i could listen to Wes talk all day. Johnny's podcast can be a little chaotic with the talking points going by and some being missed (which happens in conversations) but the way Wes makes sure we're not missing a single point is ✨chef's kiss ✨
B/c Wes is smart af....that's why most of the ppl on The Challenge can't stand him. They know he's smarter than them lol and the ppl that are on his intelligence level get along with him perfectly fine.
FINALLY. thank you Wes. literally exactly what I was trying to say about Laurel, word for word. lets see some growth. bitter old betty isn’t cute. and you really can’t compare CT to Laurel at all. lol. CTs a grown man, and has shown more growth than almost anyone on this show. not to mention is like almost a decade older than her and has been straight chillin’ for the past like four seasons. where is Laurel‘s chill Johnny? we’re waiting, pal. *CT pro tip* no matter how many times you say it. It’s not gonna make people agree with you, Johnny haha
Why coz laurel mean to cara? Unlike wes that poured soda all over her n was insulting her n laughing at her with a big group of ppl? Wes was a grown man then
@@jadebel7006 Laurel is not mean, she is screaming at the top of her lungs insane, aiming at the your weakest points in order to destroy you with words. And this didnt happen now once, it happened many times. So thats her pattern. That is not normal behavior. At least to me. If thats how you choose to interact with people and thats normal to you, thats your choice. What Wes did was childish and gross, absolutely. When he was in his mid-20s. I would hope he would not do that to anyone now when he is 40. Laurel is almost 40 now, acting the same way she did 15 years ago.
Never clicked faster. Literally the GOATs of competition reality, and reality tv in general. I dont think its even possible for them to get the flowers they deserve
Both of these men have verbally ab×sed n b×lied yung, sometimes vulnerable yung ladies.. yet yall hate on laurel n support them? N no they haven't grown, Johnny is still friends with n singing the praises of homophobe Leroy, n still friendly with gr×pist Kenny.. n wes forcefully had dee committed to an asylum against her will, when she was upset about the cruel backlash from mtv. U may not have liked her joke, yes it was very insensitive, but she's from a culture where those type of jokes are acceptable, in the UK n aus we make risque jokes. It's OUR culture but she wasn't actually r%c!St n no one deserves to be treated like that. He is a eV!l sn÷ke .. they all are.. n love how yall forget so easy what Tina n Rachel did to poor Tonya
@@jadebel7006 he is just always playing against the numbers. But let's not act like he isn't one of the best of all time in dailies and eliminations. 😂
Wes is my favorite challenger of all time. From being an entertainer to being a great competitor and strategist, he is the definition of a true challenger. 💯
CT is the best pound for pound Challenge Champion. He isn't afraid of eliminations, he is smart and can do puzzles and is good at the social game as well. 5 wins and and a comp beast. Yes Johnny has 7 wins but CT is the more well rounded athlete imo.
@@jadebel7006 Because he wasn't licking the boots and kissing the butts of the fraternity click that was Johnny, Evan, and Kenny and all their minions. He was always counter that group that outnumbered him and his outcasts. Then he went away for a while and came in 3rd on War of the Worlds which was very impressive and then won All Stars.
Johnny doesn't listen he just twists words to make people go on his side and Wes always clocks him. This Laurel obsession that Johnny has is gross. Stop enabling her bad behavior as a grown adult and comparing it behavior of 20somethings. She needs therapy. She needs to stop bullying everyone bc it's not just Cara.
Who would have thought they'd be the greatest duo to come out of the challenge? Not me! Their rivalry on TV has been the most entertainment to watch! I'm so glad they've become friends after so many years ❤
If Laurel was as "innocent" as you claim you wouldn't have to defend her so much. The fact that you said nobody agrees with you should have you rethinking what's going on with Cara and Laurel
So obvious that Johnny is super hung up on this Laurel thing and seems to desperately want someone to agree with him and just no one is. Wes was spot on in his assessment.
