Giant-Man Marvel Legends HasLab is Failing
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From that back shot you can see they still put the bottom ball all the way down in the neck. But I guess figuring out engineering is too expensive for an indie company like Hasbro...
😂😂😂 👍🏾
Seems like they did it on purpose. To show people that double-ball doesn't work and announce like a comeback thing to the horrendous ball hinge
Yep, they can’t comprehend basic articulation. Or choose not to
@@FinalConsensusthank you! See idk why people think hasbro is a multi-billionaire company like mafex, mezco, shartimus productions and etc.
@@NightWatch0997but swivel has best range of motion? 🤔
I feel there's more people like me, after the price hikes I moved forward and left Hasbro behind, spent my money in other stuff, other collections, etc. I feel really disconnected of Marvel legends because of the lazy figures, stupid prices, pointless figure packs...
Two years ago i would've backed this day one. But now everything Marvel legends feels "meh"
Ah, so what do you buy that is below $20 and great details and articulation? I'm looking for that kind of line too.
In Europe the figures are way more expensive. What I do now is buying four Neca figs instead of a ML wave. I have way less figs but the quality is superior.
The only cheap stuff I acquired recently is the four turtles from the latest movie. Half the price of a marvel legends but not that far in terms of quality.
Another example is the recent chun li by Jada. That fig is 37€ here. The ML Toad was 39,99€, the venom 3-pack is 111€... And unfortunately we don't have those crazy price drops you get there for black Friday or similar
Neca, the details, paint and sculpt are amazing! But those horrid articulations... If it wasn't for that I would collect more neca. And toad is currently $21 on amazon! I paid full price last year 🤦🏿♂️
But yup, the Jada SF figs are killing ml, even at the same price tags.
I think the Hasbro team played it safe - and as a result it’s met with an average response - we’ve only really started talking about it again now it’s near the end, it went very quiet in the middle of the campaign
That makes perfect sense after the failure of last year’s engine of vengeance campaign. Honestly, that one would’ve been more justifiable pricewise if they had done something like the Carter Slade, iteration of Ghost Rider to go along with it.
They usually quieten off during the middle.
@@nicholasdickens2801 This failure of a Haslab has been quite throughout. It was being outpace by EoV (which was LOSING orders!) until Day 20 when it pulled even. Then it took until Day 40 for it to surpass EoV by a mere 1,000 orders. Galactus saw over 2,000 orders between Day 40 and Day 42. Giant Man got under 300. On Day 43, Sentinel had 15,000 orders and Galactus had 17,000. EoV had about 5,000 and Giant Man is barely hitting 7,000. The writing is on the wall! It now needs to jump from averaging 100+ per day to 1,300+ per day for the next two days. I just don't see it happening.
This is my take about this project. Many collectors got disappointed when they've try to sucked it out on the engine of vengeance. now it is more of a collateral. But the worst part here is, they supposed to impressed collectors to win back the hearts to hasbro/ML but they didn't. I know they are confident enough when they release it thinking 200 dollars and the money alone is not a problem to majority of collectors but again they didn't make an effort on anything to impress the consumer. There strat here is really sucks imo.
The main problem is that Hasbro is too stupid, too lazy, and too arrogant to do basic market research and ask the fans what they want. They shit the bed with EoV and then blamed the fans, assumed "paywall" issues, and took at stab at Giant Man - another bad guess. Idiots run that company.
If you were hasbro, what would you do to make it better without going over budget?
@@suhtangwong Giant Man is not going to fund. But if Hasbro wanted it to succeed, they could have simple announced they were throwing in the Wasp for all backers an they'd have generated a hell of a lot more orders and funded it. They'd still make an obscene profit. But they're both stupid and greedy and that combo always hurts the consumer.
@@suhtangwong maybe i might say its too late right now. but them for sure, they've been given a lot of time to promote this. if you ask me i would invest more time in promoting giantman like making a reveal of other fig related to him. making a villain connected to him like new yellow jacket or kang would be interesting too. there is a lot of advertisment out there that they shoulve have tried if they really care.
I think this is a good indicator of how many people have just checked out of Marvel Legends.
