As I have stated in previous comments, I have been handling and shooting 1911s for 65 years and collecting them my entire adult life. Not counting 4 baby 1911s in 22LR and 380, I currently have 13 1911s in my collection. I also have other single action semiautomatic pistols in that collection, including Tokarevs, Browning HiPowers, a Star BM and others. I love the 1911 platform and believe it is one of the best fighting handguns ever issued to a war fighter. It has a record of service that goes back over 100 years and esthetically it is very attractive. I think these maybe just some of the reasons there is more interest in the Stingray than the M&P metal. As much as I admire the 1911 platform, I don't recommend it as a carry option for new shooters. I mean why would anyone want to carry a defensive pistol that is nearly perfect as far as ergonomics go, is easy to shoot accurately especially in 9mm and usually has a trigger that you have to experience to understand. Well let me tell you why I don't recommend it for new shooters EDC. First the correct method of carry for a 1911 is cocked and locked. I.E. a round in the chamber the hammer at full cock and the thumb safety activated. Then when everything goes sideways and you are forced to resort to your legally carried hand gun to defend yourself or another innocent person or persons. You draw your 1911 and swipe the safety down and off with your dominant hand as you draw. You do this under the greatest pressure you will probably ever experience. With training and lots of practice to ingrain this action into your muscle memory takes time and dedication. I know. While in the ARMY I was forced on 2 occasions to draw on another human being. Contrary to ARMY SOP I was carrying cocked and locked aka Condition One both times. As stated earlier I have been shooting 1911s for 65 years and I shot them in NRA Bullseye competition and taught new officers how to shoot their issued 1911s. So when push came to shove my muscle memory kicked in and I was in both occasions able to resolve the situations without being forced to shoot anyone. But that was in the military and the choice of weapon was not mine, I was issued a 1911A1 by the U.S. ARMY. I would not have to sit in a courtroom and justify why I carried a pistol that had to be cocked thereby setting up a dangerous "hair trigger" situation while being questioned by an unscrupulous prosecutor. The issue can be explained and justified by your attorney if you have the training and experience to backup your choice of handgun. There are many reasons police departments don't issue 1911s the need for extensive training and liability in court are just two of them. If I'm not carrying my S&W 442 DAO snubbie I am usually carrying one of 3 semi autos, in order they are a Canik TP9DA, a first Gen M&P 40S&W or a 2nd generation Sigma in 9mm. Once I have put 200-300 round through my Stingray, I am sure I will add it to my EDC rotation. But as I said I have the training and experience to justify my choice and give my defense attorney the tools to deal with the question. If you want to carry a high quality 1911 like the Tisas Stingray, go ahead it is an excellent choice and will serve you well. Just get the training and give your attorney the tools he needs to defend your choice should the need arise. In the mean time my suggestion would be carry a striker fired pistol similar to what your local cops carry. In the meantime take your 1911 to the range and enjoy shooting one of the finest fighting handguns ever devised. My apologies for the length of this comment, but I truly believe these are factors the new shooter needs to consider before carrying a 1911 and possibly making their attorneys work more difficult.🎉
No doubt both good guns, but I've sold off all my polymer/striker fired guns. Even with a metal frame it's still a striker fired M&P. That's not a "bad" thing I don't suppose, just not something that I care for. I'm back to where I started with semi-auto pistols, and that's a 1911 with a minor in P-35 High Power.. What can I say? I'm an old coot. Praise the Lord, Brother. Preach that gospel!
I would guess because the S&W all metal is so much more expensive that less people will buy it. + the bobtail on the Stingray is a feature normally only found in much more expensive guns
The Tisas has an aluminum frame and an un-ramped barrel, so the frame may gouge out over time and use. Most lightweight 1911's use a ramped barrel or, like Ruger, put a titanium ramp in the frame to prevent this. For this reason I would not buy the Tisas. Otherwise, they both look like good pistols. I hear the new (sort of) flat faced trigger on the Smith is good, and the trigger gauge shows a nice pull on both. Glad to see you being proud of your faith, too many people are shy about Jesus. Bless you my friend.
Good comparison video, expected a nice trigger pull on the Tisas, but surprised how light the MP trigger is, I really thought it would be 6-7 lbs. Has changed my opinion on this line of pistol s for carry.
The only difference I need to know about is hammer fired vs striker fired. For years I have tried out at least a dozen striker fired pistols. Owned some of them more than once trying to convince myself to be comfortable. I know it's just me, but I just feel more comfortable with a hammer gun. Thanks for the review and may God bless you and family.
