THE Deepwoken Review: is it Worth it?
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- #roblox #deepwoken
Shitwoken finally comes to an unfortunate end, but the result is another in depth Eclipse game review. Give and take I suppose...
Deepwoken: www.roblox.com/games/41110235...
Discord Link: / discord
0:00 Intro
4:35 Atmosphere and Level Design
6:53 Combat and Sound Design
9:41 Death, Rebirth, and Variety
11:38 Roblox Jank
14:31 The New Player Experience
22:15 Final Score / Conclusion 
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![A Noobs Perspective in Roblox Deepwoken [PART 1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/10SeLDZ6wRE/mqdefault.jpg)
This review feels like a breath of fresh air, Deepwoken really has a LOT of content, that we old players often underestimate.
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Idk about that "a LOT of content" ...
@@gooberbunchofrandomnumbersit has a lot of content tho, all pvp are content (voidwalker, chime, battle royale), layer 2, bosses, enemies and the massive map (Etrean luminant, Eastern Luminant and Layer 1)
@@gooberbunchofrandomnumbers it really does have a lot of content. You can't even do everything in 1 life. That's also why permadeath is essential to deepwoken, so that you can try more stuff
Under appreciate
It happened. Eclipse played Deepwoken.
Dark times are ahead.
YESSSSSSS (:
one of the signs that the last days are near is when eclipse enjoys 3 games
5:55 "If you don't believe me, I'll play one of his tracks now" and a rocket league ad starts playing with some dumbass music
Bro got an ad at the worst time
rocket league > shitwoken anyday
i got a garfield ad :D
the fact that youtube tries to put ads into transitions makes for some of the goofiest things
YO THAT HAPPENED WITH A CLASH OF CLANS AD😭
I've been playing deepwoken for about a year and a half now, and I started deepwoken scratch. No idea what I was doing with a friend that also had no idea. It was surprising to me to find such a good game on roblox. I remember when I spawned in and heard the etris music playing, and had the little popup that deepwoken was going to be great. Me and my friend specifically chose not to consult the wiki for around the first 2 months of playing, and it was honestly amazing. It was so fun to explore the islands and as frustrating as it was to wipe, it was that mystery that made me love the game. I get why some people dont like deepwoken for its extreme learning curve, especially without outside help, but I did it, and it was really fun.
the learning isnt the issue, its the lack of learning and exploration that makes the game horrible along with the horrible traveling aspect and build vs build game rather than skill vs skill
@@luvhatemikey Can you see what’s wrong with the first bit? “The learning isn’t the issue, it’s the lack of learning”. That doesn’t make sense.
@@luvhatemikey learning to make good builds is a skill- many of the people i know that play the game don't follow build guides, they make their own because they know what talents work well with each other
learning the game is extremely simple, its a glorified bandit beater and almost everything is known immediately, rogue lineage learning took a few good weeks to months to actually learn. Barely anything to learn in deepwoken. i cant really explain it well @@Floppy233
@@luvhatemikeyu need skill to make builds in the first place
4.5k hours on deepwoken here, I totally agree that starting as a new player is horrible. I havent touched the game for a few months, and when hopping on recently theres been so much new things that I kinda got lost. Thats from someone who played before…Most youtube guides are outdated at this point too. However I love the game, it has so much content and such an amazing atmosphere. A big reason of this is weekly updates (which are good).
4.5k hours in 20 months thats average 9.4 days a month have u tried going outside?
@@haootic deepwoken has been out for 23 months actually. December 20th 2021
CAP 32 HOURS A WEEK GET THAT SHI OUTTA HERE
@@markslenderman. nuh uh 3 days take it or leave it
get better
I cannot put into words how much I'm glad that you finally reviewed DeepWoken and how much happier I am that you (kind of) liked it and gave it your fair and valid opinion
he doesnt like it tho, hes commending it for its creativity and design and that's fair but imo its not a good game and he would agree more with me then with you
@@antiwolfer8691 He gave it an 8/10 though, points deducted because of roblox jank, so he does like the combat and ambience as stated in the video...
@@antiwolfer8691 what are you talking about ? he litteraly said in the video "it puts a lot of 70 dollar triple A games to shame" and that he is "glad he has played it" lmao im pretty sure that means he thinks its a good game and that he liked it.
@@antiwolfer86918 out of 10 and he doesnt like it??? What drug does this chat
@@antiwolfer8691first he doesn’t know you 💀
Second what do you think is bad about it? And have you played it?
Honestly, even as a deepwoken veteran, this makes me think about the way I handle newer players..
I always tell them "Oh, it's better to learn on your own" but, seeing the view from a newer player, it makes sense why they ask for help..
Anyways, this is an amazing review! Keep it up my guy
I always forget how hard Deepwoken is I feel bad watching this video
The atmosphere is really great, immersive too. My fondest memory of the game and kind of in gaming in general is when I first discovered Greathive Aratel. I just vibed with the background music and overall look the place had. I even remembered glitching into the room where the record player was playing some unused song in the ost. Overall game cool
Me too, I loved that place when I saw it for the first time
The game is so mid just play anything else
@@black_storm-ln6ui average opinion hater
@@black_storm-ln6uilemme guess, blox fruit player?
It's nice to see the perspective of someone who recently got into the game and learn it whether it be via guides or help from friends rather than from a day 1 veteran perspective. That being said, would love to see eclipse play deepwoken more in the future and who knows, maybe document us some part of his journey to becoming another deepwoken sweat lel
The new player experience was miserable I admit, but what I love is the ability to customise and create so many unique builds. Same reason I loved YBA at first with the stand spec combinations (Until that got ruined). I play 160 ping normally which is playable but the ping spikes and shit servers are a pain in the ass .I would love to see deepwoken content alongside TCA.
