Wow that was an ass kicker LOL I wouldn't be able to sleep without finding the actual wiring fault 😂 Is something aftermarket spliced into that network? Seriously nice job man. Shows the struggles of the mobile tech working under time pressure 💪
I assume something was still wired into the network, but I could not find it. There was a camera in the front and rear that I didn't fully trace. The customer bought the car like this and didn't know what was wired in.
@@advancedleveldiagnostics Yeah maybe the OBD connector was supposed to grab the speed signal for the camera, but it only talks to the gateway so they spliced directly into CAN2? What a weird car!
Great job, intermittents take several times longer to fix and add significantly to the hours that customers should be informed before starting the job then I think you Should be paid accordingly. It doesn’t feel fair to charge the customer for a non fix before the issue is found but that’s the way it has to be.
Nice trick with pasting the diagrams to One Note. I like using the interactive diagrams in Toyota TIS. This cuts down my time with navigating through the junctions and connectors. I hope you charge accordingly, there's not many guys that can diagnose this problem.
That is huge problem to many shop, working with intermittent problems, especially comunication faults.Noone wants to touch it anymore, many shops try and refuse it, customer pays for that and your mechanichs ego says " I will give it a shot". Its time consuming, your boss is pushing you because other jobs are money makers😂. Good job!
I never lose sight of the luxury of time and no pressure as a DIYer vs what you (and others) face in the work world not an easy trade you're in full respect:)
Sometimes a repair is doing what it takes to get it going. This car was one such animal. Good fix and Happy Thanksgiving from Florida formally from NJ.
Grat job! I have the similar case now with Camry 2021. CAN Bus 4 dead. Do you have a clear image of what exactly connector & harness should be connected? Thanks.
It's the brake wiring harness. Had my 2018 in Toyota's shop for 13 weeks, ended up taking it to another shop that figured it out in 2 weeks... So a total of 15 weeks. Cost ran around $5,000 for labor and a used harness. New through Toyota was like $5,000 itself. Still have to recalibrate the system, that's $200 and 2 hours with Toyota. I've been running a speedometer on my phone for over a year, no cruise or anything, also doesn't register miles, so I've been at the same amount of miles since this fiasco started. Headache for sure.
Very good on your final effort. You can't repair everything that comes to you, when doing this as a business. People that do this as a hobby never understand this ... they just go back to their paying job, where-as this IS your paying job.
Nice job, you fixed it(found the problem)so you bill for it. Nobody else wanted to deal with it and you fixed it. So get paid. I would think that somewhere in the harness one or both of those wires rubbed through on something.
I bet they are shorting to each other, the chances they are shorting in the exact same way such that they are still mirror images to each other to a third object is exceedingly low.
Just splice the wires, and send the car over the auction block. When people start splicing in after market stuff into the CAN, it can be a pain to remove. Had a breathalyzer interlock botch job cause can wires to corrode and cause all kinds of intermittent CAN comm issues and they get sneaky to prevent someone from disabling it.
@@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 They have a tube you blow in periodically with a camera looking at you all the time and it makes you pull over and blow into it. This is to ensure you don't have a buddy riding along to blow for you. It disables the ignition switch but it's wired into the main harnesses and connects into the can bus. I think this is to block the network in case you decide to hot wire your rig. If you fail to blow into it, it will disable your car.
What to know you thoughts. How do you go about charging a customer for the hrs of diagnosing time for something like this? Awesome work you've done here!
Your videos help so much for someone like me that still feels very behind in terms of advanced automotive diagnostics. I had a question that I was wondering if you could answer. When you were doing resistance checks with your multimeter I understand you should be seeing OL when testing circuit to ground to verify the circuit is not shorted, but when you tested to see if the wires were shorted together and got 1.7million ohms, shouldn't you have had OL instead if its actually not shorted together because they are separate wires? And if not, then where did the 1.7 million ohms come from? Sorry if my question doesn't make sense. and thanks again for your videos! edit: Nevermind, I figured out in lower voltage systems if you are getting mega ohms it is considered OL. Good to know
Hello sir . Great video . Quick question what kind of tablet is the one you hook your pico with I have not seen nobody that use that together I love it . Please let me know. Thank you sir
I appreciate your time and information sir . I’m watching another video from you 03 Camry - timing codes po16 with your new tool ( 2 mnts ago ) I will keep watching your videos forever.
Great Job with the diagnosis, i really like how you were able to get all the digrams in one screen, thats a awesome feature, im liking alldatas wiring diagrams, thanks for sharing
Seems like that tiny run of wires might have been getting some RF interference somewhere or something weird. There is no evidence to believe that the wiring diagram is wrong because everything else was consistent to the diagram.
