EMD 710 Cold Start

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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Комментарии • 101

  • @brianburns7211
    @brianburns7211 2 года назад +14

    I run lots of EMD diesels as a class one locomotive engineer. When I started 25 years ago many old 567 powered locomotives were still running. What amazes me is that the 710 and all of its DDEC electronics are all modern age. At the same time it runs a diesel which is an evolution of what was initially designed in the 1930s. A guy who worked in Boston and Maine’s Billerica Shop in 1943 could get the DeLorean up to 88 mph and land in 2022. He’d probably be able to grab some wrenches and get to work on the 710.

    • @spudwickthrockmorton2112
      @spudwickthrockmorton2112 27 дней назад

      I just started my career working on EMD’s, haven’t seen any 567’s yet but it’s crazy how many 645’s come in from as far back as the late 1960’s. Some of em still have the original asbestos gaskets on the front and rear housings

  • @johnwright291
    @johnwright291 2 года назад +15

    I used to own a V12 567 that was in a 90 foot tug. The easiest engine I've ever worked on. A big tinker toy.

  • @Trains-With-Shane
    @Trains-With-Shane 3 года назад +12

    Very cool. I have always loved the sound of the old EMD 2-stroke engines. I got to put my hands on one in a GP38AC locomotive at a museum last week. Unfortunately most of the electrics had been gutted from it so there wasn't an opportunity to fire it up. Although it was incredibly cool to put hands on all of the switches, relief valves, primer/starter, leyshaft, etc. that i've seen in so many youtube videos.
    As an aside I always love seeing a nice clean engine room.

  • @krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975
    @krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 2 года назад +7

    Nothing smells like the top deck of an EMD. I really miss them.

  • @TheTheratfarmer
    @TheTheratfarmer 5 лет назад +24

    cool video. imagine a V-20 710 cold start to full power, then to full load in 10 seconds. nuclear power plants have them. they have stored compressed air to start and oil heaters. 4160V three phase and maybe 4900 kW. to hear it just behind the flywheel is an awesome growl.

    • @adventurekid9242
      @adventurekid9242 Год назад +2

      The best part is to hear that and know that the vital plant systems will stay energized and we will not put molten nuclear fuel to the bottom of the containment vessel rendering 500 square miles or more of land uninhabitable.

    • @kenneththompson2249
      @kenneththompson2249 5 месяцев назад

      nuclear emergency generators are always heated.

  • @JanicekTrnecka
    @JanicekTrnecka Год назад +4

    It sounds like the aux generator that is running in the background makes hell a lot more noise than the main engine.

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  Год назад +1

      The generators are pretty loud. That EMD is also fairly quiet, as far as main engines go.

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD 2 года назад +4

    Reminds me of my ocean going tug days. We had 4 12 567 A engines.

  • @wazza33racer
    @wazza33racer 3 года назад +5

    The EMD must be pneumatic turbine start. She sounds glorious!

  • @timmayer8723
    @timmayer8723 2 года назад +4

    Very tidy engine room and clean.

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  2 года назад +4

      If someone swaps out a part, puts the used part in the box and writes on that box “used-good” and I find it, it automatically goes in the trash. Engine rooms collect the arranges garbage.

  • @09turbodiesel
    @09turbodiesel 5 лет назад +8

    That the first time I have seen an electronic fuel injected EMD started. I did governor work for many years had to check the rack every time I had to change out a governor. Thanks for the video

    • @enumrob
      @enumrob 5 лет назад +3

      Pretty cool computerized system with the diagnostic display and everything. Amazing.

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  5 лет назад +2

      It actually doesn't have diagnostics on it which sucks. It only has run time data like injector pulse width, temps, etc. If there is an alarm for some reason all it shows is "EMS Alarm" and I have to troubleshoot it with a laptop.

    • @hithereson
      @hithereson 5 лет назад +1

      @@epicfred do you not use Win Emmon to communicate with the emdec sender/receiver?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  5 лет назад +1

      Zack Sprawls yes, I have to run that on a separate laptop though. For some reason the it wasn’t installed on a stationary system which would have been nice.

    • @hithereson
      @hithereson 5 лет назад +1

      @@epicfred yeah i know the feeling. Can you not review faults emdec logs with the WinEmmon version you have?

  • @TheTheratfarmer
    @TheTheratfarmer Год назад +3

    when in need, an EMD.

    • @jamieteal2107
      @jamieteal2107 Год назад

      What a great bumper sticker that would be 👍🇦🇺

    • @bobbykent4643
      @bobbykent4643 8 месяцев назад

      Sounded like Detroit powered generators .

  • @cvdheyden
    @cvdheyden 2 года назад +1

    Cool! But funny that the rag was put to the same place always, even though it was blown away.

