Hot Hatch Head2Head #11: Golf R vs Cupra 290
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- In this episode of Hot Hatch Head2Head we see my Golf R take on the Seat Leon Cupra 290!
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I’d probably take the Cupra. I had one, lots of fun and too underrated
What do you have now?
@@Whiponized BMW 340i touring.
@@93sal nice
Exactly
Golf R owner was a right doyle.
What does that mean?
Not a fan of the Golf R owner’s smugness
I gave this vid a dislike and here is why;
1) is loud = better? You already knew the cupra has been forced to sound less loud, so why test it?
2) from standing to 100, 2wheel vs 4 wheel, why at all test that?
3) this vid seems more like a vw showoff vid where an opponent is chosen where you knew you would win, you even chosen someone who doesnt seem excited about the car.
4) the whole vid, the cupra is spoken about like “its ok” and “not bad”.
5) handling is t testet at all.
6) a point is given simply for the fact that the power to weight ratio on paper is higher for the vw ... ?
Who came up with this test?
When i find a new channel, i see a few vids before i chose wether to follow or not. This vid decided it for me: do not follow.
He was clearly bullied when younger, sorry clearly bullied so this is his way of winning.
Tonseren, as a Cupra 300 owner I agree with your comments. I have driven a golf r and it was less fun to drive and looks dull compared to a GTD /GTI never mind a Cupra.The Cupra feels more lively and looks far better outside and I personally prefer the interior in the Cupra, the seats in the golf R look dull , I prefer the interior in the GTI compared to the R . I can also confirm that a Cupra will gap a golf R 30 to 70 etc.. every time ! P.S. my car is stock the only thing I have changed are the tyres from P Zero’s to Michelin Pilot Sport 4’s ..... I can recommend all Cupra owners to swap to PS4s they transform the car and grip the road like no other .... absolute must for front wheel drive.
@@Bobbajobb956 As Cupra owners, mine's a 2017 290 5 door manual, we are a little biased possibly. I too drove the Golf R before deciding on the Cupra because it's a whole lot more fun and worked out a lot cheaper. The only mods I've made are the Pilot Sport 4S tyres and a RacingLine foam filter. Totally right re the tyres they transform the handling in every way, not just the grip but in placing the car and awesome turn in under power. Obviously the R is quicker 0 - 60 but in the real world what difference does that make, the Cupra's in gear acceleration is what really matters. As for the "pops and bangs" mine certainly does that running on 99 octane as long as it is fully warmed up. Overall a brilliant car for the money.
When my car was stock I race S3 and two Golf's R, of course they have an advantage at the start, but when you race from rolling start none of these cars have a chance with Cupra. And most of the races I had were from a flying start anyway.
@@TollyBoy666 Couldn't agree more, I also looked at a golf R, GTI before buying my 290. Much more fun.
I have a 2019 Cupra 290 and it pops and bangs on the overrun in Sport or Cupra mode so he must have had it in Comfort.
Same here mate mine after 5000 is v loud popping
Getting rid of the resonator/centre silencer brings it to life.
i heard that the 5 door cupra has more silencers, that's why it's so shite in the vid
Rolling race the cupra gaps the golf r everytime
Sure does...
@@vincesplc Sarcastic or not? If you are then the guy is correct. The Cupra will always beat the Golf R on a rolling race. Done it plenty of times in my cupra 280.
JustBlinkMe1 sarcastic?? I agree with matey cupra nicer looking car find the golf boring and cupra quicker rolling race!
No chance, don't lie to yourself
@@justanotherguy972 No chance to what exactly?
The lad with the Golf is a complete pratt. The way he compares a 4WD car to a FWD car is just moronic and yet he looks so gleeful and happy with himself for pointing out the obvious. The way he has set up the whole video is like it is just a video to put down the Seat. Very very frustrating to watch
Late reply but you know people reach out to him for these head to heads? Not the other way around? It’s not like he searches around for people he’s going to beat, he’s done videos where people have beat him
@@jamesolsen2137
They’re just crying and throwing tantrums. It’s pathetic
Good video. Keep them up.
I've got a 290 Cupra with 4000 miles on the clock and the exhaust definitely 'beds in' and I get loads of pops and bangs, even with the GPF.
I'd also recommend introducing a more real world test of in gear performance, such as 30-70. I have a feeling the weight / 4wd combination would have given and interesting result here.
I'm happy to do a follow up video taking these factors into account.
I also have a friend with a stage 1 M235i who is intrigued to comparing the cars.
Finally the cupra is 290 ps so only 286hp so the hp/ton figure you gave is slightly off
Even if the Golf is a clear winner, i would take the Cupra , c'se it's more beautiful.
Curbed 2 months into ownership? Careless
😂😂😂😂 I literally just wrote the same comment
The Cupra looks more sleek with the door mounted side mirrors and the continuous windows on the driver and passenger front.
