Tisas® USA 1911 Stingray Carry Lightweight 9mm Semi-Auto Pistol - Gunblast.com

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  • @jasonsliger5430
    @jasonsliger5430 Год назад +79

    I appreciate you keeping this channel going. Good job!

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад +10

      Thank you, sir. It means a lot to me.

    • @bobwallace9814
      @bobwallace9814 Год назад +3

      I'll second that!

    • @akyukon
      @akyukon Год назад +2

      Amen

    • @bobvog7123
      @bobvog7123 4 месяца назад

      THANKS for the great video. Isn't it amazing that we can get reviews of just about anything on YT?

  • @azvoltmanphoenix446
    @azvoltmanphoenix446 Год назад +32

    Boge is so softspoken he could make a hipoint seem like a wilson combat. And i mean that as a compliment.....

  • @waynebruening794
    @waynebruening794 Год назад +28

    Mr BOGE we appreciate you & been watching GUNBLAST for 10yrs now. We too miss your brother Jeff… always love me a 1911 review from GUNBLAST, got a dozen or so. Keep up the GRAND WORK & may GOD Bless AMERICA🇺🇸

  • @jakewerth9614
    @jakewerth9614 Год назад +15

    This 1911 is so slept on. It’s extremely well made, great finish, great machining/fitment at an insane price! I have the 45 and everyday I love it more. The only issue was the main spring bore and plunger were rough making the hammer crunchy when cocking. I sanded the bore and plunger, added a little gun grease and now it’s smooth as butter.

  • @dcb805
    @dcb805 Год назад +35

    I have a 9mm and a 45 enhanced model and I am impressed with quality,fit and finish at this price point. Any first time buyer of a 1911 will be pleasantly pleased with this brand.

    • @joeyphillips1181
      @joeyphillips1181 Год назад +1

      I would recommend fusion firearms for like 150$ more due to reliability because they are 100% the tisas seems to be hit or miss

    • @vandidandi
      @vandidandi Год назад

      @@joeyphillips1181 My Tisas is 100% reliable and I heard this from all the people I know who owns Tisas. I also have Colt and Kimber, Tisas is nothing short than these two.

    • @unitedwestanddividedwefall3521
      @unitedwestanddividedwefall3521 Год назад

      How’s the 45 run through a aluminum frame?

    • @vandidandi
      @vandidandi Год назад

      @@unitedwestanddividedwefall3521 Colt and Kimber have Aluminum frames 1911s

    • @unitedwestanddividedwefall3521
      @unitedwestanddividedwefall3521 Год назад

      @@vandidandi and they function ok? I ask because on forums they say the aluminum frame takes a beating from the steel slide. I’m relatively new to the 1911 platform. Many old school types just don’t want to change what isn’t broken. I get that. But a alloy frame has its advantages. Although I don’t feel bothered by the weight of a all steel gun.

  • @andrewcunningham1174
    @andrewcunningham1174 Год назад +11

    Sir, I haven’t run across your videos before but you have a very credible manner of speaking. Especially when you describe the differences in performance between 9 and 45. Thank you

  • @josephcuevas8100
    @josephcuevas8100 Год назад +20

    "You still got the safety between your ears..."
    The best safety feature ever.

    • @bobvog7123
      @bobvog7123 4 месяца назад +1

      And this, "Another great load for social work..." !!

  • @1pieman
    @1pieman Год назад +23

    Gunblast helping me spend my money wisely since 2000 keep them coming Bodge 👍👍

  • @Thebigman6401
    @Thebigman6401 Год назад +10

    I repeat everyone on here. Thank You keeping this channel going. Love content from a real person that is easy to understand.

  • @d.kuhlman
    @d.kuhlman 11 месяцев назад +4

    Love my Tisas Stingray. 700 rounds so far with NO malfunctions. My EDC.

  • @glennrogers9905
    @glennrogers9905 Год назад +7

    I have two Tisas 1911s, one in .45, one in 9mm. Excellent guns.

  • @jakewerth9614
    @jakewerth9614 Год назад +3

    Tip if you have one or any 1911 where the hammer is hard to cock or crunchy feeling. Sand and grease the mainspring bore and plunger. Makes a huge difference.

