I'm not a CFMoto fanboy, but I am very impressed with their growth and their willingness to make bikes riders want and can afford. Do I want a Triumph? Or a Ducati? Hell yes! But I am quite happy riding my 700 CL-x right now.
Honestly yeah, red scare is one thing but valuable products are valuable, it's a good chance to disrupt the market saturated with old players that started to slack around.
@@DeepTalkPH Spartly island is being claimed by other nations aswell. Learn history so you can have better understanding on this issue. For one, if Ferdinand Marcos did not unjustly imprisoned Cloma and forcefully sold his rights for 1 pesos only! we would have larger ownership on the Spratly Islands. But wait did the mainstream media even said any of this historic details? FYI i dont want China's political ways
It’s only a matter of time they will lure you with cheap products if they can monopolise then they will increase prices or they will charge you more for parts and service with inferior quality every time. They have tried this in African markets but failed to compete once Indian companies entered those market in terms of quality, services and prices.
CHINA has its own NATIONALISED INDUSTRY and MAKES PARTS for MANY BRANDS. So it makes good sense to manufacture complete bikes. China is smart for working with KTM in MotoGP to get R&D Looking forward to the inline-triple 675 SR-R.👍
Hello from the US! I've been impressed with their recent motorcycle offerings, but I'm also impressed with their facilities. It seems like design is on the forefront of their mind in both respective aspects. Interesting and great video. Thank you!
One of the exciting brands right now! Not afraid to challenge the status quo and bring us functions and features not easily available (at the same price point) from the big 3
im almost 1 month in after buying 2023 cfmoto 450sr, i know it's a bit outdated compared to new 450 srs and upgraded 450sr but im happy with the purchase, got best offer and im gonna use till it break 🤣
Well the reliability might still be a secret- but one thing is for sure, the company has a damn good designing team. They are really churning out eye candies.
I hope that triple cylinder engine will be more attainable than other brands. Can't wait for all those bikes be available here in Ph. I hope the price is as aggressive as you'll expect from CF Moto.
i love CfMoto because they showed other "big" companies what they've forgotten. Being innovative and having fun. Yamaha and Honda have been milking customers for years with the same old technology and increasing prices. I hope i can sell my mt-25 and pay my debts so i can buy a mt450. Lovely bike! Thank you and thanks to CfMoto!
I hope they bring the 250ccs back to the Philippines. They already suffice on our roads here considering the longer mileage as well. Moreover, they should redesign the 150nk's engine which is low powered. If they can make it at least 15hps, it would definitely sell here.
I've been saving hard for what was originally going to be a Triumph Speed 400, but a few things have put me off that bike - most recently actually getting to see and sit on one. Now the CFMOTO 450 CL-C has caught my attention but as you pointed out in your review, the rear guard doesn't sit right. If they release the bobber version of the 450CL-C to the international market I will buy one almost immediately. Meanwhile I will keep saving and looking at what's on offer from others in the learner approved retro segment. If there was any hints about a release of the bobber later this year please cough three times and wink.
Their growth and innovation is really impressive. They're also entering the competitive stage which is impressive! Maybe someday they'd come to India :)
I so wanted to like my CFmoto 800 NK. AT 300-600 miles it started dying after taking off from a stop. The dealer changed the plugs but it didn’t help. I had to trade it in on a new Japanese bike. Maybe I will try again in a year or two.
I have seen CF Moto grow from just one or two models to quite a few in my country Australia, but was shocked to note that they have produced a 1250 vee twin, touring bike which I have never heard of. I recently watched a CF Moto Day event at a particular dealer, and while their many different models around the sizes from 450 to 800, there was no suggestion that a 1250 would be available in my country. More is the pity. I find this difficult to understand given there are only about 6 metric touring models in the Australian market one from each of the 4 Japanese and perhaps one or two from BMW (3 varieties 1600, 1200 and 1250 or 1300). But most other brands do not do a touring bike just sports tourers, not even triumph.
I really enjoyed the Cfmoto 450ss , but after I traded mine in for a Z900 I realized how clunky it felt to me. With time I’m sure they will figure it out. In comparison to a Ninja 400 Looks and sound on the Cfmoto are up there for me though in
engines and electronics are ok but their frame paint and welding quality have alot of room for improvement. my brand new clx250 was puking rust from allover the frame joints 2 days after its first rain.
