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  • Unfortunately google search results lead pc builders into a bunch of bad information on a particular website when researching which parts to buy.
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Комментарии • 998

  • @UltramarinePrimaris
    @UltramarinePrimaris 13 часов назад +649

    I hate being reminded that UserBenchmark exists.

    • @numeritos1799
      @numeritos1799 11 часов назад

      Same! This stuff is useful for people that don't know how that site operates. But if you know then it just ruins to be reminded they exist lol

    • @AndreyStevn
      @AndreyStevn 10 часов назад +22

      Same here, but new folks joining this cult need to see this. Back when I was looking to build my very first Pc, User Benchmark was my first Google result so I went there and read all this nonsense very confused. A friend told me to ignore it and thankfully I did

    • @Zamoxi
      @Zamoxi 10 часов назад

      @@AndreyStevn what do you use to compare parts that is better than user benchmark?

    • @AndreyStevn
      @AndreyStevn 10 часов назад +2

      @@Zamoxi I just go to every YT channel and check benchmarks. I own a 5800X and a 7900XTX so I do a test in my PC to get a reference and see if the result they get is similar or equal, based on That I can tell if it's legit or not

    • @kyletempero
      @kyletempero 8 часов назад

      Jayze2cents, GamersNexas, Hardware Unboxed 👍👍​@@Zamoxi

  • @nahuelcarrizo308
    @nahuelcarrizo308 14 часов назад +1110

    UserBenchmark lives on a constant April Fools status... Shame

    • @lolmao500
      @lolmao500 14 часов назад

      lol userbenchmark looks like its run by conspiracy theorists nutjobs who think jensen, musk and trump are gods among men. Just pathetic AF human beings

    • @enmanuel1950
      @enmanuel1950 13 часов назад +11

      I'll always be glad that passmark was the top result when I didn't know much about pc hardware and I was looking for benchmarks. By the time i came across userbenchmark I already knew I was in presence of BS.

    • @baronvonslambert
      @baronvonslambert 13 часов назад +7

      Hahaha I didn't know about userbenchmark until after I built my PC, ran their tests got told my computer was faster than 87% of benchmarks on the site and then died laughing reading the "review" excerpts about my AMD hardware.

    • @stevog893
      @stevog893 13 часов назад +1

      We've been joking about for years, but we can't have a system comparison thread up anymore using their site, it's lost credibility.

    • @timothygibney159
      @timothygibney159 12 часов назад +3

      unfortunately it was a force the in monopolization of nvidia. Anyone doing a google search comparing AMD vs nvidia gpus got redirected to userbench as ultimate proof

  • @drroth88
    @drroth88 13 часов назад +438

    The way this person wrote about the 7800X3D, one might think the CPU broke into his house and ate his cat. That was PERSONAL😂

    • @tonydalimata
      @tonydalimata 11 часов назад +32

      Lisa Su personally came over and kicked their dog in the front yard.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 10 часов назад +31

      When Intel were first to market with AVX they put 50% of their score weight on AVX performance. When AMD kicked Intel's butt in AVX performance they immediately removed AVX from their test suite "because only extremely rare professional packages use AVX so it's of no importance to consumers"... Except of cause that most modern game engines use AVX in some capacity because it's really useful for processing geometry data.
      TL;DR: AMD existing is personal to the dorks at userbenchmarks.

    • @aajas
      @aajas 8 часов назад +6

      Their review for the 5800x3d is nearly word-for-word identical, they just changed 5 to 7 😂

    • @thelemonwho
      @thelemonwho 7 часов назад +1

      You mean "One of his cats," I'm sure. 😂

    • @scottied2003
      @scottied2003 7 часов назад

      Deeply personal

  • @supdudd5436
    @supdudd5436 13 часов назад +277

    It’s so sad that the owner of this site is a grown man fanboying for bloody tech corporations

    • @Fr33mx
      @Fr33mx 12 часов назад +29

      more like just hating on amd

    • @marsovac
      @marsovac 10 часов назад +12

      @@Fr33mx or there in money involved, or both, or all three

    • @lycanthoss
      @lycanthoss 9 часов назад +3

      ​@marsovac nah, most likely just fanboyism. Check our wcctech comments and you'll see people calling each company childish names like "Shintel", "Ngreedia" or calling people "AMDumbs". Each company has fanboys (though AMD has arguably the most of all; probably because of the goodwill they've earned in prior years).

    • @Lurch-Bot
      @Lurch-Bot 6 часов назад

      Not a 'grown man' but an overgrown child.

  • @uptown710
    @uptown710 14 часов назад +644

    DANIEL, ARE YOU PART OF THE TOP TIER MARKETING MACHINE!!!??? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @danielowentech
      @danielowentech  14 часов назад +348

      Nope, just punishing them for not paying me to promote their site of course

    • @kennethpereyda5707
      @kennethpereyda5707 13 часов назад

      yup

    • @minn5459
      @minn5459 13 часов назад +47

      AMD - Advanced Marketing Daniel

    • @kennethpereyda5707
      @kennethpereyda5707 13 часов назад +1

      @@danielowentech So where was the " so dangerous part "-I must of skipped over it - Can't start the show with that and not cover it- I'm calling bull sh*t on it

    • @kennethpereyda5707
      @kennethpereyda5707 13 часов назад

      @@minn5459 lmao

  • @2528drevas
    @2528drevas 14 часов назад +160

    UserBenchmark's rants about some components, almost always AMD, killed their credibility with me LONG ago.

