As a T7 rider, I had the opportunity to ride this bike recently. The owner is tall, he is having trouble getting his accessories that he’s already paid for so be aware of this. I know it’s early days but tall riders need their tall seats guys. But, I did enjoy riding this bike. It has a very clear place in the market. Interested in seeing how reliability and dealer support stacks up now that so many people are buying these. If Yamaha and Honda answer this challenge, in the 500cc 175kg segment, we are going to be living in exciting times indeed.
Put the tall seat on mine and bar riders. I’m 6”2 and was hunched over when standing which made it a little uncomfortable and unstable. Since doing the risers it’s 100 percent better.
"500cc 175kg segment, we are going to be living in exciting times indeed". Alas I'm not so sure as the big ones have this segment filled by some "adventure" bikes with 150 mm suspensions with 19-17 aluminium cast wheels at already 7200-7500€ in France. For Honda to add spoke wheels, decent 200 mm suspensions and a protection for its poor engine exposed to all the misfortunes, is to add at least 1200€ to an already expensive naked bike at 7500. The 300 CRFL is at 6300€, the 300 Rally is at 7000€ while being made in China assembled in Vietnam. Honda won't make a bike which will be in competition with the 750 Transalp with less money to make. But they have the name so they do not give a shit, and personally I'm happy of that as the new brands will create bikes fulfilling the screaming requisites of the customers. It's the same for all the big brands, even for the 390 KTM made in India by Bajaj which already owns 49% of KTM, and it seems they are buying Ducati from Audi. The 400 Triumph made also in India by Bajaj again, is at more decent price than the KTM but it's a roadster disguised in adventure. All these bikes remind me these girls who are not truly girls. The new true small true adventure bikes will come from the Chinese and the Indian if they feel able to enter in competition with the 450 MT. That's a hard task as the CF Engineers have done a very good job.
Racked up nearly 1500k on mine so far. It’s just a great bike and awesome off road👍🏽 Still waiting on accessories, meant to be landing in Melbourne this month.🙏🏼
I'm really enjoying mine. Unfortunately, front ABS stays on in Off-road mode which I can see this being a potential issue in very steep gnarly downhills - although I haven't yet tried because I am waiting for the crash bars to arrive before taking it on more technical terrain. Yeah, it's got a nice exhaust note, only reason you would swap out the stock exhaust is to reduce weight. The 15T (+1) front sprocket will bring you to 110kph at 6K revs whereas you're at 100kph with the stock 14T. It also makes for smooth low speed maneuvering and less twitchy on the throttle - it's the way to go IMO.
A great review I have seen a lot on this bike ,I think the price point here in OZ this will sell as the best bang for buck adventure bike .No pay for extra KTM style and even with it's quirks it seems to me to be the best out there for the amount of riding most will do.
Thanks for a great video. Did you find any loose bolts anywhere on the bike after the 1000km off roads? What about fuel economy? Me and my son are going Perth to Darwin next month on these bikes.
Tough Question, I didn’t do 1000k loop on the Himalayan. But I have asked permission. They are both good. Would come down to personal Test Ride. See how it feels.
I've a crf250rally, which is great once a few mods are done. As I do trail ride solo I was interested to see your pick up, which looked straight forward for a bike of that weight. I'm 5'9" so not particularly tall, how does that compare to you? I'm wondering if taller riders would have a leverage advantage for picking it up?
Sorry, I asked that question too early😂 I’m 6ft so I suspect the lower seat would be ok. I sit a lot anyway, but it’s good to know they make a taller seat if required. Cheers for the review 👍😎
I am consdiering moving from a Himalayan 411 to a 450MT and one of the positives for doing so is because of the tubeless tyres . Can i ask why you carry a spare tube when the tyres are tubeless ?
I have seen Tubeless Tyres not repair from the plugs because the hole was too big. A tube will get you out of trouble till you get to the next town with tyres.
I have read some riders carry heavy duty zip ties...get some air in if you can and motor on for a bit. Tubes take up a lot of space and weigh a lot...But I can see how that exposed rim edge could be damaged...
Thats not off road thats just dirt road and from footage smoother than most of the tar roads around here. Id like to see you take it on some proper off road and pick it up on some snotty hill off camber. Maybe next time.
Adventure Riding means different things to different people, I have done a lot of hard stuff, still do some times, not as much these days. I like relaxing easy dirt roads out in the country now days, i I guess alot of others do too.
If you are riding snotty off camber terrain with this you are on the wrong bike. This bike is going to have massive appeal to the older dirt road touring brigade who are inexperienced or done all the tough stuff before.
As a T7 rider, I had the opportunity to ride this bike recently. The owner is tall, he is having trouble getting his accessories that he’s already paid for so be aware of this. I know it’s early days but tall riders need their tall seats guys. But, I did enjoy riding this bike. It has a very clear place in the market. Interested in seeing how reliability and dealer support stacks up now that so many people are buying these. If Yamaha and Honda answer this challenge, in the 500cc 175kg segment, we are going to be living in exciting times indeed.
myself a T7 owner. I'm making the change.
It isn't 175 kg, that is dry weight. Ready to run it is 193-195kg
Put the tall seat on mine and bar riders. I’m 6”2 and was hunched over when standing which made it a little uncomfortable and unstable. Since doing the risers it’s 100 percent better.
It’s the price that is so impressive. I hope the other Manufacturers lift their game and start producing decent bikes at decent prices.