The United States would really appreciate another small displacement I4. The ZX4R is priced out of reach for the majority of riders. For many people the Voom or ZX4R would be a second bike in the garage. Please bring the Voom the USA.
From BMW,yamaha to ducati, and honda collaborated with chinese brand since 1970, all famous brand collaborated with chinese technology to gain the first ever chinese tft display and other specs. without the chinese tech, all brand are still using poor lcd digital display. by the way honda collaborated with jialing which is called honda jialling to mass produce the supercub.
China produces products based on demands, if u want cheap ones they can make it and if u want good quality they can also give those, and cfmoto clearly making good ones at reasonable prices. People just keep on hating
Purchased bnew CLX700 Sports 2months ago, had a radiator leak upon purchased and busted tail light issue until now no response and concrete timeline for the replacement. I think before introducing new set of bikes, better to improve your after sales first. 🙈🤦🏻♂️
Where are you at? I've been riding one in the US for the past couple of years (5,000 miles) without those issues. I only have the infamous gear position indicator problem (it only affects the cruise control, so it's only annoying).
So far, it still looks pegged to be domestic only. But that could very well change, what with the growing popularity that CFMoto has gained worldwide. Short answer: Not saying no. Maybe. Stay tuned.
I think the greedy, lazy, and cheapskate legacy manufacturers deserved a serious challenger in the lower mid-segment. The move phasing in the triple and the small capacity inline-four has been a mastermind move. Let alone the 450MT. Hoever, please do not widen your product portfolio to broad, you need to focus on a few hot models and go more agressive.
I'll never dump my Harley for a CFmoto cruiser - but I did just take delivery of a 450MT - great ADV. BUT - if CFMoto want to succeed in the Philippines they need to open REAL CFMoto outlets all over the country. The mixed-multi dealers here are already hindering their success. They refuse to stock spare parts - even factory accessories are non-existent here (or they can't even bother to look up pricing). I have had to go 3rd party for EVERY new accessory - and I am deeply concerned about spares parts/warranty and service thru these "agent" dealers. Why ? Already my friend with a 650MT cannot get repair/service or even parts to fix himself from the local dealer. Is it because he bought from a different dealer (who no longer sells CFmoto) or what ? They simply say NO. CFMoto Philippines - your dealers need to provide a PROPER customer experience if you expect to have return customers in this country - or you need to open REAL CFMoto dealers here.
Hey I don’t like Chinese products but if they give us a quality product I honestly don’t care. Quality trumps everything which is why I like japanese products. Yes eurobikes are better in the short term but I am just riding and want reliability and safety not winning anything just life
federal support. Chinese Electronic dominance and Cheap labour. But yeah they are doing stuff that no other companies do, really wish they have more support, so far the 2nd market of AUS for cfmoto is pretty dead, make people think twice when purchasing them
the thing is it takes some time build trust in a new brand and it's worst of they Chinese products because of the peoples mentality and experiences with cheap Chinese products.
Sa design at features mas mganda tignan yung 675sr yung 500voom parang matanda na model ang mukha ang laki ng upuan sa likod tapos iba yung headlight pangit tignan di mabinta yan mas mabinta yung 675 sa design palang parang zx6r ng kwasaki
The secret to their rapid growth is that they throw a ton of features and gizmos at otherwise unremarkable and unreliable bikes. People love tech and a long list of options...evidently no one cares about reliability.
This assumption is flawed. Have you looked online to see people complaining about CFMoto's newer platforms? Nada. If there was, you would easily see it posted online, mostly via Reddit from the Asian and European and Australian markets.
@@shinababes deny it all you want. But compared to my friends who owns big 4 brands, heck ducati is a lot better in terms of reliability than cfmofo. You go buy one cfmoto bike. We all know the issue is not wifh the engine but everything else outside of it. My ex owned an nk400 and we got nothing but monthly visits to the shop because of busted forks, ignition coil, spedometer sensor cable, fuel pump, etc. all these at 9k km odo. So go love cfmoto. Maybe you'll be lucky to get the one that was made well.
I'm not a CFMoto fanboy, but I am very impressed with their growth and their willingness to make bikes riders want and can afford. Do I want a Triumph? Or a Ducati? Hell yes! But I am quite happy riding my 700 CL-x right now.
better
The 500SR is for sure going to be my next bike. Currently have a 450SR and I love it. Can't wait for it to come to europe!