    • @basmus
      @basmus 13 часов назад +13

      UserBenchmark is the definition of unvoluntary satire.

    • @TreFeKsGaming
      @TreFeKsGaming 2 часа назад

      Seriously as someone whos always looking for the best price to performance (which brings me to amd) i always used to recommended this site to friends until i read one of the "conclusions" once never used the site again
      now im recommending everyone to stop using it or to never start using it

    • @fuzzylumpkins6034
      @fuzzylumpkins6034 2 часа назад

      UBM is a horrible misguided informercial for intel/nvidia. Amazing what buying a company can do. UBM rants about everysingle thing amd makes, even when 98% of the world raves about the 5800x3d and 7800x3d, UBM and his weirdo freak bias says they are trash lol

  • @gamerforlife7903
    @gamerforlife7903 14 часов назад +257

    They're literally giving bs justifications and reasons on their website to why EVERYONE in the PC gaming world is against them*, like "the whole world is stupid but not us we are definitely not biased against AMD 😊"

    • @rangersmith4652
      @rangersmith4652 13 часов назад +18

      A wise man once said, "If you look at the world and think everyone but you is crazy, it's not everyone else. It's you."

    •  13 часов назад

      They are so deep in their own ass that I bet they would find a reason why Celeron 450MHz is better than 7800X3D.

    • @FO0TMinecraftPVP
      @FO0TMinecraftPVP 12 часов назад +1

      Intel is still better than amd... People are indeed paid to promote amd

    • @demonizer6666
      @demonizer6666 12 часов назад +6

      ​@@FO0TMinecraftPVP🤣🤣🤣

    • @rangersmith4652
      @rangersmith4652 12 часов назад +12

      ​@@FO0TMinecraftPVP People buy CPUs for a wide range of use cases. Saying one maker is "better" than another is far too sweeping a generalization to be true.

  • @WaveSmash
    @WaveSmash 14 часов назад +212

    Those lines you opened with are... legitimately insane and genuinely very harmful to the PC gaming space. This website needs to be shut down or reformed. They are completely delusional.

    • @kaseyboles30
      @kaseyboles30 13 часов назад +17

      As much as I find their misinformation and clear crazy bias objectionable, the cure for false speech is truth. Censorship is horrid. Now If you said more warnings need to be made to tell folk about how messed up they are, that I agree with.

    • @enmanuel1950
      @enmanuel1950 13 часов назад +19

      They've been doing this (aka malding) since ryzen came out, probably even before that, although that's when i took notice.
      I doubt they will be forced to close anytime soon.

    • @subzero-ku2wx
      @subzero-ku2wx 13 часов назад +1

      ”needs to be shut down” 😂😂😂😂 wtf does this even mean?

    • @flimermithrandir
      @flimermithrandir 12 часов назад +13

      @@subzero-ku2wx It means the Site should not exist. Be gone.

    • @flimermithrandir
      @flimermithrandir 12 часов назад

      @@kaseyboles30 There are too many Random ppl out there you will never Reach that will make a Random Search and this Site will show up.
      They will run with it and not buy an AMD CPU because its terrible.

  • @delayed_control
    @delayed_control 14 часов назад +202

    Literally propaganda. Incredible.

    • @godnamedtay
      @godnamedtay 13 часов назад +2

      As opposed to every single gaming pc oriented RUclipsr channel out there??? 🤨

    • @whentheyD
      @whentheyD 13 часов назад +53

      ​@@godnamedtay usermenchbark alt?

    • @gersongaete1574
      @gersongaete1574 13 часов назад

      @@godnamedtay stop googling your own website to see how people react to you trash. Shut it down idiot, your website is the laughing stock of the pc community.

    • @Effect-Without-Cause
      @Effect-Without-Cause 13 часов назад +14

      @@whentheyD 100%

    • @evguenict
      @evguenict 12 часов назад +17

      @@godnamedtay so stating facts is propaganda for you ?

  • @Vartazian360
    @Vartazian360 14 часов назад +181

    It baffles me how google allows this crap to be number one hit after all these years.

    • @mikfhan
      @mikfhan 14 часов назад +12

      Yeah... live long enough to be the villain I guess... "Don't be evil" was their former motto, then "Alphabet" en$hittification happened.

    • @godnamedtay
      @godnamedtay 13 часов назад +1

      Their numbers are correct, tf u talking about

    • @TJones4L
      @TJones4L 13 часов назад +31

      @@godnamedtay Yeah, a 7900 GRE is for sure only 2% faster than a 4070

    • @Dazzxp
      @Dazzxp 13 часов назад +9

      Money, you can promote your website on google with money. It's not like Intel and nVidia don't do that, heck they have been to court for such practise and get slapped a relatively small fine that's peanuts to these companies. E.g Intel for their anti competition practices got fined $1.3 billion they protested it several times and ended up paying only $300 million. With this sort of crap and the damage they caused $300 million is nothing! So much so, that Intel still do it today, because why not?

    • @joonsong2917
      @joonsong2917 13 часов назад +16

      People still trust Google?

  • @KrisHandsome
    @KrisHandsome 14 часов назад +63

    lol I built a PC for the first time this year and even I as a total novice researching parts thought that site was a bit fishy based on its numbers. Watching Daniel, Hardware Unboxed, and PC Builder got my build looking right tho.

