A couple notes on the "worst offender" rat puzzle: First, the boot and the stick are interchangeable items. Usually people throw the stick at the dog and the boot at the cat, but you can switch them around and not only win, but get the maximum score. Second, the rat chase will occur the first time you stand in that location by the bake house while holding at least one of these items. So you'll always be prepared, but perhaps you thought you weren't because you only had the stick. Third, and this is by far the least important, if you fail to solve this puzzle, you won't even have the privilege of dying by starvation. Graham only starves at the top of the mountain cliff, but he can't get there without the rope, which is in the inn's cellar. So you end up just stuck in Serenia instead.
Having just played this game for the first time recently, I was amazed at how charming it really was. I loved the narrator's voice (and King Graham's) and enjoyed clicking on all the things. It didn't feel like a chore, just an adventure. You touched on all my favorite little parts, specifically Crispin's janky walk and Graham's incessant knocking. I thoroughly enjoyed it :)
unwinnable states as a good thing? i still remember how atrocious how, if you don't pick up the rubik's cube in the (literally!) first three minutes of Space Quest 2, you will be stuck 15 hours later. the game should at least warn you that you're in an unwinnable state, so you don't waste 3 hours trying to solve a puzzle that has no solution!
For sure! I never experienced it myself, but even if you look in that room on XOS4, it says there are lockers on the wall, which as a grown up user you would probably decide to open them and see what's inside. However, I was a young kid when I first played SQII, and didn't even know what a locker was at that point!
I have a feeling that 6:52 and 7:02 would make for some Al Lowe Leisure Suit Larry jokes. I know that KQ6 is probably the better game, but KQ5 is beautiful and my favorite in the series.
well over to gog to make another purchase .. damn you nostalgia and making me rebuy the games of my childhood .... that I may or may not enjoy replaying
Since KQ5 was only the second adventure game I ever played, I never minded when Cedric didn't offer useful info or follow to places; I just thought it was super-cool to have a sentient animal companion. :D
Do eet. In fact, check out the remakes of most of the early games. They are awesome, especially the AGD reimagining/remake of Kings Quest 2. Eventually we will get a proper Kings Quest 4 remake as well... Eventually.
@@SageOwl when. Westend tried and did away with it. The kq4 3d version doesn't look appealing. The same people working on the silver lining but I prefer something similar to agdi
I grew up on this game. I was like 5 when it came out. I remember my parents waking us kids up in the middle of the night to tell us that they had found out how to get out of the witch's Forest. And we went up to watch them throw emeralds in Honey on the ground, like who would have ever thought of that, to catch a leprechaun. This game was mesmerizing and magical to me as a child. I love it still to this day.
I love the “Cold as Ice” reference on the Ice Queen part! When the house next door to mine went up for sale, I noticed that the realtor’s name on the sign was “Suzie Ice,” which led to months of constant refrains of that song’s chorus. somehow, it never got old.
That pie in the Yeti's face was the absolute climax of this game. I remember just cruising through this game to the castle after getting past the snake. Then I was stuck at the castle for a while in a unwinable state. Thankfully my sister was willing to go through the now boring beginning with me.
This was my first trip through an adventure game. It came in a sampler sleeve of CDs with doom and such. I loved it but couldn't get anywhere. Then my friend told me he had the entire collection of all of the games and complete walkthrough which read like a novelization of all the games and was almost more entertaining than playing the games. But it was also when I learned walkthroughs are not cheating.
Sonny Bonds has his gun. Roger Wilco has his Plunger. Larry Laffer has his so called way with the ladies and King Graham has his...custard pie to throw at yetis...yay!!!
And that's why I always carry a custard pie with me in my pack wherever I go (as well as moldy cheese and rotting fish) - I'm not a violent person, but some jerks just want to get in my way. But my pack is getting a bit rank, and the dogs are starting to chase me...I better bake a new pie...
Thank you *so much*; someone who finally pointed out that Alexander flat out lies to Mordack, because Alexander had to know *exactly* and purposefully what he was doing when he polymorphed Manannan into a cat!!
Ah, right. Considering KQ5 was my first King’s Quest and I didn’t know any of the back story, I’m citing Alexander for lying to the audience rather than to Mordack.
Ah Graham and his death screams. I love that sound for some odd reason. If I didn't use it at work I would change my message tone to that right now after the reminder
It's just how Graham's tone is usually so poised and emotionally controlled throughout the story, but then out of the blue he let's out such a blood curdling scream before death! It's sort of hilarious.
This is the first point and click I ever played, and fortunately my dad bought the playthrough guide before I tried playing it. I would never have made it through without that guide! This video brought back a ton of memories lol.
I remember this one. My grandmother had it. Also, of course moldy cheese is important. People underestimate it's power. The Federation starship Voyager was almost destroyed by cheese once. No, I am not kidding. Google that shit.
