine can be lessen. you want to have some kind of wind blowing just to reduce the heat off the motor and exhaust.
Exactly right. That garage has opening on both ends so there was plenty of air that way but the wall being 4 feet from the exhaust is no bueno. Next time the rear end hangs outside... ;)
Thanks for the info, and don’t worry 99.9% of us understood (appreciated) the humor of the wagging finger, Lol.
I’d like to add something that might clear up some issues or questions and I will add a link for all to watch. This gentleman enabled OCR, Operator Command Regen, only ford offers this across their entire trim line from 2017 and up. Now, you can have your dealership enable it or you can order your truck with it turned on, or like this man, download FORSCAN and purchase an OBDll with a switch and do it yourself. This is how OCR works, if you don’t perform a DRIVE TO CLEAN often enough your truck will prompt you to perform an OCR. This occurs when the DPF soot level is at 120%, your trucks computer only reads to 99-100%. You must be stationary and please do it outside, I’ve done two in my driveway while mowing my yard, takes between 25-30 minutes. Nice thing about this option is no more having a shop do a static regen costing you hundreds, the problem, there are many and I will only speak of this one about DPF cleaning is the ash is still trapped inside your exhaust no one who sells you the truck will inform you, at 150-200k miles or even maybe before that, you will either have to take the exhaust off and hopefully a good cleaning agent and pressure washing will remove all the ash or you will spend 6k, ford trucks, for a new exhaust. I had my dealership turn on the OCR as a contingency to the purchase. How do you know if it is turned on, on the information screen you must have an option to see DPF SOOT LEVEL, in a percentage, if you see that, you have OCR turned on, now you can’t perform a manual regeneration at anytime you wish, the truck has to prompt you to do so. I will post two links to videos to clear anyone’s questions, oh and one more thing, the DPF is not covered under any warranty Ford or anyone else has, so, the 3year 36k bumper to bumper, it’s not covered, the 5year 100k Diesel engine warranty, nope, not covered, not one single manufacturer warranties their DPF’s, now they will tell you it is, but I know first hand it is not, my friend works at Fords warranty claims service dept, they reject all DPF warranty claims, no matter what, now that’s a bunch of BS, I will add one more thing, if you ever stop a regen or never fully complete a regen, ant warranty claim on DPF is VOIDED
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All good information. Thanks. I'm not clear on one part of your comment. You said that the ash is still trapped inside the exhaust system and at 150K-200K miles it will have to be removed to clean? Are you saying that diesel particulates accumulate even though regular or OCR regeneration has been done all along?
EpicCowlick yes, all that soot burned off, is only burned off the honeycomb style DPF, it then the ASH collects or gets trapped in the muffler/exhaust, you CANNOT burn off or out the ash, the entire exhaust must get removed and cleaned with a solvent and pressure washer. The radiator shop down the street from me does about 10-20 trucks per week. You will know when you need this done, when the truck seems to regen a lot more often, almost all will do it around 125-150k miles, yes you read that right, all will regen a lot more often around that mileage and you will have to physically remove the ash. Think of a wood burning stove, you burn off the wood and what happens to everything your burn off? It turns to ash and settles, more people need to do their homework before buying these modern diesels, I have one, but I know how to care for it and I know what’s coming with higher mileage, so I always trade in at 80-100k miles
@@FordF-Super Thanks for the reply. This is news to me as I was under the understanding that all the particulates caught in the DPF are burned to ash and blown out the tailpipe. I've never heard that ash will accumulate. I've always understood that improperly maintained DPFs can get to a point where diesel particulates plug up the DPF so severely that they can no longer be regenerated by the truck and only then must be removed for service.
I can’t believe you actually did that in your garage nice way to catch your house on Fire.
Knowledge is power! Water hose was ready as the temp went up.
scary temperatures. Now you have experienced what it's like in a motorpool garage. That plus the noise
Funny. I feel for you.
My shade tree mechanic buddy sprayed carb and choke cleaner in the exhaust while it's running and it actually cleaned the exhaust filter....
You didn't tell me squat on how to manually clean the DPF. Can you manually turn it on while driving? How? What RPM do you need to maintain? How long will it take? At what exhaust filter % should it be done?
The factory default on my 2019 F350 was not set to automatically regen as needed. I went over 120K without a regen and it killed my fuel mileage and performance. My dealer reset the computer to regen as needed. Fuel mileage and performance are way up.
Strange. That's hard to believe that the truck would even run with a fully plugged DPF. Glad they figured it out.