When Bananas can't win his Laurel argument, and just tries to change the subject, bcuz, Wes is schooling him 😂😂 I love Bananas, but Wes is 100% right about Laurel.
Wes being the Cayote trying to create elaborate schemes to catch the Road Runner is such a great analogy. He only has 3 wins in his what, 20 year stint at the show? But he is still relevant and still one of the faces of the show.
Definitely agree with Wes, LAUREL HAS HAD ZERO GROWTH. She's good at challenges, she's not good at THE CHALLENGE from a show perspective. Cara Maria has both personality and charisma, is entertaining and a beast in challenges.
I agree with Wes on everything. Laurel hasn't changed, she's only good coz of her size. She's not entertaining and you should stop bringing her up in every podcast coz you'll start alienating your fans. Every week you repeat the same thing, CT changed and Laurel has not you need to move on. You're looking stupid arguing with common sense now.
I wont comment on anything, except for that you seem to not know how size works. Laurel isnt good because of her size. Shes good because shes good. Size can weigh you down, slow you down, make reactions slower, make cardio more difficult... unless its a competition where you get to put your body on top of the other person, or lift the most weight, size can actually be a detriment. Especially in a show where a lot of it is agility and endurance based
I think Laurel is a terrible person but to say she’s only good because of her size is absurd. She’s a good competitor. Big Easy was big and he sucked. Zack is big and broke completely in a final.
@@BuddhakingpenLaurels elimination record is legit against people significantly smaller than her in hands in physical eliminations. The few she has had that aren’t that she has lost. That’s why she cowarded out in all stars when she saw the elimination was something Cara probably would win against her.
again. minute 46 that's why ct is such a specimen. he looks like the big hall brawl guy they talk about but he still wins finals, incredible stamina , eats anything, very very smart. he is one of a kind!
Either Bananas missed the point or he's skating passed Wes' point. He actually proved his point when he brought up the soda situation, Laurel would still do that today if she's defending herself or someone else, at almost 40 its time to mature and evolve, like Wes said
Johnny will never admit that he’s just plain wrong about Laurel. How is that comparable to CT when exactly what Wes’s argument was that everyone’s grown except her. Clearly, CT has grown! He proved Wes right lol Laurel brings no entertainment when most of us fast forward through her segments.
I really love how you guys are Bros now all these years later it's so nice to see and I'm really excited to see Wes on House of villains and I hope he can come back to the challenge one day.... You never know haha
And then he wonders why he's getting Shaded by production...it's because ur boring you ROTTEN FRUIT ur story line NEVER changes ur a used up FRAT BOYCOTTING no dis to frat guys but Rotten Fruit is just sad...no growth ever and always promoting himself every chance he gets it's just yawn....at least Wes tries to be different and I dislike Wes also but I'll take him over Narcissistic Rotten Fruit ANY day
These two are gold! Their banter is hysterical and on point. Wes is completely right when they were discussing Laurel. No growth.. He uses himself and Johnny which is awesome- showing how they grew and tweaked their behavior.
Ct grew but Laurel hasn't. She loves the idea of being better than everyone and will lord it over anyone. Glad Wes hmmed at Bananas for the Laurel/Ninja thing cus the gals both lost on a technicality until it was pointed out and Laurel didn't believe it existed.
Wes and Laurel’s beef is still alive and well 😂 I remember their Twitter exchange when she said Kansas City is not expensive to live in. I hope one day they can make up
46:58 I hate how Bananas asks a question then he immediately answers the question. If you’re speaking to someone without a mind of their own they will take your view point. Thank God West has a mind of his own.
Totally agree with Wes...These Newbies so wannabe the new OGs but won't do a third of what it takes...and then complain...and No opening an OF isn't going to work.