Something I didn't notice until much later is how inconsistently the audio was recorded- some voices are clearly done at a studio and others in what could be a bathroom. I enjoyed this game at the time but in retrospect the point & clicks felt more constricted, less like an adventure game, and often more difficult just because of the clunky interface.
If you listen closely at the end when Graham rescues his family, and Cassima approaches the family, you can hear "Girl in the Tower" playing while her and Alexander are talking.
7:40 ''...crispin shows up'' he does? where? all i see is robin hood, xena, and Richard Attenborough as John (the dinosaur guy) Hammond from Jurassic Park 1
Hi Roses. Fun to learn that it was your first point and click game, as it was mine as well. I even got it from the same gamebundle, which included a couple more games like a Space Quest title, Stellar and who can forget the encyclopedia, which I actually spend some time playing. Keep up the reviews!
My first kq game was 6 and still reminds us how gorgeous and how scary it can be all at once...from dark room catacombs to drowning by a disguised gene and more
PushingUpRoses I am now 20 years old, I played the original King Quest when I was only 5, I loved them, I am shocked to have learned that you also were inspired to become a writer by this series, it had the same effect on me.
I loved all the Kings Quest games as well, to the point that I went and got the Kings Quest Collection back in the day and have KQ8. You sure did a great job at spelling out the good, the bad and the overall score (nothing really ugly about this game). Great review and thanks for the video.
The game is good fun and the one thing I liked the most about it (putting aside the dead end scenarios) is in most cases the flaws are entertaining too.
I will forever love this game it reminds me of a simpler times, but that witch was the bane of my existence, even with the amulet she trapped me in the forest until death by spider or venus fly trap. I was so annoyed when buff king Graham couldn't muscle her out of the way to get into her home. Oh and I needed Cedric to warn me not to go to the around BUT HE WASN'T FREAKIN THERE.
I love that you guys comment positively on each others’ videos- point and click adventure gamers comprise a small community on the internet and it’s good to see that kind of mutual support 🦊
This was one of my very first "High-End" games that I bought for my brand new NEC Powermate 286 Plus! Blazing 12Mhz speed (I used a little program to get it to 16Mhz). I even bought a Sound Blaster (8bit) for it as well (Gasp $125!!) Other than this one, my other most favorite King's Quest games are: King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow; and King's Quest VII: The Princeless Bride
Ever since the recent MS DOS game craze (I.E. Oregon Trail) I've been reliving the fun of my child hood playing Sierra games. Can't for the life of me remember how I made it through KQ1 and 2 but I definitely remember KQ5 and really enjoyed your video review! BTW, nice bags on the Cold as Ice rendition!
I played the original King's Quest game a couple of times on my childminder's PC when I was 4 but this was the first game in the series I played properly. It took me just over a year to complete the game first time, the cat and mouse puzzle still haunts my nightmares.
Mystery solved!!! I always loved this game, but I also always wondered how we ended up with it in our house. Nobody ever specifically bought it, and I just one day noticed the CD, by itself, on our computer desk. It's had me confused for 25 years... Apparently it came bundled with our Compton's Encyclopedia! Thank you!!!
This and KQ6 were my introduction to the series, and still my (rose-colored) favorites. I enjoy the voices, despite their quality. I also got KQ5 in a random CD pack.
This was the first point-and-clicker I played, too, though I hadn't had much experience with computer adventure games previously (at least, not beyond Colossal Cave Adventure). I had the floppy version, though, without digitized voices.
I own the King's Quest Collection which is the first 7 games and thanks to emulator technology I can play them whenever I want. It even has the remake of the original King's Quest which was a huge surprise considering how different that game actually works.
I've heard people complain about the moon logic of using a custard pie to defeat a yeti, but honestly, that puzzle makes complete sense to me. I guess back when my seven-year-old self was watching my dad play this, even then I knew custard pies were meant to be thrown at people, Three Stooges style. I majored in creative writing in college, too, and while more recently I immediately think of books like the Harry Potter series as the inspiration for my love of fantasy, I have to remind myself that it really began years earlier with the King's Quest games. I think I would still be a writer without them, but I'm not sure my writing would be going in quite the same direction.
This was actually my first point and click as well. However, I didn't have the voiced version as a child, only text. So, the Cedric-hating that I heard about far later didn't make nearly as much sense at first. Having done a playthrough lately, I can see what everybody was talking about. Also, as a side note, I just read the article in the latest Game Informer about the revival of a new King's Quest with Graham. I'm Extremely excited at what they showed!
I had that exact bundle pack as a child, it folded out length wise and had like 10 cds. I remember Doom being a part of it for sure cause I loved that game and KQ5.
The one item that always hung me up was getting the crystal shard in the Yeti's cave. Then again, I originally played the NES version, and those graphics... Oof.