Idk. People have been eating up the last few waves. This seems specific to the Haslab
Yup only one I’ve wanted in the past months has been Blade and that’s just for a midnight sons collection, should’ve had a neutral head to swap out
Nah, the same people like you who say this are the same people who eat up the trash waves that come out 🤣🤣
Shf is Pretty much better in every aspect Possible
@@Kaikai09221 Shf being much more expensive while being the more fragile option doesn't sound like being better in every possible way.
You can fit 10 SHF in one GM Haslab. Even then, SHF doesn't beat Mafex. Maybe you don't collect much AND have a good income?
I've slowly waking up from my M.L slumber much due to your reviews (always liked the superhero stuff, and Hasbro was the way to go), and also trying other lines. It felt almost embarrassing holding a Hasbro Marvel Legends generic figure after trying out Gi Joe Classified or Jada Toys streetfighter line....
Important point, this is the only time we get to see Hasbro's failure. Sure, you can see the same figures on the pegs in walmart for months, but we don't get to see the numbers.
There was a time when Legends was an automatic purchase. I haven't bought any of them since before the new packaging. Unrelated to the boxes, but I don't know when exactly I fell off. I just know I've never opened one of those windowless boxes.
Is it just me or is this line in trouble in general?
They could of sold this figure alone in stores for 149.99 without those heads
I think the giant man is a perfect representation of the hasbro legends fans at the moment, once you factor out MCU only collectors, people who can't afford the haslab or people who don't back funding regardless, we're left with these 7k people who buy hasbro's stuff regardless of the price.
Based off what I see on the fandom sites it really seems a bulk of collectors wait for sales on these items, so maybe now hasbro will finally hear a message, with two failed haslabs.
3 if youre counting the star wars rancor
This was also just a bad time to announce this haslab. Right now, we have the Marvel Knights wave, Void Wave, X-Men 97 wave, the upcoming NWH carded wave, two deluxe NWH figs, the recent D+ Wave, and that’s not even counting everything coming up with Black Series and GiJoe. They announced too much product too close to each other and now they want to throw in a $200 figure in the mix. There’s so much stuff on the market that this haslab barely has any room to breathe. I don’t think they realize there are a good number of collectors that don’t only collect Marvel Legends. Most collectors already have their Christmas preorders checked off and money is tighter this time of year. This campaign also just had terrible marketing. That wasp should’ve been revealed earlier and we could’ve gotten more pictures besides the same promo shot pics. If this fails, I think it’ll be a combination of bad timing, bad marketing, and brand fatigue. People are just tired of Hasbro. It’s a shame because this isn’t a bad looking figure, but they did this to themselves
Keep up the good work fans, hold strong and stand your ground, no reason a billion dollar toy company needs money from us to make something they KNOW people wanted
Amen. It can't possibly cost more than $100,000 to tool, develop and plan this figure. They could have offered it at $125 and it would have sold and Hasbro would have pocketed a cool $1 MILLION. And it was a waste of a Haslab. They should have made a 12" Giant Man because he's almost always shown at 12' high in the comics, rarely growing much larger. They could have done Eternity or The Watcher and added some non-essential figures and it would have funded by now.
Exactly! And another thing that irritates me is people who defend this when Hasbro literally has a $200 transformer for sale on their site and it’s not a Haslab. They made enough units of them to put up on the website without a need for a crowd fund. I think they even had a 4 or $500 devastator on their site too that sold out. Hasbro is so out of touch it’s not funny.
@@BoogSReviews that’s absolutely insulting I didn’t even know that damn
But don't toy companies need money from the consumers to survive? The fans are always correct?
@@suhtangwong The fans are always correct when deciding what they want. Which is why common sense dictates Hasbro do marketing research.
I just think a lot of collectors don't care enough about the character. It's an alternate persona of a C list character. If you can already have other versions of Hank Pym represented on the shelf for a much lower price and taking up way less space, people will just stick with that.
Hank Pym is not a C-list character. He is one of the founding members of The Avengers.
