PCSX2 Emulation Vs Real PS2 Hardware (2024 Edition) - Affro's Curiosities EX

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
  • Today, I revisit PS2 emulation by testing out the newest version of PCSX2 & pit it against real PS2 hardware to see how far emulation has come & what results you can expect when using 4K resolution!
    See the results for yourself!
    (Note - All games tested are PAL versions!)
    Main Channel - / @theaffroshowgameplay
    AetherSX2 Emulation - • AetherSX2 Emulation Vs...
    Chapters -
    0:00 - Start
    0:09 - PCSX2 Revisit, Settings Used & Real Hardware Output
    1:21 - Gran Turismo 4 (576i)
    2:38 - Valkyrie Profile 2 (576i)
    3:56 - Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix (480p)
    5:09 - Zone Of The Enders: The 2nd Runner (576i)
    6:03 - Colin McRae Rally 04 (576i)
    6:50 - DBZ Budokai 3 (576i)
    7:32 - Need For Speed: Most Wanted (576i)
    8:48 - Tekken 3 Via Tekken 5 (480i)
    9:39 - Tekken 4 (480p)
    10:19 - WRC 3 (576i)
    11:21 - Soulcalibur II (480p)
    12:00 - Soulcalibur III (480i)
    12:45 - Outro & Conclusion
    #affroscuriosities #playstation #pcsx2
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  • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
    @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  13 дней назад +28

    Here's an updated look at PCSX2 emulation against real PS2 hardware! Being an EX episode, this is not in depth as normal but still should do the job!
    (Edit: Many, many people are asking me about the background music starting from 01:22! The song is called Barham Battlefield and comes from Zone Of The Enders: The 2nd Runner!
    Also beware of RUclips's Stable Volume feature, if the audio sounds odd please turn it off for the original sound mix as intended!)

  • @J0rdan912
    @J0rdan912 13 дней назад +86

    I'm just happy that PCSX2 finally made it possible (almost) to run games in software mode in it's original form

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  13 дней назад +16

      It is so much better now and a good number of games run nicely using software mode :)

    • @matsunami
      @matsunami 12 дней назад +10

      I prefer software mode to upscaling in most games. I don't like what upscaling does to to games and like things playing closer to the original format. However, 2D games look phenomenal in 4k.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  12 дней назад +4

      @@matsunami I agree with you, when I use emulation I use software mode where possible :)

    • @BigBoiUltra3741
      @BigBoiUltra3741 9 дней назад +6

      Just imagine how good they really get when a ps2 static recompiler becomes available

    • @saidevpappu
      @saidevpappu 9 дней назад

      but in software mode always shows black screen to me

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 12 дней назад +47

    I recommend people run the nightly version of PCSX2 since it has a lot of game fixes and a self updater.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  12 дней назад +12

      This was using the Nightly version of PCSX2 :)

    • @Preludedraw
      @Preludedraw 11 дней назад

      Definitely but too much effort to use cheat engine on it or i'm too dumb. Seriously, no time to grind stuffs, just wanna experience the stories.

    • @cemsengul16
      @cemsengul16 11 дней назад +3

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Oh I couldn't tell because this is the mac version. I game on the Windows one.

    • @cemsengul16
      @cemsengul16 11 дней назад +5

      @@Preludedraw pnach cheats are super easy to use. I'm just like you, I hate the pointless grind some games had back in the day. I am actually replaying games from my childhood that I didn't have the patience for back then and finishing them now. So every once in a while if I can't defeat a boss regardless of how many times I try, I will just enable an infinite health cheat and then disable it right after the battle, I am just into the stories.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  11 дней назад +1

      Ah both are similar now in how they work thankfully :)

  • @bpcgos
    @bpcgos 9 дней назад +16

    Thank to mr sujano for pointing out to this awesome channel and thanks to you for making this awesome comparison...👍🏽

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад +1

      I appreciate this & thank you for the kind words :) Also thank you to Mr Sujano! I hope that I can continue on this path!

  • @waxcutter9813
    @waxcutter9813 9 дней назад +14

    I want to note, it may not have fixed it here but I wouldn't use the same settings for every game if you're having issues like in valkyrie. The PCSX2 wiki has a listing for each game generally that contains specific config requirements in case a game needs it. I think it'd be a better representation. Good video!

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад

      Oh I know, I even said in the video during the game that I believed the settings could be changed or even fixed if you take the time to look but I like to see how the same settings affect the games :)
      Sadly I don't have time to show every setting combination possible so as I always say, try it yourself and see what works :)

  • @AlphaProto
    @AlphaProto 13 дней назад +16

    Good information. I don't use emulators often, but this is going to come in handy.
    Makes some of these games look a generation ahead.

  • @DebugOctopus
    @DebugOctopus 9 дней назад +26

    Hello from Mr. Sujano's channel

  • @byssmal
    @byssmal 8 дней назад +6

    I remembered playing ff12 in pcsx2 32bit back then with many performance and graphical issues. Now, the latest version of the emulator was improved significantly and upscaling made the game looks amazing with stable fps/speed and no graphical bugs. It's amazing that Stenzek contributed and improved pcsx2 a lot in just couple of years.