Great review! I remember getting this as part of the "Sierra Award Winners" for the Mac to play on my dad's ridiculously underpowered Mac LC II, and eating the pie when starving in the mountain (which subsequently screwed me over) It came with this, Red Baron and Rise of the Dragon. Can you review some Dynamix adventures? :)
Though it's a lot newer, it'd be interesting to hear your take on Long Live the Queen, as it's, in a way, a puzzle game. It's all about using what limited time you have to build up the right skills and make the right choices to not get stabbed/poisoned/drowned/shot/eaten by monsters/etc. Due to all this, it can take several attempts due to hitting brick walls, and it's exceptionally punishing. Plus you can be a magical girl who can burn a guy into a pile of ash without a second though.
Fun fact. In not sure why, but the string riff from Mordack's castle is in Space Quest 4 during the torture scene (before it gets interrupted by the sea slug.)
Holy crap I got the SAME compilation and it was my first time with a point and click too!! Fond memories indeed.. I recall the compilation came in a holder that opened like an accordion and was one long strip of a individual disk sleeves..... So weird you got it too, must be close in age..... That's awesome 😆
I actually had this game on Mac of all things, since I almost never saw Sierra port any of their games on Mac, so I originally got into QFG thanks to a neighbor friend who had them on PC of course. But I don't know if it was my copy or just a bad port cause there was the game-breaking bug where the tailor was giving me the cape if I recall, and he's just walk around me forever and I couldn't do anything to interrupt it and had to force quit every time. Maybe there was a patch, but I didn't know well enough to find it, or if this was why they didn't do more Mac ports since I was well aware of their propensity for bugs, especially in QFG4.
I became a world traveler because of this games. You are so right on games having influence on our young minds. The amount of research that went into these games are really admirable
This was one of my first computer games (obviously I was way too young to successfully complete the game), and I loved it dearly. I still love the King's Quest series, and I'm super excited that it's being revived (hopefully any new games that come out are as good as the old ones).
I really liked this video. I don't know if I'd play this game without a strategyguide, but the story looks interesting and your review makes me want to check it out, or maybe King' s Quest VI. Either way, awesome video.
3:24 Well, it's a trope that Dwarves be inexplicably portrayed as Scottish in a lot of fantasy media, and Gnomes are sort of of related to Dwarves. So, maybe it should be a trope.
I have vague memories of this game. I knew I had played a King's Quest at my cousin's, but I wasn't sure which one until now. I remember the cheese and that machine, but that was about it.
Great review Roses! I also grew up with this game and have fond feelings toward it even though it is very flawed. Also absence is misspelled in the title :P
It's great that a game inspired you to start on Fantastic Writing. Many games have inspired me to write, so I felt identified with what you said. Video games are great, and some of them have great stories, stories that can't be written or filmed, stories you have to play and live them. Keep working on your videos, they are great. I would also like to check some of your writing, if you have anything somewhere. Good luck! P/S: Sorry for my English, it's not my mother tongue xD . Greetings from Argentina!
hey roses was grahm originally a knight a highly trained professionals soldier, when not on a quest spent a lot of time training and exercising when not on dangerous quests for his lord? he kept in shape because he lives in a dangerous land where weird things happen all the time.
Oh man... the wolf's voice at 5:57... I'm laughing so hard.... "ate a muppet's voice box" indeed! I really "missed out" with the floppy disk version I have.
I'm so glad LucasArts decided to not have any dead ends or cheap deaths in their games starting with Monkey Island. Sorry but for me an unwinnable situation just ruins all the fun in an adventure game. Not only is there no way of knowing whether you've reached a dead end in the first place but there's also no way to find out *where* exactly you missed something so you might as well just start over from the very beginning. ...which just sucks bottom. :I That's why I'd never recommend anyone to play Maniac Mansion without someone at your side who has played the game before and can tell you not to do certain things.
It never ruined the fun for me, honestly. I can see how it would for others, but when I was young, I took it as a challenge, Even the unwinnables that took me sometimes years to figure out. I find that I liked spending that much time on the game, and I liked revisiting the game a lot at certain points in my life.
PushingUpRoses My favorite unwinnable situation that (my dad) actually is winnable is forgetting to make the cat cookie in KQ3. You have exactly an hour to finish the game if you fail to do it. Somehow my dad pulled it off anyway.
Kisai KQ3 has been one of my favorite games for awhile. I also managed to pull it off without a walkthrough, but it also took me several years. I was the happiest person alive when I did figure it out. :D
PushingUpRoses the KQ3 spellbook was actually a cool form of copy-protection, though it wasn't quite legible enough that I kept getting it wrong lol. KQ4 also had the clock to beat. In comparison, the first Laura Bow (Colonel's Bequest) game, probably had more ways to die than ways to advance the plot.
1. I somehow only just discovered how many cool games you have reviewed, so I have more things to watch, thank you! :) 2. I had absolutely no memory of this game having voices. How could I have missed this detail? XD
These are games I saw all over the place when I was younger. However, I was more into Larry games at that point so sort of missed these and the Police Quest games too ;) Great review cheers ;)x
My first experience with this game was the NES version. Which did not have a permanent save option, but rather a password system and a "temporary save" option. Useful for the current session to go back before a foul up, but man did it suck when I turned it off and later found I should've written down that long-ass password. Also, for some reason, I -really- like the music from when Graham talks to Crispin in his house, and finding that the same song plays in this version is pretty cool.