I’m going to need you to hit me with a build because I always get to like power 16 and die because I never have a consistent build
@@infernosflame7099use a site called deepwoken builder, i always uee it when i made new builds, helps you plan out before you start
@@infernosflame7099 I recommend a pve build so you could learn the movesets of different mobs, which is usually ice and heavy
If u played on release new player experience was elite. Nobody was random ganking it was just everybody trying to to figure out some of the most simples stuff. In the beginning people didn’t even know how to level up for the first 20-30 minutes
ngl i figured out the game without using the wiki i just sailled and found islands then explored them if i found a mob i would kill it. if i didn't know how to kill it i would just fight it untill i could 100-0 it
I bought deep with a couple of friends on release, played it…we died a bunch and we just never talked much about it again, though recently I came back mostly solo and while I know lots of people play for pvp….I really do enjoy the pve, the leveling systems, cards etc. I also really enjoyed doing to1, learning all the monster patterns to the point of flawless was great. When the systems worked correctly deepwoken is a really nice game, though I can see why getting ganked while trying to just learn the game can put people off, sure did to me lol.
Glad you checked it out! Hope we get some gameplay videos or something from you in the future!
Beginning as new player in deepwoken, I agree it can be quite daunting. With majority of the comunity already developing a variety of PvP and PvE skills, along with knowledge of the game, it can be challenging to explore the game by yourself with minimal knowledge. However, when you begin to master the mechanics of the game and progress with friends, the game is absolutely amazing. There is room for both you playing solo, and also your 10 friends to fight along. The build-making is extremely fun, and the progression is satisfying for builds that are simple to create. The PvP and PvE is one the best out on the ROBLOX platform. Finally, when large areas of new content drop (e.g. layer 2), the game is sooooooo much fun to explore unknown secrets, areas, and much more. The exploration of large new areas and content is perhaps what makes the game highly enjoyable during large updates, and the PvP / PvE is also amazing. An amazing game.
Not if you get gripped by a voidwalker
Nice to see you review the game; I just assumed you were never going to. The new player experience has always been subpar at best. Monad's game before this, Rogue Lineage, was also notoriously vague and directionless for new players. The release of Deepwoken was a different experience, with thousands of players all searching every corner to find secrets. For the first few weeks it's always exciting to see new mechanics discovered,(see: resonance) but it just becomes a giant gate for new players after a while. Would be cool to see more Deepwoken videos though
He's the same guy who makes crap lineage??
@@dungeonlord2366peak lineage if they keep updating rogue it will be the best roblox game to ever exist
@@Minh2438 blame the community they quite litterally back doored the game and then threatened to leak the asset and then did leak the assets
@@uncleruckus6990 no copy can ever surpass rogue lineage at any state
@@Minh2438 yeah but the dev didnt think so they stopped working on the game
Eclipse. Out of the 2 3/4 years ive spent in your community, more than half of that time has been spent waiting for this video. Thank you. I'll eat my slop for all eternity now.
I personally like the fact that a lot of the games content is hidden in the corners in the map, however I do agree with you on the fact that needing to open the wiki to figure out where to go to get what is a bad part of the game, for the sole reason that it drains the feeling of immersion.
However instead of revealing the hidden factors of the game in a tutorial I think they should leave clues in the in-game books that can be found in libraries or bought on merchant ships. It would add to the immersion and lend newer players information about the world and it's mechanics if they take the time to look for it.
I've been playing this game for about a year and I agree with almost everything you said. Some long time ago after I got used to the game I recommended it to a friend of mine and he agreed to buy it. We played it for some time but it never really sticked to him for the same reasons you mentioned in the "new player experience" section and I can't and won't blame any one of you. The combat wasn't something he was used to and I believe me having to constantly babysit and backseat game him really put the nail in the coffin. Still playing now, even after learning what a majority of the talents do and what stat points they come from, I still find the need to play with the wiki open which is hardly ideal. There's one thing I partially disagree on and that's your take on locations hidden away like the Trial of One. Now, I fully understand and agree with the fact that everything else being gatekeeped by a wiki is not good. However, I can't help but reminiscence about when I was new to the game and, playing solo, I had to discover all the islands and secret locations for myself. It felt incredibly rewarding when I found where this "Trial of One" I heard so many great things about was. All things considered though, that's just me. I was always the explorer kind and I see how some people might find hidden places annoying. If you got this far into this comment then please at least try to play the game some more. I understand how infuriating some parts are ( especially voidwalkers, coming from one himself) but I promise you it's worth it. I honestly doubt people will intentionally come after you but who knows. Even the most controversial of streamers don't have that issue.
i think it's fine not fully disclosing what trail of one is, but i think there should be things really showing it's existance. sure you might just find it if you're lucky, but that probably will not really happen and i just think the trial of one is too big a feature to just not disclose at all
@@jeffboy4231 I absolutely agree with you. Imagine some sort of NPC standing near the Minityrsa shore mentioning it somewhat like how there's a NPC in the depths talking about the Ferryman. Of course, not as cryptic, since it's not about a legendary being
@@jeffboy4231I mean there is an npc talking about trial of one on minityrsa the one that gives you a free talent card and 2 burns and freezes
There should defnetly be more hinting of things like if you talk to a npc with enough charisma you csn get some extra info out them would make the game a whole lot more intresting
Congrats eclipse, you reviewed deepwoken, now the 11 year olds won’t complain
the deep was calling him 😔
Deepwoken is life
the deep came inside me 😭🙏🏼
Just say you can’t parry.