    • @lightest2385
      @lightest2385 12 часов назад +6

      Shoot you done em right at the time when I built mines I was watching a lot of jaytwocents scattervult and Linus all these pc guys are gems to the community

  • @Destrado_
    @Destrado_ 14 часов назад +55

    How do they show up so high on google search results? Their bias is borderline satire.

    • @ivantsipr
      @ivantsipr 13 часов назад +20

      Cause people click on it, the more clicks it gets the higher it shows on search results, the problem is 90%+ of those clicks are from people normies or new builders that don't know the site is 100% misinformation.

    • @Vizyouall
      @Vizyouall 8 часов назад +5

      They pay to be on top. It's no secret.

    • @GoalOrientedLifting
      @GoalOrientedLifting 6 часов назад +3

      Nearly all top spots are paid. No difference than brands paying for the ideal shelf in grocery stores

    • @dnakatomiuk
      @dnakatomiuk 4 часа назад

      ​@@VizyouallI knew they was I'm sure someone reported this but can't find it. Also they ask for a monthly fee

    • @despairdx
      @despairdx 3 часа назад

      Cause google is corrupted 🫵🏿

  • @georgiospappas
    @georgiospappas 14 часов назад +59

    this site needs to be reported and deleted.

    • @kaseyboles30
      @kaseyboles30 13 часов назад

      Reported to who? Afaik they are an independent site and there are truth police. Yes they're full of it and knowingly lying or delusional or a very long running joke. Delete sounds like censorship and cancel culture.

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 10 часов назад +3

      you know someone pays for this kind of crap, you know who is that compant¿y, you know how they operate, they sell snake oil
      report them is a waste of time.

    • @andynow-uu1mr
      @andynow-uu1mr 2 часа назад

      ​@@arch1107😂

  • @JomeFromWork
    @JomeFromWork 14 часов назад +65

    The faces you make while reading the blog at the start is hilarious and almost spill my coffee.

  • @Varil92
    @Varil92 14 часов назад +48

    Userbenchmark is a joke

  • @justaguy6216
    @justaguy6216 11 часов назад +24

    I was that person. I used user benchmark when I first started planning out my build. It was initially a intel 12th gen i5 with a 3070ti.
    Then I started watching reviews on RUclips,especially from the YT channel "Ancient Gameplays" who first clued me into user benchmark bullshit. Then I started watching gamers nexus and hardware unboxed.
    Ended up finally with a all AMD build 1 yr later with a r5 7600x and a rx6800xt.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 10 часов назад +2

      You ended up with all the bang for the buck while staying below "an actual furnace" in power consumption.

    • @Open6a-fx4qf
      @Open6a-fx4qf 9 часов назад +1

      It doesn’t matter you like intel or amd, what matters is we can’t lie ourselves if other brands has better performance since it only brings goods to market, industry, and us customers.

    • @Gab-e4w
      @Gab-e4w 8 часов назад +2

      the radeon 6800s are extremely good value and they run everything without breaking a sweat. Good choice

    • @justaguy6216
      @justaguy6216 8 часов назад

      @@Open6a-fx4qf Yeah exactly, I don't have any brand loyalty towards any of the mega tech companies, at the end of the day they're all there to screw you up. What matters is the price and the performance (for things important to you). Thats it.

    • @justaguy6216
      @justaguy6216 8 часов назад

      @@andersjjensen Haha yeah, tell me about it.
      Fr tho I had intel 12th gen in my PC list for a long time because the whole system was cheaper than ryzen 7000. The switch to AM5 was only a few weeks before purchase because I decided I rather have a system that can use the X3D chips so I can upgrade in the future.

  • @iamspencerx
    @iamspencerx 14 часов назад +67

    I wonder why they don't just say 14700 > 7800 therefore the 14700k is better because maths

    • @prima_ballerina
      @prima_ballerina 12 часов назад

      🤣

    • @boy-who-likes-bats
      @boy-who-likes-bats 11 часов назад +3

      the new core ultra stuff has smaller number 🫡

    • @davidmacfarlane4761
      @davidmacfarlane4761 6 часов назад

      Yes, Product name number benchmark is being added in the next update to User benchmark site.

    • @ulycination978
      @ulycination978 5 часов назад

      Steve would agree on that!

    • @e_Moses
      @e_Moses 5 часов назад

      14700 is clearly 88% better by that metric. We need to contact someone from the website to include this metric as well.

  • @corey2232
    @corey2232 13 часов назад +23

    It's a bummer too, as it would be genuinely useful to have a non biased version of a site like User Benchmark.

    • @enmanuel1950
      @enmanuel1950 13 часов назад +6

      Passmark, it's a lot less intuitive and uglier but at least their data seems to be unbiased.

    • @Osprey850
      @Osprey850 10 часов назад

      Versus and CPUbenchmark are both very similar to UserBenchmark. I use those, instead. Both tend to show up in google results when you search one CPU vs another. You just have to scroll down the results a little further.

    • @Osprey850
      @Osprey850 10 часов назад

      There's Versus and CPUBenchmark. They have similar data, though it's maybe not laid out as well. They usually show up in the top 15 or so results when you search one CPU versus another, just lower than UserBenchmark, obviously.

    • @PenPineappleApplePen007
      @PenPineappleApplePen007 10 часов назад

      I like their interface which is pretty good. An unbiased site with this interface would be great to have.

    • @Osprey850
      @Osprey850 10 часов назад

      Versus and CPUBenchmark don't have as nice of interfaces, but have similar side-by-side comparisons. They tend to show up in results a little lower.