I wont sell my polymer striker fire pistols. Lightweight concealable. But they dont shoot like the old school 1911,s or hi powers.i have a czp01 Aluminum frame but that fat double stack Grip makes it hard to conceal. I think I'm going try that sting ray I like the ed brown cut single stack I think it will help with concealed carry.
Like the Tisas more because it is a hammer fired. Never buying another Striker fired gun again. Hammer fired is easy to practice with my laser bullet. Hammer is also safer to put my loaded gun in my holster. Didn’t think about that when I got a striker fired with out a frame safety. Also looking at the Girsan P-35 PI, that claims will have a new Ops version out in couple of months.
I think the reason so many are drAwn more to the 1911, is because of the history of this model firearm. I am 62 and am now looking hard to find me a Stingray. I still love revolvers too, but that someone 1911 with the bobbed grip would be so nice. I should know this, but can a .22 conversion kit fit the commander frame? I am pretty sure the only thing that makes it a commander is the barrel length. That might be another draw to get a kit and not a .22 revolver.
There are not too many videos on the Stingray available and there are tons of M&P 2.0 Metal out there. That is why I think the interest is more for your Tisas videos.
Personally I wouldn’t carry either one, but if I had to, I would care the Smith. I think the reason for the lack of interest in the Smith overall is because it’s simply a M&P that’s metal and has a better trigger. However, it is $700 - $800 dollars and doesn’t have the aesthetics of the 1911 and the Tisas is almost half the price.
Got one the other day. It's the regent r350cr in 45 goodness I didn't know what I was getting. Doing research now on all the tisas. I think I got the better end of the deal
@@leebeast9756 ships today I bought one yesterday, on the last day sale but this wasn't the bobtail style standard Commander size 9. Next week I'll get the bobtail in 45acp still a great price.with a two-tone 4.25 barrel.
I did a 5 round test fire n realized that I loved it. I'm no pro but the Novak sights were perfect the recoil wasn't as snappy as other calibers n absolutely enjoyed that sample. So went picked up a spare mag n 2 boxes of ammo. It's a keeper!!!
Great comparison and I believe the difference boils down to price. The Smith and Wesson is much more expensive where one could get everything but the aluminum frame in the standard M&P 2.0.
I still don't understand the purpose of the all metal M&P. Must have been a slow day for ideas at S&W when they came up with that. I doubt there are people setting around saying I'd buy a Glock if it were all metal.
Seems to me there was an outfit that offered an aluminum frame for a Glock, aftermarket of course. Rather it's still around I have no idea. I know I never saw one, I just sort of remember an advertisement for them.
@@adamb.6791 Somehow just a trigger flap safety on the S&W doesn't seem as safe to me as both a manual and grip safety either. But people's mileage may vary.
price is your reason, if they where the same price the smith would be far more popular than the tisas. People who own shields just assume why pay more for the metal frame for the most part.
I guess the smart person will carry what they are comfortable with and the 1911 has long approved its reliability and most civilian engagements are less than 3 rounds so why not dump ass
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As I have stated in previous comments, I have been handling and shooting 1911s for 65 years and collecting them my entire adult life. Not counting 4 baby 1911s in 22LR and 380, I currently have 13 1911s in my collection. I also have other single action semiautomatic pistols in that collection, including Tokarevs, Browning HiPowers, a Star BM and others. I love the 1911 platform and believe it is one of the best fighting handguns ever issued to a war fighter. It has a record of service that goes back over 100 years and esthetically it is very attractive. I think these maybe just some of the reasons there is more interest in the Stingray than the M&P metal. As much as I admire the 1911 platform, I don't recommend it as a carry option for new shooters. I mean why would anyone want to carry a defensive pistol that is nearly perfect as far as ergonomics go, is easy to shoot accurately especially in 9mm and usually has a trigger that you have to experience to understand. Well let me tell you why I don't recommend it for new shooters EDC. First the correct method of carry for a 1911 is cocked and locked. I.E. a round in the chamber the hammer at full cock and the thumb safety activated. Then when everything goes sideways and you are forced to resort to your legally carried hand gun to defend yourself or another innocent person or persons. You draw your 1911 and swipe the safety down and off with your dominant hand as you draw. You do this under the greatest pressure you will probably ever experience. With training and lots of practice to ingrain this action into your muscle memory takes time and dedication. I know. While in the ARMY I was forced on 2 occasions to draw on another human being. Contrary