Do a rolling race and I bet that Cupra would've won. They defo don't put out 290 standard either(more like 300), they weigh 100kg lighter but have the same engine and dsg box for a lot less money.
Also less power loss
Golf Rs are shite
Cupra is fwd. Doesnt grip in low gears.... need a st 4 drive, and then yes eats the golf
@@lastnamefirstname520 unless a rolling start, then it wins without 4wd
not the same engine either.
Acctually quite similar cars....sounds absolutely 👌.
They are... Literally the same car.
Literally made by the same people
@@RsDv5 Turkish immigrants vs North African immigrants?
When I see you two guys, I can't imagine you with that cars!!
0-100 km/h with 2 different drive (front vs 4x4)?! Why didn't you tried 100-200, than you will see real winner!
I'm sure it's been said but Cupras have identical engine hardware and software map seems to give golf R power as well. I just had my 2016 Cupra 290 remapped to APR stage 1. The stock run was 317hp and 303lbft. I know you can't take dyno as gospel but a golf R went on the dyno after mine and made 309hp and 301lbft.
you can pretty much get the cupra for half the price of the golf R on a private lease. I like the golf R a little more but not enough to justify paying double.
way off on the figures there btw.
Holtii14 still probably wouldn’t pay the extra £100-170 extra a month for a golf R, imo anyway
Holtii14 it’s not way off mate, I pay £208 a month for my Cupra, golf r is around 345 at the mo with a higher initial payment of around £200
@@snapsyphotoboothhire Was that a new cupra?
Yes mate , had it a few weeks
Tyres would and will make a HUGE difference, especially in a front wheel drive. I have a 2016 Golf GTI Performance and the original Bridgestones where really awful. I'm surprised VW fit then from new 😳 I changed them to the MICHELIN Pilot Sport 4 and it completely transformed the car. The grip is amazing, you can now launch it with minimal wheel hop and the wet grip is so much better. To say tryes won't make much of a difference means you just haven't experienced it. Great comparison video 👍🏻😊
As an owner of a Cupra 290 I can honestly say on 2 occasions I have floored an R from a rolling start. No mods pure stock model. Some of these comparisons are not real world, however all the other tests and challenges between these cars proves the Cupra to come out on top in agility and speed round a track FOR A FW drive car. Maybe next time test that....
The cupra engine runs the golf R warm weather map, so for countries that are hotter than uk by a lot the golfs have 280-290bhp that’s all basically difference between them … I like a cupra but have a golf R at 388bhp the 4 wheel drive is a must on big power oh and the constant rain the Uk has 😆😆
Interesting video, I have a Cupra 300 and while off the line slip, in the real world in gear acceleration whilst rolling is fantastic and should have done some 30-50 and 50-70 runs, also going to a race track should have done some lap times, but did seem loaded towards to Golf R
Been waiting for this for a while, love the cupra!!
5.7 seconds was very impressive!
30-70mph the cupra would have it.
Its a strange one the Leon is one of the rare cars where the face-lift looks worse than the original. It was the same with the Integra DC5.
So if you both 2nd r and Cupra the Cupra is quicker to a ton?
@@sophiawoods6748yeah it's lighter and doesn't have Haldex losses.
I've owned both.
Thank you for making me waste a few minutes of my life.
Personally I don’t want my car popping like a 17 year old boy racer’s. The Cupra is better looking, understated, and fwd more fun to drive much like the golf gti, it’s a more grown up car. Cheaper insurance and not a magnet for car thiefs. The Golf R is for sheer speed and brute force while the Cupra and gti are more a drivers car.
I have a 2017 Golf R in Lapiz Blue. We don't have Seat in the U.S., but this Cupra is a very handsome car indeed. I'd still have the Golf, mind you, solely for the AWD since even a GTI with 220 horse power spends too much of its time spinning it's front wheels... But I'd have definitely cross shopped my R against this Seat if I had the opportunity to.
Cupra has VAQ which manages the wheel slip well. The Cupra is basically a Golf GTI TCR but cheaper.
Cupra beats the Golf R on track.
Having said that, I’d still take a Golf R.....just not this one.
That green wrap and green VW steering wheel badge make me feel 🤢
Pass me a bucket 🤮
And personally I prefer the 7 over the 7.5 because I can’t stand those shite digital clocks.
Truly awful.
So glad you did this I picked up my black cupra 290 today!
Chris Stott join the Facebook Cupra group if you haven’t already mate
CUPRA FTW! LOVE THAT CAR
Great video as always Luke but you need to finish the wrap inside your car door mate !!
