Hi Ken, What an excellent film of this fantastic cable operated street tramway set in such a beautiful part of North Wales. You have filmed some wonderful shots of the trams with the mountains in the background and then looking out to sea. I also really enjoyed your commentary. Thanks so much for producing these wonderful videos. We all really enjoy following your travels around the UK.
Wonderful video! Cable railways are very interesting things- I am very curious why the cars appear to have trolley poles fitted to their roofs, if the entire route is run by cable, and no overhead is present.
Very good coverage - even showing how the cable is attached. I hadn't heard of this tramway. I'm assuming no cars are allowed on the bottom of the street section!
6:45, just past the midway station, between the engine house but before the shed, there may be evidence of disused track. It is not visible here as it is long gone. You get a better view of its position at 14:37 where the current route curves right going down and the old track went straight ahead. However, in youtube video ruclips.net/video/qBuMW4JLGSc/видео.html from 1955, at 1:51, it is clearly visible and is overgrown. Logically it can't have been a siding as the both cars are permanently tied to one single cable and have to do things equidistantly and symmetrically. There are rails but no cable and no rollers. The cameraman is between it on his right and the track in use on the left and the tram passes on his left. Does anyone know what this was? I'm guessing they moved the station a few yards to one side, but why?
Darn it! I wish I had known that you and Penny were going to Portmaddog, I would have asked you to film the drivers side of a double fairlie so I could see the control setup.
This seems to differ from the cable hauled street railway in San Fransisco America in that over there, the cable always runs at a constant pace and the tram operator grips and releases the cable to control the car, so I don't believe they actually communicate with the winding house as they drive.
BEEN ON THIS SEVERAL TIMES.HOWEVER ALTHOUGH THESE MODERN SIGNALS ARE IN THESE TIMES I THINK IT IS A BIT SAD TO SEE THE OVERHEAD WIRES AND PANTOGRAPHS GO.
QUESTIONS: 1-when one car requests slow does the other car ascending/descending also go to slow? 2-how does the attendant select which cable to use since the car does not turn around. Is there a grip device that can be moved from one cable to the next? 3-Can the car be emergency stopped by removing the grip on the cable and with onboard brakes? 4-How is communication accomplished? Is it wireless or by a track cable transmitter? Thanks in advance to anyone who knows the answers. BTW-beautiful area and a peaceful ride. Wouldn't mind moving or visiting there.
Since my last question I've learned some of the answers. 1-communication is by a trackside wire which acts as an antenna for a short range radio and runs the length of the track. Many railroads use the same method. 2-the wheel is to tighten a grip on the moving tram cable or to loosen and allow the cable to slip through thus stopping the tram. The wheel is called a "Grip". I hope that this helps to answer your question.
@@GVMGVM-dl1iu The wheel is only a supplementary brake wheel, the trams cannot be disconnected from the cable, they communicate with the winding house by some form of radio, used to communicate with the trolley arms and overhead wires but technology has made these redundant.
Niels Petersen , I think the method of communication has changed over the years which could explain the overhead wires which are not used now, they may well still be useable on standby, I would recommend consulting their website, my commentary is based on a brochure I purchased during the day.
My grand father was from Wales. John Orme was his son. I am daughter of John. Live in Pennsylvania, USA
Hi Ken, What an excellent film of this fantastic cable operated street tramway set in such a beautiful part of North Wales. You have filmed some wonderful shots of the trams with the mountains in the background and then looking out to sea. I also really enjoyed your commentary. Thanks so much for producing these wonderful videos. We all really enjoy following your travels around the UK.
Great video! I like how you mixed in the trackside video clips when you passed that location on the video of the ride.
Beautiful trackside locations and great narration.
This a very well made video with inside and external views. Thankyou!
Loved it all Your stuff is great. Thanks❤️
Very nicely filmed and presented with some good cross-fading on an incredible climbing track.
Thanks for refreshing my fotographic memories with sound.
Hi like this système of train very good, I will cheked that more thank's friendly Jacques
Reminds me a lot like the tram we took part way up Mt Tibidabo in Barcelona but I love the great Orme tramway :)
wow! Very nice... thanks for sharing this amazing video :D added to my favorites and thumbed
I very much want to go to Llandudno. It looks lovely. Today I received a postcard from a friend who is there and she is having a great time.