I have a 2017 F350 KING RANCH and had the dealer turn on my OCR. When you have the dealer doing it with IDS not forscan you do not have the option of un-checking the auto regen. The checkmark is on in the box and if you try to uncheck it it won't allow you to do it. I see that if it's done with forscan it does allow you to uncheck the auto regen. which gives you better control of when you want to activate a re-gen . I beleive ford does it this way so that you don't forget it off and that could lead to problems if you are not watching your dpf percentage gauge. Myself I would prefer the control of un-checking the auto regen. which I don't have now from the dealer.
That's interesting. Didn't know about the IDS enabled limitation. It's pretty hard to forget the box is unchecked because the truck makes you acknowledge a warning every time the engine is started. The truck will also present another message when the DPF is full.
Good to know and I had wondered if this was possible, but for my money I’ll stick to driving to regen. Thanks for the info.
Do it outside unless you plan on rebuilding
What is the year and model you are working on. My 2011 F-350 PowerStroke dash doesn't look anything like the one you're showing.
I use 2 methods to monitor dpf %. My father once told me I have mechanical sympathy. What does that mean as it relates to regen cycles? It means my truck always gets it full uninterrupted regen cycle completed...which can be challenging when in traffic etc. Yes, I'm the guy who drives past my driveway after a long work day and drives an extra 15-20 mile loop (I have two I use depending on how far along the regen cycle is), to make sure the cycle gets completed properly (I really need to delete this truck). I must be crazy
Mechanical sympathy, I love that. You might be in the minority but there are many who drive that same loop. I found it interesting how much more cleaning is done with the manual process. More carbon is removed and confirmed by the dpf back pressure sensor.
@@EpicCowlick I think I will try that, have not to date. Thanks
You have to learn to keep the RPMs of the engine between 2200 and 2700 while driving as much as possible. 2500 is ideal. Have the same truck and no issues on re-gen.
Thanks for posting. I just received a DPF warning on my 2017 F350. What tool or app did you use, shown at 3:38 (Forscan)?
Supposedly, I must ask the dealer to set the manual regen. I there a way or tool enabling me to do this? (such as the 'Forscan tool)?
I ask because the dealer wants to charge me $1200 to replace the DPF sensor despite only 33k miles, conservative driving, little towing & trailer only weighs 3000 lb
Also, is this tool or app able to clear the code which warned about the DPF?
Hey Buddy, Im in the camp I keep driving past my house to complete my regens. I have forscan and have everything enabled. Never tried a manual regen, how much fuel would you think it burned in that manual regen? Usually regen on highway on my way home, I keep it off after 90% and turn it on when Im on my way home. Just curious if it uses less fuel in the manual mode, I have always thought at least Im actually driving while it does the regen so Im getting the most out of the fuel usage. Thanks buddy love your videos.
Really hard to say how much fuel gets used. I've wondered the same and figure it's somewhere just over a gallon. It's clear that the manual regen last longer than the highway regen so there's some benefit there. With as much fuel as these trucks go through, it's really just an afterthought anyway.
@@EpicCowlick very true and with my 35s mpg in the shitter anyway lol. Thanks again!
Book states to have truck in open area away from grass when doing manual regen. had installed on company trucks for oil field 2011-2013.
You also have to acknowledge a prompt on the dash to confirm the exhaust area is clear. It's just so easy to skip past all the warnings nowadays. Most are useless but this one means business.
I have a 2012 F250. I don’t seem to get the “Finished” prompt. I only get the “Exhaust Cleaning” when it starts. Yes, I make sure the cycle finishes. I have the DPF screen and it starts when it reaches 100% full and drops all they way down to 0% full
What year is your truck? You didn’t show how to set it up? I own a2019 w/11,000 miles and it’s hasn’t asked for a regen yet. Don’t know how to start it. Any advice?
This feature has to be enabled by the dealer or through the use of computer module programming software like Forscan. Lot's of info out there on how to do it.
Will the Forscan devise work on a 2019 f550 6.7 diesel. Need a device to do a manual regen
It does. Plenty of tutorials on RUclips.
I am looking for a truck right now. Looking at Ford F-250 6.7, F-150 5.0 or 3.5. Don't really need f-250 but I just like them with diesel. I am now concerned about any diesel. F-150 would be just fine for my casual towing. Would you recommend going for gas instead? Which one in your opinion?