@@Rocket1377 He definitely is a C-List character. Being a founding member doesn't change that. Isn't Wasp also a founding member? She's definitely not an A or B tier character. Giant Man isn't even Hank's main hero persona. Martian Manhunter is a founding member of the Justice League and he's definitely still a C-List Character.
For international buyers the price goes from $200 to $290 after shipping and taxes. Thats a 50% increase to the price for us. It's not a dream project in any way. I think I'm done with Hasbro and their lazy descisions. Tiers like cool figures used to draw in backers, not these crappy crappy face plates that will over time damage and warp the rubber mask
Amen to that. I'll suppose you're in Canada. No possibility of "free shipping" with "Hasbro Premium" membership either since it only coves contiguous US.
Proof that people are fed up with the price to value ratio of Marvel Legends finally.
You think they should jump up their prices to match mafex?
@@suhtangwong What? I’m stating that, the current prices of Marvel Legends is too high for the product they offer.
If they made better figures with more paint and accessories then the current price would be more justified.
I don’t know how you got to thinking I said they should increase prices lol
Hopefully a haslab apocalypse coming soon
I’m not backing any haslabs until all tiers of said haslab are unlocked. Because we’re paying for all those tiers whether it gets unlocked or not.
But when people do that, it guarantees no tiers will unlock. Instead, you could back it and if all tiers don't unlock you can cancel within the grace period.
@@WiGgYof09 that’s the point. Tiers shouldn’t be baked into the price. They should be freebies. Hasbro claims the tiers are incentives. It’s not an incentive if I’m paying for it. There are no true incentives in haslab projects.
@daniloduldulao8286 That's just foolish thinking. There is no such thing as a "freebie," especially in the business world.
I've explained it many times to various people, but how much Hasbro makes per unit is based on how many units they sell. At 10k with no tiers, their profit percentage per unit is the same as if they sold 14k with the tiers. That's the only reason tiers are locked behind backer counts.
Everyone looks at the total revenue, but no one considers cost decreases as more units are made. It's not the revenue that allows tiers to unlock, it's the cost vs. revenue ratio that matters.
@@WiGgYof09 explain why paying for tiers that don’t get made makes sense? How are the tiers an incentive for anyone to buy into these projects? If they are going to charge for everything up front, why even have tiers in the first place?
100% agree they should do pulse exclusives over haslab. They could just make them more limited. I think the figure itself looks fine but at $200 its over priced.if they were able to push it down to $150 i think it would have done better. .the 12 inch marvel legends while they did have less detail were still only $50.
Once they showed classic Wasp as a separate release, I knew this won't make it. Penny pinching at it's finest.
I mean from an outsider perspective it literally just looks like an average marvel legends figure but big.
"I'm tweaking my wallet away from funding it" should've been your actual reply in those posts. That was gold.
" My wallet getting tweeked" :D So true!!!!
I agree, Anthony, it won't fund.
Keep up the content, sir. 😎👊🏼
The company is a big billion dollar corporation in the toy world.🤔(hasbro)
I personally love this thing. Really hope we get the last few hundred backers.
what do you love about it?
The Figure in general.
That pic of the back of the neck and the huge gap looks pretty bad. As does the hinge on the underside of the toe joint.
Overall I don't think it looks bad, but, it should look amazing and work perfectly.
I suspect the part of the mask that goes over the bridge of the nose will tear if someone swaps faceplates frequently.
Anthony, you are absolutely on point. Thank you. Hasbro Marvel team either lazy or they leave out proper articulation / ball joints to cut cost.
Thank you Anthony for your video. Your opinions are understood and agreed with. Jay Woods redundant question of the day: when this Haslab campaign began, it was stated by Hasbro ML reps that they listened to the fans and learned their lesson from the failed EoV campaign; who did they listen to and what lesson did they learn?
Lol
It amazes me how Hasbro just doesn't want to innovate their products and keeps releasing stuff with the same issues as years ago.
Meanwhile smaller new companies make drastic changes, making their products better to please customers. Hell, not only small companies do so, for example Kaiyodo upgrades their engineering of Amazing Yamaguchi line. It's crazy to thing what they started with making their first figures such as Deadpool and Spiderman. Now look at their 2.0 versions, of course it took time but Hasbro prefers to just leave everything as it is, making crap, I'm still salty they made their first ML Ultron fully painted and the new one doesn't have any silver paint. What the hell?!