Roses is singing again! I think everyone wants more of that :) And about the game, I never played any kings quest games except for the first, witch i liked, and I tried playing the sixth, but they never stuck with me.
this was the first pint n click adventure i ever played as well, and i got it with the same doom shareware and encyclopedia pack thing that came with my compaq 486Dx2 66Mhz computer yeeeah what what! I remember finding the needle in the haystack and that stupid f'n owl the most for some reason probably cause its been like 21 years or something ha
I always feel left out in the cold whenever people gather to reminisce over the King's Quest series. I really, really wish I could join their blissful nostalgia, but to me, Sierra adventure games are irrimediably associated with frustration and hostility towards the goddamn ways the games fuck you over and become unwinnable, without telling you for several hours until the very end. "Oh man, you mean you didn't pick up that one-pixel item on the first screen of the game, even though you had no reason to know it was even there or any clue that it was important or required? Well too bad: now you can't win on the final screen. Back to the beginning with you." Well fuck you too, game. Forgive me for trying to love you.
Ghost81 I guess I Just always played the wrong Sierra games. I don't recall any game but KQ5 being frustrating. I feel like, because that's the one most people played, that that particular game sets the tone for how people remember Sierra in it's entirety.
I could totally see that. I think that's just a matter of taste, though. I like the Lucas Arts games a ton, but as GAMES, I always thought they were vastly inferior to other adventure games. Sam and Max, which I love, had puzzles that were almost impossible to figure out. Replaying it, even knowing the answers, I sometimes have a hard time progressing just because they are so quirky (the ball of twine, specifically). Full Throttle is amazing, but the puzzles on that aren't even puzzles (click on the ramp to make the Cave Fish fall in the gully.). Day Of The Tentacle is the only Lucas Arts game that I think is a really great adventure game.
Moldy cheese powering the machine reminds me of the end of Back to the Future when Doc powers the Delorean with garbage and banana peels. KQ5 is the only KQ game I never got to try out.
Graham: And my son, Alexander, who started this whole mess...
Alexander: Sorry for escaping slavery and my own inpending death, dad.
Manannan started the whole mess, not Alexander, who was only a baby at the time.
I know. Just putting in my own reponse to an actual line from King Graham in the game.
A couple notes on the "worst offender" rat puzzle:
First, the boot and the stick are interchangeable items. Usually people throw the stick at the dog and the boot at the cat, but you can switch them around and not only win, but get the maximum score.
Second, the rat chase will occur the first time you stand in that location by the bake house while holding at least one of these items. So you'll always be prepared, but perhaps you thought you weren't because you only had the stick.
Third, and this is by far the least important, if you fail to solve this puzzle, you won't even have the privilege of dying by starvation. Graham only starves at the top of the mountain cliff, but he can't get there without the rope, which is in the inn's cellar. So you end up just stuck in Serenia instead.
Thank you, it's annoying how many people don't know this
Sorry about the initial typo in the title; I'm not sure it why it wasn't picked up by the spell checker. It's fixed. Now no one will eeeever knooooow.
Awww, but I thought "Absinthe Makes the Heart Go Yonder" made more sense :(
Even though you just told us about it.
Ah... 256 Color VGA Graphics! Oooh Yeah!!! xD
Your sins are forgiven, fair lady :)
Please come back we miss you
"What about Cedric?"
"Shut the hell up, Graham."
Makes me laugh insanely every time.
We all were thinking it!
Having just played this game for the first time recently, I was amazed at how charming it really was. I loved the narrator's voice (and King Graham's) and enjoyed clicking on all the things. It didn't feel like a chore, just an adventure.
You touched on all my favorite little parts, specifically Crispin's janky walk and Graham's incessant knocking. I thoroughly enjoyed it :)
I played the original 5.25" floppy version back in 1992. I'm only just now learning that there were voices on the CD version!
unwinnable states as a good thing? i still remember how atrocious how, if you don't pick up the rubik's cube in the (literally!) first three minutes of Space Quest 2, you will be stuck 15 hours later. the game should at least warn you that you're in an unwinnable state, so you don't waste 3 hours trying to solve a puzzle that has no solution!
nice username bruh!
For sure! I never experienced it myself, but even if you look in that room on XOS4, it says there are lockers on the wall, which as a grown up user you would probably decide to open them and see what's inside. However, I was a young kid when I first played SQII, and didn't even know what a locker was at that point!
8:45 If you talk to the witch after you get the amulet, Graham tants her in a childish way but somehow the voice actor makes it sound respectable.
My main memory of this game is dying in the desert. A lot.
I always died most in the swamps where the witch kept on messing with me.