It's a decision you'll have to make based on your circumstances. Gas vehicles are cheap and easy to maintain, diesel are powerful but require more maintenance. More power means more work can be done more easily. Enjoy the search. That's half the fun.
Got a 2016 6.7L I work with. Truck has been in the garage for weeks now and can't use it. Any advice? I noticed your cluster is digital, mine is analog
Ive never manually regened my 6.7 in 12 YEARS. 200,000 miles.
This can only be done with 2017 and above? My super duty is a 2011, and I don’t think this is possible right?
I believe you are right. 90% sure...
Look into FORScan
I notice an air compressor behind the retractable step. Didn’t you mount it above the spare tire for your airbags?
The compressors under the passenger side of the truck are for the onboard air. That little compressor did fail due to water intrusion. The sealed Viair compressors don't care. On another video I use the onboard air now to fill the airbags with the wireless controller. Turned out awesome.
Do you keep the auto regen box unchecked and just do the regen when prompted. Also if you keep the box unchecked, do you have a warning symbol always on?
I keep the box checked until the DPF is about 90% full. Sometimes I miss the auto-regen and it cleans about 50% due to shorter drives. The on-screen warning comes on every time the truck starts and the box is unchecked.
@@EpicCowlick Thanks for the reply, I have successfully had 2 manuel regens now. I have also made other changes to the truck with forscan. Double horn honk disable, bambi mode, radio on after power is off, digital temp guages and GT performance head unit graphics.
I am in the process of setting up the PID's for the forscan light app. There are a lot to choose from, you wouldn't happen to be able to post the ones you have and what all the different EGT #'s relate to on the truck. Thanks in advance and to everyone involved with making these MOD's possible.
@@clintpreston81 Different PIDs are interesting to different people. I watch Filter Regen Status, all four EGTs, Oil dilution and oil time remaining, Generator outputs and batt voltage, and other things now and again. It's fun to experiment and see what floats your boat.
Fantastic info!! Always love your videos. I appreciate that you explain that the box has to be “unchecked” to enable OCR. I did a manual regen today this way and was super stoked I got to choose the start time.
Glad it was helpful! I like doing it manually because the clean is better. Just have to point the exhaust in a safe direction.
Should do that outside, I think. Better idea is remove that stupid thing and put in a "test pipe" and tune the DPF out.
If only... :(
Very curious. My 17 550. As far as I know does not have this option.
I've tried everything to operator regeneration on my 2016 F250 I can't get it to do anything I'm about ready to park the truck next to my corvette in the garage and take it out in the spring
When a message comes on the display saying exhaust cleaning, Am I supposed to push the "OK" light? I really don't get a chance to before it goes off.
No it’s just letting you know that is cleaning, but that’s happens when u are driving. He was showing how to do it on command!
0:21 I swear his finger looked like something else
That's exactly what I thought!!! Especially on the thumbnail for this video!!!
Dudes!
I do all highway driving. I’ve never had a regen process come up on my truck at 62K. I think the temps stay hot enough to keep the filter low
It's interesting that you (and probably many others) don't even notice the process. That is after all probably what Ford hoped for when they designed it. It really is meant to take care of itself without manual intervention. Rest assured however that regens have been happening all along on your truck. The maximum interval is 500 miles even if the exhaust back-pressure readings don't warrant a regen. The truck's computer will command a regen to start and it will run until it's either interrupted or finishes. If there wasn't much to burn off, it won't run very long. I've seen the same thing when on long hauls with a trailer. Exhaust temps stay high enough to perform "passive" regeneration so soot never really has an opportunity to accumulate. It basically burns off the instant it collects on the DPF. But this is only really practical if driving highway speeds with a load. The truck never really reaches required temps for passive regen when running unhooked. At the end of the day, the fastest way to accumulate soot in the filter is through extended idling (think remote start) or frequent in-town trips.
@@EpicCowlick I should've been more clear, I've never been notified of a full filter or dpf being full. I do 70% highway driving under load. I think that's why I've never seen it come up on the info screen. I drive a cummins by the way, but I think the environmental systems all work the same. Not sure though.
@@AString95 Yeah, not sure how Cummins presents the info but it's a safe bet they all have basically the same tech. The EPA is the common denominator after all. Burn more fuel to save the planet makes a lot of sense (sarcasm).
Thank you for the information.
As far as thought Ford offers an option for its Super Duties called “Operator Command Regeneration.” If the vehicle does not have this option is it still possible do a manual regent besides having to doing a static IDS regeneration, which will most likely be done by mechanic as those Ford IDS scan tools are not cheap and require an annual subscription fee.