Hi, what software or app you use to copy paste all diagrams in one page. you got entire can network diagram , connectors all sequnetially lined up.. All data doesnt provide that way,, you have to manually move over. apprecaite your help.
Hi one last Questoin. Sorry for bothering you. when you diagnosed this car for Can issues , you are disconnecting junction connector starting from gateway to the other end, when u do so(disconnecting junction connector), will not you loose the other end of terminating resistor and will not that screw the scope pattern of can high and low. I am not sure how you are able to solve this.
on most vehicles having only 1 120 resistor is enough to read the module. The pattern is not as clean if it had both, but you can usually still tell if the network is OK.
I started working on cars as a hobby around 6 years ago and did all the repairs for friends. Then, I became a mobile mechanic and really enjoyed diagnostics. I watched every @scannerdanner video and got the foundation for electrical diagnostics. I also subscribed to every training site I can find. Almost 3 Years ago, I started doing diagnostics for Shops exclusively, and that is the best possible training you can get.
I really appreciate you taking the time to respond...means a lot. One more thing, before you started mobile did you ever work in a shop?@@advancedleveldiagnostics
So it take a while hah I have been watching every single video of scanner danner and ph and Ats for the past 2 years and I’m not near where you are skilled wise . A applause and ovation for you brother
Soooooooooo my check engine light is on. I and my Triangle light is on. I took it to the dealership and they told me it was a tcm. And then they hooked a new didn't work they put a new ecm and tcm new and the light still on comes to find out they say that the display navigation system Lost communication with the. 4can well the paper says performed com bus check -display and navigation AVN bus 3 No. 4can junction connector lost communication btw it's a Toyota Camry 2018 Se
Its not your fault Boss...its intermittent problems mix with aftermarket crap😢...its no easy task...only thingnis when gets you frustrated 😤 leave it do some else and comebak to fight again😅
Looks like you found out what was going wrong but you need to take it a bit slower and explain what your doing. Cutting the wire was not necessary. You could have removed the pins from the connector and tested it that way. If your deal is to find the issue and tell the garage owner to chase the wires to find the actual problem fine. If you have the fix the problem now its up to you to find the cause of the problem. Main thing I find watching your videos is you really go too fast without explaining what you are doing. Looks like you understand what you're doing but if you're going to do videos you need to slow down.
Dude: I know time and money situation but you would be easier to watch if you were less hyper and speed talky. Very difficult to take in this video. Slow down when talking to your audience.
@@advancedleveldiagnostics I love the speed of your videos. It makes it easier to follow along in my opinion. almost like I'm diagnosing it myself at the shop. It's cool to see your thoughts and how you process/approach problems.
Wow that was an ass kicker LOL
I wouldn't be able to sleep without finding the actual wiring fault 😂
Is something aftermarket spliced into that network?
Seriously nice job man. Shows the struggles of the mobile tech working under time pressure 💪
I assume something was still wired into the network, but I could not find it. There was a camera in the front and rear that I didn't fully trace. The customer bought the car like this and didn't know what was wired in.
@@advancedleveldiagnostics Yeah maybe the OBD connector was supposed to grab the speed signal for the camera, but it only talks to the gateway so they spliced directly into CAN2? What a weird car!
If you didn’t solve this problem for him , it NEVER would have been fixed ! Great job sticking that out
Boy just seeing the dash ripped apart gave me a headache,lol!!!much respect my friend!!
Thanks Jeff, this one had me going in circles😀
Great job, intermittents take several times longer to fix and add significantly to the hours that customers should be informed before starting the job then I think you Should be paid accordingly. It doesn’t feel fair to charge the customer for a non fix before the issue is found but that’s the way it has to be.
Nice trick with pasting the diagrams to One Note.
I like using the interactive diagrams in Toyota TIS. This cuts down my time with navigating through the junctions and connectors.
I hope you charge accordingly, there's not many guys that can diagnose this problem.
I never knew Tis has interactive diagrams, I have to check it out. Thanks!
That is huge problem to many shop, working with intermittent problems, especially comunication faults.Noone wants to touch it anymore, many shops try and refuse it, customer pays for that and your mechanichs ego says " I will give it a shot". Its time consuming, your boss is pushing you because other jobs are money makers😂. Good job!
Lol that ego gets us in trouble!
I never lose sight of the luxury of time and no pressure as a DIYer vs what you (and others) face in the work world
not an easy trade you're in
full respect:)
Thanks for watching!