@@_dozer💀💀💀
After watching through all this, I think an important thing to note about the pve is you're going to have to go out of your way to be able to beat the monsters. You can't just expect that without training to fight the mobs at all that they won't just destroy you. I started when the game first dropped, and one of the most common things I noticed is that nobody in my entire friend group tried to go find mob spawns and actually practice against them
This vid really makes me wanna play the game again but then i keep remembering as the title screen launches why i quit the game, the flaws for me are just...insane
the most abhorent of winch is taking hours to study all the new content new mantras new talents, weapons seeing what items you have on your mule account, trying to make a build work soo in the end game you have stats all in one place here and there...too much
I must mention, the montage, voice quality and overall videos improved a lot! me and im sure many other poeple would be interested in this format of videos for games even outside roblox
as a deepwoken fiend, I (and other deepwoken fanatics) would of course, appreciate more deepwoken videos from you so we can see your journey through the game but we will also understand the fact that you don’t wanna be hunted down by players looking to mess up your experience. Much love, W video 🎉
who said we wouldn't hunt him down >:)
@@cartisnumberoneglazer🤓
Banger video and also they are making the experience more beginer friendly but them dropping the paywall is really unlikely.
Its great to see a review on the game, so much to experience i wish i was there to show you (all the npcs with voice acting are sick, especially for the first time), but none the less, i think you described the issues and good stuff with deepwoken perfectly (oh, btw ik its really easy to class all weapons under one of the three categories, but such as heavy has greatswords, hammers, axes, each with their own cards, benefits, and fighting styles, lots of weapon diversity, probabky even more then most other things in deepwoken)
23:54 Yep. I have around 750 hours on deep since I’ve been playing it from release and it’s something I’ve noticed throughout the patch logs. They’e been continuously making it easier to progress, but not exactly addressing the issues that actual new players face.
For example, a couple months ago, my friend finally decided to play deepwoken, so I wanted to try and help him through it. Beyond the tutorial that he played, I helped guide him to lower erisia in vc. After that, I wasn’t really sure how to help. Of course, I told him to kill the mudskippers as the first couple mobs of the game, but after that he really just ran around and fought bandits, which wasn’t really fun. It became a bit better when he got more mantras, but it was still kind of iffy. There wasn’t any real way for him to progress without being killed by something or someone and being discouraged from playing. Sure, I could help him by progressing with him or going on a max slot, but it kind of takes the supposed “hardcore” aspect away a bit. I’m not a game dev, nor a game designer, so I don’t know how they can improve on this.
Now the biggest positive for me is the pvp. I’m 1700 elo in chime, cause I’ve played a ton, but I recognize that I’m not the best player. The reason why I love the pvp so much is because of how you have to use your brain in most matches. You have to be good at the basic mechanics, but beyond that you can still improve by making smarter decisions. Things like recognizing patterns your opponents do, so you can mitigate it next time. I love that aspect of it, which is why I feel like Deepwoken’s pvp is one of the best if not the best of roblox. I’ve played a fair share of pvp games on roblox, aba anime showdown black magic 2, but Deepwoken is probably the best imo.
I went on a bit of a tangent, but TLDR, the devs are trying to improve the experience for new players, i like deepwoken’s pvp the best
The lack of direction I think is a good thing, it encourages exploration and of course you can just go on youtube if you wanted to and find a tutorial for things.
I understand and agree with you, but I will say it’s not impossible to learn alone. I bought the game and played completely solo, learning from tutorials and dying, a lot. After I learned Trial of One and kept playing, I just got better passively. I have some background in genuine parry based games, like MK and For Honor, but there was still a lot to learn and there still is. I love this game truly, and I love seeing myself get better and create new things. Overall, I’d say learning this game, even if I had to do it alone, was absolute worth it
@@spoon6804I don’t get how it’s so bad for new players when I started out deepwoken it was fun discovering new places monsters areas especially hive it didn’t take me too long to figure out how to escape the depths and I really don’t think it’s that hard to learn how to play
@@No-kw9wu It is difficult to comprehend as a beginner player, believe me, it took me two years to understand how things work in Deepwoken, the location, how you battle, and the locations, but believe me I have already defeated Layer 2 bosses and completed my Deepwoken goals. I'm not sure what to do, but believe me it a hard game and may take hours to understand.
Bro typed all of that just so he could flex his chime elo 😭
God Damn you finally did it.
I'm glad you made this review this game. Eclipse as I've been waiting quite a while for this.
Everything you said i already knew as a long time player of deepwoken, but you laid it all out in a very concise fair way. Props to you man
I remember playing with my friends during Deepwoken release, looking back it was horrendous for us anytime we do anything. One of our members got adjusted quicker and we were able to rely on him for a bit until we started to get the hang of the game which is when having fun in Deepwoken is truly peak. If you're a new player and you struggle with parry timings and fighting mobs, I suggest you spawn at Isle of Vigils and there's an instructor you can fight in the temple and if you reach 0% hp you automatically get back all if not most of your hp inside in the temple. Good luck to any new comers, it's a rough game for yall
I find the overall story just interesting than many other open world RPG games on roblox. The decisions you make throughout the game always affectsd you in your storyline, and I find it awesome. One of the main reasons why I play it.
Wdym? Been playing since release and I haven't seen hide nor hair of an actual overarching story. There's quests yeah, but your decisions also really don't affect those at all.
@@oeuftheoeuf they meant lore ngl
what story 💀
@@oeuftheoeuf There absolutely is lore
@@dankerbooper It's convoluted and often contradicts itself in the gameplay.
19:30 i agree so much with this, as someone who has played deepwoken since the very first day, the first weeks or so of the game were just astonishing, i would even consider deepwoken actually better than most triple A games back then cuz the sheer amount of content + the mystery factor actually felt like a souls game, and then after those weeks (specifically when youtubers discovered the luck system) it all went downhill bc then the community turned from explorers that helped eachother to toxic little kids who killed everyone in front of them. the magic disappeared.
I agree, its definitely better than most triple A games.
Too bad that's such a low bar to cross now.
@@theoreticalexistence9630 it is not a low bar to cross, maybe outside of roblox. Name 3 games outside of deepwoken ( on the roblox platform ) that can cross that bar, heck, i can't even name one.