  • @FBHI
    @FBHI 10 дней назад +12

    This makes me wonder even more on why big companies like Capcom doesn't want to release new games from classic franchises like Rival Schools with a PS2 4k graphics just like Tekken 4 and the Soul Caliburs displayed on this video...

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  10 дней назад +4

      Sadly, many reasons :0
      Money, time, audience, etc...
      Plus some companies just don't want our money I guess...

  • @SRC267
    @SRC267 11 дней назад +6

    Found this channel from my recommendations, algorithm in full swing.

  • @antonio_carvalho
    @antonio_carvalho 10 дней назад +4

    Love these comparisons! Keep up the great work 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @jsr734
    @jsr734 11 дней назад +4

    Grant Turismo 4 is missing all the post processing effects like the depth of field effect. Also, didn´t Soul Calibur 3 support 480p? or it was removed from the PAL release?

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  11 дней назад +1

      Yes, I mentioned it was missing some effects during the replays (not sure if it was missing any in gameplay but I bet it was) & yes, Soulcalibur III did have 480p but only in NTSC releases :)
      My PAL copy has only 50 or 60hz support, no 480p :)
      Gran Turismo 4 is the same, no 480p or 1080i in the PAL version :o

  • @Manic_Panic
    @Manic_Panic 8 дней назад +6

    Something people don't talk about often is that under software mode, duckstation, pcsx2 and ppsspp offer 99% compatibility with no issues these days and you can use a dualshock 3 for pressure sensitive controls. The RPCS3 equivalent of that would be "Strict Rendering Mode" but that emulator still in the ~69% compatibility. We're not far from being able to have a "fully backwards compatible PS3" inside our PCs.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  8 дней назад +1

      Emulation has come along way & it is always incredible to see software leap forward every few months or so :)
      The retro community doing what Sony & other big video game companies can't :)

    • @muchossaugus9927
      @muchossaugus9927 5 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial They could but there would be no money in that and they are too busy shutting down emulators and rom websites.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад

      We can't have nice things for long can we? Shame they won't offer good retro game services instead, that would be the easiest solution!

    • @AdriHime
      @AdriHime 20 часов назад +1

      unfortunately even software render doesn't fix everything, for example the current PCSX2 nightly build has a visual issue in God of War 2 that makes the wind tunnels not render correctly in the Dark Rider sequence, during his second sequence there is a white wall covering the island of creation.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  6 часов назад

      This is correct & that is why there's still work to be done on this emulator but, it is in a much, much better state than ever before :)

  • @SleepyMortal
    @SleepyMortal 9 дней назад +3

    Didn't expect someone who also playing Cel Damage Overdrive. Good video!

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  8 дней назад

      It was a PAL exclusive for the PS2 and I was lucky to have mine from 2003! Still works 21 years later :)

  • @tamodolo
    @tamodolo 10 дней назад +3

    Nightly version fixed a lot of Valkyrie Profile 2 graphic glitches including the red filter problem. Some depth of field problems still are present though...

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  10 дней назад

      This is the nightly build of PCSX2 :) It is the Mac version so, perhaps the Windows version is ahead or works differently :)

  • @dottyorb
    @dottyorb 2 дня назад +1

    Which version of PCSX2 did you use for the Video? The Stable (1.6.x) builds or the nightly (1.7.x) builds?

  • @SK91NO
    @SK91NO 9 дней назад +4

    PCSX2 just pushed an update that fixed a lot of the bloom rendering in games like Valkyrie Profile 2 at higher resolutions

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад

      That might be for the Windows version, this was using the Mac nightly build :)
      Had a few comments saying this now so maybe the Mac version will get the same fixes very soon :)

  • @03chrisv
    @03chrisv 10 дней назад +6

    Good video, though I personally prefer playing most games on original PS2 hardware connected to a CRT TV via s-video/component video. PS2 era games were not designed for 4k resolution on a LCD/OLED display so they look pretty terrible IMO when texture and geometry flaws are so readily sharp and clear to see. CRT TVs do a great job hiding the shortcomings of those games, not to mention devs leveraged the fact that CRTs have a natural anti-aliasing effect. I recently emulated Resident Evil Code Veronica and Silent Hill 2 and they looked terrible at 4k on my OLED TV, though on my CRT running on native hardware, they still hold up, especially Silent Hill 2 with its more gritty artstyle, it still looks beautiful even today.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  10 дней назад

      It's quite interesting because I actually do not mind seeing the image flaws using my OSSC on my 4K as I love the sharp look of RGB SCART, S-Video or Component video but, I understand the thoughts and as I tell everyone, we can all play as we wish thankfully :)

    • @03chrisv
      @03chrisv 9 дней назад +4

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial I can understand that, some people really love having a sharp clean image. My only issue is that the artists and 3D modelers never intended for the game to be viewed at such high resolutions and purposefully designed the assets around the strengths and weaknesses of a CRT TV so it tends to break the visual makeup for me when viewed with modern displays and conventions. PS2 games for example look more visually and technically impressive when viewed on an era appropriate CRT TV vs upscaled to 4k on a modern TV.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад

      Hmmmm I don't know xD
      I agree they were made with CRT's in mind no doubt but most people say you must use composite video :)
      Try a CRT with S-Video or even RGB and wow!
      Also, I always ask, if they were made with composite in mind, why do the consoles support other cable types?
      I feel RGB or S-Video was the intended look but composite was the most common and they had to keep this in mind at the time in my opinion but however you play or display retro games, as long as you have fun and enjoy what you see, it is a win win for everyone :)

    • @03chrisv
      @03chrisv 9 дней назад +2

      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Most people only had access to composite video so they simply didn't know better. S-video was superior due to better signal separation which made the image look its best within the confines of 480i resolution (which is the key here). Regardless if someone played with an RF connection, composite, or s-video the resolution was always 480i. Emulation, on the other hand takes the original source that was intended for 480i on a CRT and upscales it to resolutions never intended on displays that it was not designed for.
      Of course if people are happy playing that way it's fine, everyone has their preferences, but to me the textures, models and the effects of PS2 games simply don't hold up when played that way. Maybe 2D sprite games fair better, or simplistic cel shaded 3D games don't look that bad, but most other games do IMO.

    • @ojmachine9545
      @ojmachine9545 9 дней назад +1

      i personally dont worry about the intention of someone around 20 years ago in this media because art is subjective. i have a crt and ps2 with component out. i still run emulation for slower paced games like rpgs that dont need better latency or streaming since compatibility with my set up is more desirable.

  • @mentalhell4846
    @mentalhell4846 5 дней назад +1

    I wish the devs include bump mapping/normal mapping shader in the future revisions. That'd be great and game changer.

  • @PseudoWounds
    @PseudoWounds 7 дней назад +3

    Wonderful video, emulation is such a blessing

  • @nrg753
    @nrg753 9 дней назад +2

    Great video! Are some of the missing effects from using the Metal API? Looks great to my eyes though!

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  8 дней назад +1

      I think it is a hardware rendering problem, same thing happens with OpenGL & Vulcan :)
      Only software mode restores the effects :)

  • @PoisonX7
    @PoisonX7 10 дней назад +1

    so u was using ps2 to scar cable or componets and then add mclassic? also if you only do a passthrough ossc will do noting to the game grapics

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад +1

      No :)
      I was using an RGB SCART cable on my PS2 to my OSSC when then went to my capture card :)
      The OSSC most of the time was in passthrough mode for interlaced content so I used my capture software OBS to deinterlace the image :)
      In 480p progressive scan games my OSSC was at line 2x mode, doubling the output to 960p for sharper results :)
      I do not own or use the Mclassic at all :)
      I prefer passthrough with interlaced content because it looks better, makes it easier to capture a screen shot and the OSSC's bob deinterlacing technique isn't my favourite :)

    • @PoisonX7
      @PoisonX7 9 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial ohh oks , "ossc + mclassic" or "kaiko ps1/ps2 x2 lines + mclassic" helps old consoles for bether image, not as good as emu but close to it

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад +1

      I'm not a fan of the Mclassic & I much prefer a sharp look to my games but, this is just my preference :)

  • @BlueEyedVibeChecker
    @BlueEyedVibeChecker 10 дней назад +4

    If you run the emulator at 640 × 480, you're upscaling it.
    The internal resolution of the PS2 is 512 × 448i/224P, and if you select this resolution, the emulator will look 1:1 with the PS2 for a more authentic look.

    • @nikodem123asdf
      @nikodem123asdf 10 дней назад +2

      It's true for many games but not all of them. Most common resolution modes are 512x448 and 640x448. The emulator has an option to play with underscan in integer resolution but you still need to pay attention to the resolution I think.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  10 дней назад +1

      To me, I'm not too fussed with getting the exact look as I usually play with real PS2 hardware and I don't mind a slight upscale using emulation in software mode :)
      But the choices are there to make the PS2 emulator as close or as far away from real hardware as possible :)

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  10 дней назад

      @@nikodem123asdf It only matters if you want to use emulation to replicate the PS2 experience as much as possible but for me, it is not a concern :)

    • @nikodem123asdf
      @nikodem123asdf 10 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      It actually helps for recording at native resolution since loads of games change their rendering resolution depending on whether it's cutscene, menu, battle system etc.
      From there I can use integer upscaling to get very sharp image for upload.
      I record longplays so these small details matter a lot for me. I have yet to use PCSX2 to record one but I have done some tinkering about.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  10 дней назад

      I can understand & yes that is a good point as not all parts of games run in exactly the same resolution :)
      For me, I never notice anything substantial from this as everything appears sharp to me using the settings I use but, I know for the best results, monitoring everything is key :)

  • @MetalJody1990
    @MetalJody1990 6 дней назад +1

    PCSX2 is absolutely amazing. I currently have 68 games that look and run fantastically with this emulator. Some of the shooting games can be played with keyboard+mouse and higher frame rates like normal PC shooters. TimeSplitters, Darkwatch, Black, The Chikyuu Boueigun 2...