  • @MajoraEXP
    @MajoraEXP 12 часов назад +21

    I like the idea of user benchmark, but i wish someone would create a website that does what it does without the crazy whack biases.

    • @RicochetForce
      @RicochetForce 12 часов назад +11

      That would be TechPowerUp, long time vets in the industry with an INSANE amount of testing data.

    • @MrKlaatu06
      @MrKlaatu06 8 часов назад

      @@RicochetForce No, TPU doesn't have nearly the user submitted database, and is still subject to editorial issues (just not nearly as bad)

    • @RicochetForce
      @RicochetForce 7 часов назад

      @@MrKlaatu06 TPU not having the user submitted database is a boon for the site, not a negative.
      Thanks like lambasting GamersNexus because they don't have a user submitted database.
      In this space the community has shown itself to be a massive liability that it's better to limit exposure to.

    • @tanmaypanadi1414
      @tanmaypanadi1414 7 часов назад

      ​@@MrKlaatu06 Anand tech had the actual professionals doing the reviews. But that gem of a resource is also closed.

    • @Lurch-Bot
      @Lurch-Bot 5 часов назад +2

      You mean like Passmark, 3D Mark, Furmark and TechPowerup?

  • @Heavyshield
    @Heavyshield 14 часов назад +46

    Userbenchmark has been meme for years, Every half competent guy is using it to laugh hard of this shill and cheater.

    • @dra6o0n
      @dra6o0n 13 часов назад

      Except he's probably making money off of ad revenues due to the listing on google and such.

  • @fatjawns3671
    @fatjawns3671 14 часов назад +47

    The 7800x3d at one point being $300 and seeing it as a $500 chip is insane

    • @darudesandstorm7002
      @darudesandstorm7002 13 часов назад +5

      Never heard of supply and demand?

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 13 часов назад +3

      Hot take. Supply and demand. And didn't they stop producing it?? I heard.

    • @Dazzxp
      @Dazzxp 13 часов назад +6

      stock is drying up making way for the 9800X3D or that's what is being said at the moment.

    • @IceNinja2007
      @IceNinja2007 13 часов назад +5

      ​@@onomatopoeia162003 Only the 5800X3D

    • @fatjawns3671
      @fatjawns3671 13 часов назад +1

      @@darudesandstorm7002 they’ve always been in demand though that’s my point. I think it doesn’t help that intel is completely fucking the turkey on their chips lately as well

  • @fffrrraannkk
    @fffrrraannkk 14 часов назад +39

    Userbenchmark has been like that for years. It's so strange. What did AMD do to them?

    • @syncmonism
      @syncmonism 13 часов назад +13

      I think Userbenchmark might actually be owned by Intel, or owned by a company which Intel has part ownership of, or something like that.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 13 часов назад +11

      They had a stroke since Ryzen release I imagine lol

    • @IndyMiraaga
      @IndyMiraaga 12 часов назад +21

      ​@@syncmonismIntel generally seems to want nothing to do with them, they've neglected to sponsor them this entire time. Intel isn't always the most honest (neither is the competition) but they don't want to be associated with lunacy either.

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 10 часов назад

      you know who pays here, they sell snake oil too

    • @arch1107
      @arch1107 10 часов назад

      @@IndyMiraaga a company who said that dell is trhe best friend money can buy will say whatever they can to keep this going

  • @alpcantopcu
    @alpcantopcu 14 часов назад +15

    Seems like they are intel fanboys who got burned from the intel chip frying situation

    • @adstagaming
      @adstagaming 14 часов назад +19

      Nah, it's been there for a while.

    • @ludwigvanbeethoven8164
      @ludwigvanbeethoven8164 14 часов назад +2

      paid out. if not it makes their foolishness more humiliating

    • @doooodeh
      @doooodeh 14 часов назад +16

      Even official Intel PR/marketing and community managing teams cut off owner of userbenchmark, he apparently got banned everywhere long time ago. That guy is legit mentally ill lmao hes not even Intel shill dudes just a weirdo with insanely deep hate towards AMD for some reason.

    • @paulustrucenus
      @paulustrucenus 14 часов назад +6

      ​@@doooodeh"Because AMD killed my grandma ok ?"
      -this dude ig

    • @EpicBunty
      @EpicBunty 4 часа назад

      @@ludwigvanbeethoven8164 100% paid off. no other explanation for it.

  • @SamOnKBD
    @SamOnKBD 14 часов назад +19

    Yeah, I was hearing some people discuss building a PC before a college lecture, and they were talking about how they were using UserBenchmark to figure out which CPU to get. I didn't know any of those guys and didn't chime in, but agree that it is a big problem and a lot of normies (aka people who aren't weird and play pc part picker simulator 10 hours per day) are probably ending up there instead of good resources.

  • @Zoomborg
    @Zoomborg 13 часов назад +8

    According to userbenchmar you should get a 9700k instead of 7800x 3d. It scores more old points and the x3d V cache is powered by AMD's evil and arrogance.

  • @Yinco1
    @Yinco1 14 часов назад +15

    I had blocked that site from my browser years ago.

    • @lexavaritia7596
      @lexavaritia7596 10 часов назад +1

      Hello could you tell how
      Literally need it for every new gen that comes one to filter the result

    • @despairdx
      @despairdx 3 часа назад

      How to block?
      Can u enlighten all the viewers that come across ur comment?🫵🏿

  • @flamingscar5263
    @flamingscar5263 11 часов назад +4

    Fun fact, even Intel hates user benchmark and refuses to give them review samples of their CPUs
    Why do they do this?