People are trying so hard to hate chinese products bitter. We are lucky this products are cheaper
Honestly yeah, red scare is one thing but valuable products are valuable, it's a good chance to disrupt the market saturated with old players that started to slack around.
well since china is claiming our territory, I will go for a Japanese brand.
@@DeepTalkPH Spartly island is being claimed by other nations aswell. Learn history so you can have better understanding on this issue.
For one, if Ferdinand Marcos did not unjustly imprisoned Cloma and forcefully sold his rights for 1 pesos only! we would have larger ownership on the Spratly Islands.
But wait did the mainstream media even said any of this historic details?
FYI i dont want China's political ways
@@DeepTalkPHbye
It’s only a matter of time they will lure you with cheap products if they can monopolise then they will increase prices or they will charge you more for parts and service with inferior quality every time. They have tried this in African markets but failed to compete once Indian companies entered those market in terms of quality, services and prices.
CHINA has its own NATIONALISED INDUSTRY and MAKES PARTS for MANY BRANDS. So it makes good sense to manufacture complete bikes. China is smart for working with KTM in MotoGP to get R&D Looking forward to the inline-triple 675 SR-R.👍
u so lucky to be able to be there! Big cfmoto fan, riding my third cfmoto now ✌✌
Hello from the US!
I've been impressed with their recent motorcycle offerings, but I'm also impressed with their facilities. It seems like design is on the forefront of their mind in both respective aspects.
Interesting and great video. Thank you!
One of the exciting brands right now! Not afraid to challenge the status quo and bring us functions and features not easily available (at the same price point) from the big 3
im almost 1 month in after buying 2023 cfmoto 450sr, i know it's a bit outdated compared to new 450 srs and upgraded 450sr but im happy with the purchase, got best offer and im gonna use till it break 🤣
It is a great bike.
Well the reliability might still be a secret- but one thing is for sure, the company has a damn good designing team. They are really churning out eye candies.
500sr voom, im sold!
Can't wait for the 250CLC!!!
Nice, they got David Alonso to say the line!
500SR Voom is *chef's kiss*. Small displacement 4 cylinder with early 90s Gixxer 750/ZX7R headlights. That will be my next bike if it comes to the US
I hope that triple cylinder engine will be more attainable than other brands. Can't wait for all those bikes be available here in Ph. I hope the price is as aggressive as you'll expect from CF Moto.
i love CfMoto because they showed other "big" companies what they've forgotten. Being innovative and having fun. Yamaha and Honda have been milking customers for years with the same old technology and increasing prices. I hope i can sell my mt-25 and pay my debts so i can buy a mt450. Lovely bike! Thank you and thanks to CfMoto!
Waiting for 250SR-R😊
ganda po sir! sana irelease ng cfmoto din dito sa pinas :) hehe
Best value for money motorcycle...in Europe, they don't discriminate motorcycle make.
Present Sir Jinno 🙋
Did they happen to tease CLX 450? I was really into a neo-sport bike with that sweet sound
Well a good story, is to have a winning podium wins in the WSBK. That will definitely boost their brand further.
3:30 if I was there this would be my exact same reaction like a kid in a toy shop 😅
Need 1000cc for this brand
It’s coming give it a couple more years
They have 1600cc @@Trey_Johnson11
Are they releasing clc 250 in the PH? When and SRP?
aah shi the Voom 500
I hope they bring the 250ccs back to the Philippines. They already suffice on our roads here considering the longer mileage as well. Moreover, they should redesign the 150nk's engine which is low powered. If they can make it at least 15hps, it would definitely sell here.
I thought the 500 VOOM was only for the domestic market???
Has been announced in other markets like México, I can only hope it comes to the US.
CF Moto Mexico was built to support the North American market and CF Moto Mexico has been running ads for bikes.
I've been saving hard for what was originally going to be a Triumph Speed 400, but a few things have put me off that bike - most recently actually getting to see and sit on one. Now the CFMOTO 450 CL-C has caught my attention but as you pointed out in your review, the rear guard doesn't sit right. If they release the bobber version of the 450CL-C to the international market I will buy one almost immediately. Meanwhile I will keep saving and looking at what's on offer from others in the learner approved retro segment. If there was any hints about a release of the bobber later this year please cough three times and wink.
Please review the Hero Xpulse 200 4v ,thanks.