to ARMY SOP I was carrying cocked and locked aka Condition One both times. As stated earlier I have been shooting 1911s for 65 years and I shot them in NRA Bullseye competition and taught new officers how to shoot their issued 1911s. So when push came to shove my muscle memory kicked in and I was in both occasions able to resolve the situations without being forced to shoot anyone. But that was in the military and the choice of weapon was not mine, I was issued a 1911A1 by the U.S. ARMY. I would not have to sit in a courtroom and justify why I carried a pistol that had to be cocked thereby setting up a dangerous "hair trigger" situation while being questioned by an unscrupulous prosecutor. The issue can be explained and justified by your attorney if you have the training and experience to backup your choice of handgun. There are many reasons police departments don't issue 1911s the need for extensive training and liability in court are just two of them. If I'm not carrying my S&W 442 DAO snubbie I am usually carrying one of 3 semi autos, in order they are a Canik TP9DA, a first Gen M&P 40S&W or a 2nd generation Sigma in 9mm. Once I have put 200-300 round through my Stingray, I am sure I will add it to my EDC rotation. But as I said I have the training and experience to justify my choice and give my defense attorney the tools to deal with the question. If you want to carry a high quality 1911 like the Tisas Stingray, go ahead it is an excellent choice and will serve you well. Just get the training and give your attorney the tools he needs to defend your choice should the need arise. In the mean time my suggestion would be carry a striker fired pistol similar to what your local cops carry. In the meantime take your 1911 to the range and enjoy shooting one of the finest fighting handguns ever devised. My apologies for the length of this comment, but I truly believe these are factors the new shooter needs to consider before carrying a 1911 and possibly making their attorneys work more difficult.🎉
Thank you for your info and sharing your experience and also your service friend.your comment wasn’t too long!
No doubt both good guns, but I've sold off all my polymer/striker fired guns. Even with a metal frame it's still a striker fired M&P. That's not a "bad" thing I don't suppose, just not something that I care for. I'm back to where I started with semi-auto pistols, and that's a 1911 with a minor in P-35 High Power.. What can I say? I'm an old coot.
Praise the Lord, Brother. Preach that gospel!
I can understand that friend.thank you brother.
I got a Stingray 45 ACP yesterday. Haven't fired it yet but it really looks nice, inside and out.
I don’t believe you will be disappointed friend.
Good video. Thank you. I can't not comment on your accent. That's really saying something considering I'm from Mississippi! Bring it brother
Thank you brother.
I would guess because the S&W all metal is so much more expensive that less people will buy it. + the bobtail on the Stingray is a feature normally only found in much more expensive guns
That’s a good point friend the m&p I have was around 300$ more than Tisas.
The Tisas has an aluminum frame and an un-ramped barrel, so the frame may gouge out over time and use. Most lightweight 1911's use a ramped barrel or, like Ruger, put a titanium ramp in the frame to prevent this. For this reason I would not buy the Tisas. Otherwise, they both look like good pistols. I hear the new (sort of) flat faced trigger on the Smith is good, and the trigger gauge shows a nice pull on both. Glad to see you being proud of your faith, too many people are shy about Jesus. Bless you my friend.
The Tisas stingray I have does have a ramped barrel.thanks friend.
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On this video I show the barrel
@@2Afreedomrange My apologies. I could have sworn it was this pistol, but I was wrong. Thanks for correcting me.
It’s all good friend I appreciate your comments.
Good comparison video, expected a nice trigger pull on the Tisas, but surprised how light the MP trigger is, I really thought it would be 6-7 lbs. Has changed my opinion on this line of pistol s for carry.
Yeah they both have nice triggers.
The only difference I need to know about is hammer fired vs striker fired. For years I have tried out at least a dozen striker fired pistols. Owned some of them more than once trying to convince myself to be comfortable. I know it's just me, but I just feel more comfortable with a hammer gun. Thanks for the review and may God bless you and family.
I understand that friend I was the same way with a hammer fired gun but now I’m comfortable with either one.GOD BLESS and your FAMILY!
Great comparison !! 💯
Thank you friend.
Great video, Speaking my language, Tisas, Smith and Wesson, an God, Give god the Glory in everything 🙌 🙏 ♥
Thanks and amen brother!
I wont sell my polymer striker fire pistols.
Lightweight concealable.
But they dont shoot like the old school
1911,s or hi powers.i have a czp01
Aluminum frame but that fat double stack
Grip makes it hard to conceal.
I think I'm going try that sting ray
I like the ed brown cut single stack
I think it will help with concealed carry.
In my opinion it would be a good choice.