If you played rogue lineage you knew that was fated to happen, rogue started exactly like deepwoken and no one knew anything and it was fun, until everyone learned about everything the game had to offer and the community became toxic
@@NeoIruy I really with the developers would stop trying to include PvP permadeath into their games since that makes them inevitably toxic hellscapes.
@@NeoIruy well yes its all fun and peace until someone learns u can get something out of killing other ppl (in rogue's case it was chaos and in deepwoken's case it was luck)
eclipse i used to watch you play yba when i started playing it and i quit yba when the map realised and i started playing deepwoken and now that i see you playing deepwoken made my day i hope i see more deepwoken on this channel
back when i first played deepwoken, they didnt even have a tutorial so when i booted up the game i watched a video on the basics of the game and it really helped a lot, especially cuz at the time i didnt know how leveling up even worked or how i obtained spells/moves
Fly high Eclipse, it has been a rough journey 🕊
19:43 I agree with this point. Months ago deepwoken was even less new player friendly. Recently they have been working on making it significantly more player friendly. They are starting to add features like this so it isn't finished yet.
You had it pretty good, when I started the quest literally bugged so it always said “set sail” I didn’t even know I needed to get to lower erisia
deepwoken is definitely a game that deserves to be paid imo, the amount of time they put into updating the game weekly with content and balance changes, patches and hotfixes they definitely deserve it, HOWEVER, i do agree with the price being abit steep for the new player experience (obviously alot cheaper than AAA $70 games as you said) but deepwoken is definitely one of the best games on the platform aside from a few issues
I think the paywall is necessary, it's the only thing keeping trolls and hackers from infesting the game, if I was a troll or hacker I wouldn't buy the game because eventually I'd get banned and then what? buy the game again? The beginner experience is something that's in need of improvement I agree
This is a very fair review. The new player experience is really bad, which I agree with as I also had to google basically everything just so I knew how to progress. Thank you for reviewing Deepwoken.
Edit: I love the Duke Erisia theme at the end.
It really isnt, all of you are just too used to being pampered in video games, while i do think there should be some sort of guide for people who want it, the game is literally way more fun when you have no clue whats going on.
@@keri7031 No bro, it isnt about being pampered, the game literally doesnt give you any hint on what to do and how to do
@@keri7031The exploration aspect of the game would be more fun if there wasn't a perma-death system that wipes you forcing you to start all over again. The only way I can see that play style working is if you're playing with someone who at least has SOME idea of what to do.
@kachowgang808yt4 The perma death aspect makes it special, you wouldnt be afraid of exploring if there was 0 risk involved.
@@keri7031 But the game isn't just about exploring it's also about progressing, and it's really hard to balance both of those experiences when a new player joins and they don't know what they're doing or where they're going and end up getting wiped in the depths and have to do it all over again. So I say you either need to be a really dedicated new player with guides/wiki, or the better option of having someone who at least knows something about the game to play with and get started.
Perfectly described the game in all its faults and merits. Love this video, subbed.
I have to honestly say that I liked the beginning the most because you had to figure everything out and everything was so difficult. It just felt good to gain more and better knowledge .
I have been waiting for this for soooooo long, god damn never thought he would actually play it
I would love you to create more videos on Deepwoken, I personally greatly enjoy the game (Even though I often have horrible ping) and believe that you could really enjoy making content on it too. I do highly suggest avoiding the meta builds and the chime arena though, those will rapidly drain your enjoyment and you will quickly become bored with those aspects of the game. Just do what you want and have fun, I'd love to see you mess around Fadetrimmer especially, very funny oath.
that would rely on people not ganking him everytime they see him in pubs
this is the reason why he didn't want to play it in the beginning lol
Stream sniping is a bitch.
I wont be missing a single part of this amazing video
As someone who picked up Deepwoken a few months after Verse 2's release I fully agree with the issues of new players being screwed if they don't have friends to help them. An even bigger issue of this flaw is even if you do have friends to carry you it could become an issue and you could become what is known as a 'permafreshie' aka someone who cannot play the game, no matter the circumstance, without being carried by someone. I was formerly one of these and had to beg a friend to help me with duke because I couldn't kill him but eventually I got better, I did the trial of one over and over until I finally beat it and ended up becoming good enough to solo Floor 1 of Layer 2 on any of my builds.
I feel like a better tutorial should be put in place, maybe make it so you fight sea monsters on the ship before it goes down so you're able to fight mudskippers and megalodaunts before actually starting the game and so your more prepared for the enemies that Lower Erisia presents you with.
to be honest I struggled a bunch with deepwoken on release, took me a whole weekend to learn how to level up and escape the depths, but now i’m pretty decent at the game and i’m finally working my way towards all the verse 2 stuff
i'm very glad to see that you actually enjoyed deepwoken somewhat. i can say its definitely one of my favorite games, the lore is great and the gameplay is fun (when it works as intended of course)
I never thought it would come
So did i, my friend
I am a day 1 player, before there was anything on the wiki, there wasn't a tutorial. But goofing around with other people just as clueless as you on day 1 was so magical. I remember when me and a bunch of other level 1's at lower erisia saw a sharko for the first time. We all huddled together and thought of a plan of attack. (which was charge it al together) it annihilated us all almost instantly. But it was so funny and scary. The thought of monsters and danger to a beginner are really fun. There was no origins back then except the first 2 default ones and it was a great time. I still have a character from the day of the games release that is 205 years old now.
when trial of one first was added i remember u had to complete it fully to get the origin, god it took me so long
Great video. By the way, about the server browser issue... it only came up in the recent month or 2 I believe (correct if I'm wrong). Specifically, some UK servers show up as "Texas, USA". Can't tell you why or how, but it happens.