It seems like most of such big companies think they cannot fail and in todays economy they cannot make less profit than year before so they keep releasing inferior products or even making them even more inferior just to produce them as cheap as possible and earn even more money.
This is disaster. I hope more people will start their own successful toylines and end this predatory crap making nightmare.
They could have made him the same size as the super adaptoid, did different heads instead of faces, and did other sized figures with it, kept it at the same price and it would have funded
I was tempted on this one.....but as a Canadian these Haslab projects are way to expensive for what they are......after exchange duties taxes etc. for example Galactus (a figure I would have loved) would have cost me nearly $700 ?????This one will be over $400 and that is just ridiculous for what you're getting and honestly why is thing crowdfunded????? This guy could totally be at retail and should have been......$150 at retail they'd sell thousands
Giant-Man is B tier character at best, and he isn't an army builder. It's not exciting.
Same... I don't know why hasbro doesn't do the Iron Man God killer armor as a haslab exclusive, or maybe eternity, or maybe a celestial, with some beyonder figures fighting it. That would be something people would back, but giantman is a mid choice at best from hasbro.
@@ShinKamaitachiif giant man won’t fund, a celestial definitely won’t.
@@BoogSReviewsjust galactus and sentinel is stuf that really is eyecatching at havin a big -at scale- with regular figures.
But next stuff after those 2 have been.... not such exciting to have
They overestimated his popularity
@@laughslapproductions4690 maybe , but still was a nice bet
It's a real shame that an important character like this probably won't be backed. It's been very hard to pull the trigger because the figure, in large part, looks like a scaled up version of the 6-inch legends, or at least has all of the problems the 6-inch legends have. While yes, there is great sculpting going on, the paint just isn't there to highlight it and all the other features that separate this from a regular legend (besides the size, of course) aren't enough to warrant purchasing it for me
Marvel legends ain’t even fun no more.. $60 two packs and consistent scarcity has turned me off of this line completely
I think he looks pretty good, and I think it's a good move on their part to bring the price down from last time. But like you said, it paradoxically doesn't seem to matter? But I also agree he could have probably sold in a store for a few bucks less. Like quarter scale TMNT and Deadpool. 🤷🏽♂️
You didn't mention how the face plate swap system will warp the mask jaw area.
There's no way to know if that'll be a problem. Plus, who's going to be swapping the faces often?
I just don't get what's the point of the tiers; they are being included in the base price, let people get the dang "extras" then. It would fund faster if everybody is getting all the stuff they are paying for.
The Spawn crowdfunding was way better: People kept backing it and Todd kept adding accessories even after reaching all the tiers.
Yep. Hasbro does it to trick people who don't know better.
I think this HasLab may be aa watershed moment. The Mouse is wetting his pants watching stock prices drop and is responding by jacking up prices on every attraction, service and IP he owns. Meanwhile, production costs continue to rise, inflation is running rampant, and I’m left wondering if mass market toy lines aimed at adult collectors based on IP like Marvel, DC, and Star Wars are even financially viable anymore. Even McFarlane is cutting corners left and right and raising prices now.
They want you to think it's necessary. It's not
Agree with ur points. This could have easily been a preorder without being a crowdfund. Cause imo even if it doesn't fund, there are 6000 around backers so that equates to more than 1 Million, which Hasbro is leaving out just cause their goal is not reached. Penny wise and Pound foolish, as always.
Also I am shocked that hasbro still can't do a proper double ball peg. That slit in the back of neck is not gonna give him enough range still and the head will be disconnected from the neck, they have that spiderman as an example and still they don't learn😮💨😮💨
The problem is Hasbro’s has no competition with the Marvel Legends TM
Exactly this! Without competition there’s no reason to innovate. They just continue to churn out basic uninspired product.
I could argue there's Diamond Select, but the scale is different and they release very few figures per year. Also, the Japanese import companies, but those are too expensive.
I actually thought of being a 3d sculptor/modeler of action figure companies because I want to fix the shortcomings of their figures.