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  6 дней назад +1

      It has come a long way & to see people using it, enjoying it, trying to figure out what graphics work best & of course, ongoing support means this emulator will be the ultimate PS2 experience soon if not already :)

  • @Faxiz48
    @Faxiz48 День назад +1

    What song you use on the background?

  • @Mike-dr1db
    @Mike-dr1db 9 дней назад +7

    GT4 is literally an early PS3 game, they used the same accents in the Gran Turismo HD Concept

  • @TerraFuu
    @TerraFuu 2 дня назад +1

    Can you link the PS2 cables used? I'd also like to record native hardware.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  2 дня назад

      It was the Sony Official RGB SCART Cable but, a better cheaper alternative is to visit Retro Gaming Cables & find a SCART or Component cable there :)
      Just type it into Google and it will pop right up :)
      I don't do links due to spam issues but hope it helps!

  • @tort5715
    @tort5715 5 дней назад +1

    8:11 that one feeling when you understand that, the icon (clock on top right) has a little arrow shoeing up or down. On ps2 because of resolution I never was able to puzzle it out.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  5 дней назад

      I was using RGB SCART whereas maybe using Composite the icon was to fuzzy to see :)
      It was a lot easier to see thanks to the resolution boost of PCSX2 when using upscaled resolutions :)

  • @Saruchango
    @Saruchango 6 дней назад

    Which song did you used? I remember it from a game, but don’t remember which one!

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  6 дней назад +1

      Many, many people have asked me about the music in this video haha...
      It is from Zone Of The Enders: The 2nd Runner & the song is called Barham Battleship :)

  • @muchossaugus9927
    @muchossaugus9927 5 дней назад +1

    Whats the music title starting with the gran turismo part called?

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад

      Check my pinned comment for the song in question as many people have asked me about it over and over :)

    • @spiral7041
      @spiral7041 День назад +1

      Recognised it instantly. It's from zone of the Ender's 2 in the bahram battleship level

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  6 часов назад

      Most people sadly never played the game, myself included until I got both games this year :)
      Never had so many people ask me about a background song!

  • @enricojeremias5425
    @enricojeremias5425 9 дней назад +7

    Mr.Sujano send me here ...

  • @nit3h8wk81
    @nit3h8wk81 4 дня назад +1

    For pcsx2 I generally use progressive scan mode for the games that have it and no-interlace patch's for the rest. Gives you a much cleaner upscale less blurry.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад

      If the games support it, defiantly use 480p :)
      I don't mind the current upscale since I would use software rendering :)

  • @bparks2193
    @bparks2193 9 дней назад +1

    The issues in hardware mode for Valkyrie Profile were just fixed with two new upscaling hack settings. Align to Native HPO and Native Scaling. Download the latest development build and see for yourself.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад

      I've had this comment quite a few times now but I believe this is related to the Windows version currently :)
      This video used the Mac nightly build so not sure if that one got the treatment but, if not it should adapt the fixes soon!

    • @bparks2193
      @bparks2193 9 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Mac version should be on the same build 1.7.5948

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад +1

      If it is then one day I'll make another video with the updates included with new games tested!

  • @j25-games96
    @j25-games96 3 дня назад +1

    this makes me what to get a crt monitor to see how emulation at a higher res would look like

  • @Kennosuke88
    @Kennosuke88 8 дней назад +2

    I have a pnach code which fixes most if not all problems with Valkyrie profile 2

  • @FrankenSama
    @FrankenSama 12 дней назад +3

    What's the name of the background music ?

  • @firzaprama7
    @firzaprama7 5 дней назад +2

    Honestly I'd prefer PS2 graphic on it's original form. Upscaling only made the graphics look "cheaper" in my opinion.
    Unfortunately, I don't know what settings should I use in PCSX2 to preserve the original look.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  5 дней назад

      Simply use the software rendering mode if you want a more accurate to PS2 look as possible :)
      I use it more than the hardware rendering mode personally :)

    • @firzaprama7
      @firzaprama7 5 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial thanks for the tip, I'll try it.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад +1

      No problem, hope you enjoy!

    • @firzaprama7
      @firzaprama7 3 дня назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial I've tried it and it works well, it looks good and doesn't have performance problem either.
      Software mode improvement is very noticeable compared to 10 years ago.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  3 дня назад

      I love software mode & it has indeed improved over time especially with the optimisations with recent PCSX2 builds :)

  • @AquaticMammalOnBicycle
    @AquaticMammalOnBicycle 4 дня назад +1

    The PCSX2 or PS2 label should be MUCH BIGGER and more visible, not tiny font at very bottom of screen. You should have title card labels onscreen for each game.
    Also you should emphasize and highlight what "special effects differences" you observed, instead of simply mentioning it and skipping past it. For example you should be comparing both Software mode in PCSX2 and advanced renderer modes, because that is where differences in effects become noticeable where they still exist.
    It's not useful to show an upscaled version and say it looks better than original low res jaggies and blur.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад

      The first point I agree with because there was a couple of times where it was hidden & it is tough to size it correctly in certain games :) I will certainly try something different in future videos :)
      I didn't because I want viewers to see if they could spot the differences themselves, after all, not everyone will pick up on it & some may not care while others will :)
      It is useful because I was testing hardware rendering & I wanted to show the most upscaled version to show viewers what PCSX2 can really do :)
      Software mode is the most accurate to a real PS2 but no worries, I plan on making a video soon seeing how well the software renderer compares to real PS2 hardware to see how accurate it is :)

  • @xover-ken7801
    @xover-ken7801 7 дней назад +1

    what's the name of the video music

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  7 дней назад

      I've had this question a lot but, it is from Zone Of The Enders: The 2nd Runners & the song is called Barham Battleship :)

  • @Kaim.Argonar
    @Kaim.Argonar 9 дней назад +2

    Song name? Is it from Z.O.E.?

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад

      Yes! It's from Zone Of The Enders The 2nd Runner :)
      Someone asked me the same question I think it is Barham Battleship :)

  • @rained649
    @rained649 23 часа назад +1

    It'd be nice if you could add your testing of the games to the PCSX2 wiki.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  22 часа назад

      It's not really my scene as I never get enough time to test the games extensively & by the time I do update anything, people are well aware of the issues and the emulators are updated every frequently now :)
      I appreciate the idea though, never say never :)

  • @niezzayt3809
    @niezzayt3809 10 дней назад +3

    We still need a reliable one but for XBox 360

  • @eliashowe7115
    @eliashowe7115 11 дней назад +4

    Something is really off with this emulator in terms of smoothness in motion. Animations of characters are not as smooth as they should.
    I think the real PS2 looks better, especially in progressive scan mode.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  11 дней назад +5

      It might be because these are the PAL versions of games (some were in 60hz or 480p progressive scan though), some games also had performance issues like Valkyrie Profile :)
      Otherwise, both are worth a look and remember you can use software mode if you want more accurate results from the emulator :)

  • @NaldzHobbySide
    @NaldzHobbySide 12 дней назад +3

    with PCSX2 (nightly build) im enjoying more PS2 games 👌👌

  • @user-yk1cw8im4h
    @user-yk1cw8im4h 4 дня назад +1

    Insane how emulation is better than og hardware

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад

      In some ways yes but it is not perfect and some games still do not work properly but, it is getting better with each new update so PCSX2 is a great PS2 experience :)

  • @zbf
    @zbf 5 дней назад +1

    I want this 4k graphics on Chinese portable consoles on ps2 with stable 60fps! 🎉

  • @mrhappy8966
    @mrhappy8966 8 дней назад +1

    It kind of annoys me some of my must have games aren't running well on pcsx2 after my ps2 collection disappearing over the years, but hopefully in the few years or so they all get fixed its a tall ask being how many games there are.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  7 дней назад +1

      Many games that never worked or were having issues now work properly so, it is only a matter of time before the emulator improves along with game compatibility :)

    • @mrhappy8966
      @mrhappy8966 7 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial very true

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  7 дней назад

      Keep checking for updates and one day, the games will work nicely! :)

    • @mrhappy8966
      @mrhappy8966 7 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial 😁

  •  5 дней назад +1

    what would happen whit Ps2 2D Games like Castlevania ?
    would it look better ?

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад

      It would just look a bit sharper as you saw with the Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix section :)

  • @JeffreyM641
    @JeffreyM641 16 часов назад +1

    I was wondering why the PS2 seems to be so much harder to emulate than the PS1 or many other consoles.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  6 часов назад

      The PS2 was very well known for being difficult to develop games for due to its architecture & as a result, emulating the Emotion Engine & the various components of the PS2 was not easy!
      Thankfully, the emulation team behind Duckstation has contributed to the emulator & has made huge strides making this now a great emulator :)
      Sadly, the Original XBOX is proving to be the hardest to emulate & it is a shame because many of its games are still fun today :)

  • @deathdoor
    @deathdoor 3 дня назад +1

    I thought latest PCSX2 version had fixed most of the effects on Silmeria.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  3 дня назад

      It has but this is the Mac version & I'm not sure if the fixes applied to this or the Windows version :)
      This video was recorded on June 24th 2024 so I think I just missed the update that fixes the game a bit :)

  • @symphony137
    @symphony137 4 дня назад +1

    Why would you use 50Hz PAL versions for comparisons? There's pretty much zero reason to play PAL versions these days unless it's a PAL region exclusive game. Not to mention, NTSC versions offer 480p much more often than their PAL conversions, and I'm not even talking about all the other downsides of many PAL games when they were badly optimized for 50Hz output. Fyi, with Free McBoot you can play any PS2 game on any console, irrespective of the console's region.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад

      I'm from the UK & to ensure fairness in the test, it was only natural to use PAL games so people can see the differences :)
      Like you, when I use emulators I also use mostly NTSC-J or NTSC American games for the reasons you pointed out but PAL software is not to be ignored & again PAL gamers shouldn't be ignored :)
      Also not true, I have Free MCBoot and it does not make a console region free. I have a Japanese game I tried & it did not work on my PS2 using the software.