Yup
yep texas servers are uk servers now and uk servers just dont exist now its just a roblox server issue they refuse to fix for some reason
That's....still fucking dogshit lmfao. Because said england servers cant be revealed due to them showing up on the texas only menu. They gotta fix that sooner than later
I agree with alot of your points, although I think the shadow npc wasn't the best example of deepwoken needing to tell new players more but the game really needs to tell new players how to get out of the depths. The main problem for new players is that deepwoken is best experienced going in blind and discovering things for yourself but playing completely blind is near impossible. It's one of my favourite games of all time but it took me 4 attempts to really get into it for that reason.
I know I’m super late to this video but I think because the developers have been working on a big update (the conquest update) they haven’t put much thought into making it easier to pickup by adding quest stuff. Thankfully they have started to work on it but it has a long way to go.
more deepwoken content from you would be genuine peak ngl
Great review! It is really rare to find someone genuinely critique the game nowdays instead of straight up calling it bad or calling it the best game ever.
From a perspective of a veteran with over 1k hours I think:
Atomsphere is absolutely my favorite part of the game. The music, lore, visuals. I personally also enjoyed digging the really hidden, (and not well explained) lore that is actually pretty interesting.
I agree that the current state of new player experience is horrible. When the game started. I absolutely loved the fact that nobody knew anything. People were screaming over a serpent spawn and finding hidden areas. Same thing happened during verse 2. Arch is right about it being a concept most games wouldn't have wanted. But that is the unique part of deepwoken that I personally really loved. Update logs are vague and it is mostly on the community to find out what's new.
However, as time goes on, and as the wiki fills up. It just became tedious for new players to try and understand anything by themselves. I remember having no clue how to get a new attunement and just constantly wiped with random attunements until I got what I wanted. As someone who tried to introduce many friends, (and carried them the way your friends did.) It is very tiring on the new player and veteran's side. The learning curve is already really bad since day 1. If you are a new player alone, there is a slim chance you will learn anything at all.
Verse 2 introduced so many build varieties, quests, locations, etc. There are so much more content thrown at your face right away and NOTHING is explained. It was great for people who already know what they are doing. But it only made entry even harder.
I also personally started really learn the game when Trial of one came out. I pretty much did the same as you, bought a new slot dying over and over until I learned how to fight each monster eventually. Back then you had to sail all the way to mini, run though the scout to get in to1 every time you wipe. Thank god they added a origin for that. Still doesn't excuse how hidden it is. It is such a useful tool for new players and should be introduced.
Don't even get me started on roblox jank. So many times me and my friends' games disconnects, crashes, freezes. Due to weird roblox bugs and we wipe due to them. Roblox also broke the server region display recently. It used to be fine. Now its full of "Texas", "Singapore" and "Hesse Germany" That are far from correct. I personally use bloxstrap to check the actual location of servers. Most "Texas" servers are actually UK and Asia servers and a lot of Germany servers are Virginia server. And Singapore servers can be anything at this point.
Things like input delay, ping spikes, fps issues (the type where you get 60 when looking north and 10 when looking south). Are just things you have to deal with sadly.
Who the hell has time to write all this
First I wanted to agree with you that the very beginning of the game, when you know nothing is a really hard (too hard) part of the game, and the player should have some guiding towards essential quests you need to understand the very basic of the game.
But in another way, I really loved the fact that we had to study a lot on the wiki to find all the secrets of monad studio's games. I admit it would be way better if we could learn more through the game itself.
But I must say, being not guided at all, even finding myself lost sometimes and having to discover EVERYTHING is probably the thing I liked the most about both deepwoken and rogue lineage.
Also you said how do I learn the pattern of monsters that kills me in 15 sec. It is another well thought part of the game in my opinion. You just DON'T learn when you know they will obviously kill you. You begin with the fear of these monsters and wait to get stronger, defeating weaker foes to power up and use the PVE scaling that will help you a lot against those monsters that used to make you run away.
When you die and start again, you will remember the patterns of these monsters and won't need the security of the PVE scaling to defeat them and it's definitly satisfying to me.
Now I may be blinded, because I know the amount of content the game offer is way way larger than when I started it and with all that content I can only guess that a player today will be even more lost than I was.
With all that said, I really enjoyed this video and I hope your point of view as a new player will be listened carefully !
If you have to "study" a wiki for a game its too complicated
i think the game is about exploring and figuring stuff by yourself, it's part of why i fell in love when it came out. Going to hive, ministria, songseeker, primadon, all that other stuff for the first time was so crazy.
Would like to see deepwoken streams, like your live proggresion or some fun builds u can try to make.
as someone who’s supported monad for 4-5 years now, one of deepwokens biggest strengths that you understandably didn’t cover, is their weekly updates. they’ve maintained this since release with very few breaks. of course, these updates ARE weekly so the content is often lackluster, but with a schedule like this, there can never be a TA4 infinite combo that goes untouched for more than a week. i can name at least 3 examples off the top of my head, where a goofy tech of someone flying around the map with a bug or a infinite ragdoll combo got posted to youtube and was immediately patched out the following monday. that’s the sort of developer-player trust WE NEED to see more of.
facts
i'd say have the weekly updates have even less content, probably at most balancing changes, but at the same time make a monthly (or however long) update that actually has some good amount of content
I kinda wish you reviewed the ancestor to Deepwoken (Rogue Lineage) but unfortunately its pretty much dead now, would be funny to see the things you'd bash it out for. When Deepwoken was coming out i was so hyped for playing it but starting off was IMPOSSIBLE for me, and i felt terrible for not being able to kill a few random bandits, and just dying over and over. I feel relieved to see that the starting out experience is terrible in general, but i honestly cannot bring myself to go back to this game just because of the sheer pain it was trying to get through these hours of just going anywhere to try to achieve anything and never doing true progress.