The code for OCR is indeed in every diesel truck. It just isn't enabled for most. I won't go into how it can be done here but software tools like FORScan can enable this feature. You can sure understand why Ford did not enable it for the masses. Too many folks will start their houses on fire, lol.
YOU THE MAN !!! :-)
@@EpicCowlick Hi, Could you take me through the steps to buy, install and utilize FORScan? I have a 2016 F250 Diesel. I use an iPhone 13 and MacBook Air. I raise the question as I'm a tech nincompoop.
My 2017 F350 doesn't have the auto regen option. What year is yours?
Your truck is in auto-regen mode by default. You must enable the option to de-select auto-regen with software such as FORScan or Ford IDS at a willing dealer. This is a 2017 F350.
I've been thinking about replacing my 2007.5 ram 2500 with a new truck. I've had my truck deleted for a long time and have most of the trouble areas addressed. I just hate to start all over again and now with higher prices to delete. I was looking at a 2019 Chevy. It is crazy what it takes to "fix" this truck. If the rear seating area of my quad cab wasn't so small I would keep my truck until it turned into dust. It's very difficult now with having two child seats in the back. I may actually look for an 80-97 Ford crewcab and build a truck with the parts I want it to have. No emissions and I can work on it myself. I already have a couple of common rail Cummins long blocks and a 5 speed allison 1000. That make this option a lot more attractive. Plus no truck payment and it would stand out in the sea of new trucks driving down the road.
I have a buddy who just bought a 2004 Ford F350 with a Cummins. He says it's the best combination of the best parts. Ford for the room and chassis/suspension, Cummins for the drivetrain. He has to register it in a different county every year due to emissions non-compliance.
@@EpicCowlick did emissions start on Ford in 2003 with the 6.0? I think my old 1997 7.3 only had a muffler and a resonator or catalytic converter. There is no emissions testing where I live but there always could be one day. It would be better to be ahead of the game.
@@jamessheets9205 My knowledge on the sequence of emissions introductions is sketchy but it started with EGR on the International Harvester 6.0 (I think it was 2003?). That was the beginning of diesel emissions control and that was about controlling NOx emissions, not capturing particulates. The 6.0 and 6.4 were entirely dependent upon EGR to control NOx. The 6.7L introduced came with a DPF in 2011 and uses DEF which decreased the dependence on EGR. So bottom line is if a 6.0 or 6.4 has had the EGR deleted, it will not pass an emissions test. If a 6.7 has anything missing, it too will fail.
did you initiate the OCR with the instrument cluster or with an OBD II connected device?
It's a feature in the instrument cluster but must be enabled via software like FORScan.
Why you running it inside. Book clearly states out side
Good advice for people to read the book before trying.
Is there ANY way to turn on OCR on a 2013 6.7L??? Or any way to clean the DPF besides waiting for it to do the cleaning cycle itself as I pull into my driveway?
I haven't heard about being able to do it on a 2011-2016. 2017 is the first year it was available via the Forscan software.
Where did you find the option in the menu to unclick "Auto Regen"?
This is a hidden feature in all Ford Super Duties but can only be accessed through programming. You either have to find a willing dealer to get it to show up or have someone who knows how to change the truck module settings.
My 2012 doesn't seem to have that setting?
It only comes with this setting from the factory if the truck was delivered as a cab and chassis or F450 (I think). You have to enable it via software tools like FORScan. A willing dealer can also do it for you.
This makes me happy that my truck has a test pipe and EGR test kit. This kills the engines and also turbo. But great video.
Test kit... lol. Plenty of folks remove the SCR/DPF/EGR stuff and love it. All these emissions systems are great for the air but bad for the engine. Sadly, I live in an area where emissions are tested annually.
EpicCowlick it’s amazing you get insane power just how a diesel should be like. But yea that’s one draw back about living in places like that but as long as you baby it and maintain her clean it’ll last you a good 150k miles or more who knows. You should get a S&B cold air intake it’ll help the turbo breath better during those hard regens it’s gets put through.
ZEUS6.7 maybe for some, I’ve had a 6.7 since it’s introduction so has my brother, never removed the emissions and never had an issue. My last 6.7 had 337k on it and never an engine or exhaust issue, my brother has a 2014 with 415k, no mechanical issues, all we’ve done is maintenance, I now have a 2018 with 78k miles no issues and I will order a 2020 6.7 in October, just cause I want the new design with a 10speed, you are gonna wish you never taken yours off if you ever get spot checked by DOT. We have zero emissions testing in Tennessee and I still won’t mess with it, why, as of March 2019 DOT spots checks are enforcing a 1st fine of removing emissions on private diesels of $5000 and 30 days to put back on the vehicle, 2nd time caught, $10k and a misdemeanor, 3rd time, $20k and a felony with a driving license revocation of 5 years, why would anyone chance it?