    • @symphony137
      @symphony137 4 дня назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial I didn't mean booting discs from other regions, although there is a method for that too.. look into MechaPwn (at your own risk). But with FreeMcBoot, or more specifically OPL (the actual game loader) you can essentially play any PS2 game ISO from either USB, network, or hard drive. I don't recommend the USB method though, it's too slow. I personally use an SSD in my PS2 and it plays pretty much any game from any region on my PAL PS2.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад

      Ah I did have the PS2 MC2SIO memory card which allowed SD cards to go into the PS2's memory card slot & then I used OPL but, sadly the games I tried most did not work & now there's a newer version so, in the future I will attempt it again & fingers crossed it will be more successful :)
      If it works, I could look into playing NTSC based games on my PS2 legit and using those to show the true potential of certain games, especially when using the GS Mode Selector :)

  • @JanoschNr1
    @JanoschNr1 8 дней назад +1

    Well NGL if you wanna see real hardcore change you should test MoH Frontline, not the remaster tho, let alone the FPS change is worth it + you can make the textures crisp unlike the blurry original

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  8 дней назад

      It shows how emulation can improve games over real hardware sometimes and this cannot be overlooked :)

  • @JFD62780
    @JFD62780 6 дней назад

    dude...
    NFS:MW might as well be the PS5 version, it's that improved! Never expected a buttery-smooth framerate! XD

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  6 дней назад

      Wouldn't say PS5 but I do understand where you are coming from :)
      Of course & even better, if you want to you can actually overclock although this was not used for this video :) Similar to how PPSSPP does the same with its games!

  • @MrSamPhoenix
    @MrSamPhoenix 11 дней назад +2

    Were you using a Mac?

  • @Neonagi
    @Neonagi 3 дня назад +2

    basically turns ps2 games into ps3 titles with the upscaled resolution

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  3 дня назад

      That's one way of looking at it or it makes soft looking games sharp just as they should be :)

  • @dreamsky66666
    @dreamsky66666 8 дней назад +1

    确实清晰了很多,看着舒服多了。

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  3 дня назад

      Many people would share those thoughts & I know some people prefer the clearer look of the 4K upscaled graphics :)

  • @damasake
    @damasake 10 дней назад +1

    Valkyrie Profile 2, the only game I want to play on the PS2 that i cannot play on my old laptop.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  10 дней назад

      It is a tougher game to run unfortunately, maybe one day it'll work better with newer builds of PCSX2 :)

  • @DDRmails
    @DDRmails 8 дней назад +8

    duckstation:
    turn ps1 games into dreamcast
    rpcs2:
    turn ps2 games into ps3 port

  • @jonhard12
    @jonhard12 9 дней назад +1

    Good that the team pushing higher accuracy for it
    The good thing they did is gamedb

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад

      The games work better for it and to see PCSX2 work on modest hardware is the best part :)

  • @Bot-en3xj
    @Bot-en3xj 9 дней назад +1

    We can't blame aether
    We can only support the team with videos of emulations
    Spread words of emulation love

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад

      I know but I had to mention it as the team has not brought it back and we need to be thankful PCSX2 is still going strong :)

    • @Myako
      @Myako 8 дней назад +1

      Actually, we can. The programmer started getting rude, alienated even their fans and left a last version riddled with adware without telling anyone.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  8 дней назад

      This is why we have to support teams who are great to the community & are working on fixing or improving emulators that we use!

    • @Myako
      @Myako 8 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial we can thank the devs that took over after Talreth's childish tantrum and not only removed the adware but keep improving It in the form of NetherSX2.

  • @ailtonpassos9020
    @ailtonpassos9020 3 дня назад +1

    Nice man but your gran turismo 4 and valkyrie profile 2 are the european version in this version, if you use the 1080i in both version your video gonna be the maximun, too bad you use s-video cable, and only japanese version of valkyrie profile 2 have 1080i with the code after hold triangule and X.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  2 дня назад

      Well I only own PAL games being from the UK & I did explain in the video that I'm aware of those games and even Tekken 5 supporting progressive scan on NTSC versions :)
      I used RGB SCART, not S-Video, I even showed the cable at the beginning of the video :)

    • @ailtonpassos9020
      @ailtonpassos9020 2 дня назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial i thought it was s-video cuz is gray color so i think was a ps1 version of the cable.

    • @ailtonpassos9020
      @ailtonpassos9020 2 дня назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial if have the chance try use valkyrie profile 2 japanese version.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  2 дня назад

      This was a PS1 RGB SCART cable, might explain the confusion although the OSSC only accepts RGB SCART, Component & VGA :)

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  2 дня назад

      In a future video I might, although the lack of an English patch for it makes it hard to justify :)

  • @kevinpatel265
    @kevinpatel265 11 дней назад +1

    Soul Caliber 3 deserved a PS3 and Xbox 360 native port. Namco really shouldn't have ported it to the PS2. Atleast an HD rereleased version with all the arcade exclusive software updates in a PS3 and 360 version.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  11 дней назад

      It would have been interesting, after all Soulcalibur II did receive a HD port on the PS3!