I have a feeling that 6:52 and 7:02 would make for some Al Lowe Leisure Suit Larry jokes. I know that KQ6 is probably the better game, but KQ5 is beautiful and my favorite in the series.
well over to gog to make another purchase .. damn you nostalgia and making me rebuy the games of my childhood .... that I may or may not enjoy replaying
Since KQ5 was only the second adventure game I ever played, I never minded when Cedric didn't offer useful info or follow to places; I just thought it was super-cool to have a sentient animal companion. :D
It was mostly after the CD version with voice over when people began to dislike him.
I really need to sit down and go through the King's Quest series again! :D
Agreed.
Do eet.
In fact, check out the remakes of most of the early games. They are awesome, especially the AGD reimagining/remake of Kings Quest 2.
Eventually we will get a proper Kings Quest 4 remake as well...
Eventually.
@@SageOwl when. Westend tried and did away with it. The kq4 3d version doesn't look appealing. The same people working on the silver lining but I prefer something similar to agdi
I grew up on this game. I was like 5 when it came out. I remember my parents waking us kids up in the middle of the night to tell us that they had found out how to get out of the witch's Forest. And we went up to watch them throw emeralds in Honey on the ground, like who would have ever thought of that, to catch a leprechaun. This game was mesmerizing and magical to me as a child. I love it still to this day.
@ryan jones
You're right. A little Shoemaker elf. I was just thinking leprechaun because of the green emeralds
"Oh, That's just an old piece of magical white snake."
*Wink.*
No. We're talking about sexual Harrasment here - and I *don't* have to take it.
HERE I GO AGAIN ON MY OWN
Just wanted to say I love your videos. I have fond memories of a small number of these games. Much appreciated.
I love the “Cold as Ice” reference on the Ice Queen part! When the house next door to mine went up for sale, I noticed that the realtor’s name on the sign was “Suzie Ice,” which led to months of constant refrains of that song’s chorus. somehow, it never got old.
That pie in the Yeti's face was the absolute climax of this game. I remember just cruising through this game to the castle after getting past the snake. Then I was stuck at the castle for a while in a unwinable state. Thankfully my sister was willing to go through the now boring beginning with me.
1:53
"EVERYONE MOVES FUCKING SLOW! ..... EVERYBODY MOVES REALLY FUCKING SLOW!"
+theAidster Oh, Jontron!
This was my first trip through an adventure game. It came in a sampler sleeve of CDs with doom and such. I loved it but couldn't get anywhere. Then my friend told me he had the entire collection of all of the games and complete walkthrough which read like a novelization of all the games and was almost more entertaining than playing the games. But it was also when I learned walkthroughs are not cheating.
Sonny Bonds has his gun.
Roger Wilco has his Plunger.
Larry Laffer has his so called way with the ladies
and King Graham has his...custard pie to throw at yetis...yay!!!
And that's why I always carry a custard pie with me in my pack wherever I go (as well as moldy cheese and rotting fish) - I'm not a violent person, but some jerks just want to get in my way.
But my pack is getting a bit rank, and the dogs are starting to chase me...I better bake a new pie...
And Gabriel Knight have his talisman and also some charm.
Thank you *so much*; someone who finally pointed out that Alexander flat out lies to Mordack, because Alexander had to know *exactly* and purposefully what he was doing when he polymorphed Manannan into a cat!!
ObiWanBillKenobi is he really going to say that to mordack? You're allowed to lie to the villain
Ah, right. Considering KQ5 was my first King’s Quest and I didn’t know any of the back story, I’m citing Alexander for lying to the audience rather than to Mordack.
Ah Graham and his death screams. I love that sound for some odd reason. If I didn't use it at work I would change my message tone to that right now after the reminder
It's just how Graham's tone is usually so poised and emotionally controlled throughout the story, but then out of the blue he let's out such a blood curdling scream before death! It's sort of hilarious.
This is the first point and click I ever played, and fortunately my dad bought the playthrough guide before I tried playing it. I would never have made it through without that guide! This video brought back a ton of memories lol.
Kings Quest is a huge inspiration to me too! I'm so excited for the new one
I think this one actually has the best King's Quest art. Really nice use of color and light.
I remember this one. My grandmother had it.
Also, of course moldy cheese is important. People underestimate it's power. The Federation starship Voyager was almost destroyed by cheese once.
No, I am not kidding. Google that shit.
Neelix is a shithead 😋
Something I didn't notice until much later is how inconsistently the audio was recorded- some voices are clearly done at a studio and others in what could be a bathroom. I enjoyed this game at the time but in retrospect the point & clicks felt more constricted, less like an adventure game, and often more difficult just because of the clunky interface.
I never nap with my wand unattended...
I always get so sleepy after a bit of wand brandishing though - I can't be too hard on Mordack.
If you listen closely at the end when Graham rescues his family, and Cassima approaches the family, you can hear "Girl in the Tower" playing while her and Alexander are talking.
I'm reaching out, please tell me what to dooOOoo!