Ford F-250 6.7 Super I don’t live where they really give a dayum about it that much and I don’t be dumb rolling coal or nun of that non sense I keep my truck running as clean as possible while deleted so i know I’m risking it but if I get caught oh well that’s my fine but I’ve been driving my truck deleted for a while so I don’t mind the “threats” dot be making
Yeah, I'll keep my pre emissions powerstroke. thanks.
Lol and ill just keep my 2019 deleted.
@@pipeline_hank5277 That's the better option. Some people get butt hurt when you bring up deleting. Still, these trucks are overpriced, IMO. I'll drive mine til the wheels fall off.
I just bought a 2021 ford f250 king ranch super duty I drove it about 1500 miles in two months it has 80 thousand miles on it , I was driving to the store and it lost power and died It wouldn’t go into gear after that without dying on me I had it towed back to ford and they told me it’s not covered what’s wrong with it . Unbelievable it cost me 70 thousand dollars had for two mths and barely drove it .
EpicCowlick do you know where I can get the latest spreadsheet with the codes/changes to add these features?
Here you go: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qf2gYgkhmsX-dnFO3Ki0nYUvr7aeLKsHsA0WxhDns1s/edit#gid=0
EpicCowlick right on thanks bud
If you have a Jake brake, drive with it on. It’ll help extend the time between DPF cleanings
How do you know when to do the regen? Do you leave it on auto settings from the factory and then put it in manual to do the regen after so many miles or what? Thanks
The truck will prompt you when the filter is full. You can either run a manual regen or turn the automatic back on and the truck will take care of it.
Thanks
I bought the OBDLINKMX+ and downloaded the FORScan lite app on my I phone and can not see how you added the option to add a manual regen on the dash cluster on my 2019 f450. Can you do a video on the set up step by step on how you add this feature? I bought this stuff just to do what you’ve done, to be able to manually regen. Thanks
I thought manual regen was only possible on cab and chassis trucks?
It can be enabled on any truck. The dealer can with their IDS system or anyone can do it with FORscan.
Which app were you using on your phone?
FORScan Lite for Android
What kind of Bluetooth reader are you using with forscan lite?
OBDLink MX
@@EpicCowlick Did you buy the obd Mx+ for 99.95$ on the web site? I want to make sure I’m getting the right one thanks ,Dave
Any help on how to unlock autoregen uncheck/check box mine is locked "checked. I paid a local dealer to turn on OCR but all I got was the filter % menu. I cant uncheck my autoregen like seen at the beginning of the video and the truck as never given me the option to perform manual regen when parked or driving? 2017 F-350 keep up the great videos. Your On board air video was a huge! help!
Something is screwy if you can see the auto regen check box but you can't uncheck it. The process is to uncheck the auto regen and then wait until the DPF is full. Only then will you get the option to Hold OK to Clean on the DPF % screen. Sounds like a return trip to the dealer is in order. Have them show you how to uncheck the auto regen box.
@@EpicCowlick Do you know where it maybe in the FS spreadsheet or will it be the dealer only setup?
@@braddurborow1486 Take a look at rows 61 and 62 on the spreadsheet. I just looked at it and you may be missing the PCM change which enables manual regen. Note that row 62 requires updates to the IPC and PCM in plain english. Update the modules directly, not the "as built" modules.
@@EpicCowlick will do thanks for your help i will update you tomorrow.
@@EpicCowlick Your were spot on my PCM "manual regen was disabled" thank you again!
I thought about enabling manual regen on my truck, but one question I never got answered on the forums, will the Auto regen still work also.
It looks like it. All you have to do is leave the Auto-Regen options checked and everything runs as normal. The manual regen is only an option when you deselect the option in the truck's system menu.
@@EpicCowlick thanks
I have been trying to manually clean the filter but have had no luck. Any advice?
Manual regen is not enabled from the factory and must be turned on by a dealer or by Forscan. When done, you turn off auto regen on the truck menu and wait until the dpf is full. The truck will prompt you to clean the DPF when it's full.