Oh my Gosh I had such a wonderful time with you guys just now!! One day, and calm down for both of you. Maybe we will see a podcast where you guys do exactly what you just did right now for whatever shows you want to and I will watch those shows just to see the podcast afterwards you guys are wonderful together.
i could listen to Wes talk all day. Johnny's podcast can be a little chaotic with the talking points going by and some being missed (which happens in conversations) but the way Wes makes sure we're not missing a single point is ✨chef's kiss ✨
B/c Wes is smart af....that's why most of the ppl on The Challenge can't stand him. They know he's smarter than them lol and the ppl that are on his intelligence level get along with him perfectly fine.
@@elisest.george8245 I agree, Wes is smarter than all of them, most strategies we have in the show are there because of him.
Wes calling out Johnny for being a narcissist was perfection - he doesn't let him off the hook
you think he doesnt now that? he leans into it.
they both call each other out for that lol they're very alike but play the game differently
Wes is the best guest that Bananas brings on because he’s so good at actually analyzing the episodes
Love hearing Wes’ unbiased opinions of people & happenings on the show.
Shoutout to Wes for keeping it real about Laurel
Exactly. She is annoying.
FINALLY. thank you Wes. literally exactly what I was trying to say about Laurel, word for word. lets see some growth. bitter old betty isn’t cute. and you really can’t compare CT to Laurel at all. lol. CTs a grown man, and has shown more growth than almost anyone on this show. not to mention is like almost a decade older than her and has been straight chillin’ for the past like four seasons. where is Laurel‘s chill Johnny? we’re waiting, pal. *CT pro tip* no matter how many times you say it. It’s not gonna make people agree with you, Johnny haha
Laurel finna make y’all take a look crazy if y’all don’t stop 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@AliFrankTheTank bro. your illiterate af 😹 chill
Exactly, Bananas comparing Laurel to CT was actually proving Wes point, because CT grew from his crazy days, while Lauren has been a bully forever!
Why coz laurel mean to cara? Unlike wes that poured soda all over her n was insulting her n laughing at her with a big group of ppl? Wes was a grown man then
@@jadebel7006 Laurel is not mean, she is screaming at the top of her lungs insane, aiming at the your weakest points in order to destroy you with words. And this didnt happen now once, it happened many times. So thats her pattern. That is not normal behavior. At least to me. If thats how you choose to interact with people and thats normal to you, thats your choice.
What Wes did was childish and gross, absolutely. When he was in his mid-20s. I would hope he would not do that to anyone now when he is 40. Laurel is almost 40 now, acting the same way she did 15 years ago.
Never clicked faster. Literally the GOATs of competition reality, and reality tv in general. I dont think its even possible for them to get the flowers they deserve
Both of these men have verbally ab×sed n b×lied yung, sometimes vulnerable yung ladies.. yet yall hate on laurel n support them? N no they haven't grown, Johnny is still friends with n singing the praises of homophobe Leroy, n still friendly with gr×pist Kenny.. n wes forcefully had dee committed to an asylum against her will, when she was upset about the cruel backlash from mtv. U may not have liked her joke, yes it was very insensitive, but she's from a culture where those type of jokes are acceptable, in the UK n aus we make risque jokes. It's OUR culture but she wasn't actually r%c!St n no one deserves to be treated like that. He is a eV!l sn÷ke .. they all are.. n love how yall forget so easy what Tina n Rachel did to poor Tonya
They need to do a season with Bananas Wes and CT drafting teams and coaching them up like ultimate fighter
I like this idea
Wes has only won twice.. he needs to coach himself first
3**** @@jadebel7006
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@@jadebel7006 he is just always playing against the numbers. But let's not act like he isn't one of the best of all time in dailies and eliminations. 😂
Wes is already regretting his choices saying yes to this intervew only 30 seconds in 🤣! I LOVE YOU BOTH!!
Bahahahaha!! They are incredible together though, right!!
Can’t wait to see Wes on the Villains, love his take on all the entitlement from the new generations.
Wes is my favorite challenger of all time. From being an entertainer to being a great competitor and strategist, he is the definition of a true challenger. 💯
Yeah, Wes kind of seemed half in towards the end of his reign but early Wes was fantastic.
