Thanks heaps bro , no bullshit straight to the point . I was in 2 minds about converting my VL to electric power steering but think I'm going to give it a chance
@Plant Powered Health I wired 1 wire to accessories and the other to ignition and works fine . Had them the wrong way around to start with , just switched them and it spools up straight away now.
@@alexanderm2225 Wire one to accessories and the other to ignition , if it still won't work switch them around. Just leave it a second between switching from accessories to ignition.
I have made a module for this pump to make it start immediately, there is two turbines inside there and one needs to start a few milliseconds after the other or it causes them to stall against each other
If you connect the black wire to the red and give 12v to the blue/white a second later the pump goes to full speed straight away. Just use a delay circuit to power the blue /white
I bought one yesterday to hook up on my supercharged Hyundai Getz. Ha crazy turbine whine! The guy snipped one of them wires. It’s only got three. I sure hope this works!!
@ 0:25 it doesn't magic away the power needed to drive the power steering, instead it takes the power indirectly from the alternator instead of directly from the original belt driven pump.
@@leigh3924 ?? the engine still drives the alternator as a 'mechanical load', then converts it to electrical power, which drives the electric motor which drives the power steering by consuming that electrical power.
@@noelwhittle7922 if you think increasing the amperage draw from your alternator equates to anything more than using an existing surplus of electric current you're misinformed. Your electric system either can, or can't, handle the accessory. Here's how much HP is taken away from merely spinning the p/s accessory off the crank. An alternator by comparison doesn't experience an increase in drag or friction with load. ruclips.net/video/2nrphOdvZRY/видео.html
got one of these for buggy but can't get the thing to run ..either needs can bus hookup or oil in res ..just trying to get it to run before I mount it ..so far no cigar any thought's ?
will give it another go but am told there are two types of pump on the astra's ..one type needing can bus hookup ...got another pump lined up so will try again ...thank's for the response ...cheer's..
Hi just a quick question these astra pumps I see some people saying they are speed or pressure controlled. An example of you are driving faster the wheel requires less input is this true?
Hey mate, how have you gone long term running Automatic Transmission Fluid through the Astra pump. Has the pump survived? I have used an old Kirby Bishop box that uses automatic transmission fluid with an Astra pump that is recommended to use synthetic power steering fluid. Trying to work out which fluid would be best to use for both.
Hey mate, where does both of the hoses run into? Im deleting my mechanical ps pump pn my 2jzgte just wondering if the two hoses go to something inparticulat?
hello Leigh, thanks for sharing!! I'm converting my 80's camper to power steering and probably I'll delete the belt-driven pump in my 4x4 if everything goes well. I was wondering, in the video the pump seems very loud, is it actually loud, or was it just your garage acoustics?
@@leigh3924 hey man other question, did you put a fuse or something? I have seen people doing it, have you had any issues since you installed the system?
@@psycholor6566 car now has a modern turbo 6 cylinder. With this setup the car had a 351 cleveland. The modern 6 has its own belt driven power steering. The car had no issues with the astra system. I had a fuse in the main power from battery to pump for safety reasons
what sort of electrical power drain are you experiencing with this at idle and at full lock?. I am interested in the conversion but already have twin electric fans, fuel pump etc and am wondering if my alternator will cope?
This car has a 1200hp barra in it now. I'm running the stock barra steering pump and never had issues. Plus barras run a serpentine and you'd have to compensate for the missing pump. I don't know why you'd run this on a barra.
@@leigh3924 yes aparently when You leave it with this slow build pressure mode they last longer but sometimes is anoying when you stall car during drifting and need to wait a bit for pressure to build up.
@@leigh3924 Hello, nice project. I´m doing the same. I would like to ask you: In your experience, have you had any leaks? I mean, due to incompatibility between the pump´s gaskets supposed requirement for synthetic oil (CHF 11) and the use of Dexron III. It´s a concern for me. Thanks.
This power steering pump is shit. For normal driving maybe ok, but it wouldn't let to put quick inputs on steering wheel and hard driving is imposible.
Awesome video very helpful even a couple years later 😆 cheers mate 👍
Happy I could help
Thanks heaps bro , no bullshit straight to the point . I was in 2 minds about converting my VL to electric power steering but think I'm going to give it a chance
if you use a delay-on relay with about 1s delay to connect power to the blue/white wire, it will spin up instantly instead of the safe-mode slow spool
@Rick Kennedy never works. Don't even bother.
@Kiwi Cars Nz do tell
Wire up blue and white wire to alternator and black to 12v switched and you'll get the delay needed to get instant spool
@Plant Powered Health I wired 1 wire to accessories and the other to ignition and works fine .