  • @rickiemckillip8124
    @rickiemckillip8124 Год назад +2

    Most of the Tow Boats on the Mississippi River have EMD Engines on Them

  • @garylarson6386
    @garylarson6386 Год назад +2

    I worked for the C&NW RR they set me out to start an EMD SD45 and it was -10 deg could not get it to fire and the water drains were frozen, was told to tiewrap two 16oz starting fluid and throw in both side airboxs, violent start but no cracked block from 350 gal straight water

    • @cherylstevens9370
      @cherylstevens9370 7 месяцев назад

      What area did you work in?im in Chicago

    • @garylarson6386
      @garylarson6386 7 месяцев назад

      cedarlake shop mpls,mn
      @@cherylstevens9370

  • @curtchase3730
    @curtchase3730 3 года назад +2

    Saw some finger pointing going on there! LOL. Nice that the lights don't dim when you hit the starter unlike my car! Oh, forgot, it's and air starter! Got it.

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +1

      The lights dim when the compressors kick on!

    • @michaelslattery2121
      @michaelslattery2121 3 года назад +1

      @@epicfred A heavy duty pneumatic check valve on the discharge line will likely stop that. It will relieve tank pressure from sitting on the unloader valves until the compressor gets up to speed and loads. If you have dual compressors adjust the kick-in and kick-out pressures so there is a definite lead/lag delay so they don't start simultaneously.
      Maybe you already know all that but I'm an old fart trying to pass on a little hard earned knowledge. 34 years as a tug C/E.

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +3

      I was mostly joking. If a lot of things are all running at once and my captain turns the hydraulics on which are on a soft starter you can hear the generator load up and the lights dim just a hair for maybe a second. Those generators are pretty responsive.

  • @bobbykent4643
    @bobbykent4643 8 месяцев назад

    Brings back memories of my deckhand /Tankerman days on towboats .

  • @hotmama2336
    @hotmama2336 5 лет назад +10

    3:18 woah

  • @rgj5832
    @rgj5832 5 лет назад +16

    Thanks for the video I enjoyed it! Was the vessel on shore power prior to generator power feed transfer? Also the EMD engines sound awesome!

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  5 лет назад +6

      RGJ58 yes, the boat was in shore power. And I agree, the EMDs sound pretty awesome

    • @jamieteal2107
      @jamieteal2107 Год назад

      @@epicfredvery enjoyable 👍🇦🇺

  • @AlongtheRiverLife
    @AlongtheRiverLife 5 месяцев назад

    Great video!

  • @towboatjeff
    @towboatjeff 3 года назад +2

    I like that you don't have to do much to pre lube the engine. I have to open valves and manually run a pump on the boat I ride.

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +2

      The prelude and the oil transfer pump are tied into the same lines. If I have to add oil to that engine I’ll have to turn a lot of valves. But yes, it’s a pretty easy engine to run and start which is nice.

    • @towboatjeff
      @towboatjeff 3 года назад +1

      @@epicfred I've got separated lines and pumps for the pre lube system, then a separate pump for adding clean oil to the engines and another pump for pumping used oil out of the engines on the boat I work on. I've worked on older boats that only had one pump to do all 3 jobs on both engines before so I like the setup I have now a lot better.

  • @scottcupp8129
    @scottcupp8129 3 года назад +2

    What a beauty!!!

  • @roypounds7704
    @roypounds7704 Год назад

    Thanks Buddy!

  • @blackcitadel37
    @blackcitadel37 3 года назад +4

    Awesome video man but use some ear protection. That will hurt your earring

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +7

      I had ear plugs in. I'm a stickler for ear plugs. That's what the orange string around my neck is attached to.

  • @TheTheratfarmer
    @TheTheratfarmer 5 лет назад +2

    when i need, EMD.

  • @TheTheratfarmer
    @TheTheratfarmer Год назад +1

    maitenace, dont dog them. just like another engine.

  • @Finnmarken91
    @Finnmarken91 Год назад +1

    Awesome and very informative, were those John Deere Generators?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  Год назад +1

      Yes they were. Don't get too exited, they're expensive junk.

  • @thomas5223
    @thomas5223 3 года назад +2

    why open the cylinder bleeder ports? what happens if you don't?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +6

      To check if water has leaked into the cylinder due to a bad head gasket, and if water has leaked in it prevents you from damaging anything.

    • @thomas5223
      @thomas5223 3 года назад +1

      @@epicfred Thank You Very Much...it looks like this week for the oil service on the EMD 645 .It is a genset.. Have a Good Day

  • @coreymcdowell3471
    @coreymcdowell3471 5 лет назад +3

    You need to do day and the life

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  5 лет назад +2

      I'll start making a video a midnight tonight
      edit: Here is a link to a crappy "day in the life" video ruclips.net/video/MDr06ZdzTG4/видео.html

  • @MikeKostecky
    @MikeKostecky 4 месяца назад

    Where is your hearing protection??!!??