Sometimes a repair is doing what it takes to get it going. This car was one such animal. Good fix and Happy Thanksgiving from Florida formally from NJ.
Thanks!
Great job, amazing to see good people like you.
Thank you!
Grat job! I have the similar case now with Camry 2021. CAN Bus 4 dead. Do you have a clear image of what exactly connector & harness should be connected? Thanks.
It's the brake wiring harness. Had my 2018 in Toyota's shop for 13 weeks, ended up taking it to another shop that figured it out in 2 weeks... So a total of 15 weeks. Cost ran around $5,000 for labor and a used harness. New through Toyota was like $5,000 itself. Still have to recalibrate the system, that's $200 and 2 hours with Toyota. I've been running a speedometer on my phone for over a year, no cruise or anything, also doesn't register miles, so I've been at the same amount of miles since this fiasco started. Headache for sure.
Oh, also was told by the mechanic to get full coverage and run the car into a tree at high speed vs paying to fix it, lol. He was absolutely serious.
Cool. I figured it had something to do with the aftermarket camera. I just bypassed the harness, and all is good.
What has to be recalibrated?
Very good on your final effort. You can't repair everything that comes to you, when doing this as a business. People that do this as a hobby never understand this ... they just go back to their paying job, where-as this IS your paying job.
💯 agree! The shop ran an overlay on those wires, and the customer is really happy.
Hey , you when Ivan ( Pine Hollow Diagnostic) is watching your videos , you are the man ! Both you guys are awesome
Thank you!
Merci pour tes vidéos 👍
I've had to do that before great job thanks for sharing brother.
Nice job, you fixed it(found the problem)so you bill for it. Nobody else wanted to deal with it and you fixed it. So get paid. I would think that somewhere in the harness one or both of those wires rubbed through on something.
I bet they are shorting to each other, the chances they are shorting in the exact same way such that they are still mirror images to each other to a third object is exceedingly low.
Bro I love your introduction “ I got here “ 😂 and content. Keep it up! Subscribed!
Thank you, appreciate it!
Great job. At this point I don't see anything wrong with running new wires.
Just splice the wires, and send the car over the auction block. When people start splicing in after market stuff into the CAN, it can be a pain to remove. Had a breathalyzer interlock botch job cause can wires to corrode and cause all kinds of intermittent CAN comm issues and they get sneaky to prevent someone from disabling it.
I had no idea such things exist for cars.
@@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 They have a tube you blow in periodically with a camera looking at you all the time and it makes you pull over and blow into it. This is to ensure you don't have a buddy riding along to blow for you. It disables the ignition switch but it's wired into the main harnesses and connects into the can bus. I think this is to block the network in case you decide to hot wire your rig. If you fail to blow into it, it will disable your car.
@@ATSNorthernMI Thanks for the detailed explanation!
What to know you thoughts. How do you go about charging a customer for the hrs of diagnosing time for something like this? Awesome work you've done here!
do what has to be done to get it going! Nice
hey great job how can i get the wiring diagram pls
email please
Crazy fix 👍🏻
Your videos help so much for someone like me that still feels very behind in terms of advanced automotive diagnostics. I had a question that I was wondering if you could answer. When you were doing resistance checks with your multimeter I understand you should be seeing OL when testing circuit to ground to verify the circuit is not shorted, but when you tested to see if the wires were shorted together and got 1.7million ohms, shouldn't you have had OL instead if its actually not shorted together because they are separate wires? And if not, then where did the 1.7 million ohms come from? Sorry if my question doesn't make sense. and thanks again for your videos!
edit: Nevermind, I figured out in lower voltage systems if you are getting mega ohms it is considered OL. Good to know
Thanks for watching!
Maybe a ghost immobilizer fitted
Bro, what stated are you located in ? Great job on the diagnose btw (Y)
Thanks! I'm in New Jersey.
Take the cars home with you that intermittently act up?
Hello sir .
Great video .
Quick question what kind of tablet is the one you hook your pico with I have not seen nobody that use that together I love it .
Please let me know.
Thank you sir
I'm using a Dell Latitude 7212 Tablet PC. With a mount made by jarhead diagnostics.
www.jarheaddiag.com/shop/p/scopemount
I appreciate your time and information sir .
I’m watching another video from you 03 Camry - timing codes po16 with your new tool ( 2 mnts ago )
I will keep watching your videos forever.
Great job dude
Thanks!
Great Job with the diagnosis, i really like how you were able to get all the digrams in one screen, thats a awesome feature, im liking alldatas wiring diagrams, thanks for sharing
Thanks! It wasn't a function of all data, I copied and pasted all the diagrams into Microsoft One note.