  • @lfer5116
    @lfer5116 3 месяца назад +1

    This gun is beautiful, might be my first 1911 I purchase! I love the look and the mag capacity is great on this one too. Eventually I’ll grab a garrison in .45 as well!

  • @lens7859
    @lens7859 Год назад +5

    I have a 1911 from Tisas and it’s terrific! And we are enjoying the great exchange rate now between us and Turkey. If they were made in the USA they would be at least double the price!

  • @cl71698
    @cl71698 Год назад +2

    I recently picked up a Tisas PX9 Gen3 duty. I have been very impressed with the quality and performance.

  • @Aviation_Professional
    @Aviation_Professional Год назад +2

    That model has the UPSWEPT safety tail and that is so much better than mine. I have the A1 service Tisas and man that downward turn safety tail is digging into my skin! Tisas won't so anything about it and suggested I get an armorer to modify it and install the UPswept tail. I will just sell this one... lesson learned.

  • @billdye3530
    @billdye3530 Год назад +14

    You're getting a great quality 1911 for 60% of the price of other brands. If looking for info some models under Tisas may say discontinued but are under Tisas USA now. The 10mm models are sharp looking. Great looking 1911 & holster. Thanks & Stay Safe. 👍 🇺🇸 🙏

    • @thystaff742
      @thystaff742 Год назад +2

      I came close to getting one in .45 on black friday. They had a $316 price tag on it, but they had something else I wanted more.

  • @ScottCooper136
    @ScottCooper136 Год назад +5

    I bought a Tisas Stingray a couple weeks ago and really like it.

  • @oneboyscout3653
    @oneboyscout3653 Год назад +2

    Great review!! Great pics and so nice to see u shoot all the dif HPs thru it. Excellent review Sir

  • @jblcva
    @jblcva Год назад +3

    Tisas is an excellent Turkish handgun. They are top notch budget guns. Excellent for the money.

  • @DFox-ud3gx
    @DFox-ud3gx Год назад +11

    I'm buying one because I like the rounded corner in my hand, just feels better. And this gun still has great parts and good trigger pull. I was going to spend money on the Wilson Combat edc 9. This one changed my mind

    • @joeyphillips1181
      @joeyphillips1181 Год назад +2

      Look at fusion firearms I think you'll be pleased with there 1911's for only like 150$ more mine has ran 100%

    • @DFox-ud3gx
      @DFox-ud3gx Год назад +3

      @@joeyphillips1181 Good morning I like these guns there cheap enough to buy two.

    • @DFox-ud3gx
      @DFox-ud3gx Год назад +2

      Joey they look great I'm buying one tomorrow morning

    • @garyjones7370
      @garyjones7370 Год назад +1

      I have to agree as I shoot a atlas Titan a zev hypercomp I purchased a Tisas 45 carry and the shot the stingray and love it a spring job and a polish job and it will be a great gun for under 600. I’m shooting 4 inch groups at 25 yards

  • @otunca
    @otunca Год назад +3

    Thank you for keeping alive on chanel, sir. I have I ways enjoying your chanel. Right now, my old country is going rough times due to an earthquake. Greetings from Texas USA. Sir, God bless you and your family.

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад +1

      They have been much in our prayers, such a horrible tragedy.

  • @farhan.naushad
    @farhan.naushad Год назад +3

    Thank you for adding your music in there.

  • @sizzorjack
    @sizzorjack Год назад +3

    Tisas makes great guns.

  • @w4mkh
    @w4mkh 9 месяцев назад +1

    I loved the review, thanks. But I think I loved the music just as much. I just ordered this in 9mm and .45 ACP.

  • @tobylopez445
    @tobylopez445 Год назад +5

    I enjoy your videos so much because you are such a nice and kind southern Gentleman. also, your reviews are always spot on. thank you, Sir. Blessings to you and your family.

  • @CeltKnight
    @CeltKnight Год назад +6

    I've always liked the way the Commander size pistols feel and balance in the hand. I've carried a full-size 1911 as a duty pistol before and the 1911 platform just FITS. I have an RIA Commander sized .45 but with a steel frame. I bought it as a retirement gift to myself and have been slowly doing some light customizing on it. However, with the steel frame that otherwise excellent pistol is heavy; only one ounce lighter than my 3" .44 magnum wheelgun! This TIsas, with the aluminum frame (I think total weight is just shy of 1.7 pounds?) seems just the ticket. Great review! Keep 'em coming!

