To those who are wondering, this is a black painted aluminum oil pan where the filter media can be replaced upon next oil change. Moving to an aluminum pan can help dissipate heat but also take certain impacts better than the composite plastic of the BMW one. The factory BMW pan does NOT have a replaceable filter. I went the cheaper route and bought a unpainted aluminum pan with replaceable filter, Uro brand from Rock Auto. Used ISTA to monitor oil temp and went through the procedure on fill. Also used Valvoline Multi-Vehicle Transmission fluid as the 8HP transmission is now under it’s approved list. If you have some extra coin but don’t want to pay a dealership, Bryan’s offerings are a solid +1. This pretty much covers virtually all ZF 8-speed transmissions possibly outside of a few used in trucks etc.
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Hey Bryan, you call this an "upgrade" but I didn't hear you mention whats the difference from the OEM part? This just seems like an oil-pan replacement guide. Still a solid video with great info!
on the original BMW pan, the filter is built into the pan. so you must buy an entire pan/filter assembly when it's time to change the trans fluid. it looks like on this new pan, the filter is a separate component. which would allow you to change the filter without having to buy a new pan as well. cheers.
Quick question as the instructions in ISTA are confusing: on the second fill, do you need to have the engine running while performing the filling or not? Thanks in advance!
You should start filling and then start the engine and do the second fill immediatley, M1 and M2 is sufficient enough when manually shift. I´ll alwas wait until it has reached 33c since the solenoid would have opened up and released the air. Otherwise good video
Brian, why do I have a feeling that the gear is skipping during hard acceleration between gear shifts? how do I fix that? BMW changed the transfer case oil and the transmission fluid, but it still does it once the engine is up to operating temp. Thanks.
Just aluminum vs plastic. The alum has better heat dissipation properties. The PPE model gets an extra qt of fluid but unless confirmed, it's tough to say if extra fluid in the same size pan has any positive benefits.
The pan, no. New fluid...maybe but more than likely you need a new filter,,fluid and a trans reflash to increase the internal pressure (also handles more torque that way)
Depends on if your transmission has been serviced properly and on time. Genrally it is not advisable to service a transimission at all with an oil-flush/change if you have driven it too much, but if you are still within, say, under 130.000km it should make it feel less sluggish.
By adding in fresh fluid and for the most part completing a transmission re-learn, there is potential that the overall performance and drive ability will improve. The first little drive will be rough as it has to determine optimal fill times of the multiple components, solenoids actuations etc. Soon after I would expect things to improve.
To those who are wondering, this is a black painted aluminum oil pan where the filter media can be replaced upon next oil change. Moving to an aluminum pan can help dissipate heat but also take certain impacts better than the composite plastic of the BMW one. The factory BMW pan does NOT have a replaceable filter. I went the cheaper route and bought a unpainted aluminum pan with replaceable filter, Uro brand from Rock Auto. Used ISTA to monitor oil temp and went through the procedure on fill. Also used Valvoline Multi-Vehicle Transmission fluid as the 8HP transmission is now under it’s approved list. If you have some extra coin but don’t want to pay a dealership, Bryan’s offerings are a solid +1. This pretty much covers virtually all ZF 8-speed transmissions possibly outside of a few used in trucks etc.
Bryan, I have a F30 and thanks to you I am able to do everything from a simple oil change to diff fluid to gearbox oil change, and the best part is that I have more peace of mind when I do it and not forgetting that I even know how to setup my headlights, which I show to different people, from guys that work at bmw to normal mechanics, love the channel 👍👏👏👏👏🤝
You might be a little low on fluid, I thought you're supposed to do the last fill till it drains out with the car on?
During the final fill, shouldn't the car be running?
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Hey Bryan, you call this an "upgrade" but I didn't hear you mention whats the difference from the OEM part? This just seems like an oil-pan replacement guide. Still a solid video with great info!
Can you let us know what has been upgraded compared to the BMW one? Thx.
It’s aluminum not plastic. More durable.
on the original BMW pan, the filter is built into the pan. so you must buy an entire pan/filter assembly when it's time to change the trans fluid. it looks like on this new pan, the filter is a separate component. which would allow you to change the filter without having to buy a new pan as well. cheers.
Quick question as the instructions in ISTA are confusing: on the second fill, do you need to have the engine running while performing the filling or not? Thanks in advance!
We didn’t and haven’t had any issues. May be different if you were replacing a cooler, etc, as more fluid could be out of the lines
Thank you for sharing
I must have missed it, but did you say why you would want to do this? What is wrong with the oem?
OEM is plastic. Upgraded is aluminum
what is this upgrade helping with?
It’s aluminum not plastic. More durable.
I’m wondering too. I’ve been having OE and they’ve been working fine
What about the rest of the old fluid
What exactly is the reason for this new trans oil pan? What benefits does it bring with it?
You should start filling and then start the engine and do the second fill immediatley, M1 and M2 is sufficient enough when manually shift. I´ll alwas wait until it has reached 33c since the solenoid would have opened up and released the air. Otherwise good video
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Brian, why do I have a feeling that the gear is skipping during hard acceleration between gear shifts? how do I fix that? BMW changed the transfer case oil and the transmission fluid, but it still does it once the engine is up to operating temp. Thanks.
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Will this kit work on a 2014 BMW E84 Xdrive28i with 8 speed automatic?
What makes this an upgrade? Does this have a higher capacity, better cooling potenital, or is it just made of aluminium instead of plastic?
Just aluminum vs plastic. The alum has better heat dissipation properties. The PPE model gets an extra qt of fluid but unless confirmed, it's tough to say if extra fluid in the same size pan has any positive benefits.
Did you guys put the gasket back on?
Hi Bryan....are you providing the filter for next oil change
It comes with a spare filter
Unless I missed it, still waiting for Brian to do an F80 DCT flush and filter DIY =D
It’s coming 😉
not for 320i?
Where to buy the filters after changing the pan ?
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would this make my trans less sluggish?
It definitely can. How many miles on there?
The pan, no. New fluid...maybe but more than likely you need a new filter,,fluid and a trans reflash to increase the internal pressure (also handles more torque that way)
Depends on if your transmission has been serviced properly and on time. Genrally it is not advisable to service a transimission at all with an oil-flush/change if you have driven it too much, but if you are still within, say, under 130.000km it should make it feel less sluggish.
Depends, if you have older oil in there (60k miles) it might, otherwise i doubt
By adding in fresh fluid and for the most part completing a transmission re-learn, there is potential that the overall performance and drive ability will improve. The first little drive will be rough as it has to determine optimal fill times of the multiple components, solenoids actuations etc. Soon after I would expect things to improve.
2011 535i F10 can use this? Also ZF8
Every how many miles is the transmission serviced?
80 - 100.000 km is recomment from Zahnrad-Friedrichshafen themself.
Should you change your transmission fluid on your 435i at 92,000 miles?
Hi Brian, my car has currently 40.000 miles…. Do i need to replace the oil/pan at 60.000 miles? Thanks!
Is it compatible with f22 platform ? Should be id assume
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What about 320d?
Does it work with X5 g05? Which is b58 as well
As long as it has the zf8, it should 👍🏼
where to get replacement filter for the pan ?
It comes with one in the kit 👍🏼
Would the m8 pan be better suited for a highly tuned 850?
Will this work for 420i as well
As long as it has the zf8, it will 👍🏼
Supra?
Yep, it fits!
Should work for my F15 X5 35i as it has the ZF 8 tranny
Yes, but probably more difficult to access to some of the oil pan bolts. At least on the X5 E70.
LM top tec 1800 is suitable for ZF8?
Yes I'm using 1800 on ZF8 it's great