Then why has he only won twice?
@@jadebel7006bcuz he is always target number 1 when he’s on a season.
CT is the best pound for pound Challenge Champion. He isn't afraid of eliminations, he is smart and can do puzzles and is good at the social game as well. 5 wins and and a comp beast. Yes Johnny has 7 wins but CT is the more well rounded athlete imo.
@@jadebel7006 Because he wasn't licking the boots and kissing the butts of the fraternity click that was Johnny, Evan, and Kenny and all their minions. He was always counter that group that outnumbered him and his outcasts. Then he went away for a while and came in 3rd on War of the Worlds which was very impressive and then won All Stars.
100% Agree with Wes on his perspective of Laurel.
Everytime i see Wes I automatically think about the time CT flung the shoe backwards and it whacked Wes in the face ahahahaha
I love Wes he’s such an articulate man, and he’s 100% right! Bananas is the biggest gas lighter😂
Johnny doesn't listen he just twists words to make people go on his side and Wes always clocks him. This Laurel obsession that Johnny has is gross. Stop enabling her bad behavior as a grown adult and comparing it behavior of 20somethings. She needs therapy. She needs to stop bullying everyone bc it's not just Cara.
She is in therapy. There is actually a podcast out there with her therapist.
@@nevarhoden7922 she needs more
@@nevarhoden7922she needs to be admitted, not just therapy.
I'm wondering if johnny is who laurel was saying declared their love for her this season?
They need to give her whatever they gave Paulie, that man is on Tyler Crispen levels of mellow now
Omg Wes 100% right on Laurel !!
Yes he is
Who would have thought they'd be the greatest duo to come out of the challenge? Not me! Their rivalry on TV has been the most entertainment to watch! I'm so glad they've become friends after so many years ❤
Ahahah love Wes for being the first guest to SPEAK his mind & to go against Banana’s opinion instead of agreeing with everything he said.
Yes! Even Jordan wasn't willing to go against Johnny. It's just so disappointing.
emily was against bananas in the cara vs laurel debate.
Everyone is on Cara’s side because Laurel is a bully who weaponizes abuse. Look at everyone’s faces in that scene. Laurel is a big baby woman.
A humongous Karen 😂😂
Laurel is the ultimate Karen
These 2 are literal gold together. I legitimately laughed out loud multiple times during this podcast
If Laurel was as "innocent" as you claim you wouldn't have to defend her so much. The fact that you said nobody agrees with you should have you rethinking what's going on with Cara and Laurel
Exactly my point! He's desperate to defend her so badly!
this is the second person to say theres no growth in laruel i think its time to wrap it up 😂
"I am the coyote. I don't need to catch the roadrunner" genius analogy...
Definitely two of my favorite cast members of the entire Challenge series.
Whenever these two together, Peak reality TV!!!! Need Wes back he def should’ve been Era 2 Mens!!!!🤦🏾♂️🔥🍌🍊
So obvious that Johnny is super hung up on this Laurel thing and seems to desperately want someone to agree with him and just no one is. Wes was spot on in his assessment.
When Bananas can't win his Laurel argument, and just tries to change the subject, bcuz, Wes is schooling him 😂😂 I love Bananas, but Wes is 100% right about Laurel.
Wes is completely right about Laurel. Laurel is always bitter and angry
I love watching these guys stroke their egos for an hour, they're the best to ever do it.
Narcissism at its finest...idiots
Love them both...I basically grew up with these guys.
Instant click when I saw this. The two best, together again.
I love Wes so much! Thanks for the reminder, Bananas. Gonna get subscribe to his patreon rn!
The best duo for sureeeeee, come back as a duo and win it all
Wes being the Cayote trying to create elaborate schemes to catch the Road Runner is such a great analogy. He only has 3 wins in his what, 20 year stint at the show? But he is still relevant and still one of the faces of the show.
I ♥️ you Wes!!!!! you should have your own talkshow!! You are so real and honest. You are the man!