But I realized it doesn't mean I will have the authority to permit designs that will be released.
So even if I know how to fix their figures in its 3d form, probably I will be forced to model their own figure designs with its flaws.
It's not like I'm not buying Hasbro products because I am... but my Marvel Legends purchases are now few and far between. I used to buy entire waves. Then it was comic only figures. Now it's select comic only figures... and now, I can count the number of Legends I buy a year on one hand and still have fingers left over. And I did back the Sentinel, I did back Galactus. I'd love to have a big Giant Man in my Avengers display... but from day one, I've been hesitant to pull the trigger on this one.
I'm buying plenty of GI Joe Classifieds. I bought the Haslab H.I.S.S. tank, I bought the Dragonfly... I think those are better products and that I'm getting my money's worth... and both of those cost more than Giant Man. I'm happy with my G.I. Joe Classifieds; and I am confident that I'll be happy with those Haslabs.
Likewise, I am happy with my Haslab Unicron, Victory Saber, and I am sure I'll be happy with my Haslab Deathsaurus (the latter two cost less than Giant Man and we've gotten a lot more).
Maybe it's the Disney tax. Maybe the Marvel Legends team needs some new blood, I don't know.
It’s Giant-Man.. He’s not that exciting. Hank,Atlas,Goliath,they’re deluxe or BAF level characters. I don’t need a two foot Giant-Man. I’d be more excited over a six inch Yellowjacket.
This should have never been a Haslab. Should have been put into production with a limited number of pieces
Goodbye Hank, send my greetings to cookie monster in the shadow realm
Don't forget Robbie and his pet Rancor, lol.
Honestly, if this was made before Galactus and Sentinel and have a lower number of backers required as well as a reasonably lower price, it might have been successful. I also wish Hasbro made a new 12-inch version of Giant-Man back when the scale was brought back, especially since that second movie would have meant a shitton of Ant-Man related merch.
You phrased it perfectly to summarize my personal take on this Haslab and probably many many others' as well: "If it gets made, I want one, but I don't really want it."
Also, $200 may not be a lot in terms of collecting, but the economy is down and people are being more selective. Why spend $200 on this if you aren't absolutely in love with the concept/character/execution, if you can spend the same $200 on the upcoming massive sewer playset from Ramen Toy? Or even their KO version of Ghost Rider car?
I think its part value but also just a changing of the times. For me personally, getting something that big and spending $200 for a single figure just doesnt carry with it the same appeal it use to. Money is tighter, space is limited, and just my enthusiasm is waning. 5 years ago I probably wouldn't have batted an eye. It seems worth it but I dont feel the need. My collecting has sharply declined in the last 2ish years and Im a lot more picky. I think the Rancor really killed a lot of my excitement too. If I saw this for $200 at Target, maybe it would make me consider it, but having to wait to get it after spending the money isnt helping either.
Thanks for a great op-ed, Anthony. The figure isn’t HasLab-worthy, and fans literally aren’t buying it. It’s not because it’s overpriced or that collectors aren’t interested in a new Giant-Man; it’s because Hasbro is half-assing yet another design. That lollipop neck - at 4:31 - is inexcusable on something that’s supposed to be a premium product
I don't think they choose the right project team when creating some figures, you have some really good detailed figures and some very basic ones, all from different sculpters and workers.
It's a prototype. The final figure won't have that gap.
@@Rocket1377 and you believe that because…? 🤔
@@Rocket1377 Just to clarify, I mean: why do you think Hasbro will actually improve the design before release given their track record?
Lots of reasons. Niche appeal like Robbie Reyes because it's such a specific version for the hardcore comic fans. Too big for most display spaces in homes. Bad blood after EOV flopped. And finally *Ant-Man Quantumania* left a bad taste in the mouth of many fans... so the character's rep is somewhat tainted now. It's like trying to sell Batman toys after *Batman and Robin* 🔥🔥
Never understood why so many people fought this was definitely gonna get funding it was pretty obvious to me it was going to struggle it's just not that impressive.
will hasbro learn ? probably not and i bet they will put the blame on others
Yes, he stated in an interview that its been changed to allow for more articulation for him to look up.