EpicCowlick what all do I need to buy to start doing Forscan upgrades? My dealer told me they can’t do it .
@@abbaschechi6723 Here's a link to a spreadsheet that lists features that can be changed on the truck. This list is for model years 2017 and up. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qf2gYgkhmsX-dnFO3Ki0nYUvr7aeLKsHsA0WxhDns1s/edit#gid=0
EpicCowlick I think I saw your phone giving you readings of your truck could you explain please thank you
FORScan Lite (Android or Apple) is used to read the various modules (computers) in the truck. You can choose from hundreds of data points and display them on your phone. FORScan for Windows is used to change default settings (program the truck). You need an OBDII reader for any of the above. This for Windows and Android: amzn.to/2kWQguk
This for Windows, Android and Apple: amzn.to/3jCPjRg
Thank you sir for your reply great work on the video
I don’t see a DPF selection on my 2017 F250. The manual says it happens automatically. I don’t recall a Regen message but I do recall some very hot exhaust a few times.
That's the way it comes from Ford. Manual cleaning needs to be enabled by a dealer or with software like FORScan.
@@EpicCowlick Thanks! Will The FORscan Lite app provide that option?
@@ophirpass FORScan Lite is for monitoring PIDs only. You need FORScan for Windows to update modules. Make sure you get educated on that stuff before you do it. It's easy to screw up.
Did you activate the code or did you have to take it to a dealer?
I added the option through FORScan.
It literally tells you on the software to have x number of feet clear around your exhaust. What's so confusing that everyone couldn't do this?
The regen was run from the truck's dash and yes, there is a prompt that asks something to the effect of, "Is the exhaust area clear?" I understand that if the regen is run from IDS or some other software it is a little more explicit. Whether people actually follow the prompt is up to them. I personally would prefer a message something like, "PAY ATTENTION. I REALLY MEAN IT. THIS WILL BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN." But that's sort of the point of this video... ;)
How many gallons of diesel did it burn?
Great question. It is impossible to be precise but one could probably calculate it some way. Maybe just subtract MTE at the end of the clean from MTE prior? If it's down 15 then perhaps that was one gallon? Or monitor the fuel flow amount by time of regen (2 GPH * .5H = 1 Gallon)? It would be interesting to know. My guess is .5 to 1.5 gallons.
You know all that hear is good for the turbo and everything
True that.
Did you just initiate the manual regen on the FORScan lite app?
FORScan for Windows is needed to enable the menu prompts on the dash.
EpicCowlick gotcha. I have the dpf door level enabled via the windows FORScan. I also purchased the iOS lite version and I saw an option to do a manual regen with the phone app.
@@joshshuza Sweet. I need to look at the service options that are available on Lite. It's been a while and maybe they've added a operator commanded regen option. Thanks.
How long does it take to Regen at that rpm?
Did one yesterday. 25 minutes.
Just wondering why when you burnt your finger on the exhaust and go on to explain the the system is at 700 degrees that you would put the truck inside the garage to run a regen. Also why you would not have backed the truck out when the wall temp was at over 200 degrees.
There's some theater there for sure. All options were available including sticking the back end of the truck outside. But what would we learn then? The world is so full of disclaimers and warnings that many people ignore them reflexively. This was meant to show a warning that should not be dismissed.
I press and hold 'ok' to clean, then i press and hold 'ok' to confirm position safety. Right away it responds "exhaust filter cleaning stopped" and won't clean
Any action such as brake or gas pedal will cause it to stop. It can also be aborted by the driver pressing menu buttons. Maybe an extra button press?
@@EpicCowlick nothing was pressed. I held ok then ok. It says starting then quickly stops and says it has been stopped
@@bch1035 Sounds like a trip to the dealer is in order.
@@bch1035 When the cleaning starts, don't press OK again. Leave the message on the screen that says cleaning is underway.
@@EpicCowlick i dont press anything. It never starts. Says its starting but then cancels right away. If you give me a way to send you a video, you'll be able to understand better.
My 2018 RAM will never have DPF issues. Can't have issues with whats been removed, lol.
I’ve been told manual regen like 4-5 times before I ruin the dpf is that true?
Just the opposite. Do some googling and everything you read is about keeping the DPFs healthy is to keep it clean of soot build up. As a matter of fact, manual regens are the first step in saving a DPF that has not been properly cleaned. The manual regen does the exact same things as a regen while driving with the exception that it runs a little longer and cleans more completely. 1,100 degrees is 1,100 degrees whether the vehicle is moving or not. Beware of anonymous forums and go to manufacturer websites and documents. The engineers who build those things know what's best. For what it's worth, I've manually regen'd at least 20 times and the DPF is as healthy as new.