7:40 ''...crispin shows up'' he does? where? all i see is robin hood, xena, and Richard Attenborough as John (the dinosaur guy) Hammond from Jurassic Park 1
I'm so glad I clicked ProJared's annotation and check this channel out, 10/10 would sub again. Also her lipstick game is ON POINT!
Oh my god I forgot about "Cold as ice" thanks for giving me a shot in the head with nostalgia.
Hi Roses. Fun to learn that it was your first point and click game, as it was mine as well. I even got it from the same gamebundle, which included a couple more games like a Space Quest title, Stellar and who can forget the encyclopedia, which I actually spend some time playing. Keep up the reviews!
My first kq game was 6 and still reminds us how gorgeous and how scary it can be all at once...from dark room catacombs to drowning by a disguised gene and more
PushingUpRoses I am now 20 years old, I played the original King Quest when I was only 5, I loved them, I am shocked to have learned that you also were inspired to become a writer by this series, it had the same effect on me.
A new Roses video?
My joy knows no limits!
Entertaining as always, keep up with the good work Roses ;)
I loved all the Kings Quest games as well, to the point that I went and got the Kings Quest Collection back in the day and have KQ8. You sure did a great job at spelling out the good, the bad and the overall score (nothing really ugly about this game). Great review and thanks for the video.
Wow, I got that exact same game bundle for Christmas too. That was the start of my love of PC games.
Ha, ha, ha...
"What is this a castle for ants?"
I loved the Zoolander reference. It has to be like 3 times bigger...
I actually do love this game. As long as you know where not to get caught in dead ends it's so good. Forget the haters. :D
I really do too. I acknowledge its flaws while still loving the hell out of it. It's true love.
***** I know it's a stupid cliché phrase, but I just felt like saying it, alright?
The game is good fun and the one thing I liked the most about it (putting aside the dead end scenarios) is in most cases the flaws are entertaining too.
I will forever love this game it reminds me of a simpler times, but that witch was the bane of my existence, even with the amulet she trapped me in the forest until death by spider or venus fly trap. I was so annoyed when buff king Graham couldn't muscle her out of the way to get into her home. Oh and I needed Cedric to warn me not to go to the around BUT HE WASN'T FREAKIN THERE.
I love that you guys comment positively on each others’ videos- point and click adventure gamers comprise a small community on the internet and it’s good to see that kind of mutual support 🦊
This was one of my very first "High-End" games that I bought for my brand new NEC Powermate 286 Plus! Blazing 12Mhz speed (I used a little program to get it to 16Mhz). I even bought a Sound Blaster (8bit) for it as well (Gasp $125!!)
Other than this one, my other most favorite King's Quest games are: King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow; and King's Quest VII: The Princeless Bride
Ever since the recent MS DOS game craze (I.E. Oregon Trail) I've been reliving the fun of my child hood playing Sierra games. Can't for the life of me remember how I made it through KQ1 and 2 but I definitely remember KQ5 and really enjoyed your video review! BTW, nice bags on the Cold as Ice rendition!
I loved that you mentioned Chrispin's "walk" to the chest. I have always laughed at that and no one else has ever mentioned it!
Yeah! He was a little less stiff in the disk version of the game for some reason.
I played the original King's Quest game a couple of times on my childminder's PC when I was 4 but this was the first game in the series I played properly. It took me just over a year to complete the game first time, the cat and mouse puzzle still haunts my nightmares.
Mystery solved!!! I always loved this game, but I also always wondered how we ended up with it in our house. Nobody ever specifically bought it, and I just one day noticed the CD, by itself, on our computer desk. It's had me confused for 25 years... Apparently it came bundled with our Compton's Encyclopedia! Thank you!!!
To quote Jontron, King Graham looks more like a mailman than a king.
This and KQ6 were my introduction to the series, and still my (rose-colored) favorites. I enjoy the voices, despite their quality. I also got KQ5 in a random CD pack.
The Weeping Willow Tree's song is beautiful.
This was the first point-and-clicker I played, too, though I hadn't had much experience with computer adventure games previously (at least, not beyond Colossal Cave Adventure). I had the floppy version, though, without digitized voices.
Just discovered your channel, kqv was the first for me as well, loved it, and hated cedric too lol. Thank you so much for the memories!
I own the King's Quest Collection which is the first 7 games and thanks to emulator technology I can play them whenever I want. It even has the remake of the original King's Quest which was a huge surprise considering how different that game actually works.
I've heard people complain about the moon logic of using a custard pie to defeat a yeti, but honestly, that puzzle makes complete sense to me. I guess back when my seven-year-old self was watching my dad play this, even then I knew custard pies were meant to be thrown at people, Three Stooges style.
I majored in creative writing in college, too, and while more recently I immediately think of books like the Harry Potter series as the inspiration for my love of fantasy, I have to remind myself that it really began years earlier with the King's Quest games. I think I would still be a writer without them, but I'm not sure my writing would be going in quite the same direction.