  • @darkocakic1488
    @darkocakic1488 13 часов назад +9

    UserBenchmark is basically Homer Simpson meme come to life. "Boy... everyone is stupid except me!"

  • @ochitokes
    @ochitokes 14 часов назад +20

    UserBenchmark need to look at some benchmarks 🤣

  • @Theendgamelv3
    @Theendgamelv3 14 часов назад +29

    Gonna be honest, I hate the fact that RUclipsrs have to do stupid faces for thumbnails cause of the algorithm, but "concerned Daniel face" is just hilarious to look at lol.

    • @_jn0298
      @_jn0298 13 часов назад +4

      I got tired of it and installed an extension that just put a frame of the video, is called "Clickbait Remover for RUclips"

    • @Csimon2429
      @Csimon2429 12 часов назад

      The worst offender is that PC Centric RUclipsr from the UK. OMG he's annoying and has the most annoying thumbnails. In every Thumbnail he looks like a overly forced smiling Where's Waldo.

    • @thomasisready
      @thomasisready 12 часов назад

      ​@@_jn0298 DeArrow also lets users submit custom titles for videos to make them less clickbaity and more descriptive together with picking a frame for the thumbnail, i definitely clicked on some videos i wouldn't have otherwise thanks to that

  • @lessthanlogical
    @lessthanlogical 14 часов назад +11

    I believed Daniel was an evil overloard ,bent on destroying my childhood dreams.For at least 3 seconds.

  • @RighteousBruce
    @RighteousBruce 14 часов назад +8

    Hey user benchmark, Intel E cores are garbage mate.

  • @MMBaconslice
    @MMBaconslice 14 часов назад +17

    I am always wary of the "The"

    • @kosmosyche
      @kosmosyche 13 часов назад +2

      Never liked The. The is a bad guy.

  • @PKZEL
    @PKZEL 10 часов назад +3

    UserBenchmark is like a Reddit moderator's dream review site. The smugness, the reaching, the bloat of useless information, it's just a Reddit replier.

  • @flatfish-d9o
    @flatfish-d9o 14 часов назад +23

    Once again here to request a look at the history of generational GPU price:performance improvement over the years 🙏

    • @HoneyTwee
      @HoneyTwee 14 часов назад +3

      GPU price: performance improvement?
      It's gotten worse.

    • @enmanuel1950
      @enmanuel1950 13 часов назад +3

      Hardware unboxed basically already made that video. Although it was only about Nvidia GPUs.

    • @WeatherMan2005
      @WeatherMan2005 6 часов назад

      @@HoneyTwee i wanted to comment that lol

  • @DeeDee.Ranged
    @DeeDee.Ranged 14 часов назад +5

    About 10 years ago I went to that website and knew straightaway the numbers were all bs.

    • @Steelninja77
      @Steelninja77 13 часов назад

      Same here bro. I always go looking elsewhere for my GPU comparisons. I want an actual valid comparison so I can make a good judgement not based on bullshi7.

  • @HasanAslan
    @HasanAslan 14 часов назад +19

    that website is a joke, I don't think there is anyone left who doesn't know this.

    • @ivantsipr
      @ivantsipr 14 часов назад +37

      There are. A lot . Normies and first timers think is an actual reputable review site, is a huge problem.

    • @crossdaboss8914
      @crossdaboss8914 13 часов назад +4

      Me I'm new to building pc built my first one this year I didn't know they wasn't good doesn't help its the top search result when asking about what is the performance difference between 2 parts

    • @franciscoriccio51
      @franciscoriccio51 13 часов назад +1

      I kinda did when buying my first laptop 3 years ago.

    • @kaecatlady
      @kaecatlady 8 часов назад

      Oh, I expect there are a LOT of people who don't realize how tremendously biased UserBenchmark is against AMD.
      I honest-to-god had no idea how biased UserBenchmark was (used it for years as a way to define how "good" my computer was), until I decided to replace one of my very old intel computers by building one that had a Ryzen 3600 CPU. Mind, I'd been periodically building my own PC's for years by then.
      The numbers I got for my Ryzen build, according to UserBenchmark, were so insanely awful, even my amateur behind knew something was "off" about them. Checked around at that point, and finally realized that UserBenchmark had a serious bias against AMD and Ryzen products, and I haven't trusted them since.
      But that was years after I began putting together my own computers, which had always been Intel/Nvidia builds.

  • @hoyle038
    @hoyle038 12 часов назад +2

    User Benchmark has been failing for over a decade now. They are EXTREMELY BIAS.....

  • @VIKclips
    @VIKclips 14 часов назад +13

    user benchmarks are so bad, I didn't even have to go and see what people say about them, I myself realized the website is absolute shit.

  • @LichtVoltere
    @LichtVoltere 13 часов назад +5

    I agree man, userbenchmark is just a bunch of liars LMAO

  • @jackali5014
    @jackali5014 14 часов назад +3

    I'm so glad I didn't care about that shitty website before. I always watch videos for CPU and GPU comparison, at least 3 videos.

  • @dabrovsky2293
    @dabrovsky2293 12 часов назад +2

    They should add columns on how good looking was the box it comes in and how many bicep curls you can do with this specific hardware.

  • @ttubebaby
    @ttubebaby 14 часов назад +21

    But Daniel, how else will I know how much eFPS I'm getting?