  • @TheRandomGuyTheFarNoGameCat
    @TheRandomGuyTheFarNoGameCat 9 дней назад +1

    Yo, how were you playing Tekken 3 Arcade!? 👀

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  8 дней назад

      It was included on Tekken 5 in the arcade history section which has Tekken 1, Tekken 2 & Tekken 3, all arcade versions :)

  • @BrianBorkowski
    @BrianBorkowski 9 дней назад +2

    You gotta try a retrotink 5x or 4k

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  8 дней назад

      Give me $300 - $400 and I would gladly upgrade xD Sadly, right now the investment, along with import charges (The device is a US product only, I'm from the UK) means I can't buy one at the moment :)

  • @tendosingh5682
    @tendosingh5682 3 дня назад +1

    Graphical issues could very well be due to your APPLE and/or build.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  3 дня назад

      Apple isn't the problem, the Vulkan renderer I tried as well had the same issues as the Metal rendering :)
      I had many comments talking about some PCSX2 fixes but, this was recorded on June 24th 2024 so I think the fixes for some games were released after I finished editing the video :)

  • @raitoningusutoreto9851
    @raitoningusutoreto9851 11 дней назад +1

    Still need work but i see the improvements through the years. Many games also need blending accuracy set to high and they can drop frames

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  10 дней назад

      It will never be perfect but to be at this stage is incredible :)
      Indeed however, more games are playable, especially on lower end hardware :)

  • @asdasdasdsassad
    @asdasdasdsassad 11 дней назад +1

    thanks

  • @astreakaito5625
    @astreakaito5625 9 дней назад +1

    VP2 and ZOE mentioned = based
    I'm pretty sure VP2 recently got fixed a bit.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад

      This is Mac version of the PCSX2 nightly build so maybe the Windows version is further ahead and remember, these videos always go out of date immediately since they are update frequently :)

  • @Emulator_Crossing
    @Emulator_Crossing 9 дней назад +1

    no shimmering, alaising is the best thing in pcsx2 high res. ps2 was natorious with this.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад +1

      I love the look of original PS2 graphics but I also understand this angle and this is why emulation is a good choice in this day and age :)

  • @JCSA79V
    @JCSA79V 7 дней назад +1

    PS2 at native resolution is underrated imo.

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup 8 дней назад +3

    Bro is airing out all the PAL region's L's in this one. Lol

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  8 дней назад

      I'm from the UK, all my games are PAL versions and it is only fair to make it consistent for both platforms :)

  • @jaggermedinaOficial
    @jaggermedinaOficial 3 дня назад +1

    Obviamente se tiene que ver mejor en emulador porque una PC es muy muy superior técnicamente a una PS2. más bien es una proesa técnica muchos juegos que corren en la consola a pesar que cuenta con una memoria ram de los 64mb

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  3 дня назад

      Well we've come a long way since the PS2 launched & these days upscaling and wanting to see old games in a new light is all the rage :)
      I still love the PS2 & I adore the games and graphics from those days :)

  • @carlosmanutencoes3346
    @carlosmanutencoes3346 5 дней назад +1

    soul calibur... NICE

  • @Emulator_Crossing
    @Emulator_Crossing 9 дней назад +2

    Sujano gang😅

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад

      Ah, I have to see who this individual is but they seem like a good person!
      (Edit) I have now seen the creator & I used to watch this guy for many many years!

    • @Emulator_Crossing
      @Emulator_Crossing 9 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial he host an emulation news channel, and recommanded on your video.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  8 дней назад +1

      Oh I know the gentlemen, I used to watch him daily for a long time :) I'm happy he recommended my video & I'm glad people are enjoying it :)

  • @AhyaNiyari
    @AhyaNiyari 10 дней назад +1

    Legaia dual saga plz

  • @Chroans
    @Chroans 5 дней назад +1

    The rumble, im playing ps2 now because the rumble emulation is not good same as duckstation, it Just not hits how it should be

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  5 дней назад

      Sadly, the rumble is not a priority although I understand it makes some games more playable or interesting on real hardware so, fingers crossed that emulation will catch up on this :)

  • @Rockman-4
    @Rockman-4 7 дней назад +1

    MrSujano is your daddy bro.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  7 дней назад

      I wish xD I'm from the UK but I appreciate his shout out for this video & it is nice to see so many people enjoy it :)

    • @Rockman-4
      @Rockman-4 7 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial yes. And i like your channel. Won't ever find it if it wasn't because of his shout out.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  7 дней назад

      I appreciate the kind words & hopefully more good videos are on the horizon!

    • @wow22815
      @wow22815 День назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial you can tell he’s a good hearted dude , some people are envious and do not give anybody a shout out and see it as a competition

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  День назад

      There's a lot of people out there who do not want to help or make drama out of nothing, sad state of the world right now!