These two need to have a podcast together. Just pure magic !
His intros for wes are always the best.
Definitely agree with Wes, LAUREL HAS HAD ZERO GROWTH. She's good at challenges, she's not good at THE CHALLENGE from a show perspective. Cara Maria has both personality and charisma, is entertaining and a beast in challenges.
I agree with Wes on everything. Laurel hasn't changed, she's only good coz of her size. She's not entertaining and you should stop bringing her up in every podcast coz you'll start alienating your fans. Every week you repeat the same thing, CT changed and Laurel has not you need to move on. You're looking stupid arguing with common sense now.
Exactly. I actually stopped watching episodes bc of his defending Laurel. I only came back because Wes is on.
I wont comment on anything, except for that you seem to not know how size works. Laurel isnt good because of her size. Shes good because shes good. Size can weigh you down, slow you down, make reactions slower, make cardio more difficult... unless its a competition where you get to put your body on top of the other person, or lift the most weight, size can actually be a detriment. Especially in a show where a lot of it is agility and endurance based
@@Buddhakingpen You're as delusional as Johnny lol
I think Laurel is a terrible person but to say she’s only good because of her size is absurd. She’s a good competitor. Big Easy was big and he sucked. Zack is big and broke completely in a final.
@@BuddhakingpenLaurels elimination record is legit against people significantly smaller than her in hands in physical eliminations. The few she has had that aren’t that she has lost. That’s why she cowarded out in all stars when she saw the elimination was something Cara probably would win against her.
Can you bring Wes every month and let him be your co-host? You two together is a very good podcast dynamic
Two 2️⃣ Challenge GOATS 🐐 🐐
Omg!!! You both are the best to ever do it!!!🩷
Gimme more Wes and Bananas 💪
Books aren’t allowed in the house cus Landon would sit around and read all day? 🤣🤣 if that’s true what a freakin legend lmaoo
It is true, it's a well known thing.
Best episode so far! Great two sided conversation (cof cof Johnny) with different points of view but so constructive.
again. minute 46 that's why ct is such a specimen. he looks like the big hall brawl guy they talk about but he still wins finals, incredible stamina , eats anything, very very smart. he is one of a kind!
One of the best podcasts I’ve heard
I agree.
All the physical elims of course benefit stronger/larger people. That is EXACTLY why Laurel has been so dominant.
Either Bananas missed the point or he's skating passed Wes' point. He actually proved his point when he brought up the soda situation, Laurel would still do that today if she's defending herself or someone else, at almost 40 its time to mature and evolve, like Wes said
I love the growth of their relationship
2:53 Wes is sitting there like this is why I quit the challenge 😂
That was a fantastic interview. Both are funny and honest.
Excellent episode! Cant wait for more Wes "bergy" next week!
This about to be the best episode and it ain’t even started
Wes glancing over at the camera when Bananas makes a ginger joke 😂 really wish Wes was included in this season
Johnny will never admit that he’s just plain wrong about Laurel. How is that comparable to CT when exactly what Wes’s argument was that everyone’s grown except her. Clearly, CT has grown! He proved Wes right lol Laurel brings no entertainment when most of us fast forward through her segments.
I really love how you guys are Bros now all these years later it's so nice to see and I'm really excited to see Wes on House of villains and I hope he can come back to the challenge one day.... You never know haha
Will forever love Wes for his genius ways! Legendary.
I want this as a forever talk show
So it's ok for Johnny to but into Michelle's relationship but when Cara tells Laurel to be careful, Cara is the bad person. Double Standard.
YES, This is spot on!!!!!!!
Wes is a great guest for Johnny because is not thrown off by Johnny’s random jr high quips.
I love Wes’s voice
Been waiting all day for this 😭
Finally WES !!!!
This the one we've been waiting for
“Of all the expensive stuff that I am now able to buy, a monster truck is the cheapest thing I can do” is a wild thing to say. Lol
My two favs!! Honestly if you two did more podcasts together would always click immediately 🎉
2 legendary goats. I loved this. The Challenge culture needed this.