  • @paulorodriguez6288
    @paulorodriguez6288 14 часов назад +14

    why would anybody trust some website over actual youtube videos showing you actual the gaming benchmarks for the part you want to buy?

    • @parlor3115
      @parlor3115 13 часов назад +5

      Most don't know game benchmark videos are a thing.

    • @ivantsipr
      @ivantsipr 13 часов назад +7

      Cause they don't want to sit and watch a 10 min video. They click the first Google result, see the numbers and fancy graphs ("oh the 13600k is better than the 7800x3d, cool") close the browser, they are done.

    • @syncmonism
      @syncmonism 13 часов назад

      Some websites are very reputable. Anandtech was great, but it's shutting down. You can still access previously published articles from it though. It's a fantastic resource.
      Techpowerup is pretty good. This channel often uses Techpowerup data for reference.

  • @rcvillapando
    @rcvillapando 13 часов назад +16

    UserBenchmark is Fox News of the computer enthusiast world.

    • @gersongaete1574
      @gersongaete1574 13 часов назад +4

      more like CNN

    • @IndyMiraaga
      @IndyMiraaga 12 часов назад +3

      ​@@gersongaete1574"No, this equally-biased source is the worse one!"

    • @joelman1989
      @joelman1989 7 часов назад

      @@gersongaete1574CNN is bad. It’s not Fax news bad tho.

    • @chrissoclone
      @chrissoclone 4 часа назад

      @@IndyMiraaga Insert Ground News ad here.

    • @Sadler2010
      @Sadler2010 4 часа назад

      You get FOX News name outta your mouth!!! they don't deserve being equated with User BenchBork...

  • @Valthalin
    @Valthalin 7 часов назад +1

    It did not take me long after reading the comments in that website a while ago to realize a certain level of what I perceive as bias (to be polite) integral to the website. Certainly avoid it entirely if you are looking into PCs. 110% agree with Mr Owen on this topic. Great to see someone pointing out one of the pitfalls out there for those looking to build a system or evaluate component purchases.

  • @seeibe
    @seeibe 14 часов назад +5

    Intel can't afford real writers anywhere so UserBenchmark is now written by chatgpt

    • @Dazzxp
      @Dazzxp 13 часов назад +2

      I don't think chatgpt can be that unhinged lol

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 9 часов назад

      Intel got rectum reamed really really badly in an FTC anti-trust lawsuit about 20 years ago, precisely on the grounds of manipulating the benchmark software used by a popular review site (the site was partly owned by Intel via shell companies). Intel was forced to write "Benchmarks are not indicative of real world performance and may be skewed by choice of compiler vendor for the benchmark in question" (or some such) in fairly large letters at the bottom of every single marketing slide featuring software for 15 years straight. Previously Intel sold compiler licenses to everyone.... after that shit show Microsoft scooped up that market.
      TL;DR: Intel still has nightmares about about it, which is why they avoid UB like the plague. They block them on all their community pages, and I wouldn't be surprised if their e-mail server automatically bounce every e-mail from them with an error message. And I say this as an AMD "fanboi".

    • @seeibe
      @seeibe 5 часов назад +1

      @andersjjensen That's not how any of that works. The ruling class have had decades to figure out ways to cover their traces when it comes to spending money on influencing public opinion.

    • @EpicBunty
      @EpicBunty 4 часа назад

      @@andersjjensen ofc they are behind UB. criminals like these big companies don't just "reform", they only learn to hide their tracks better.

  • @chiyolate
    @chiyolate 3 часа назад +1

    14700K scores 33.5k in Cinebench R23
    7800X3D scores 17.7k in Cinebench R23
    That 14700K is 89% faster in every other use other than gaming
    I don't know why you pick this comparison to make your point, Daniel.
    14700K is the clear logical winner here unless all you do in life is just to play game at 10fps higher than intel users.

    • @exception6651
      @exception6651 Час назад +1

      The way people talk about cpus these days you would think everyone only uses their pc to play games at 1080p low settings.

    • @georgwarhead2801
      @georgwarhead2801 34 минуты назад

      do you work for userbenchmark? just because it scores higher in cinebench doesnt mean, its 89% faster in everything else....be happy with your higher "64-core" score (whatever that means)

  • @mikoalt
    @mikoalt 14 часов назад +4

    I remember 2kliksphilip made a video on userbenchmark and what a clown show the reviews were. Funny to see they're still the same haha

  • @acidgaming0
    @acidgaming0 13 часов назад +2

    It‘s really a shame, because the concept of the page really is great. Why do they ruin it with their BS?

  • @lexavaritia7596
    @lexavaritia7596 10 часов назад +6

    Where is the part that 14th gen is literally degrading itself to get parity on performance 😂

  • @Pinkfloydeasye187
    @Pinkfloydeasye187 13 часов назад +1

    Thank you for this I never knew that every time I searched a comparison two parts user benchmark pops up and I always use it because I didn't know they were biased thank you.

  • @RaccChannel
    @RaccChannel 11 часов назад +4

    Enjoyed the content of the video, but if your main reason of releasing this is to "Inform people about it" please consider putting the topic SOMEWHERE in your title or thumbnail.
    I get playing the algo game but not including the content of your information in either place and claiming to want to inform people about this sits oddly. It could be as simple as putting "Userbenchmark" anywhere in the thumbnail instead of just generic flames.