EpicCowlick ok see that’s how I viewed the process so I’m glad I was right because I bought the ‘13 used the other day and hooked up my CTS, from my old amazing LLY, and saw the DPF load high then it told me to drive and clean. I did such and it started to climb back up again quite fast. Found manual regen, googled it and used it. DPF has been happy since. Thanks for clarifying my thoughts. So far I love this 6.7L now to figure out basic filter changes and a CCV plan as I’m seeing my CCV doesn’t have the filter. Any list of maintenance for 122k?
@@Rider-nb5ts Sounds like you're doing the right things. Front end suspension parts wear out and can cause wobble. Check track bar and ball joints for movement and replace if necessary. New shocks can make the truck drive really nice. I never bothered with the CCV and left it stock but I don't keep my trucks for 122K miles either.
EpicCowlick thanks for the help last month has been good. Still on the fence about deleting it as I have no emissions, but the more I rear my the more I think I can just rebuild the EGR with better parts, like bulletproof, if at all ever needed
How did you get that option on your truck and thanks for the video
It's a standard feature on a cab and chassis. You have to enable the feature with software like FORScan or a willing dealer can do it.
EpicCowlick thanks for the info
I have a 2013 F350 Cab-Chassis XL and cannot find on my display how to start the regen process. Any suggestions? Thanks
How long did it take to complete?
Forgot to time it. 20-25 mins. Next time I run it I"ll time it and update the video description.
Can I do this on my ‘18 .?
It has to be enabled via software like FORScan. Google it and you'll find it.
What year model is the truck
2017 F350
@@EpicCowlick mine is 2018 Lariat and it doesn't have the manual regen mode like that on it.
@@DannyParkerDirty Yeah, it is not enabled from the factory on our models. It has to be enabled by the dealer or through a software tool like FORScan.
@@EpicCowlick so I can get the dealer to put the regin app on the dash.. basically is what your saying. Am i right
@@DannyParkerDirty A willing dealer can do it. They are sometimes hard to come by.
What app and code scanner are you using for this?
Info is in the video description
Thank you I'm New to the diesel just bought my first one. 2017 Ford F 350 with the 6.7.
@@glennlee7853 You'll love it. It's an amazing piece of engineering.
I'm getting a p2002 code the ford dealership has ran the manual cleaning put the light out. Drive it about 30 miles and the light is back on with the same code. Any additional advice on this would be appreciated. Thanks
@@glennlee7853 Error Code P2002 is defined as Diesel Particulate Filter Efficiency Below Threshold Bank 1, which refers to an issue in the efficiency of the particulate filter in the exhaust, which is most likely caused by faulty filter or sensor, or exhaust leak.
Did you use forscan to turn on the manual regen? My local dealers look at me like a dear in the headlights when I ask them if they know how to turn on the manual regen feature.
FORScan can enable it. There's one registry value that needs to be changed which creates the menu item on the truck's system menu.
EpicCowlick Is the manual regen available on the newer 6.7s? Still driving my 2011!!
@@Marauder92V It doesn't come this way from the factory and must be enabled via IDS or software like FORScan.
EpicCowlick do you know which registry value it is or will it vary by truck?
EpicCowlick i have a 2017 F-250 PS and forscan. How do I turn it on?
Must only be an option on new models....my 2013 does not this option.
Lines 61 and 62 on the spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qf2gYgkhmsX-dnFO3Ki0nYUvr7aeLKsHsA0WxhDns1s/edit?usp=sharing
Wish I could do that with mine.
Just curious how are you seeing that info on your phone.
Jim
It's an app called FORScan. It connects through a bluetooth device connected to the OBDII port on the truck.
EpicCowlick I bought the cable version to hook to the laptop. I haven’t attempted it yet.
@@EpicCowlick could you add a link to the device you purchased thank you
@@WILLY_WOODS Check the reply to your earlier comment. Links for everything.
I saw the tiles and I was like... wait is he in the garage doing that? I dont blame you for advising people to head outside, too much hot exhaust and I would be scared of something going up in flames if it were me.. out on the driveway is good and ow your finger Mr T ...ouch hope that heals well for ya sir. Strange they dont let you have the option to do a manual regen, I believe that you could on the 11 to 16 models
It was a controlled experiment really but no way I expected THAT much heat out the back of the truck. Garage flooring and wall survived but next time it will be fully outdoors. I think the manual regen is an option of cab and chassis models or maybe F450s?