  • @sonsuzevren61
    @sonsuzevren61 Год назад +4

    Thanks forthe video.. Love from Turkiye..💯

  • @donsettie3799
    @donsettie3799 Год назад +3

    Thanks Boge for the work

  • @adamadams6740
    @adamadams6740 Год назад +2

    I didn’t realize simply rugged was in AZ chino valley is 35 minutes from me,I’m going have to give them a look,thanks guys.

  • @terrywadsworth5645
    @terrywadsworth5645 Год назад +2

    As a note,1911's don't need bi-lateral controls. The left index finger can run the gun. Being a "NorthPaw",I practice using the left side just in case my right hand is incapacitated. The sainted John Moses Browning was truly a brilliant designer.

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад

      My brother Jeff was a Southpaw. An ambi safety was important for him, but he did just fine running the mag release and slide release with his left hand. He actually preferred right-handed rifles, especially bolt guns.

  • @adamadams6740
    @adamadams6740 Год назад +1

    Tisas is doing a great job with these 1911’s.I got my dad a B45 it’s the stainless full size with the rail.he really likes it had no issues it’s made really well from everything I can see the frame fit is solid there’s no barrel movement.

  • @z06cowboy72
    @z06cowboy72 Год назад +4

    Thumbs up for the Pinch Check. 👍 Hopefully the earthquake didn't impact Tisas production.

  • @abigger04
    @abigger04 Год назад

    Great review… I just picked up my Tisas match .45 and it is amazing. Thank you for keeping this channel going!!

  • @ehcatsfaneric2211
    @ehcatsfaneric2211 Год назад +3

    Own 3...best quality for the money no doubt

  • @789295
    @789295 Год назад +5

    Thanks for the video. I have the Stingray (9mm) and the Devilray (45acp). Both function well. However the 45acp version is a steel frame and has a little more umph to it when it shoots. The 9mm is lighter, smoother. and much easier to control if that is important to you :) Otherwise they look identical :)

  • @tracyknox7915
    @tracyknox7915 Год назад +2

    Alot of pistol for the money thanks for the video Boge

  • @Blakgun
    @Blakgun Год назад

    I just purchased a Stingray a few days ago. They now come with two 9 round magazines. Because I had seen other people received 10 rounders I questioned Tisas about it. Tisas confirmed that they come with 9 rnd mags now. I was a bit disappointed in that. Also the trigger pull weight on my gun was measured with a Wheeler gauge at 4 lbs 6 oz average across five pulls.

  • @joegilbert7661
    @joegilbert7661 Год назад +5

    Great review sir! I have never considered Tisas before, but now will check them out.

    • @patrickmcdowell4933
      @patrickmcdowell4933 Год назад +2

      I own 4 of them 3 are duty and 1 commander. All 4 are 100% reliable with excellent triggers.

  • @kentuckyboy541
    @kentuckyboy541 Год назад +7

    I have a great interest in this pistol. Only thing I don't like is the ambi safety. Thanks for the review!

  • @strokedmule3838
    @strokedmule3838 Год назад +5

    I’ve handled a few of these and they seem to be a quality firearm, my FFL carries one at times. It’s definitely on my radar.

  • @pimpovic2
    @pimpovic2 Год назад +1

    My Stingray tigger isn't that light. I tried to smooth it out, but it only saw little improvement. I've ordered a Wilson trigger, disconnector, sear, and hammer along with springs. Should feel a whole lot better once I've swapped all the parts in.

  • @andreawhalen4142
    @andreawhalen4142 Год назад +2

    I bought this and a bobtail commander 45 by them to match, the 45 is steel frame and doesn't have the trigger the stingray has but it's a reliable shooter and at 492 after taxes from anacortes gunshop the bobtail 45 was a steal.

  • @bobhill3941
    @bobhill3941 Год назад +1

    Now I've seen a third, independent review on these, if I had the money, I'd buy one.