  • @netten2057
    @netten2057 2 дня назад

    use a pvm via rgb to the ps2

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  2 дня назад

      I don't have one sadly :)

    • @netten2057
      @netten2057 2 дня назад

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial a device intended for television studios has no comparison with how the image is seen on an LCD screen with an emulator ,no matter how many resolutions and filters it has, has nothing to do with a pvm , get yourself a good one, connect it via RGB, and see for yourself. get some sony with pixel perfect, and then come back and comment again

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  2 дня назад

      Sadly, I would rather use the money to get a Retrotink 4K or 5x as that is more important to me & I wouldn't the PVM, just not for me :)

  • @smb2267
    @smb2267 4 дня назад

    lol wtf is metal rendering

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад

      This is using the Mac version of PCSX2 so Metal rendering is what ARM Mac chips use to hardware accelerate graphics, basically a Mac's version of OpenGL or Vulkan for x86 based systems :)

  • @MrDavehathaway
    @MrDavehathaway 7 дней назад

    Don't blame the emulator on your problems, 100% of the issues you are having are your settings and hardware. Laptop = Integrated Graphics = Crap. Integrated Graphics not only use a good chunk of your system memory, it has to access that memory to and from the graphics chips, so it's MUCH slower than a dedicated graphics card. If an emulator runs out of graphic memory, it doesn't usually crash, you just end up with missing or corrupt textures. You're also more likely to end up having programs using virtual memory (slow!) because of the shared memory.
    The first solution is to lower you output resolution and/or the backend renderer (OpenGL fixes almost every issue).
    Also try reducing the internal render resolution - you don't have infinite memory.
    Biggest tip - Don't EVER use a laptop to compare an emulator to real hardware or for anything except traveling. Are laptops convenient? Yes. They are also potatoes compared to a desktop computer.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  7 дней назад +1

      Not sure where this came from as I never once blamed my equipment for the emulation issues I had & my laptop is more than powerful enough to run these games in 4K, my desktop is much slower than my MacBook :)
      There was no OpenGL renderer available being this is the Mac version of PCSX2 & I said in the video the issues can be fixed or changed to help with image quality and performance :)
      Also not everyone needs or wants a desktop so it is great to see this emulator is working well for the most part on lower end systems like the Steam Deck, laptops and computers with iGPU's :)

  • @alexanderpolguldesign
    @alexanderpolguldesign 11 дней назад +2

    Emulators will always be better than original hardware

    • @BlueEyedVibeChecker
      @BlueEyedVibeChecker 10 дней назад +2

      Play Xenoblade Chronicles 2 at even half the Switch's frame rate on hardware thrice as strong, you can't.
      It's not always better.

    • @BlueEyedVibeChecker
      @BlueEyedVibeChecker 10 дней назад

      My 5950X struggles with this too, I can attest to it.

    • @alexanderpolguldesign
      @alexanderpolguldesign 10 дней назад

      @@BlueEyedVibeChecker I don't need to play shitty games

    • @alexanderpolguldesign
      @alexanderpolguldesign 10 дней назад

      @@BlueEyedVibeChecker you should've bought 5800 X3D, much better for gaming

    • @nikodem123asdf
      @nikodem123asdf 10 дней назад

      That's only true since a few years ago for the Pcsx2. Before the emulator was rebuilt with the help of Dolphin dev it was a glorified FFX player with compatibility for other games added as an afterthought.

  • @symptomaticblackout
    @symptomaticblackout 4 дня назад +1

    lmao this guy know nothing about emulation...

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  4 дня назад

      I've been using emulation for 15 years & while I'm not the best with every little detail, I did say in the video I used the same settings to ensure fair testing & I did say during the video settings can be changed at any time if performance or graphics start glitching up :)
      The emulator versions can also change results in the future too & I know some games need software rendering or other enhancements to work correctly :)
      If you want to help me get better results for a future emulation video, please tell me but don't attack me :) This was made for fun and nothing more :)

  • @rofwest1643
    @rofwest1643 День назад +1

    What's music on video?

  • @judevernichter2.0
    @judevernichter2.0 9 дней назад +6

    The Duckstation team are coding beasts,they created the best PS1 emulator in a short amount of time compared to the ePSXe and blew that emulator out of the water.
    No wonder PCSX2 has advanced so rapidly in the last few years,the Duckstation team rock hard af.💪💪💪

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  9 дней назад +1

      This is why I'm thankful they helped out & made PCSX2 one of the best emulators right now :)

    • @judevernichter2.0
      @judevernichter2.0 9 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Yep,i have Duckstation and PCSX2 installed...best emulators of both consoles out there.

    • @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial
      @AffrosCuriositiesOfficial  8 дней назад +1

      Dolphin is up there too but yes, those two emulators are my favourite :)

    • @judevernichter2.0
      @judevernichter2.0 8 дней назад +1

      @@AffrosCuriositiesOfficial Ah yes,easily the best Gamecube emulator ever made.
      i have it too,just like Xemu...another emulator that has advanced to the point of becoming a must have for OG Xbox games.

  • @Austin.zumBrunnen
    @Austin.zumBrunnen 9 дней назад +1

    Fluff approved. 🐈🫡