  • @noamansattar
    @noamansattar 2 года назад +1

    Omg that's loud.
    So the first one is the generator
    3rd was the actual engine
    What was the second?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  2 года назад +2

      Blow down. You do it to make sure no water or fuel has leaked into the cylinders.

    • @bobbykent4643
      @bobbykent4643 8 месяцев назад +1

      Wouldn't be surprised if it was the air compressor.

  • @anthonygarces1547
    @anthonygarces1547 Год назад +1

    No pre-lube?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  Год назад +1

      When i pushed the green start button before I started opening the blowdown valves, that started a prelube sequence.
      ruclips.net/video/Z-q1zDkE8zE/видео.html

  • @alexanderlashkevichhi-tech5452
    @alexanderlashkevichhi-tech5452 2 года назад +1

    How much is your ship big?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  2 года назад +1

      0.156 furlong.

  • @leonpano
    @leonpano 8 месяцев назад

    Why you need a generator to start an EMD engine?
    Is not better to start EMD with starter form batteries?

    • @MiniCmaX
      @MiniCmaX 7 месяцев назад

      EMD engine is started by compressed air.

    • @leonpano
      @leonpano 5 месяцев назад

      @@MiniCmaXwhy I see most of EMD started by starter not air(SD70Ace uses air but that is one of few)

  • @sosig1341
    @sosig1341 3 года назад +2

    Class 67 engine

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +1

      I don't know what a class 67 is. That model is a 12-710. It's tier-2 compliant if that's what you mean.

    • @sosig1341
      @sosig1341 3 года назад +1

      @@epicfred it’s the same engine used in a class 67 from England

  • @SternenruferinPatchouli1
    @SternenruferinPatchouli1 3 года назад +2

    whats that? a ship engine?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +7

      McDonalds wind up toy that came with a McNugget Happy Meal

  • @abecoulter8550
    @abecoulter8550 3 года назад +1

    what make of main engines?

  • @TROUROCKS
    @TROUROCKS 2 года назад

    genny goes full revs cold .... no warmup !!!!!!!!!!!!!! not on my boat

  • @srivenkatvidyasubramanian6348
    @srivenkatvidyasubramanian6348 4 года назад +1

    Was that EMD 12N-710G-3 ?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  4 года назад +1

      L12-710. I forget the rest of the designation

  • @truckinman86
    @truckinman86 5 лет назад +1

    So, what engines run the generators?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  5 лет назад +1

      John Deere 6068 Tier II. They're 6.8L inline 6 cylinder engines.

    • @speed150mph
      @speed150mph 4 года назад +1

      EpicFred Haha sounds like I’d be a great engine mechanic on your boat. I’ve spent 8 years working for railways. We used the Jd powertech 4045 and 6068 on a lot of our track maintenance equipment I used to fix, and now work on EMD engine in the locomotives themselves.
      I find it curious that you guys use the expansion tank cooling system off the locomotives it seems. I figured you’d just use direct seawater cooling. Does your boat have radiators for cooling, or do you run a heat exchanger sea water cooler?

  • @steveconnell791
    @steveconnell791 2 года назад

    Did someone call the cops

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  2 года назад +1

      No cops, just sadness.

  • @TheTheratfarmer
    @TheTheratfarmer 7 месяцев назад

    I eat. hqamburger.

  • @TheTheratfarmer
    @TheTheratfarmer 7 месяцев назад

    need an power house.

  • @joehomer4421
    @joehomer4421 3 года назад +3

    I missed any remarks about pre-lube at pre-heating.
    For How long does engine get prelubed? Does engine get preheated before starting?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +3

      That engine has an automatic prelube sequence. You push the start button once and it starts a timer for I think 15 minutes of prelube, if you don’t start it before then it just shuts off. Then there is a pressure sensor lockout, you can’t roll the engine over to blow it down or start it till at least 5 psi of oil pressure I think. I don’t work on that boat anymore so I forget what all the parameters are. The did make it pretty dummy proof though.

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +6

      Also, I forgot. This engine does not have a block heater or a lube oil heater. There is a diesel fired heater for the engine room but it never gets cold enough to need to use it.

  • @electric7487
    @electric7487 4 года назад

    u/stabbot

  • @BruceBoschek
    @BruceBoschek 3 года назад +1

    Ha! That compressed-air starter could use an oil trap! Loved the video! Thanks.

    • @KillerJoeFIN
      @KillerJoeFIN 3 года назад +7

      Actually that white cloud is moisture from the air rapidly expanding.

  • @Drakeman2003
    @Drakeman2003 3 года назад

    2:57 what was that?

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +1

      I was switching the boat from shore power to generator power. I used the test valve wrench to close the breaker, holding onto something makes it easier to flip.

    • @Drakeman2003
      @Drakeman2003 3 года назад

      @@epicfred that alarm

    • @epicfred
      @epicfred  3 года назад +4

      When I killed the shore power the system alarms because it sees a power loss. That boat can’t sync generators or shore power, so you just have to open one breaker and close another.