  • @rickpullins8590
    @rickpullins8590 Год назад +4

    Great video. I am glad you kept the channel going . What's your favorite 10mm.

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад +3

      Probably mu Ruger "Buckeye" Blackhawk 10mm/38-40 convertible SA sixgun. Or my Smith 610 DA revolver. As far as 10mm auto pistols, I really love the S&W M&P.

  • @mort6913
    @mort6913 Год назад +3

    I like that they thought about south paws.

  • @grumpyoleman2152
    @grumpyoleman2152 Год назад +3

    Thanks for heads up. I will look for one of these. Take Care!

  • @MrAutochamber
    @MrAutochamber Год назад +5

    Bouge, correct me if Im wrong ;but just watching your ejections I'm guessing this pistol LOVES hot rounds. Even though your practice ammo cycled perfectly , all the defense rounds seemed to eject with force far and away while a couple of practice rounds empty casings came back towards you. Nothing wrong with that in IMHO defense guns should be made to shoot defense ammo.

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад +1

      You are correct, this pistol loved the hot loads. I had several standard-pressure empties drop down into my overall bibs, and as demonstrated, the sub-sonic stuff would not run reliably.

  • @russellweber3466
    @russellweber3466 Год назад +2

    A Tisas 10mm Hi Power version would be very interesting, without a magazine disconnect but with nite sites and a 15 round double stack magazine.

  • @michaelrains2268
    @michaelrains2268 Год назад +6

    Wonderful review and display of a fantastic defense firearm. Thanks much , enjoy the channel!

  • @TheJbertolino
    @TheJbertolino Год назад +3

    This is a great review. Thank you!

  • @outdoornewsamerica
    @outdoornewsamerica Год назад +4

    Great Job Boge!

  • @rustyshakleford7002
    @rustyshakleford7002 Год назад +2

    I would agree with you on the magazine disconnect, only positive I can come up with to have one, if you got into a situation where you were wrestling to keep the gun and felt you were losing you might be able to hit the mag release and render it useless for the guy taking it from you, but ideally they wouldn't get that close to begin with.

  • @oneshoeless
    @oneshoeless Год назад +2

    Great video!

  • @phx4closureman
    @phx4closureman Год назад +3

    7:27 *WOW, 2 lbs 6 oz trigger - I'm VERY curious to try that!!* 😁😁😁😁

  • @sethmartin1317
    @sethmartin1317 Год назад +3

    Thanks for this review I bought one today!

  • @tartrek87
    @tartrek87 Год назад +3

    Thanks for a very good detailed review.

  • @spartan7042
    @spartan7042 Год назад +2

    That's a good looking piece

  • @chrisfisher3900
    @chrisfisher3900 Год назад +3

    Yeah I’ll be buying one of these

  • @ga-gz1bo
    @ga-gz1bo Год назад +3

    Very informative review and thanks for all you do.

  • @KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop
    @KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop Год назад +3

    Hoping their Hi-Power clone returns.

  • @otrocanaldearmasenyoutube2022
    @otrocanaldearmasenyoutube2022 Год назад +8

    amazing vid like always Boge! turkish guns are here to stay. on another subject, i just got a S&W 21-4 and looking for info on it i end up finding jeff´s review of one that belong to you!! great reading it was like watching one of your old videos. Keep up the great content!!

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад +2

      Thanks! I wish I still had that 21-4, but I traded it off on a sixgun as a gift for Jeff.

    • @otrocanaldearmasenyoutube2022
      @otrocanaldearmasenyoutube2022 Год назад +1

      @@Gunblastdotcom for the one in your christmas vídeo?

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад +1

      @@otrocanaldearmasenyoutube2022 as a matter of fact, yes. That sixgun cost me the 21-4, plus three other nice Smiths. But it was worth it to be able to get Jeff a sixgun he actually wanted!

  • @dependablepaul
    @dependablepaul Год назад +2

    Very nice presentation. Thanks for sharing.

  • @solarflare1008
    @solarflare1008 Год назад +3

    Like always great video. .....

  • @jonathanturner1581
    @jonathanturner1581 Год назад +2

    EXCELLENT REVIEW SIR 🙂👍 THANK YOU

  • @MeCanik79
    @MeCanik79 Год назад +2

    I must have this!!!!! Love the look. Just got the Night Stalker, but oh well....what's one more?