Ah yes, my first day in rogue
Getting gangbanged, kidnapped, drowned,burned then finally the sweet release of wipe
@@ajgamer1414the ferryman looking me in the eye as i tell him of the inhumane torture that i went through before wiping (the guy before me had it worse)
if he didnt like deepwoken's new player experience, rogue lineage's new player experience would be terrible for him
@@iamayumpigbut the satisfaction of becoming good at rogue lineage.. unparalleled
Bro when deepwoken came out i sat on isle of vigils till like lvl 5 training random stuff and killing the training npc over and over, fun times, i played deepwoken since release so i dont really remember what my starting experience was but i dont remember that it was bad
never thought I'd see you actually making a vid on the deep
For the quest way points they are working on them they just recently added to see if it’s going to work well. Since it’s a good thing probably most quests will have waypoints.
This is honestly making me want to play the game, as I hold Eclipse's opinion very high and I had been avoiding Deepwoken for very similar reasons he has. It's just very daunting getting into a game that is so expansive and has been out for so long- another reason why I've avoided it up until now.
You're video has shed some light on some of the game mechanics I wasn't sure about and given me the courage to at *least* buy the game. As always, I love your content, Eclipse, and I support you in anything and everything you do.
Another banger, as usual. Spitting more facts, as usual.
If you do end up playing, try to play with some friends, it makes the experience 10x more enjoyable.
No… don’t fall for it… this Deepwoken trap…. You will suffer a million times and days….. 😭😭😭😭😭
If you think 5 dollars is expensive you probably have bigger problems than playing Roblox
@@dankerbooper I said expansive not expensive
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The new player experience is rough but I think that it's part of the charm of the game. You are dropped into a world you have no knowledge of and have to rely on the knowledge of others to learn. Unfortunately there are a lot of toxic players so this system doesn't work to it's full potential but I think it's how the game was intended to be played.
About the quest logging part they are still working on that actually so that flaw is gonna get fixed eventually since it was only recently added in a new update
5:25 fun fact: i discovered that if you sneak behind some guards before leaving some buildings like the instructor thing in isle of vigils i think they may be talking to each other about work or smt like that
Hey! I also tried Deepwoken right around your time too! I documented my experience in a recent video of mine and I had a lot of difficulty getting the grasp of the game going in completely blind. I was essentially 1:1 to your early 1.5 hours of your experiences. I've really come to learn that this game's future is built upon the existing players that have already mastered this game. The UX for newcomers is honestly nonexistent and misleading, where it doesn't explain anything that should have been mentioned immediately. I would argue that even Dark Souls (and especially Elden Ring, as well as the other FromSoftware titles) provides actual information on what you need to do in order to actually play the game, and the rest is based on mastering the skills that you already know from said tutorial. I can see objectively that Deepwoken is a great game, an 8/10 rating is definitely deserving. But as a newcomer, I really feel that Shitwoken energy with just how the devs double down on the UX being clearly terrible.
I really enjoyed watching your video, it gave me insight of what was to come in Deepwoken. The world and music was 100% my favourite part of the game and I wish to get better at the combat to fully experience it. Great video.
I didn't expect to see you here
@@kanande Someone told me about this video, thought I would share my thoughts here too. To a fellow creator, conversation is lovely
@@AlphaWhoo That's fair, hope Deepwoken's been good to you btw (I enjoyed that video quite a bit)
The thing I love about the world of Deepwoken is that it got me hooked on the Lore.
One of the first things you are told about the world is Erisia, an island that came from the void sea out of nowhere and is filled with people trying to gain riches.
This connects you to many sections of the whole story already. One, you begin in the Etrean city (or vigil). You hear about this Void Sea, a mysterious section of the ocean that is brimming to the teeth with monsters. And Finally, this new island Erisia which is larger than the island you started on and even more mysterious. Abandoned structures of past civilizations, including a temple, a hidden village, etc. Which tells you the dire and dark state of the world you live in.
When you die, you are sent to the depths, where you see a MASSIVE sprawling city nearby. (if) When you reach it, you realize it's hollow. The once guards are zombies, the buildings are empty, and the majority of it is Patroled by these ominous lanky creatures with what looks like headlamps for heads. They jump all over the city across roofs peering down below and if they spot you, Angel (statues) will come for you. Reaching deep inside the center of the fortress city you lift yourself with an elevator, you inch closer and closer back to the surface to be stopped and trialed by what seems to be gods who are indifferent to your presence. If you succeed in winning you are sent back to the surface.
On further research, you learn the City itself used to be like Etrea where you started, a bustling city full of life and riches. But the people there used the song (magic) too much and the city was sunk by the "drowned gods". The remnants of this city are the Celtors, which are a playable race.
*However my favorite piece of lore* is the "Hive", a massive tree in the Aratel Sea that many players seek to call home. The tree was erected by the citizens living there to survive the next "Greta Drowning" which is foreseen to consume the current land we know. However, there was a price. In order to create this bustling and beautiful tree, the land nearby was Sucked of its life, leaving only a desert.
"wow. Thats a lot of words.
too bad I aint readin' em!"
wow that's a lot of words
im gonna read em
I’m sure you said some cool stuff, but even I am not reading all that……
Why did bro think we reading all that 😭💀
canors are more like the wolf themed race i think you mean celtors
tbh I barely got past erisia, and I HEAVILY enjoyed deepwoken, but I just never wanted to put in the time to push past the lower game, and spend time looking at the wiki and trying to figure out a build.