    • @EpicBunty
      @EpicBunty 4 часа назад

      as someone who uses the DeArrow extension, I did not even notice it! they automatically change the titles to include the relevant information! One of the best extensions, along with sponsorblock, and untrap for youtube!! big recommend!

  • @hoyle038
    @hoyle038 11 часов назад +1

    Thank you for calling them out, Gamers Nexus did the same thing a couple of years ago.

  • @HurricaneSparky
    @HurricaneSparky 14 часов назад +8

    UserBenchmark is just The Onion for component reviews.

  • @blazingCFC
    @blazingCFC 13 часов назад +1

    4:18 I think companies and websites may have other ways to get to the top of the google search results, besides relying on click count exclusively.

  • @onlysaying-b52
    @onlysaying-b52 14 часов назад +3

    LoserBenchmark.

  • @TheBeastsHere
    @TheBeastsHere Час назад

    What's even worse is that it's not even free anymore, to even attempt the basic benchmark it say's you now need to upgrade to premium which is a bummer.

  • @StygiusNix
    @StygiusNix 14 часов назад +3

    UserBenchmark
    kek

  • @JGComments
    @JGComments 12 часов назад +1

    $480??? I’m so glad I upgraded 8 months ago.

  • @8bitbunny_VR
    @8bitbunny_VR 14 часов назад +3

    oh loserbenchmark. theyre useless lol

  • @jedadiahtucker2132
    @jedadiahtucker2132 13 часов назад

    I'm actually glad you made this. I've used it a lot but never really looked into it. i saw the bias in the conclusions. I assumed because of the name the numbers where based on the user bench marks. so i thought as long as i just look at the numbers i'm good. never thought to see if they where injecting useless metrics to skew the results. like really age, market share, user ratings, who cares show me the performance. some results i knew where off but just didn't think nafariously so

  • @Riyozsu
    @Riyozsu 4 часа назад +1

    The reason why Userbenchmarks hates 7800x3d and prefers 14700k is 7800x3 = 23400 and 14700k is same as 14700000 so bigger number means better is their most advanced test.

  • @derrickm9808
    @derrickm9808 11 часов назад

    Thank you for the heads up Daniel and it's probably a good idea keep an eye open for misleading stuff in general for tech or life.

  • @mleise8292
    @mleise8292 14 часов назад +1

    Ha! I expected a talk about how bad it is to pair entry level GPUs with a 7800X3D, not another UserBenchmark roast. But your voice-over was hilarious. 😋

  • @tanthokg
    @tanthokg Час назад

    This was called out ages ago, what's funny is that multiple youtube channels talked about this, and that 7800X3D "totally unbiased review" is still there. New people building their very first PC should/must be aware of this maidenless behavior.

  • @ElliottAlderDraco
    @ElliottAlderDraco 8 часов назад

    I used User Benchmark to help me purchase my new PC for its graphics card. I also used your video on Black Myth Wukong. I also used other videos, but thank you for being reputable for the gaming community members.
    If User Benchmark is truly this bad, then a class action lawsuit is not too far behind. I wish Game Debate was still running. I really liked them and their community. It was built to help, remove unwanted comments, and was surrounded by people who knew what they were talking about. It then just stopped a couple years ago.

  • @ivantsipr
    @ivantsipr 13 часов назад +1

    Sadly is a huge problem since normies understanding is that the first google search result is the best one and should be trusted also normies dont read the paragraph, they look at the numbers and fancy graphs and they are done, so they never realize they are reading outright lies.

  • @tonymerasty
    @tonymerasty 14 часов назад +2

    just a monetized grasp for more influencer $$ but not from a youtube platform relevancy thanks daniel you have the focus of what is needed for a pc's components

  • @walter1824
    @walter1824 13 часов назад +1

    Google should do something about those search results, they have no business showing up first. Write them complaints

    • @Nareimooncatt
      @Nareimooncatt 11 часов назад

      When you see that happen, click the option button next to the result and write the complaint yourself. It's already been working to some extent because it now lists the site as controversial and is no longer the top result for me.

    • @walter1824
      @walter1824 3 часа назад

      @@Nareimooncatt I have written them more than once, I thought it didn`t work

  • @Ulster-Fry-777
    @Ulster-Fry-777 13 часов назад

    thankyou. im not tech savvy in this field and was until now, a user benchmark user. my eyes are now open.

  • @TheTyfreeman
    @TheTyfreeman 5 часов назад

    Early in learning about pcs I always used user benchmark. Then, after comparing cpu and gpu benchmarks from youtubers like you, I noticed a big discrepancy. Love to see videos like this. I felt discouraged after my first build being ryzen and looking at their comparisons. Great video my doooooood!

  • @ryanespinoza7297
    @ryanespinoza7297 13 часов назад

    I was concerned when I saw the thumbnail until the first frame I saw UBM in the background. Instant relief

  • @semtexxl4023
    @semtexxl4023 14 минут назад

    This site should be labeled as actual misinformation and EXCLUDED from any search. This word is so overused nowdays especially if you are simply with disagreement with someone but this time it's the real deal.

  • @Fin1nishingMove
    @Fin1nishingMove 12 часов назад +1

    But if a garbage website says something that is true, and you make the mistake of discarding it just because they were the ones who said so, then you lack critical thinking.