Seems like that tiny run of wires might have been getting some RF interference somewhere or something weird. There is no evidence to believe that the wiring diagram is wrong because everything else was consistent to the diagram.
Hi, what software or app you use to copy paste all diagrams in one page. you got entire can network diagram , connectors all sequnetially lined up.. All data doesnt provide that way,, you have to manually move over. apprecaite your help.
I use Microsoft one note, I copy and past it in. I only use it when I'm really stuck and need it all on one page.
@@advancedleveldiagnostics Thanks so much
Hi one last Questoin. Sorry for bothering you. when you diagnosed this car for Can issues , you are disconnecting junction connector starting from gateway to the other end, when u do so(disconnecting junction connector), will not you loose the other end of terminating resistor and will not that screw the scope pattern of can high and low. I am not sure how you are able to solve this.
on most vehicles having only 1 120 resistor is enough to read the module. The pattern is not as clean if it had both, but you can usually still tell if the network is OK.
@@advancedleveldiagnostics Thanks much
When you ohmed the red to the red it was good, then you went red to the white shouldn't it have been OL not 1.7m ohm? It was hard to see the diagram
Hello, just wondering whats that wire insulation tool you have there?
I'm sorry, not sure what you are referring to. Can you tell me a time when it's visible?
oh sorry, just the tool you were using to strip that wire insulation off. @@advancedleveldiagnostics
@@alanw5879 It's made by Bluepoint. I think it's the same as the OTC one amzn.to/3GUSqBP
cool.. thank you much@@advancedleveldiagnostics
What is your background and where'd you get your training?
I started working on cars as a hobby around 6 years ago and did all the repairs for friends. Then, I became a mobile mechanic and really enjoyed diagnostics. I watched every @scannerdanner video and got the foundation for electrical diagnostics. I also subscribed to every training site I can find. Almost 3 Years ago, I started doing diagnostics for Shops exclusively, and that is the best possible training you can get.
I really appreciate you taking the time to respond...means a lot. One more thing, before you started mobile did you ever work in a shop?@@advancedleveldiagnostics
So it take a while hah I have been watching every single video of scanner danner and ph and Ats for the past 2 years and I’m not near where you are skilled wise .
A applause and ovation for you brother
I started watching yor videos for a week and found it very interesting and learning as I keep watching
I was wondering if in stead of cutting the wires can we bridge it ?
Just trying to learn.
Thanks brother
Soooooooooo my check engine light is on. I and my Triangle light is on. I took it to the dealership and they told me it was a tcm. And then they hooked a new didn't work they put a new ecm and tcm new and the light still on comes to find out they say that the display navigation system Lost communication with the. 4can well the paper says performed com bus check -display and navigation AVN bus 3 No. 4can junction connector lost communication btw it's a Toyota Camry 2018 Se
There was no way anyone else’s would figure this out.
U sound like another RUclips mechanic called watch wes work
I enjoy watching wes.
This is ridiculous why do cars have all this complicated spaceship level communication systems? It’s just a damn car
Consumers want more creature comforts but don't realise the complexities that come with the territory.
Its not your fault Boss...its intermittent problems mix with aftermarket crap😢...its no easy task...only thingnis when gets you frustrated 😤 leave it do some else and comebak to fight again😅
Too many ad interruption
only you know when its time to tap out and move on.
If you don't have oscilloscope there is another way to now corrupted network or not thank you so mush
If your very familiar with the voltage you should see on a multimeter, I guess it would be possible, but more difficult.
Looks like you found out what was going wrong but you need to take it a bit slower and explain what your doing. Cutting the wire was not necessary.
You could have removed the pins from the connector and tested it that way. If your deal is to find the issue and tell the garage owner to chase the wires to find the actual problem fine. If you have the fix the problem now its up to you to find the cause of the problem.
Main thing I find watching your videos is you really go too fast without explaining what you are doing.
Looks like you understand what you're doing but if you're going to do videos you need to slow down.
The shop ran an overlay because couldn't find the issue without pulling dash.
Dude: I know time and money situation but you would be easier to watch if you were less hyper and speed talky. Very difficult to take in this video. Slow down when talking to your audience.
Thanks for the feedback
@@advancedleveldiagnostics i was cool with the speed, if anything liked it
You just don’t know how hard it is to record be aware and work. Until you make your own you just don’t know
Also this isn’t for novice so if you are trying to learn wrong videos
@@advancedleveldiagnostics I love the speed of your videos. It makes it easier to follow along in my opinion. almost like I'm diagnosing it myself at the shop. It's cool to see your thoughts and how you process/approach problems.