This was actually my first point and click as well. However, I didn't have the voiced version as a child, only text. So, the Cedric-hating that I heard about far later didn't make nearly as much sense at first. Having done a playthrough lately, I can see what everybody was talking about. Also, as a side note, I just read the article in the latest Game Informer about the revival of a new King's Quest with Graham. I'm Extremely excited at what they showed!
I had that exact bundle pack as a child, it folded out length wise and had like 10 cds. I remember Doom being a part of it for sure cause I loved that game and KQ5.
The one item that always hung me up was getting the crystal shard in the Yeti's cave.
Then again, I originally played the NES version, and those graphics... Oof.
Great review! I remember getting this as part of the "Sierra Award Winners" for the Mac to play on my dad's ridiculously underpowered Mac LC II, and eating the pie when starving in the mountain (which subsequently screwed me over) It came with this, Red Baron and Rise of the Dragon. Can you review some Dynamix adventures? :)
kings quest 3 was my first pc game i ever owned for my tandy 1000 hx back in '88.
I had that same box with Doom, Encarta, and Kings Quest 5. It was so weird but amazing fun for a young computer nerd.
Though it's a lot newer, it'd be interesting to hear your take on Long Live the Queen, as it's, in a way, a puzzle game. It's all about using what limited time you have to build up the right skills and make the right choices to not get stabbed/poisoned/drowned/shot/eaten by monsters/etc.
Due to all this, it can take several attempts due to hitting brick walls, and it's exceptionally punishing.
Plus you can be a magical girl who can burn a guy into a pile of ash without a second though.
Fun fact. In not sure why, but the string riff from Mordack's castle is in Space Quest 4 during the torture scene (before it gets interrupted by the sea slug.)
I loved this when it came out! I did not have the cd version, so I missed out on the voices.
Holy crap I got the SAME compilation and it was my first time with a point and click too!! Fond memories indeed.. I recall the compilation came in a holder that opened like an accordion and was one long strip of a individual disk sleeves..... So weird you got it too, must be close in age..... That's awesome 😆
This was the first game I bought that used 256-color VGA graphics. Oh, it was glorious!
You did King's Quest! =) So many great memories in this franchise... oh wait... you have *MORE* PC game reviews...?!?
The King's Quest V review! My joy knows no limits!
I actually had this game on Mac of all things, since I almost never saw Sierra port any of their games on Mac, so I originally got into QFG thanks to a neighbor friend who had them on PC of course. But I don't know if it was my copy or just a bad port cause there was the game-breaking bug where the tailor was giving me the cape if I recall, and he's just walk around me forever and I couldn't do anything to interrupt it and had to force quit every time. Maybe there was a patch, but I didn't know well enough to find it, or if this was why they didn't do more Mac ports since I was well aware of their propensity for bugs, especially in QFG4.
I became a world traveler because of this games. You are so right on games having influence on our young minds. The amount of research that went into these games are really admirable
King's Quest 4 was the first Point & Click adventure game I ever played on PC. Shadowgate for NES was my first ever Point & Click game
This was one of my first computer games (obviously I was way too young to successfully complete the game), and I loved it dearly. I still love the King's Quest series, and I'm super excited that it's being revived (hopefully any new games that come out are as good as the old ones).
I love this game =) Thanks Roses! I hope you touch on more Sierra games in the future ^^
I really liked this video. I don't know if I'd play this game without a strategyguide, but the story looks interesting and your review makes me want to check it out, or maybe King' s Quest VI. Either way, awesome video.
3:24 Well, it's a trope that Dwarves be inexplicably portrayed as Scottish in a lot of fantasy media, and Gnomes are sort of of related to Dwarves. So, maybe it should be a trope.
The pie always gets the yeti.
I kinda wish the Yeti had his own blood curdling scream when falling.
Love the green Roses.
5:20 - "AND THE YET-TAY!"
programmers =/= actors!
+Michael Scally It's not a fucking mummy? lol
I have vague memories of this game. I knew I had played a King's Quest at my cousin's, but I wasn't sure which one until now. I remember the cheese and that machine, but that was about it.
Cold as ice . . that was pleasantly heart warming.
I see what u did there. I saw everything, I saw it all.
Great review Roses! I also grew up with this game and have fond feelings toward it even though it is very flawed. Also absence is misspelled in the title :P
One of my favorite kings quests!
It's great that a game inspired you to start on Fantastic Writing. Many games have inspired me to write, so I felt identified with what you said. Video games are great, and some of them have great stories, stories that can't be written or filmed, stories you have to play and live them. Keep working on your videos, they are great. I would also like to check some of your writing, if you have anything somewhere. Good luck!
P/S: Sorry for my English, it's not my mother tongue xD . Greetings from Argentina!
hey roses was grahm originally a knight a highly trained professionals soldier, when not on a quest spent a lot of time training and exercising when not on dangerous quests for his lord? he kept in shape because he lives in a dangerous land where weird things happen all the time.
Oh man... the wolf's voice at 5:57... I'm laughing so hard.... "ate a muppet's voice box" indeed!