  • @Brett235
    @Brett235 Месяц назад

    Thanks for the video. I believe that if this pistol was made here it would be over a thousand dollars. Tisas makes some quality firearms.

  • @visualverbs
    @visualverbs 11 месяцев назад

    I have to commend you, good ole Country Boy (not a disparagement), you're one of the few YT gun channels that I've heard pronounce "ambidextrous" correctly! Most of them pretty, college boys on 'ere say, "ambi-dex-tri-ous." God love ya, son.

  • @michaeldaltonsr8954
    @michaeldaltonsr8954 Год назад +2

    TY! That caught my eye, as I was scrollin! Lotta +'s n 1 package. Don need another...but...it sure looks purty! Mmmm!

  • @sherrybender6955
    @sherrybender6955 Год назад

    Great review. Looking forward to seeing more reviews in this style, I was looking at picking one up.

  • @blueduck9409
    @blueduck9409 Год назад +2

    I hear very good things about Tisas. I have not had any personal experience with any Tisas, but the people that have them really seem to like them. I have not heard any complaints. How is the trigger? Is it decent? Good video!

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад +2

      The trigger is far better than decent, it is amazing. Smooth, with a pull weight of 2 pounds, 6 ounces.

  • @vooclan2767
    @vooclan2767 Год назад +1

    I have one and it’s a great pistol

  • @TurkeyKing007
    @TurkeyKing007 Год назад

    Yes sir. Tisas Usa is in knoxville tn. Good Vid thank you.

  • @Choppalifestyle365
    @Choppalifestyle365 Год назад +2

    Wow your a badass❤ love the vids sir

  • @walterminer4990
    @walterminer4990 Год назад +1

    One on-line had Tisas 1911's on sale in the $400 range, of course, it was the wrong tolime for me, lol!
    Best to ya',,,,!

  • @Rushshooting67913
    @Rushshooting67913 Год назад +4

    Excellent review. Looks like a very nice gun.

  • @BilgeHan-01
    @BilgeHan-01 Год назад +3

    TUSAŞ make small and large arms of all sorts weapon systems to unmanned UAVs unmanned Land vehicles sea land air crafts. Old and experienced still Number 1 factory in Turkey.

  • @quarters-eye8922
    @quarters-eye8922 Год назад +6

    The Tisas Stingray desperately needs
    front strap checkering. They do that -
    they’ll sell a million of ‘em. 👍

    • @drew5337
      @drew5337 5 месяцев назад

      I lamented the lack of grip on my Loaded stainless so I got some clear skateboard tape and cut a piece to fit the front strap. I prefer it to the 20LPI on my TRP.

  • @davo2003hd
    @davo2003hd 10 месяцев назад

    Well done, full of good information.

  • @mi_cheap_guns2925
    @mi_cheap_guns2925 Год назад +3

    I’m a sucker for a round butt or bobtail. Think I’d prefer 9 round mags that were flush, the mag bumpers kind of ugly up the bobtail.

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад +3

      Standard 9mm 1911 magazines work in the Tisas.

  • @J2ROOSTER
    @J2ROOSTER Год назад +3

    Great review brother thank you! This could be the answer I'm looking for....

  • @unitedwestanddividedwefall3521
    @unitedwestanddividedwefall3521 Год назад +1

    What kind of feed does this fine piece have???

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад +3

      The feed ramp is integral to the barrel.
      gunblast.com/Tisas-StingrayCarry9mm.htm
      gunblast.com/images/Tisas-StingrayCarry9mm/DSC01615.jpg

  • @joeyphillips1181
    @joeyphillips1181 Год назад +1

    Fusion firearms makes the best budget 1911 in my opinion I've heard that tisas can be hit or miss but haven't had one personally

  • @richardespinoza6243
    @richardespinoza6243 Год назад +1

    I learn a trick on how to get 45 ACP at a cheep price. Some gun shops at around May have inventory sales were they have too much inventory and they sell it cheep to cut down their inventory

  • @myronharris12
    @myronharris12 Год назад

    Thanks again for the great info. Been looking into buying one.