In a video with boog he said they are changing the neck specifically
Anthony let’s be honest to ourselves. There’s no need for a big ass giant man. This could’ve been a BAF or Deluxe like Adaptoid. The fact that they put an important character like this behind a funded paywall did not sit well with others.
This is not good enough for me to back it or make me get back into collecting ML.
If Giant Man does not end up being fully funded, perhaps this experience will be a humbling one for Hasbro. A teachable moment, make Hasbro Humble. Besides, I reckon people these days just want a lot more transparency. Corporate jargon is naff and much too discreet.
I think giant man looks good. that gap in the back of the neck really doesn’t bother to much. BUT I don't think this is worth 200. If this was “haslab” was between 120 and 180 it would be 100% fully funded already. Also Anthony is right this never should have been a haslab. just should have been on their website ready to go. so, even though I do want this giantman I kinda want it to fail so the marvel team can learn another hard lesson. i’d be 100% OK if they stop doing marvel haslabs.
I think if you look at the mask, underneath the chin. The mask has a gap. It doesn't come together. Do you think it has something to do with the way they have the face plate needing to slide under the mask or is it so the head is able to look down? It's visible on the close up head shot that's taken from the side. I could be seeing it wrong. But I wanted your thoughts Anthony.
It's too big, and it's too plain of a design for a Haslab, imo
Hopefully this will make the execs and the marvel legends team to put some effort in future releases both for haslab and regular
I don't think I get my money's worth with even the basic legends figures. They raise prices but loose accessories.
I about choked laughing when I saw that massive gap in the neck. I wasn't interested in this one from the jump but that oversight sealed the deal. Not good enough for me.
This is Hasbro, the biggest action figure company on God's green Earth, and they can't even figure out a double ball peg whereas Jada Toys is in their, what, 2nd-3rd year making figures and they have no problem doing double ball joints. It's incompetence, apathy, or they're too busy chapping the asses of the shareholders looming overhead, maybe all of the above, but in any case, the consumer suffers, and it's about time we spoke out.
That neck really does look awful. I know it's a prototype, but people using that as a defence for all criticism truly do not understand how marketing works. Yes, it's a prototype... that they are using to *promote a product* that the prototype is meant to be at least somewhat representative of. If we're not meant to use the prototype to judge the Haslab, then it has literally no reason to exist.
I'm not backing this thing because of the price and awful tiers. It's too big, doesn't work with any display I have and just doesn't seem worth it for the price that I would have to pay (way more expensive for Australians). It's definitely a step in the right direction in terms of price and not locking unrelated things behind a big price tag, but the project itself just isn't that great.
I respect Anthony's dedication to his reviews. He one of the few reviewers saying he'll back this just for the sake of a reivew, even though he doesn't want it. But then you have those other "reviewers" saying "PLeASe back it BCUZ i really really WaAaAaAaAaAaAnt itttt!." That's not a reviewer, that's just a fanboy playing the role of a reviewer.
As much as I want it personally, I think people are starting to wise up to Hasbro. And unfortunately for me, if this doesn’t happen, RIP to my Fin Fang Foom.
The real problem is what you mentioned this should not be crowded funding. For 200$ you could just sell this in a store 🤦🏻♂️
Well also times are tough with prices of necessities getting more expensive, money for hobbies need to be cut back
Engine of Greed and Giant-Turd
Like I said before if they added the retro Wasp and the retro Yellowjacket Hasbro just revealed, along with the the Giantman face plates for $199.99 this would have been a great bundle.
Yeah, it is like that ugly thunder tank from Thunder cats. Way too expensive for what they are giving. It is to them more for the money they can make.
This is why NECA is my go to domestic company
I gave Hasbro too many chances, and I'm tired.
Maybe Hasbro should start releasing these in parts, like those magazine subscription figures. I'd rather pay $30 at a time to build an expensive thing I don't really want piece by piece, instead of shelling out all at once.
As a wise man once said:
"Hey Freakshow, you're going nowhere!"