Their growth and innovation is really impressive. They're also entering the competitive stage which is impressive! Maybe someday they'd come to India :)
Im tempted to buy a 500sr voom should they come to the US
I so wanted to like my CFmoto 800 NK. AT 300-600 miles it started dying after taking off from a stop. The dealer changed the plugs but it didn’t help. I had to trade it in on a new Japanese bike. Maybe I will try again in a year or two.
Was the warranty process going to take too long?
@@Wasatchwatts the dealer changed the plugs under warranty but it didn’t fix the problem
Doesn't sound like a plug issue but a sensor issue.
I would looked for loose connections starting at exhaust, then ECU, ignition, rectifier, then checked fuses, and fuel lines.
@@JessicaSimonson1976 I dumped it & bought Suzuki 8s. But thanks.no way it was fuel. Felt like someone pressed the kill switch.
CF Moto has impressed me with my 450SS
bruh this was awesome im proud of my 450cc
I have seen CF Moto grow from just one or two models to quite a few in my country Australia, but was shocked to note that they have produced a 1250 vee twin, touring bike which I have never heard of. I recently watched a CF Moto Day event at a particular dealer, and while their many different models around the sizes from 450 to 800, there was no suggestion that a 1250 would be available in my country. More is the pity. I find this difficult to understand given there are only about 6 metric touring models in the Australian market one from each of the 4 Japanese and perhaps one or two from BMW (3 varieties 1600, 1200 and 1250 or 1300). But most other brands do not do a touring bike just sports tourers, not even triumph.
Uy ung 150sc ang ganda shet sana i release yan dito
May na interview kang obispo paps!
I really enjoyed the Cfmoto 450ss , but after I traded mine in for a Z900 I realized how clunky it felt to me. With time I’m sure they will figure it out. In comparison to a Ninja 400 Looks and sound on the Cfmoto are up there for me though in
Any info for next cf moto 250SR-R 2 cylinder???
Please bring all model to India soon with a very best technical service engineers for better service back pack power and we indians will love to buy
SHESH 2nd! always producing well made video!
engines and electronics are ok but their frame paint and welding quality have alot of room for improvement. my brand new clx250 was puking rust from allover the frame joints 2 days after its first rain.
I have a 450SS that I ride in Wisconsin winters, and damp conditions all the time. That has yet to be an issue on my bike.
@@JessicaSimonson1976 maybe it is on 250 series, im not sure, also speaking from experience
@@tsugha The 250 series is really not that good
Dude what? I'm a manufacturing engineer and the welds on my 450NK are fucking incredible.
Sir hope xpulse 200 nxt review nyo.🙂
i just got the 250sr first time trying chinese bikes if it does well my next one will be the 450
Most of the iphones are made in China btw
FIRST RAAAAAHHHH 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
what is the connection witk ktm??
clc 250 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Ngipin sa ngipin,
Pangil sa pangil,
Kalbo sa kalbo
bro akala ko ba secret room bakit mo naman sinabi yung nakita mo sa secret room HAHAHA
The United States would really appreciate another small displacement I4. The ZX4R is priced out of reach for the majority of riders. For many people the Voom or ZX4R would be a second bike in the garage. Please bring the Voom the USA.
They care about what they do, and have more stock in Yamaha than the brand themselves. Everyone is getting lazy but CF Moto is making moves.
From BMW,yamaha to ducati, and honda collaborated with chinese brand since 1970, all famous brand collaborated with chinese technology to gain the first ever chinese tft display and other specs. without the chinese tech, all brand are still using poor lcd digital display. by the way honda collaborated with jialing which is called honda jialling to mass produce the supercub.
China produces products based on demands, if u want cheap ones they can make it and if u want good quality they can also give those, and cfmoto clearly making good ones at reasonable prices. People just keep on hating
Purchased bnew CLX700 Sports 2months ago, had a radiator leak upon purchased and busted tail light issue until now no response and concrete timeline for the replacement. I think before introducing new set of bikes, better to improve your after sales first. 🙈🤦🏻♂️
Having same issue with my chinese scoot.. no parts for replacement.. its cheap, but it has lots of issues after purchase
Where are you at? I've been riding one in the US for the past couple of years (5,000 miles) without those issues. I only have the infamous gear position indicator problem (it only affects the cruise control, so it's only annoying).
Is 500sr voom coming to the Philippines then?
So far, it still looks pegged to be domestic only. But that could very well change, what with the growing popularity that CFMoto has gained worldwide.
Short answer: Not saying no. Maybe. Stay tuned.