  • @avocado840
    @avocado840 13 часов назад +1

    User benchmark is just a joke, I have never take them seriously

  • @garydterhune8392
    @garydterhune8392 12 часов назад

    I am glad you are calling this site out. I personally do not use their rating system. They are clearly biased toward Intel/Nvidia

  • @Alice.59
    @Alice.59 Час назад +1

    At this point I still don't understand why AMD don't go after them, they are clearly hurting the brand in a dishonest way by making false claims, this is totally illegal

  • @CrashD6
    @CrashD6 13 часов назад +2

    Userwenchbark swears to God that a RTX 3050 is in the same league as the RX 6600, what an absolute joke xD

  • @edzymods
    @edzymods Час назад

    The industry should come together and create a non biased version of user benchmark, and call it "true benchmark".

  • @argasasrgetthe9032
    @argasasrgetthe9032 13 часов назад +1

    i already knew userbenchmark was garbage like 8 years ago. I guess they haven't changed.

  • @Generic_Ninja
    @Generic_Ninja 13 часов назад

    The real shame is the usefulness of the actual benchmarking tool as a diagnostic to ensure that your system is performing as it should. It tests CPU/GPU/Memory/Storage against others of the exact same model in there database and shows where your individual parts are performing in relation. It can often reveal a configuration error or hardware problem, or reassure you that everything is functioning as it should. Too bad the site is such garbage.

  • @ogm19881
    @ogm19881 9 часов назад

    I never use userbench marks. They've always seem to have biased results. I prefer amalgamating several different reviews and performance numbers, then making a decision.

  • @anthonydaughthoracha1290
    @anthonydaughthoracha1290 13 часов назад +2

    These clowns need to be benchmarked by youtubers and see how it feels

  • @MJ-ge6jz
    @MJ-ge6jz 12 часов назад

    When I am about to purchase hardware for a gaming system I use multiple sources and look for congruence.

  • @namcojr
    @namcojr 14 часов назад +2

    Great site, HUGE wasted potential because of so much worthless information and bias.

  • @joshlewis8860
    @joshlewis8860 12 часов назад

    Yeah, I found myself on user benchmark when looking for what graphics card to buy. Just like in this video, I found myself reading a huge block of text that seemed to contradict itself of absolutely belittle the part I was looking to buy like it was personal or something. 😂
    Then I scrolled back up and saw the thing about “Why do RUclipsrs not promote us?” and put the pieces things together lol

  • @paran0ia7
    @paran0ia7 3 часа назад

    Honestly I've thought for a long time that Valve ought to try their hand at a hardware comparison system like this integrated into Steam.
    Have participation be opt-in and anonymous, obviously, but the amount of per-game performance data across every hardware combination imaginable that they could potentially compile and make available would be ridiculous; and make sites like UserBenchmark irrelevant almost immediately. Better still, developers could utilize it to better identify and address unexpected issues with very specific configurations they couldn't test internally, and the "minimum/recommended specs" section of a game's store page could update over time to reflect the performance of actual players; maybe even giving a rough performance estimate based on your own exact system, further incentivizing devs to take optimization seriously.
    Would be a TON of work on Valve's end of course, but I suspect they could pull it off better and more easily than basically anyone if they wanted to.

  • @Hoigwai
    @Hoigwai 3 часа назад

    Sometimes newer isn't better, in fact, it has been an issue more than once for something new to be problematic in some way.
    I have only a few sources for trusted data. You are one of them.

  • @ESPSJ
    @ESPSJ 11 часов назад

    I noticed this actually. I'm trying to do research to build a PC but I found their website wasn't actually helpful at all. I think RUclips benchmark videos are way more reliable. The type of language they're using when talking about 7800x3d pretty much sums up what type of person they are.

  • @metalsquid
    @metalsquid 2 часа назад

    You can tell that site owner is a few sandwiches short of a picnic just by looking at that animated gif from 1990s web design. Utter madlad.

  • @intox69
    @intox69 9 часов назад

    I'd hope people "Researching" parts performance would check more than a single source for information.

  • @IHazPeppers
    @IHazPeppers 5 часов назад

    Next move; someone make a better, unbiased version of this site and leave this biased website in the dust.

  • @Andy76swe
    @Andy76swe 9 часов назад

    Every computer parts vendor should warn their customers about this garbo site

  • @Nianfur
    @Nianfur 14 часов назад +1

    Makes you wonder who owns user benchmark. Why is it at the top? Intel + NVIDIA?

    • @darudesandstorm7002
      @darudesandstorm7002 13 часов назад

      More likely it's some schizo with a chip on their shoulder.

  • @ckling217
    @ckling217 7 часов назад +1

    I'm sure Rolls Royce has a much smaller market share than Hyundai. But, I doubt anybody thinks Hyundai makes a better car than Rolls Royce.

  • @QwoaX
    @QwoaX 2 часа назад +1

    I miss gpuboss and cpuboss...

  • @heybos4640
    @heybos4640 14 часов назад +1

    If we ever get an alternative, we should call it UserBemchingmark

  • @CrashPilot1000
    @CrashPilot1000 7 часов назад

    I tried it out after years and it has become a sh*t show with that cheesy game in the beginning for the free version. Back in the day I was helping out a clan and sometimes online troubleshooting their PCs and userbenchmark was nifty because the other guy could run it and send you the link to the results and you could see what component was the problem, if the PC was complete trash or if he just had too many background tasks running. Well, these times are over. RIP Userbenchmark.

  • @mikecheckmike
    @mikecheckmike 12 часов назад

    As an overthinker, and someone who can’t make easy decisions without extensive research, I can fully confirm that userbenchmark is an absolutely useless comparison tool.