"500cc 175kg segment, we are going to be living in exciting times indeed". Alas I'm not so sure as the big ones have this segment filled by some "adventure" bikes with 150 mm suspensions with 19-17 aluminium cast wheels at already 7200-7500€ in France.
For Honda to add spoke wheels, decent 200 mm suspensions and a protection for its poor engine exposed to all the misfortunes, is to add at least 1200€ to an already expensive naked bike at 7500. The 300 CRFL is at 6300€, the 300 Rally is at 7000€ while being made in China assembled in Vietnam. Honda won't make a bike which will be in competition with the 750 Transalp with less money to make.
But they have the name so they do not give a shit, and personally I'm happy of that as the new brands will create bikes fulfilling the screaming requisites of the customers.
It's the same for all the big brands, even for the 390 KTM made in India by Bajaj which already owns 49% of KTM, and it seems they are buying Ducati from Audi. The 400 Triumph made also in India by Bajaj again, is at more decent price than the KTM but it's a roadster disguised in adventure. All these bikes remind me these girls who are not truly girls.
The new true small true adventure bikes will come from the Chinese and the Indian if they feel able to enter in competition with the 450 MT. That's a hard task as the CF Engineers have done a very good job.
CFMoto is going to brain the market with this bike. Nothing but complimentary reviews so far and the Japanese makers are asleep at the wheel.
Racked up nearly 1500k on mine so far. It’s just a great bike and awesome off road👍🏽 Still waiting on accessories, meant to be landing in Melbourne this month.🙏🏼
Super review AAR, covering a lot of information in detail...
I'm really enjoying mine. Unfortunately, front ABS stays on in Off-road mode which I can see this being a potential issue in very steep gnarly downhills - although I haven't yet tried because I am waiting for the crash bars to arrive before taking it on more technical terrain. Yeah, it's got a nice exhaust note, only reason you would swap out the stock exhaust is to reduce weight. The 15T (+1) front sprocket will bring you to 110kph at 6K revs whereas you're at 100kph with the stock 14T. It also makes for smooth low speed maneuvering and less twitchy on the throttle - it's the way to go IMO.
Thanks for the info on the sprocket
I keep reading from current riders stay with the 14/go with the 15! I have the 15T in hand but not the bike!
I'm loving mine !!
About to settle for one, feels like right move?
Got one, and I love it!
A great review I have seen a lot on this bike ,I think the price point here in OZ this will sell as the best bang for buck adventure bike .No pay for extra KTM style and even with it's quirks it seems to me to be the best out there for the amount of riding most will do.
Un piñón de 15 o 16 y una reprogramación, mi like desde España 🇪🇦🇪🇦
Does anyone know if this 450mt engine is totally new or used in some other bikes?? References for reliability?
If the next model comes with quick shifter I am getting one
the one from the 450NK fits, and works.
Thanks for a great video.
Did you find any loose bolts anywhere on the bike after the 1000km off roads?
What about fuel economy?
Me and my son are going Perth to Darwin next month on these bikes.
Nothing shook off. 4.5l per 100 sounds like a top trip👍🏼
This or the Himalayan 450?
What would you choose..
Tough Question, I didn’t do 1000k loop on the Himalayan. But I have asked permission. They are both good. Would come down to personal Test Ride. See how it feels.
There is no choice so I bought both!
@@mickofmick Im thinking the same.
wet weight is 195.5kg
I've a crf250rally, which is great once a few mods are done. As I do trail ride solo I was interested to see your pick up, which looked straight forward for a bike of that weight. I'm 5'9" so not particularly tall, how does that compare to you? I'm wondering if taller riders would have a leverage advantage for picking it up?
I find my mates lower centre of gravity can pick things up easier, the way the weight is low, its not top heavy. I ride solo alot too.
It’ll be on the list if I buy a new bike for sure.
For reference, how tall are you please?
Sorry, I asked that question too early😂
I’m 6ft so I suspect the lower seat would be ok.
I sit a lot anyway, but it’s good to know they make a taller seat if required.
Cheers for the review 👍😎
I am consdiering moving from a Himalayan 411 to a 450MT and one of the positives for doing so is because of the tubeless tyres . Can i ask why you carry a spare tube when the tyres are tubeless ?
If you dent the rim a tubeless won’t hold air pressure. Also if you get a tear in the side wall you’ll need a tube.
I have seen Tubeless Tyres not repair from the plugs because the hole was too big. A tube will get you out of trouble till you get to the next town with tyres.
And yes, agree. Or you need a rubber mallet with you
I have read some riders carry heavy duty zip ties...get some air in if you can and motor on for a bit. Tubes take up a lot of space and weigh a lot...But I can see how that exposed rim edge could be damaged...
Thats not off road thats just dirt road and from footage smoother than most of the tar roads around here. Id like to see you take it on some proper off road and pick it up on some snotty hill off camber. Maybe next time.
Adventure Riding means different things to different people, I have done a lot of hard stuff, still do some times, not as much these days. I like relaxing easy dirt roads out in the country now days, i I guess alot of others do too.
If you are riding snotty off camber terrain with this you are on the wrong bike. This bike is going to have massive appeal to the older dirt road touring brigade who are inexperienced or done all the tough stuff before.
@@MrEtnorb My DRZ is for the hard stuff.
@@MrEtnorb Yes, it is not an Enduro....unless you are an expert rider which most of us are ....not.
USB and USC xD