*secret?* they *listen* and *give us what everyone else DON'T give us*
those scooter was look like Honda PCX160 on Indonesian market
Did not see the 675
Dream bike 😢
I think the greedy, lazy, and cheapskate legacy manufacturers deserved a serious challenger in the lower mid-segment. The move phasing in the triple and the small capacity inline-four has been a mastermind move. Let alone the 450MT. Hoever, please do not widen your product portfolio to broad, you need to focus on a few hot models and go more agressive.
MAKINA
I'll never dump my Harley for a CFmoto cruiser - but I did just take delivery of a 450MT - great ADV. BUT - if CFMoto want to succeed in the Philippines they need to open REAL CFMoto outlets all over the country. The mixed-multi dealers here are already hindering their success. They refuse to stock spare parts - even factory accessories are non-existent here (or they can't even bother to look up pricing). I have had to go 3rd party for EVERY new accessory - and I am deeply concerned about spares parts/warranty and service thru these "agent" dealers. Why ? Already my friend with a 650MT cannot get repair/service or even parts to fix himself from the local dealer. Is it because he bought from a different dealer (who no longer sells CFmoto) or what ? They simply say NO. CFMoto Philippines - your dealers need to provide a PROPER customer experience if you expect to have return customers in this country - or you need to open REAL CFMoto dealers here.
Issue is if you go to a independant garage they wont have the parts for it unlike yamaha, honda.
Yes, this brand is too young, give it a few more years
Riding in the wet without gear… genius
CFMoto will buy out KTM soon enough 😂 Just like what Chinese car brands did to European car brands.
Hey I don’t like Chinese products but if they give us a quality product I honestly don’t care. Quality trumps everything which is why I like japanese products. Yes eurobikes are better in the short term but I am just riding and want reliability and safety not winning anything just life
欧洲的小问题太多了配件又贵
CF has already ruined KTM’s reputation with those failing parallel twins ,
quite a feat , but what the hell just kick,on with it.
Meh. I’ll stick with Japanese & American.
Ang gaganda ng itsura ng motor ng cfmoto halos di na kailangan i upgrade. Nakakatakot lang since chinese brand.
federal support. Chinese Electronic dominance and Cheap labour. But yeah they are doing stuff that no other companies do, really wish they have more support, so far the 2nd market of AUS for cfmoto is pretty dead, make people think twice when purchasing them
Gt400 owner traded from my duke390 and regreted it so far. Over hyped and quality is still not good.
Like the 500 but voom? Sounds like a five year old came up with that name, that’s a fail
the thing is it takes some time build trust in a new brand and it's worst of they Chinese products because of the peoples mentality and experiences with cheap Chinese products.
china made😮
Sa design at features mas mganda tignan yung 675sr yung 500voom parang matanda na model ang mukha ang laki ng upuan sa likod tapos iba yung headlight pangit tignan di mabinta yan mas mabinta yung 675 sa design palang parang zx6r ng kwasaki
I can only say that the marketing is very strong in CF moto ... but the only thing i see is cheep copy of Japanese bikes !
Stop promoting chinese made products. For the simple fact of what they are doing to us
good bike, horrible after sales
What do you mean ?
I have been able to get parts and upgrades quite easily in the US.
I rally like the 500sr but that name is awful, voom, really?
The secret to their rapid growth is that they throw a ton of features and gizmos at otherwise unremarkable and unreliable bikes. People love tech and a long list of options...evidently no one cares about reliability.
This assumption is flawed. Have you looked online to see people complaining about CFMoto's newer platforms? Nada. If there was, you would easily see it posted online, mostly via Reddit from the Asian and European and Australian markets.
@@shinababesYou sure? Hahahaha not everyone cries online. I know a lot of people who gave up their cfmoto bikes and not posting online. Lol
@@netxzero3993 "you know" how many people do you know then? Must be a lot of CFMoto owners huh?
@@shinababes deny it all you want. But compared to my friends who owns big 4 brands, heck ducati is a lot better in terms of reliability than cfmofo. You go buy one cfmoto bike. We all know the issue is not wifh the engine but everything else outside of it. My ex owned an nk400 and we got nothing but monthly visits to the shop because of busted forks, ignition coil, spedometer sensor cable, fuel pump, etc. all these at 9k km odo. So go love cfmoto. Maybe you'll be lucky to get the one that was made well.
@@netxzero3993 well, you only know one. Your ex. Where are all of these other people not going online that you know of 🤣