This should have been done with a Cupra 300 that overruns properly. GPF kills everything even on the new golfs.
iD3JXY I agree
I have a cupra 300 st 4drive. As close to a golf r as u can get
Unfortunately the owner didn’t realise that on a cold start up the 2019 Cupra as standard won’t pop and crackle. After a minute or so or when warm it will in Sport or Cupra (DSG sport). It’s loud too.
Launch control flops.
The Cupra can be quicker when rolling on against the R or S3 but depends on other factors too. In the wet the Cupra obviously won’t be as sure footed.
And u forget The Rolling race? And The price? Both Will The cupra win a golf R
The Cupra will be my next car
I’m 100% a cupra fan, if my insurance wasn’t so bad I’d probs look into one. Thinking of a Leon FR next
The back of cupra looks so ugly
Not sure the Cupra owner was using launch control correctly. TC off fully (press and hold), gearbox in ‘S’. Foot on brake and wait for Launch Control Activated message on dash. Launch control will not enable on my Cupra 300 in “manual” DSG mode.
He didn’t put traction control in off mode 👎🏻
Lol I just placed an order for the 290 Lux for 290 depo 290 a month. That's cheap in my books also a win for the seat. Cracking car and cracking price. Better spec than the R
Where did you order that? That’s a crazy good deal
@@FearTech167 That was a conker deal. Current standard spec car is 3x23 £280. The residuals changed, low stock and long delivery means the current offer (while not as good) is decent. New Cupra won't be on road till late sept and any decent deals will be £70pm more..
@@NathanTEG That sound not too bad bro, you got a bargain deal. Could you direct me to where you leased yours from ? Got a website for me?
On A RR the new 290 was putting out over 300bhp, seems to be the same output across the range, R, S3 etc.
I also find launch control useless in my Cupra. Better just to floor it from tick over
Seat is a better looking car, that R looks like a tired booger.
Back of the cupra is so ugly, golf r all the way better class 4 wheel drive quicker car
You need to get my 300 cupra on the channel
Its a pity they didnt make this Cupra hatchback AWD. I believe it was a decision so as not to take buyers away from the R and S3 as it would have been a lot cheaper. My choice would be the estate version 300 ST to get the AWD.
Exactly the same car pretty much, only the cupra is about 10 grand cheaper for near enough the same performance. & the golf r doesnt have 310 hp. it's actually 298.
What app do you use to measure 0-60 times.
I've got a cupra 300 2018 with dsg and digital cockpit. I've owned a golf r and now seat. Yes the golf r much more extras and interior as well as 4 wheel drive it is a great car but if we go value to power then I'm going with my seat everyday 👍🏻. Seat is a very fun car it struggles planting power from stand still but when rolling traction is no longer a issue and the car shifts 👌🏻 personally I love it
You can still get the pops and bangs in the cupra it just has to be in sport or cupra mode, I had a test drive in one over the weekend and you can get the sounds, big selling point so I ended up getting one within 2 months
I’ve got the “19 Cupra Lux too, if you had in Cupra the pops and bangs would’ve been happening. You’s probably had it in Comfort...
Bit of a random question, does yours have ambient lighting on the interior? I've ordered mine but not sure what it's coming with.
Wish the Seat was 4wd like Golf, then would be best looking and probably better to drive too. Not keen on the ST model as don't like estates, hopefully next Leon will be 4wd, hybrid even, fingers crossed.
Just tell us you can’t jock a car lad…it’s okay
Turned off when you said “been a minute”.
Absolutely, loving cupra guys I was so loved golf before but now huge fan of seat Leon what a good suspension look at design and how it manufactured.
I thought the 290 were closer to 305/310? As I understand it they have the same engine performance as the Golf R and the mapping isn't that exact across the two? Also you should be doing a rolling challenge if your doing 0-60. Test is a bit frigged.
I have the sister car to his, cupra exactly the same.....
One letter out at the end of the reg
Why do you keep acting like your car is better? The golf has the launch and that’s about it, on track and rolling the seat is faster every single time.
Do Golf R vs Scirocco R
I'd take the cupra because it's a sleeper and nobody expects it. The R has a name for itself and people know what it is. On a rolling start the Cupra is also quicker as you lose the 4wd advantage and the R is over 100kg heavier with drivetrain losses too.
You should add a category to your test; price when new; the Cupra would win that by a good margin. And that’s why it’s actually the winner over the Golf. You get 99.9% of a Golf’s performance, the same interior, and a far more handsome looking car, for a lot less. Given the cost of fuel today, and not to mention the Cupra is better on mpg, the balance can go into the tank, so you’ve got incredible value for money. Also, given that Golf is 4wd, I’d be interested to see what a 2wd GTI’s performance would be. I suspect a lot closer if not worse than the Cupra.
I've got a 2019 Cupra. I've done 18K in mine now and whilst in Cupra and Manual mode it does pop in overun even after 15min of driving when provoked but it is not that loud but that does not really bother me it sounds OK in the car with the windows open. Compare vehicles that are modern with the Petrol Particulate filter.