I really "missed out" with the floppy disk version I have.
I loved the serious kinda weird graphical style. My fav in the KQ series. Only the puzzles and the dead ends were a pita ;)
You have a killer singing voice!! x)
This was my first point and click game as well - although my version wasn't voice acted
I'm so glad LucasArts decided to not have any dead ends or cheap deaths in their games starting with Monkey Island.
Sorry but for me an unwinnable situation just ruins all the fun in an adventure game.
Not only is there no way of knowing whether you've reached a dead end in the first place but there's also no way to find out *where* exactly you missed something so you might as well just start over from the very beginning.
...which just sucks bottom. :I
That's why I'd never recommend anyone to play Maniac Mansion without someone at your side who has played the game before and can tell you not to do certain things.
It never ruined the fun for me, honestly. I can see how it would for others, but when I was young, I took it as a challenge, Even the unwinnables that took me sometimes years to figure out. I find that I liked spending that much time on the game, and I liked revisiting the game a lot at certain points in my life.
PushingUpRoses My favorite unwinnable situation that (my dad) actually is winnable is forgetting to make the cat cookie in KQ3. You have exactly an hour to finish the game if you fail to do it. Somehow my dad pulled it off anyway.
Kisai KQ3 has been one of my favorite games for awhile. I also managed to pull it off without a walkthrough, but it also took me several years. I was the happiest person alive when I did figure it out. :D
PushingUpRoses the KQ3 spellbook was actually a cool form of copy-protection, though it wasn't quite legible enough that I kept getting it wrong lol. KQ4 also had the clock to beat. In comparison, the first Laura Bow (Colonel's Bequest) game, probably had more ways to die than ways to advance the plot.
*****
Boopy doop~
1. I somehow only just discovered how many cool games you have reviewed, so I have more things to watch, thank you! :)
2. I had absolutely no memory of this game having voices. How could I have missed this detail? XD
These are games I saw all over the place when I was younger. However, I was more into Larry games at that point so sort of missed these and the Police Quest games too ;)
Great review cheers ;)x
2:06 He's got so much junk in the trunk he can barely make it to the other trunk with all the wizard junk!
My first experience with this game was the NES version. Which did not have a permanent save option, but rather a password system and a "temporary save" option. Useful for the current session to go back before a foul up, but man did it suck when I turned it off and later found I should've written down that long-ass password. Also, for some reason, I -really- like the music from when Graham talks to Crispin in his house, and finding that the same song plays in this version is pretty cool.
2:28 Narrator from Ultima: Ascension prologue?
Great as always Roses.
Roses is singing again!
I think everyone wants more of that :)
And about the game, I never played any kings quest games except for the first, witch i liked, and I tried playing the sixth, but they never stuck with me.
this was the first pint n click adventure i ever played as well, and i got it with the same doom shareware and encyclopedia pack thing that came with my compaq 486Dx2 66Mhz computer yeeeah what what! I remember finding the needle in the haystack and that stupid f'n owl the most for some reason probably cause its been like 21 years or something ha
Actually the cat/rat sequence won't trigger until either the stick or the boot (both interchangeable items) are picked up.
Please do Conquest of the Longbow
I always feel left out in the cold whenever people gather to reminisce over the King's Quest series. I really, really wish I could join their blissful nostalgia, but to me, Sierra adventure games are irrimediably associated with frustration and hostility towards the goddamn ways the games fuck you over and become unwinnable, without telling you for several hours until the very end.
"Oh man, you mean you didn't pick up that one-pixel item on the first screen of the game, even though you had no reason to know it was even there or any clue that it was important or required? Well too bad: now you can't win on the final screen. Back to the beginning with you."
Well fuck you too, game. Forgive me for trying to love you.
Don't fret. It's not you, it's the game.
PushingUpRoses I wish I were better at Stockholm syndrome. Maybe that way I'be able to enjoy Sierra games more =(
Or Dark Souls
Ghost81 I guess I Just always played the wrong Sierra games. I don't recall any game but KQ5 being frustrating. I feel like, because that's the one most people played, that that particular game sets the tone for how people remember Sierra in it's entirety.
JazGalaxy I guess I was spoiled by the linear nature of Lucasarts games.
I could totally see that. I think that's just a matter of taste, though. I like the Lucas Arts games a ton, but as GAMES, I always thought they were vastly inferior to other adventure games. Sam and Max, which I love, had puzzles that were almost impossible to figure out. Replaying it, even knowing the answers, I sometimes have a hard time progressing just because they are so quirky (the ball of twine, specifically). Full Throttle is amazing, but the puzzles on that aren't even puzzles (click on the ramp to make the Cave Fish fall in the gully.).
Day Of The Tentacle is the only Lucas Arts game that I think is a really great adventure game.
Moldy cheese powering the machine reminds me of the end of Back to the Future when Doc powers the Delorean with garbage and banana peels. KQ5 is the only KQ game I never got to try out.