Had them the wrong way around to start with , just switched them and it spools up straight away now.
@@alexanderm2225 Wire one to accessories and the other to ignition , if it still won't work switch them around. Just leave it a second between switching from accessories to ignition.
Cheers big ears. Very helpful video. I’m just about to purchase one for my EH project.
thank you Leigh . cool of you to share this.
Hoping to get more information out there for people like myself
Great video to the point good info..... I wanted to know a bit more about this conversion that seems pretty popular..... Cheers mate great job
I have made a module for this pump to make it start immediately, there is two turbines inside there and one needs to start a few milliseconds after the other or it causes them to stall against each other
Would it be possble if could share how you did it? thanks
I got here looking for this hack.. would you mind sharing it?
If you connect the black wire to the red and give 12v to the blue/white a second later the pump goes to full speed straight away. Just use a delay circuit to power the blue /white
@@icyedge4704 Thanks a lot! Gonna try it
You had me at "sounds fucking cool"
Cheers bro
+1
Sounds cool! I've got one for my GTO. Way better than the MR2 pump.
I bought one yesterday to hook up on my supercharged Hyundai Getz. Ha crazy turbine whine! The guy snipped one of them wires. It’s only got three. I sure hope this works!!
Brilliant! Time to ditch the standard power steer pump!
Great vid and info mate!
SLOW6 thanks mate
Cool video, now I can wire mine up, thanks heaps 👍
Excellent walkthrough. Is there any way to silence them a little or you dont notice when the car us running?
Never notice it
Great video man. Thank you very much 💪
Astra pump eh? I might put one of those on my 4wd. My factory one is gear driven and it keeps leaking!!
hey mate could we please see how you mounted and set your up if that possible please?
Yeah shoot me a pm
Should I run that signal straight to my ignition or put a relay in there?
I run straight to ignition and it's fine.
Thanks for posting this up.
Do you have any vids of it with the engine running?
Is it opel zafira 2000 y electric pump?
@ 0:25 it doesn't magic away the power needed to drive the power steering, instead it takes the power indirectly from the alternator instead of directly from the original belt driven pump.
Takes the mechanical load off the engine. Added 4hp. Not the point of it. Just an added bonus
@@leigh3924 ?? the engine still drives the alternator as a 'mechanical load', then converts it to electrical power, which drives the electric motor which drives the power steering by consuming that electrical power.
@@noelwhittle7922 lol, you're over thinking it or arguing semantics to be a brat
@@warmweatheronly .. another one who doesn't understand.
@@noelwhittle7922 if you think increasing the amperage draw from your alternator equates to anything more than using an existing surplus of electric current you're misinformed. Your electric system either can, or can't, handle the accessory.
Here's how much HP is taken away from merely spinning the p/s accessory off the crank. An alternator by comparison doesn't experience an increase in drag or friction with load.
ruclips.net/video/2nrphOdvZRY/видео.html
Does it run loud or was it because no engine noise it seems loud
@@howardmoana5577 can't hear it over the engine
awesome, thinking of doing same with an AU Falcon track car
Long live the mighty AU
hello....you need to do a "jump" with black and blue wire, and put it on a positive terminal? I was thinging that was on negative terminal
Follow the video
Great pump
hallo sir,can you tell me how to turn on vw polo like you turn on yours, which pin should i connect to the battery positive ?
Watch the video
Great vid mate, thanks for that 👌🏽👌🏽
Is the pump meant to be that noisy?
got one of these for buggy but can't get the thing to run ..either needs can bus hookup or oil in res ..just trying to get it to run before I mount it ..so far no cigar any thought's ?
G Pastor are you following all the wiring correctly? It should still fire without oil
will give it another go but am told there are two types of pump on the astra's ..one type needing can bus hookup ...got another pump lined up so will try again ...thank's for the response ...cheer's..
@@Mintlord Did you figure out if it needed a can bus hookup? What year was the pump that required the can bus?
Hey bud good video, so yah just use my standard vl rack with this running it ? Thanks
Yeh bro
Hi just a quick question these astra pumps I see some people saying they are speed or pressure controlled. An example of you are driving faster the wheel requires less input is this true?
Feel as a normal car
when ur at speed, does that pump bearly operate cause of the long pressures of the system?
Nope works perfectly all the time
Hey mate did the ford power steering hoses fit straight in or was there a adapter?
You've gotta make an adaptor. It's all in the video
hey man, awesome video! just wondering if you knew the size of the outlet on the PS pump. I'm going to need to buy a banjo bolt to try and fit it.