Super video.
truly peaceful experience
Wonderful video! Cable railways are very interesting things- I am very curious why the cars appear to have trolley poles fitted to their roofs, if the entire route is run by cable, and no overhead is present.
Leverettrailfan , I believe they used to be used for communication at one time.
In this case it was communication, however overhead catenary is often used to power lighting in cable trams.
Thankyou great video
Thank-you!
Very good coverage - even showing how the cable is attached. I hadn't heard of this tramway. I'm assuming no cars are allowed on the bottom of the street section!
6:45, just past the midway station, between the engine house but before the shed, there may be evidence of disused track. It is not visible here as it is long gone. You get a better view of its position at 14:37 where the current route curves right going down and the old track went straight ahead. However, in youtube video
ruclips.net/video/qBuMW4JLGSc/видео.html
from 1955, at 1:51, it is clearly visible and is overgrown. Logically it can't have been a siding as the both cars are permanently tied to one single cable and have to do things equidistantly and symmetrically. There are rails but no cable and no rollers. The cameraman is between it on his right and the track in use on the left and the tram passes on his left.
Does anyone know what this was? I'm guessing they moved the station a few yards to one side, but why?
Interesting track on the lower half. Looks like the middle rail is shared by both directions.
Darn it! I wish I had known that you and Penny were going to Portmaddog, I would have asked you to film the drivers side of a double fairlie so I could see the control setup.
This seems to differ from the cable hauled street railway in San Fransisco America in that over there, the cable always runs at a constant pace and the tram operator grips and releases the cable to control the car, so I don't believe they actually communicate with the winding house as they drive.
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I went there. Soon I will be uploading a vlog of it!!! :)
BEEN ON THIS SEVERAL TIMES.HOWEVER ALTHOUGH THESE MODERN SIGNALS ARE IN THESE TIMES I THINK IT IS A BIT SAD TO SEE THE OVERHEAD WIRES AND PANTOGRAPHS GO.
what is the country? looks like a beautiful place!
North wales
thank you
QUESTIONS: 1-when one car requests slow does the other car ascending/descending also go to slow? 2-how does the attendant select which cable to use since the car does not turn around. Is there a grip device that can be moved from one cable to the next? 3-Can the car be emergency stopped by removing the grip on the cable and with onboard brakes? 4-How is communication accomplished? Is it wireless or by a track cable transmitter? Thanks in advance to anyone who knows the answers. BTW-beautiful area and a peaceful ride. Wouldn't mind moving or visiting there.
Since my last question I've learned some of the answers. 1-communication is by a trackside wire which acts as an antenna for a short range radio and runs the length of the track. Many railroads use the same method. 2-the wheel is to tighten a grip on the moving tram cable or to loosen and allow the cable to slip through thus stopping the tram. The wheel is called a "Grip". I hope that this helps to answer your question.
@@GVMGVM-dl1iu The wheel is only a supplementary brake wheel, the trams cannot be disconnected from the cable, they communicate with the winding house by some form of radio, used to communicate with the trolley arms and overhead wires but technology has made these redundant.
What purpose do the apparently redundant trolley poles serve? Looks like there's an electric wire strung on the blue lineside poles too?
Communications.
I totally agree! :)
I edited that bit out!
you always seem to be lucky with the weather then you go to wales
according to some alien believers, (not me) The Great Orme is the third best place in the UK to get abducted by aliens.
That's fine with me.
As long as they're welch.
I'm norwegian....... 😆
Oh oops, that would make me the alien ! 😲
This was recorded in what country?
Wales.
the car comming down does not pull the other one up
The weight of the car going down is used in pulling the other one up I gather
15.05 Orsaf Great Orme
0:6 dog breed???
Littlle Tram of San Francisco
erik meidoorn17 they say only San Francisco has Cable Cars like this. So what's this then scotch mist?
6.20 Orsaf Tram Hanner Ffordd
No power of it's own.? Then why does it have a trollypole, as can be clealy seen on the roof comming up the Hill.
Niels Petersen , communication line with control room.
pennysteam No trolly Wire, and the Poles was down, i also noticed between the wheells a thing that looks like a electro magnetic brake.
Niels Petersen , I think the method of communication has changed over the years which could explain the overhead wires which are not used now, they may well still be useable on standby, I would recommend consulting their website, my commentary is based on a brochure I purchased during the day.
that stick looks like an arm 00:05
Indonesian✋
ha first view
Somone trying to entertain Penny at 16:07?
hello, Penny. can I pet you...!