Hasbro makes no sense with this. They have no issue putting out 200$ Transformers once a year as retail releases, but they want people to crowd fund this. I have all of those Transformers and if this guy had been a normal release, I probably would have snagged him as an impulse buy. Sucks for people that want him, but they only have Hasbro to blame
I don’t need a 24” Giant-man, a 12” will be enough on a regular release. I don’t have space for a 24” figure. This is just me though, I can sleep without a 24” Giant-man in my collection.
Wait, so you don't want a 24" Giant Man in your bed with you?
Is Hasbro the biggest toy company in the world? Last I heard, they were 4th behind Lego, Bandai Namco, and Mattel.
Depends how you cut it. It was between them and matter but then matter bought Mega Bloks... Lego is it's own thing imo. And Bandai is really a conglomeration of smaller brands.
Nailed it! I will say that I’ve heard people say they don’t back projects early on and see if it’ll force Hasbro into sweeping the pot
If they would have shown off the wasp figure, with no alternate heads or face plates, and dropped it to $150, that haslab would've been funded within a week or 2 of the campaign.
You know they could still make this giant man available to everyone as a build a figure I make the make the wave like 7-8 figures, and just hiked the price up to $30-$40, putting the wasp figure they showed in the wave and boom. If toybiz can do it, hasbro can it, but they won't.
Dwight did say that they were modifying the neck when he was being interviewed
Agree on all points. You gotta talk with your wallet no matter if it has an effect or not.
Here’s my reasoning. Who the fuck is Giant Man and why am I paying a premium for this figure? Its not a great figure. And they’ve been selling this figure on “Its Giantman” and we may sell figures that go with it eventually, but golly gee, we didn’t include them on this set. Have another obscure face plate. Super easy pass for me.
I think they should just stop wasting time with these large figures/cars and just do direct to consumer crowd funds that they cant sell in a retail environment for “reasons.”
It should have been an exclusive to Hasbro and all the tiers should have been included. This is not a dream project per what Haslab was meant to be. Crowdfunding shouldn’t have happened in this case.
I just want people to be more honest about these marvel legends instead of being corporate shills
It’s simple as that. Well said. 💪🏾👑🦍
Me too buccee me too
The point is valid. But maybe it should have come from someone without a corporate mascot as their profile pic?
Agreed 1000%
@@slicksterofstyle9161what
Considering the old BAF sells for $200 all the time I think this really was just too big for most people in regards to a Giant Man. Had this been 12 or 18 inches I think Legends shills would have ate it up.
So you want it to be smaller for the same price? 🤔
The size isn't the issue. Giant Man should be four times the size of a regular Marvel Legends figure, 12" is too small. I think it's just burnout from too many Haslabs and similar crowd funding items all launching at the same time. Many comic fans are also Star Wars fans, and they just backed The Ghost from Rebels/Ahsoka. I also think launching right before the Holiday season is a mistake. Hasbro need to space these out better, I think if they had moved Giant Man to March, it would have moved faster.
I find it sad how a lot of the members are attacking the community these last couple of days to desperately fund this Haslab,they're merely hypnotized by the "$200 is way cheaper than the previous haslab" rather than seeing other aspects like how it's too big for most collector's displays and has tiers that are useless to most people.
I think EoV & Giant Man have shown how toxic a certain contingent of the community is, particularly the moral superiority ones who think they are the "good" guys because they are always so positive about Hasbro's products & efforts. They routinely attack any critique (well usually they attack the critiquer, not the actual critique) & try to pulverize people into backing projects or accepting poor quality & high prices. Then when it fails they blame consumers instead of having any kind of rational thinking to attribute issues with the campaign or the ML team.
One of the main ML facebook groups has seen daily spam begging people to spend their $200 even if they don't want it, just so the poster can get it. Don't worry if you dont want it you can scalp it later. But pony up the $200 ot you're a hater! I was almost considering it until that nonsense kicked off.
@@tetragene That's why we call those people sycophants, or ass kissers / shills for shorthand.
I've said since Day One that it was a wasted Haslab. Far too big. Traditionally, Giant Man has rarely been shown taller than about 12' in the comics. He should have been a 12" regular release figure. Save Haslabs for truly massive characters like Eternity or the Watcher or for vehicles and playsets. Hasbro just refuses to learn.