The newcomer experience when the game first came out was good because everyone was a newcomer finding all the hidden stuff and everyone figuring out the mysterys of this game was so much fun but now new people cant do that without being bombarded by people who have been playing everyday for almost 2 years thats why i think this game need dedicated servers for new players or vip server
Edit: while i was writing this i got to the part you talk about the secrets being good when the game first came out but decided to comment anyway because the server thing still applies, also with private servers ping is a lot more manageable
FINALLY THIS ONES SANITY HAS CRUMBLED also if you don't want people looking for you not sure the requirements but their are CC servers that youtubers get like i said not sure how but that is an option also if you play again not sure if you got to layer 2 but you should go to layer 2 without any knowledge
Thats a horrible idea he will get wiped by parasites in the first few minutes. And get lost in the snow for hours.
i almost got a stroke reading this
Expanding on the point about ping, there's another facet to that, Roblox does not have a server in every continent and that fucks up a LOT of players from big countries, so most people from Asia (afaik it's Asia or Australia, I forget at the moment) or South America have to try and play Deepwoken with at the VERY LEAST 180-200+ ping.
Again, it's not a Deepwoken problem, it's a Roblox one, but it MAJORLY affects it, you cannot do PvP or even the most basic of PvE effectively, parries become a matter of memorizing enemies' attacks before they even throw it because you're constantly having to guess what's gonna come out next.
If the experience is already bad with 100 ping, imagine having to play through the entire game with 200 and there's nothing you can do about it.
Yep, im from SA and i bought the game not knowing it was so heavily dependent on good ping and i just had to drop it cuz its literally unplayable. Now i guess i have to wait for roblox to release a server here and if it never happens then i just wasted money, it sucks
my friend and i never got past erisia because we didnt know what to do and we all died then left to never play again i tried the game out alone but since i got no friends who play deepwoken i dont got that carry that you got and decided to move on to other games since getting good will prob take months i hope they add things that make for a better experience for new players
that last part that was said "it's difficult to search on the internet" it reminded me of Undertale within the game files there was an audio that said that we wouldn't keep making guides explaining everything about the game on the internet we would have more content but as they didn't want to know and they published it In the same way, the file changed to a warning that there would be no content in Undertale
Ive been considering to donate real money into roblox for first time to try this game, and this video will certainly help me with this choice a lot
Its definitely the best game on roblox and hence the best way you could ever spend money on roblox. Its way better than buying some ass gamepass in a trash game.
IMO
@@ananaskarandash1060Nah man have you played decaying winter/guts and blackpowder? Those games are GOATED, and FREE.
@@ananaskarandash1060compared to games like pet sim 99 deepwoken is gta
if youre ever gonna spend a game on a roblox game its gotta be deepwoken
If your pc is good and your connection is good and you can sit through the agony that is learning the game, then yes it's a worthwhile buy. Otherwise, save yourself the pain
I USE TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THESE
IM SAYING
I read this as parry 😵💫
kinda suprised this video came out this late... good vid!
Yeah that server problem got messed up when they deleted like half the regions a few months ago but after it got fixed its always been like this lol my asian server is apparently oregon
As a person recently banned by the terrible mod team, I have to say I used to glaze the game too much. It is a really good game but it has many problems: terrible meta in pvp and lack of pve (end game pve is just farming depths, layer 2, bosses and helk modes. I might get it on an alt again when verse 3 realeses
blud got banned for exploiting 💀
Bro got banned for gripping Arch's boyfriend 💀
verse 3 is releasing in like 2025 we don’t even have void tower or conquest yet
maybe don't exploit, crazy right
Imagine getting banned and exploiting LLLLL. You really gotta stop exploiting and taking the easy way out of grinds (probably translates over irl), because exploits ruin the exploration, lore and PvP of the game. If you think the game has terrible meta in PvP, you probably join in on boring clone trooper builds. And deepwoken has the best PvE on roblox, no glaze.
Spot-on review, this is what discouraged me from playing Deepwoken when it first came out. No sense of what to do or where to go and overall a mess.
Yeah bro the game doesn’t hand hold you game sucks totally not you bro 👍
So you hate one of the main points of the game 🔥
So you hate one of the main points of the game 🔥
@@shoulda1724 problem is, neither does an actual rpg like Elden Ring. Yet they actually have a tutorial that is capable of teaching you how to play the fucking game. You don't have to be handheld to learn to play.
@@thegoldenraysoftheglorious1180 f to parry then you go to an island and kill enemy 👍
by the way, last week deepwoken added a feature called ping compensation that lets you parry in higher ranges of ping. i am not sure how it works, but it makes it so that your damage is delayed and you can parry it even when your ping is bad. you can enable or disable if you want (they also added optimizations for new players, such as a map and way more stuff)
I’ve played since release and have over 2k hours on the game and watching you attempt these mobs and struggle opens my eyes to how cool and epic deepwoken really is. I miss the old feel of deep
ye i've been watching this vid and saying noooo why you not tryna to click enforcer more or some stuff like that, it such a good feeling...
Ah yes, deepwoken. The game with such potential, lore and world building destroyed but the fucking rogue lineage community who had to be toxic and only kos everyone they saw
what are you on about
@worldsandnightmares its the opposite, the rogue community actually made the game challenging while all the gpo and blox fruits kids just moan any time they face anything slightly challenging.
@@keri7031 Theres nothing challenging about being constantly killed by people who have minmaxed shrine builds or way higher power/gear than you. Most of my friends cant even play the game because the community has ruined it that bad. Arch and rag gave up on rogue FOR this exact reason. The toxicity and constant ganking got to levels where they had no motivation anymore. Im a huge fan of pvp. Just not when its 24/7 and very one sided. Being able to just tp to someone and 1 shot combo them while they are mid fight as a voidwalker. Most people i see say the same things over and over again. "Skill issue" "Its a pvp game" but its not that simple. There's so much potential, a healthy mix of both pvp and pve. But the unhealthy playerbase full of teenagers cannot compute being a mature person in game. The game is gatekeeped heavily not by skill but but the players themself.