@@EpicCowlick I have a 2015 and have don't have a menu option for regen at least that I have seen. Not has the truck told me I need to do one. I do see a message from time to time that says cleaning exhaust filter while driving. Stays on for about 4 seconds and then goes away. I was always curious why I don't have to regen.
@@jaybaar1 Your truck (and all trucks) are set to auto-regen from the factory. The menu option to disable auto-regen is not enabled by Ford. It must be enabled by Ford's service system called IDS (dealerships only) or by FORScan.
@@EpicCowlick Thank you for the reply sir, that is extremely helpful! Looks like I'm going to have to get forscan as your results proved to be very effective. Much better than factory.
EpicCowlick wrong sir, please do not comment further on this subject until you fully researched this subject, I’m a ford tech, read my earlier comment and please watch the videos that I posted links to, this feature is programmed into every superduty ECM from 2017 and up, just needs enabled
Yeah well the E frickin PA can kiss my you know and go to you know where. I get more horses and more MPG because an engine was not designed to re- burn its own exhaust. That’s my thought.
2016 Ford 250 exhaust complete limp mode
Why would you do that in your house
Knowledge is power. Obliviousness leads to ones house being burned down. Fortune smiles on the lucky!
Ram changed my Dpf under warranty
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I have a Banks Power iDash gauge that I have programmed to show DPF percentages. I have watched it go from 140ish% down to 5%. Then back up, and then back down. The usual thing. THEN, I get the Ford recall notice (21E01) and like a fool, let them do it. Within 20 miles of this "recall update" my truck (a 2016 F-350) basically broke down and had to go back to Ford. There it sits for six weeks so far. Ford says I need a new DPF. l should have NEVER done the update. Truck was running flawlessly until the 'update'. So, word to the wise. Don't do it.
Oh, and my Banks iDash can do a manual regen. Works great (even though the Ford service writer says a Ford regen done with their fancy schmancy special Ford computer somehow does a better job).
Sounds suspicious alright. This method cleans better than the automatic on the road setting.
Outside is probably a better place to do it
For sure. Back end of the truck is always outside the garage now.
Next time do it outside never inside.
The best way to keep your DPF filter from getting plugged is to put it safely in the barn. Straight pipes never need service. Just sayin'
If only. $5,000 to the EPA for the first offense, $10,000 for the second and $20,000 plus felony for the third. Some municipalities are spot checking . Yikes!
@@EpicCowlick I have never heard about anyone getting a fine. Who exactly would hand one out? The local cops don't. Besides, who owns my truck anyway? Certainly not the E friken PA.
@@twoeyedjack879 The only fine I know of is the Diesel Brothers who lost a $100,000 lawsuit brought by a group of physicians in Utah. The federal Clean Air Act allows for regular citizens to sue violators and the E friken PA follows such actions with their own procedures. I haven't heard of any others, just internet rumors. It didn't help the Diesel Bros that they were in the business of modifying trucks and then openly rolling coal on their TV show intro. One could say they were asking for it but in today's radical environmentalist world, it's only going to get worse for deleters.
This only makes me want to delete mine even more. Sadly it only has 7,000 miles on it and the wife worries about warranty.
It's a valid concern. Lots of people wait until warranty is out and then delete.
Jose Gutierrez but the smog warranty is only til 50k they just don’t show that on their little stickers.
1Slamalama1 so they’re more than most? Because I know for sure gm only has theirs til 50k
FOOLISH MAN - NEVER REGEN INSIDE
So, manual regen, not cleaning? So mislabeled video.
WTF.?.? Do it outside in open area clear of foot traffic and objects that can ignite. Common sense.
Or... start testing items that CAN ignite. Sounds like endless fun.
Just delete it!
I wish. It's a lot harder to delete when you live in an emissions testing county.
U should be outside!!!!
Amen to that! Truck's rear end is always out the garage door when cleaning from that day forward. It was pretty cool though to see what can happen.
This can't be good for the truck
It gives one a better appreciation for all that thermal insulation everywhere. Ford did a great job matching the materials to the task. Everything is designed to handle pretty extreme temps. The exhaust system absolutely loves this process. It burns out everything.
How did you get your display to give you numbers above the gauges?
FORScan. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qf2gYgkhmsX-dnFO3Ki0nYUvr7aeLKsHsA0WxhDns1s/edit#gid=0