When Anthony customs asks a question, they better damn answer.
Me: Hasbro, can I get Annihilus please? Maybe a better version of Annihilation Nova?
Hasbro: Did you say 2-foot tall Giant Man and a bunch more Spider-Mans? Here you go.
They just released most of the original avengers for what... the 60th line and beyond earth's mightiest? They should have just released all those and made giant man the build a figure. Literally the perfect way to release a new giant man with the original avengers. Nah they got there stupid haslab campaign, so they didn't do that thinking enough suckers would buy a $200 version of a giant man seperately. After this haslab fails, I'll be suprised if they go forward with haslab for marvel anymore. There isn't enough people that like giantman that much or have the space. Should have just been a 12" build a figure.
I feel like a 12"-14" Giant Man BaF would have fit perfectly in the Toy Biz styled package.
A wave including the classic Avengers, maybe minimun accessories or no accessories at all to fit the BaF pieces and that would have worked.
After that they can still do the typical Hasbro move of selling you the same figure again with different deco and more accessories to maximize profits with every character used in that wave.
They mentioned that the price is factored in the tiers. It seems that it will reach the minimum 10k at the very best, so if it barely funds, its price should be decreased to $150.
It's not the price, I just don't have the space, I would have preferred something half the size. My giant man don't need be that giant
Tbh I would’ve been happier with a $70 12inch figure that was a repaint of the 12 inch Spider-Man figure
The other bs thing about this is how they said they're excluding figure, so that there's not a pay wall. But this is the same company that makes expensive boxsets with only a few characters people actually want. Want RYV Spidey? Buy his boring wife too! Same with nearly all their boxsets.
And it's not like those tier figures would be good anyway, they'll just be generic Hasbro toys. I've reached the point where I just make a custom after Hasbro announces new releases. I'll just buy a fodder body I like and use it to customize it into the exact look I want, it might not look as refined as an official figure, but it's cheaper and it'll actually look like the character
If they had offered this exact figure, but made it the same size as the old BAF, and sold it at retail for around $75/$80, I would have definitely bought that.
If the Ghost Rider was priced at £200, would have broken records. Giant Man is just not a character I am interested in.
The price is overpriced but not as terrible as previous Haslabs. That doesn’t make it a good price though.
I also think admitting the teirs are part of the price and if they don’t get the goal, oh too bad. I think that’s done more damage than anyone is willing to admit. That does explain the engine of greed price but again that was a price issue.
This has been a pretty revealing 💩 show.
I went from buying every wave since Hasbro has been in charge of Marvel Legends to getting the MCU figures and a few others that I really wanted to now mostly getting the MCU figures. The prices going up and I guess I lost of interest in the line are the reasons I'm not getting this HasLab Giant Man figure.
I think it looks amazing BUT 1) I don’t have $200 rn and 2) I do not have enough space for this. They should still scale this down and make 1/12 and 1/6 scale versions
lmao can confirm they said the thing about cutting out into the neck like on the renew your vows spidey buck. agreed, not how you do a double ball peg.
Basically you don't get charged until the campaign is over , even if it reaches 10,000.
Yeah I'm in the camp of I couldn't careless but if it backs I'd get one. But I couldn't careless and don't want to help it.
The HasBros are gonna be disappointed but I'm just happy people are voting with their wallets and finally seem to have some standards when it comes to their action figures
Hopefully this same sorta thing can happen with McFarlane too
But 7,000 people as of now, Is not "no one"..its still 7,000 buyers..I think these are the same buyers of Sentinel only looks less because its no army builder..Its still a good deal, Galactus seems worth it at $400 but only because the tiers were unlocked, we would have paid $400 all for Galactus if the tiers weren't..So Giant Man at $200 isn't a bad deal..
@@gerrysabronthere are far better figures that you can get for around the same price, had to shouldn't be able to get away with charging this much for a character that's not even super popular, and modeling wise it just looks like your average marvel legends figure. The neck doesn't even have articulation
It should've just been a pulse exclusive and gauge interest based on the online orders