Think it's an m8
Hey mate, how have you gone long term running Automatic Transmission Fluid through the Astra pump. Has the pump survived?
I have used an old Kirby Bishop box that uses automatic transmission fluid with an Astra pump that is recommended to use synthetic power steering fluid. Trying to work out which fluid would be best to use for both.
No drams been 3 years or so
Thanks mate.
Hey mate, where does both of the hoses run into? Im deleting my mechanical ps pump pn my 2jzgte just wondering if the two hoses go to something inparticulat?
One high pressure to rack and one low pressure to box mate
hello Leigh, thanks for sharing!! I'm converting my 80's camper to power steering and probably I'll delete the belt-driven pump in my 4x4 if everything goes well. I was wondering, in the video the pump seems very loud, is it actually loud, or was it just your garage acoustics?
It is semi noisy! It is drowned out by the engine though
@@leigh3924 hey man other question, did you put a fuse or something? I have seen people doing it, have you had any issues since you installed the system?
@@psycholor6566 car now has a modern turbo 6 cylinder. With this setup the car had a 351 cleveland.
The modern 6 has its own belt driven power steering.
The car had no issues with the astra system.
I had a fuse in the main power from battery to pump for safety reasons
How loud is it ? And can you hear it when driving ?
Nah. Big 393 in there. Can't hear anything
Hey, any idea off hand what the thread size is for the output on the pump?
Leigh Conway I bought an m14 banjo bolt and that was too small 😂
its 16x1.5
@@ukspamy
M16
what sort of electrical power drain are you experiencing with this at idle and at full lock?. I am interested in the conversion but already have twin electric fans, fuel pump etc and am wondering if my alternator will cope?
Running a 110amp alternator with no issues
@@leigh3924 I'm guessing my stock 75amp alternator won't work, question is how many more amps do I need to run this pump?
@@brianashley2880 it would depend on your system.
broken 2 4x4 steering pumps because of hard turning offroad, its time for the UPGRADE
Nice videos
awesome, also have an xd, what model is the pump and where did you mount it, I'm thinking drivers side guard
On the firewall man
Great sharing mate.
Can I ask,is there any 'twitchyness'.. in it..
Or would u say there's 100% feedback..
Nope, you wouldn't even know its electric
Might do this so I don't kill barra steering pump
This car has a 1200hp barra in it now. I'm running the stock barra steering pump and never had issues. Plus barras run a serpentine and you'd have to compensate for the missing pump.
I don't know why you'd run this on a barra.
How do you know if that part does not belong to the original car
How do I know what
How to connect wiring
hey man what year is this one out of?
2004 Holden Astra
Is there any way to slow the pump down? 😊 Sounds squealing 😅
Nah, that's how they sound
What wires do you need i have 3
Watch the video
you could wire it properly and have it start straight away without waiting
And burn the motor out?
Leigh nope it does work that way in stock astra lol
Can you imagine waiting for 30 seconds till you can drive car away lol
Yes. I let this car warm up before driving anyway. Its making around 1000kw and I'd never drive it cold.
@@leigh3924 yes aparently when You leave it with this slow build pressure mode they last longer but sometimes is anoying when you stall car during drifting and need to wait a bit for pressure to build up.
What fluid are you using?
DEXIII
@@leigh3924 Hello, nice project. I´m doing the same. I would like to ask you: In your experience, have you had any leaks? I mean, due to incompatibility between the pump´s gaskets supposed requirement for synthetic oil (CHF 11) and the use of Dexron III. It´s a concern for me. Thanks.
@@leigh3924 Could you please report how this has held up and if you have any leaks using ATF/ Dex 3?
Can i run this with regular steering box?
Must be a power steering box
What is an astra?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Astra
I’m in America. That’s probably gonna be hard to find. Any ideas? Car is a 87 foxbody notchback (coupe) mustang
@@larrytemen5114 they sell the Astra in the US but its called a Saturn Astra.
Is there anyway could be silence? so loud. Lol
Nah, that's it.
I wanna get one and put under my car seat just to hear the noise
something wrong there, astras dont sound like that, maybe wiring is incorrect
They have insulation around them and aren't hard mounted in the astra.
Damn that’s one noisy pump
Sounds mint
*keeps getting louder* "I Have made a serious error..."
Da Nargh not sure what you mean. They have an internal pressure switch so will automatically stop charging when they reach the intended pressure.
This power steering pump is shit. For normal driving maybe ok, but it wouldn't let to put quick inputs on steering wheel and hard driving is imposible.
Wrong.
This is a race car and it's fine.
Thanks for watching.
Circut or Drag car?
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