  • @HK-qj4im
    @HK-qj4im Год назад +1

    Another great video. I am old school and a big guy too..
    Not on the 9mm bandwagon. I am on the 10mm bandwagon.😉👍 I can financially justify a 9mm 1911. One year buying 10mm am vs 9mm... it would pay for the gun.

  • @markchambers2812
    @markchambers2812 Год назад +2

    Enjoyed the review. Thanks

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 Год назад

    "Another great load for social work is..." Ha! I might have to use that one.

  • @peterreily1490
    @peterreily1490 Год назад +3

    My tisas M45 carry was ok for about the first 100 rounds. By the time mine hit 200 rounds it won’t eject (stove pipe), it won’t chamber a round or it’ll double feed, it won’t go into battery.
    All within the same 7-10 round magazine.
    I’ve used 4 different chip McCormick power 10 mags
    3 different chip McCormick power 10+ mags
    Mecgar 8 round mag
    Ed brown 7 round mag
    Ed brown 8 round mag
    Wilson combat 7 round mag
    Tisas won’t ever get through any one of those mags without several failures. The only thing I was told “we only warranty the firearm for 12 months after you purchased it”.
    Total piece of trash!!! Tisas makes garbage. I’ve had it cleaned professionally twice because I didn’t want to give them any excuse to refuse warranty. After I presented the receipts and video showing it was fine for the first couple months they came back with “have it cleaned professionally” so I did. Same issues and contacted them. Then was told “well there is a break in period. Put more rounds through it”. So I did, same issues. Then came back to them and they said “have it professionally cleaned AGAIN”. So I did. Then I attempted to put another box through it. Same issue. Then it was them responding very slowly and finally saying “what ammo did you use?” I told them Winchester white box 230 grain, pmc bronze 230 grain, PMC bronze 185gr jhp, Winchester silver tip 185 grain, Remington UMC 230 grain. By then a year had elapsed and I got the “we only warranty firearms for 12 months.
    I’d been speaking to them for over 3 months. They were stalling so the year would pass and they didn’t have to warranty it anymore. I’ve purposely and will continue to purposely stop anyone from buying Tisas 1911’s and I’ve gladly sent each person my correspondence with sds imports (tisas’s importer) and I’ve saved a couple dozen people already. I’ll continue attempting to save people. I’m not dropping more cash into a piece of junk. The firearm didn’t cost enough to warrant putting more than it’s worth into it for work to be done.

    • @oneboyscout3653
      @oneboyscout3653 Год назад

      Probly extractor out of adjustment. East fix, watch a vid on it

  • @thealsatian4232
    @thealsatian4232 Год назад +1

    Great review my friend!
    Scott Tschirhart

  • @mintkendishin
    @mintkendishin Год назад +1

    well this is a great first impressions video....... how many rounds did you run through it before you made this video?........... was it at least 10,000 rounds?

  • @Texan-1911
    @Texan-1911 Год назад

    That shirt just does it for me sire

  • @myronharris12
    @myronharris12 Год назад

    Thanks again for the information

  • @Abacab965
    @Abacab965 Год назад +1

    Beautiful pistol ! I like it !

  • @russellpayne7901
    @russellpayne7901 Год назад

    I am hoping you will do a video on the Yukon before too long

  • @justamotorcycleenthusiast9800
    @justamotorcycleenthusiast9800 Год назад

    His voice is so soothing. Hes about to put me to sleep?

  • @settleschris1965
    @settleschris1965 Год назад +1

    Will this fit any 1911 holster?

    • @Gunblastdotcom
      @Gunblastdotcom  Год назад +1

      I can't answer for ALL 1911 holsters, but it fits any of mine, and I have several.

  • @Greenmachine305
    @Greenmachine305 Год назад

    If I were to carry a 1911, this seems like a good choice.

  • @joewest1972
    @joewest1972 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the review, I just bought one based on your thoughts. Do you happen to know anything about grips and model numbers for grips? I went to Amazon and typed in bobtail grips... some came up but had some kind of relief for a screw. I'm not at all familiar with which or what grip will be made for these. Thx

  • @desklamp1175
    @desklamp1175 Год назад +2

    Good description. Thanks. No silliness.