Like the Tisas more because it is a hammer fired. Never buying another Striker fired gun again. Hammer fired is easy to practice with my laser bullet. Hammer is also safer to put my loaded gun in my holster. Didn’t think about that when I got a striker fired with out a frame safety. Also looking at the Girsan P-35 PI, that claims will have a new Ops version out in couple of months.
I think the reason so many are drAwn more to the 1911, is because of the history of this model firearm. I am 62 and am now looking hard to find me a Stingray. I still love revolvers too, but that someone 1911 with the bobbed grip would be so nice.
I should know this, but can a .22 conversion kit fit the commander frame? I am pretty sure the only thing that makes it a commander is the barrel length. That might be another draw to get a kit and not a .22 revolver.
You are probably right friend. I’m not sure if a conversion kit would work but that is the only difference the barrel length.
Love my new stingray 9mm.
They’re great firearms for sure friend.
There are not too many videos on the Stingray available and there are tons of M&P 2.0 Metal out there. That is why I think the interest is more for your Tisas videos.
You’re probably right friend.
Personally I wouldn’t carry either one, but if I had to, I would care the Smith. I think the reason for the lack of interest in the Smith overall is because it’s simply a M&P that’s metal and has a better trigger. However, it is $700 - $800 dollars and doesn’t have the aesthetics of the 1911 and the Tisas is almost half the price.
Yeah I would agree the price probably makes the difference.
I'm looking to buy the Tisas 1911this week I like the Bob tail
on the sting ray
I don’t believe you will be disappointed friend.the bob tail is a plus for sure.
Got one the other day. It's the regent r350cr in 45 goodness I didn't know what I was getting. Doing research now on all the tisas. I think I got the better end of the deal
@@leebeast9756 ships today I bought one yesterday,
on the last day sale but this wasn't the bobtail style standard Commander size 9.
Next week I'll get the bobtail in 45acp still a great price.with a two-tone 4.25 barrel.
I don’t think you will be disappointed friend.
I did a 5 round test fire n realized that I loved it. I'm no pro but the Novak sights were perfect the recoil wasn't as snappy as other calibers n absolutely enjoyed that sample. So went picked up a spare mag n 2 boxes of ammo. It's a keeper!!!
Stingray have a bushing for takedown?
Yeah.
Great comparison and I believe the difference boils down to price. The Smith and Wesson is much more expensive where one could get everything but the aluminum frame in the standard M&P 2.0.
Thank you friend.yeah you have a valid point.
I actually prefer the tisas of the 2. But 5he Smith is a very good gun
That’s my pick to.
Can't beat the looks of them 1911s. Can't beat the value of them Tisases.
Yeah I agree friend.
Put a pice of emery cloth sand paper across the front and under the grips. 😁
That would definitely work.
@@2Afreedomrange That's the way my grandpa did it 😁
Gotta stick with the 1911. Besides, TISAS hasn't sold out to the government like S&W did and the revolver lock issue.
Yeah that’s true friend.
I like the T Sauce better. I've had three SW is not as accurate for some reason.
I agree with you friend you can’t beat the Tisas 1911s.
I still don't understand the purpose of the all metal M&P. Must have been a slow day for ideas at S&W when they came up with that. I doubt there are people setting around saying I'd buy a Glock if it were all metal.
You maybe right friend lol.as for me I like any of them if they run good. I enjoy all types of firearms.
Seems to me there was an outfit that offered an aluminum frame for a Glock, aftermarket of course. Rather it's still around I have no idea. I know I never saw one, I just sort of remember an advertisement for them.
There was its the RIA stk 100 clone of the Glock 17 with a aluminum grip frame.
The S&W would be far superior for EDC. More modern hi cap pistol with a better safety system.
That’s a good point friend.
I don't get how a striker fire is safer than a cocked and locked 1911? Not arguing, just asking.
@@adamb.6791 Somehow just a trigger flap safety on the S&W doesn't seem as safe to me as both a manual and grip safety either. But people's mileage may vary.
price is your reason, if they where the same price the smith would be far more popular than the tisas. People who own shields just assume why pay more for the metal frame for the most part.
Yeah that’s true friend.
Why anyone would choose to carry a 1911 with so many better options available is just silly.
Just like every thing else different stokes for different folks I guess friend.
I guess the smart person will carry what they are comfortable with and the 1911 has long approved its reliability and most civilian engagements are less than 3 rounds so why not dump ass
Like what?
@@blkhrt3922 Any modern double stack pistol.
As long as it's reliable....
Both are great pistols.
Yes sir I agree!