I think Bananas has a boys crush on Wes and I totalty understand why! Great interview cant wait for part 2!
Well ofc, Wes is one of the rare specimens, he's a genius, because of him the Challenge became much more than it was.
I had to go pee when johnny started his wes introduction, when i come back he's just listing off random red head insults. This is gonna be a good one.
Have I already listened twice on Spotify? Of course. Am I gonna watch this again? Abso-freaking-lutely.
this hour just shows how insufferable bananas is and how much wes has grown
And then he wonders why he's getting Shaded by production...it's because ur boring you ROTTEN FRUIT ur story line NEVER changes ur a used up FRAT BOYCOTTING no dis to frat guys but Rotten Fruit is just sad...no growth ever and always promoting himself every chance he gets it's just yawn....at least Wes tries to be different and I dislike Wes also but I'll take him over Narcissistic Rotten Fruit ANY day
If he was so insufferable why is he one of the highest paid on the Challenge...Aka ur opinion is not shared by most
These two are gold! Their banter is hysterical and on point. Wes is completely right when they were discussing Laurel. No growth.. He uses himself and Johnny which is awesome- showing how they grew and tweaked their behavior.
Ct grew but Laurel hasn't. She loves the idea of being better than everyone and will lord it over anyone. Glad Wes hmmed at Bananas for the Laurel/Ninja thing cus the gals both lost on a technicality until it was pointed out and Laurel didn't believe it existed.
Wes and Laurel’s beef is still alive and well 😂 I remember their Twitter exchange when she said Kansas City is not expensive to live in. I hope one day they can make up
I completely missed that, what happened?
The way Laurel acts would you want to be friends with her? Or make up with her?
These two need a podcast together of them just talking sheeet! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I really enjoyed this 😊🤘 can't wait for part two!! ✨️
46:58 I hate how Bananas asks a question then he immediately answers the question. If you’re speaking to someone without a mind of their own they will take your view point. Thank God West has a mind of his own.
100% !!!!!
Laurel is NOT entertaining! She is mean, nasty and a bully. I agree with Wes regarding zero growth.
She causes drama...Drama is entertaining and u know it.
🙌🏾 Love this!!! Hilarious Bananas & Wes 😂
I wanted the challenge to keep doing the CT pro tips through the whole show.
been waiting for this allll day!! love you guys 🤩
Nice interview ❤
I am loving these upgrades!
Saying “old school Ct” immediately makes the point moot
LMFAOOOO Wes during the intro, yall crack me up😂😂😂😂
Great pod by the way
Great episode!
Wes has grown up, not Johnny!
Cause We is a Married father...there's no reason for Johnny to grow up ..
Wes and Bananas podcast is more entertaining than seasons 38 and 39 combined!
Kaycee is boring and does nothing on the show or any storyline and she narrates the episodes so y’all are lying 🤣😭💀
All she does is explain the challenge rules after the commercial break. be fr
We need a pod where you just show and explain everything in the background. I bet there's some great stories behind some of them.
Wes is such an Amazing Wonderful Person ❤❤❤❤❤
Easily your best episodes when Wes is on
🧡 I LOVE WES ! CHALLENGE CHAMP ! 👏🙌💪
Totally agree with Wes...These Newbies so wannabe the new OGs but won't do a third of what it takes...and then complain...and No opening an OF isn't going to work.
Love this duo!!
Oh my Gosh I had such a wonderful time with you guys just now!! One day, and calm down for both of you. Maybe we will see a podcast where you guys do exactly what you just did right now for whatever shows you want to and I will watch those shows just to see the podcast afterwards you guys are wonderful together.
CT, Johnny and Wes are the goats entertainment wise. Derrick and Derrell are so badass I love them. Those 5 as a team is my favorite.
You guys need some payback on Big Brother and get on that show. I'd definitely watch that