And Kill the fake engine noise via OBD.
now this is a much better head2head! in a rolling race think 290 would of won
No taking into account the price?
Thanks for letting me know to get the 2018 model! Much love
When you do a kerb weight do you take into account that the cat removed is less weight than the decatted straight pipe?
Change your midpipe on the Cupra put a resonator delete 130 quid makes all the difference!
7:10 looks like dad and his son lmao
Surely you mean "290" hp compared to 310.
Everyone knows the cupra has the same power as the R.
Please do it again with a Pre-ppf car with a res-delete as the results will be much more comparable
The mk7.5 R has 306 bhp stock
@@lucylouisewood my cupra kills everything. Heavily modded though
@@thepenetrator2006 didn’t say it wasn’t quick just stating the golf on ‘paper’ has more bhp
More hp but not faster check that 0-200 cupra 290 wins golf r
FINALLLYYYYYY 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
my 300 sounds so much better than the new 290, even before the res delete, although the 2nd gen digital cockpit is nice than the 1st gen :(
Car looks sick in that colour! But please get the door sills done as well 😭
0:25 keep pressing the time on my comment, thank me later
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What the fuck u on about
Bit loaded to the Golf R i think , Cupra looks better will be more fun and on the move 30-70 ect probably quicker. I have a M135i N55 and see Golf Rs everywhere but when i see a Cupra its like oh look a Cupra .... mmm nice.
Does anyone know if the cupras now have ambient lighting in the back passengers doors now or is it just the front ones?
Great vid Luke.. it's crazy how much the 4drive makes a difference between the fwd and 4drive cupra st... It's 4.9secs.. be great if u could review one...
How long does the cupra 290 take to bed in, before you can hear the pops and bangs from the exhaust?
Bro i have a leon curpa r290 and first of all you have a timer in the cor for countdown 0-100 and second you need to know how to drive the car 0-100 is not 5 i done less much less and i have it manual
I have a cupra 300 and it sounds way better than this even on standstill no mods.
Hey, what kind of GPS tracker are u using for ur timetracking? And app as well. Thx
Hi, can you compare your R with Octavia VRS? Interesting to see how it will work...
Yes! I run a vrs 245 manual and absolutely love it ! ..Good economy too
How many miles does the Golf have compared to the Cupra ?
Cupra probably not even broken in.
Why did the cupra not pop? They do pop mine popps 🙄
Another comment suggested had it in comfort mode
Well he definitely didn’t have it in cupra 😂
You presume they are both 2.0ltr turbos? They are basically the same cars. Increase your basic car knowledge FFS.
Evren Sokmener shadaaaaap
Ones front wheel drive and a lot lighter. Get your facts right before you give people shit
@@th3chrisstott read my original comment.
@@hampshirephoto really?
Compare Golf R Variant vs Cupra ST 4drive
That golf isnt standard so no really a good review..
What decibel meter do you use
Opf cars are actually better programmed to pop and bang cause injecting fuel into the exhaust and making it pop cleans the opf. The owner sis not have his car in cupra mode.
Nothing beats good old NA engines with a lot of capacity in terms of pure sound. Everything is fake these days 🥵
Unicate Inc. turbos has the best sound/power
Electric Tesla beats your shitbox na engine
Always find these comparison videos bizarre
Don’t watch them then
@@hampshirephoto always biased towards your car.
It’s as if you trying to justify your purchase if that’s the case what a sad little geek of a boy
Is that golf standard?
Manual launch on cupra could be better
DSG 😍
Better Golf ?? Its moss expensive 50%.. I dont think the same. The track say another thing.
Tosser
This is the best video I ve seen in a long time, and I ve seen a lot, vrey relevant ! Keep going because you do exactly what pepople want to see/know !
Nice video, and nice cars! The 2019 Cupra 290 does pop on the overrun though: ruclips.net/video/waFljq7YE8Q/видео.html
Maybe not as loud as the Golf R, but there's definitely pops.
Do a roll
Race se what happens then
Nothing about how they drive. Seriously. Why didn't you call it a stats and sound face of? 😐
Shame is every man and his dog got a golf r these days. Don’t see many cupra’s around.
Golf R is significantly heavier
4x4 always
love hot hatch;.... i have MK7 vw golf GTi with 19 inch wheels
I have a 2019 wltp golf r if like my golf wait till your cupra gets to 99 or 100c them put into race or sport and then see if it Pops and over run mine does will get a video for you 😁👍
ruclips.net/video/3Ihhocvr_RU/видео.html 👍
Golf quicker
Cupra better looking
I'd have the cupra if it was a mk2
The lad who owns the cupra is a bit clueless imo...