@TheMaskedNekoYT idk the rogue community had its ups and downs but i personally really enjoyed the experience, in no other game have i been so genuinely immersed and stressed, and unlike deepwoken the rogue community was also very social and it was really easy to meet new people in the game. I personally find most games boring since theres no risk involved, i also definitely prefer the rogue community to the deepwoken one, deepwoken has a huge amount of very young children and the community are mostly just annoying. That being said i do still agree with you that gaia dwelling and all those shenanigans definitely made the game more annoying but i loved the permadeath aspect combined with the incentive to kill other players, when you were in fair fights it really made the game much more challenging and fun. I just hate how deepwoken gives players 0 incentive to pvp and whenever players are given an incentive to pvp the roblox kids just moan and cry about how its unfair that they get killed in a pvp game even if it was a fair fight that they lost, and the permadeath in deepwoken is barely even a thing, its genuinely hard to wipe and even if you do well it just takes a couple hours to make a new build anyways
@@keri7031 You managed to socalize without a femboy godspell mage with a ilu alt getting you? You are lucky. But thats why i loved early rogue. People killed because they had too, or they saved because they had too. Sadly time takes what we dearly love
I love this game and I find it very fun, my only gripe is that I have a very below average reaction time + im very garbage so it’s very difficult to play.
Skill issue (unfortunately)
same (unfortunately)
Yeah there isn't much content in casual deep
@@chances3163tf u mean lmao, there is a LOT
for my experience, i learned how to fight megalodaunts before even finding out about trial of 1. and that is by going to the depths as a lvl 1 and fightint one until i'm good enough
about the server ping thing, for some reason some centre europe servers are tagged as "texas" for most games, it happens in yba as well as in tca and apparently deepwoken too, its a roblox issue
12:55 this is called a fake server and a lot of texas servers are now england, uk because of roblox themselves (not deepwokens fault, tons of games show "dallas, texas" and then give good EU ping)
*this can be resolved by pressing quick join (most of the time)*
Now I feel kinda bad for being a voidwalker 😵💫
Pve is borin. Game was worse a long time ago when luck was added. I think there should be more reasons to fight at a lower level honestly. So much content at low level pvp and pve but it’s not ever explored
YOU ARE! your progression is based on screwing up the other's... it's horrible
-Trial of one enjoyer
We are waiting more deepwoken videos eclipse
honestly, there are a few games where they just delete the default player charachter and completely replace it with parts but i guess its an input button thing no matter what u use as ur charachter?
Playing Deepwoken as a new player is like playing Suffering Simulator 💀
Deepwoken will be worth it only when the ignition union origin will be added
Omg you are on every deepwoken video?
Bro is not getting the origin
Even on this channel....
Bro........i dont think you should say that in his channel
So true
I’ve been playing this game for 7 months and I am still learning stuff like if you say mb all you go out of combat if you hit someone
Having a purchasable notebook/journal that logs what quests you have taken and:
the name of the person,
what the quest was,
And a general location of where they are located, (if you talked to Kenneth for example to get dukes key it would say: "Kenneth, ask around about the lord regent. *In Etris*"
That would not only help freshies a LOT.
But if you could buy a compass along with that notebook to see a general location of where the quest is (like a arrow pointing to it or a marker)
would help even more for quests in obscure locations for end game players as well
(Like where the obelisks in layer 2 floor 2 would be)
The compass is a bad idea at second thought, because devs wanna keep the world a mystery so finding that bit would be fun and rewarding the notebool is still a great idea and should be added to some degree
The notebook thing is actually pretty commonplace in the Elder Scrolls series, with games dating as far back as Daggerfall from 1993 having this feature so that you still had some focus while not requiring quest markers. Though they gave up on that by the time of Oblivion
Deepwoken is a pain in the ass
That said, I absolutely love this game.
It's OST, it's story (trust me, the lore of the canticlysm, the old world and the factjons is actually pretty damn good), it's combat (if I forget I have constantly over 150 ping)
deepwoken is a really good game that is heavily brought down by the fact that it’s made on roblox and the playerbase
Yeah most of my problems are with the ping and bugs stuff which is a roblox problem rather than a Deepwoken problem.
Great review!
yes, I would love to see more deepwoken content and I dont really think there really is people going to actively hunt you down on the game, except from voidwalkers.
as a person banned permanently due to widespread clan and moderation corruption, I can say that I enjoy every single time I've heard eclipse say "shitwoken"
Why would they let the horrible Rogue Lineage mods get mod in Deepwoken...why?!
SHITWOKEN!!!
@@ErasedFromExistence to make it a more understable process for you, I appealed 4 times and reported about 2 people for harrassement with screenshots of proof basically them telling me to kys and such throughout my play time, None of them got banned, and all of my appeals were rejected, the last appeal I made, I wrote a whole 3 page word document for, detailing everything and giving out all the statements, only to have some mod who's name starts of with a t read through the first 8 words of it and then just give up, reject the appeal, AND THEN REMOVE THE APPEAL FROM THE CHANNEL because simply the deepwoken mods might not know how to read
@@piteon3060just admit you used aztup in verse 1
couldn’t even edge to this, I exploded immediately!!! Clean up on aisle MY PANTS 😂😂😂
This video gave me an idea. This games oaths are based off a book series named The Stormlight Archive. (there is literally an oath named windrunner in both universes) My idea is to make a stormlight archive game, with two sides (the knights radiant and the listeners) that fight each other on a map (not sure how big it should be). The battles could be lore related (for example the skybreakers on the listeners side). The knights radiant team could go up oaths through battle or a chance to go up an oath when killing someone or something but if they die they restart from the first oath. You could also be a normal solider and maybe win your own shardblade and shardplate. when the fused die they die they have to wait for an everstorm to arrive (could be like every 5-10mins) to respawn. So basically every time you die you start again (apart from fused). Also different surges and fused types require exp (exp saves) to unlock better the better fused types or surges. (like bondsmith or pursuer). You could also find nightblood and decide which side you wanna be on or something. But I have no idea how to make a game so it's just an idea for now
new player experince was the best part for me, i loved playing for the first time with my friends