I know this video is a couple of years old, but as a beginner/aspiring videographer, the video was so comfortable for me to digest and retain information. The talking speed, even though a bit fast maybe for some, was fine to me, because the information quality was like a scalpel without unnecessary rambling. Very precise, thank you. Great video!
Just upgraded to the A7C from A6300 and this is exactly the kind of video I was looking for! Really well explained especially about using S-log for the sake of using S-log, subbed for more A7C content 👌🏽
Nice upgrade Badi and thank you! I'm glad it helped and hopefully you enjoy the coming A7C content. Let me know if there's anything you'd like to see in particular :)
Thank you for this video, I just picked up my A7c two days ago right before I go on a trip. The standard settings is going to help me on my vacation trip as I plan on doing some recording.
Glad it helped! Congratulations on your A7C and I'm learning the camera with you haha. But let me know if any questions pop up so we can figure it out together. :)
You are so real and to the point. Your comparison shots are so informative and well edited they don't need too much explanation. Theres no need for flamboyant antics, and your views are fresh, and beyond the cookie cutter standard. Please teach us more. Could I request something similar with the A7C for shooting photography? As a new user it is overwhelming navigating the world of 'shooting RAW and editing in Lightroom'.
Thanks a lot Jonathan, that means a lot! I'll see what I can come up with for photography though admittedly I don't take too many photos or use too many features. I definitely remember Lightroom being overwhelming though--feel free to reach out if you have any specific questions in the mean time!
Excellent video. I just shot a couple tests using your settings for Standard and SLog2, and it really made an improvement to my footage. Now my A7C has gained even more value, even with just 8-bit recording abilities. Thanks so much. Cheers. (Oh, and I subscribed.)
This is, almost, the video i needed. I would love if you could retake this topic about A7C and video settings, profiles, etc. since i bouth this camera as my first camera ever and all the videos i have made were made by using my smartphone and camera video recording is a different world. Thanks in advance!!!
Congrats on the A7C! I'm not too sure what you're asking for. Are you looking for camera basics such as Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO? Or setup in the menu? The former can be found on RUclips; just search for "how to shoot manual in video" or you can watch some old videos I made: ruclips.net/p/PLSzAIFFv_LQhD9vx_yPtvhOh__7ITsU00 The latter I can try to help with, but it might be worth searching for "Sony menu setup" as I feel like I've seen a couple of those videos floating around. Thanks!
@@boywithacamera thank you so much for answering!! Well, i’m interested in any type of tip/advice/guide for creating different videos (indoor, outdoor, low light, golden hour, blue hour, landscape, product, night, day...) so anything you can teach is something to pay back with a great meal when you come to Spain 😄
I really like your way of looking at things. I know I won't be using the A7C (or any Sony camera) anytime soon, but I watched the video nonetheless just because I like how you look and think about things. There is always a little nugget of knowledge that is making it worth it.
This was an awesome video man! I like the way you breakdown this advice. I’m a new A7C user and this is perfect! Looking forward to your future videos.
Thank you so much for this video, it's the best I've found so far that I found not as overwhelming and easy to understand. It would be really nice to see a video of from beginning to to end (filming settings to post-production work) :).
Dude awesome video! made me tear up at the end cuz i've been putting way to much pressure on myself whether shooting in the standard profile or other picture profiles like an Slog2
This was an important video for me. 1) I am choosing between the S5 vs A7C for my long distance hiking videos and gear reviews and 2) When I do landscape hiking videos, I am seeking simplicity in post production. A professional on RUclips, Kraig Adams actually used the standard profile on his Sony shooting (A7III and A6600)! He has 500k subscribers lol
S5 looks like a phenomenal camera! Which one are you leaning towards? And simplicity in post production is such an important thing to keep in mind. Did not know he was using standard! His videos are always top-notch--I definitely gotta catch up on his newer stuff.
@@boywithacamera I want the Panasonic 10bit and colors, but I need a 16-17mm wide lens that won't cost 1400$. 20mm on that S5 kit lens isn't wide enough. I'll probably go A7C (a ton of professional YT'ers were JUST using a A7III) since I think it's good enough for me. Pair it with the Tamron 17-28 and I should be good for landscape video of me walking on trail.
Most, if not all of your color issues with SLOG are due to the fact that you’re using S Gamut. This was debunked a while ago, ITU709 matrix is the way to go. Fixes the color issues.
I ignored your warning on the audio jack and pulled the trigger at B&H. I’m really intimidated by post production but I’m going to try this and see what I can do. Excited to get out of my comfort zone and master this camera. Love the deep thought on is SLog2 even worth it for most.
Congrats Tucker, super excited for you! I still need to check if my unit is an anomaly--thankfully the audio from my shoots this week seems to be all good so it's not a glaring issue. I'm sure yours will be fine. Let me know if you ever need help with post-production, I'd be glad to offer any help I can. Great mindset with the comfort zone and mastering the camera. It's surprising how many little I knew about some cameras I've owned before. Taking the time to learn its quirks and features will absolutely be beneficial.
@@boywithacamera thanks so much. I might take you up on this. I need to rewatch this video and take notes or just change the settings as I watch it and then get out and shoot. The menu system I’m still struggling with a little bit getting more and more use to it everyday. Thanks for this vid.
@@boywithacamera well I made all the changes and I’m at 4:49 in the video. I need to again take notes and test this out this weekend. Thanks for this video. I’m ready to start really using this camera.
@@boywithacamera 4:48 after selecting custom 2 under zebras are you going into function to adjust iso or do you have a short cut for iso? Sorry for the newb questions.
@@TuckerPearce Don't apologize Tucker! I can see why that looks confusing. Ignore Fn, I think my thumb just hovered over that by mistake. I'm just pressing the default ISO button (right on the dial) and then pressing up and down. Let me know if that makes sense!
bruh... lol I've had the A7C for about a month now and have probably spent 100hours watching Gerald Undone, DunnaDidIt, and countless other channels talk about Picture Profiles and Dynamic Range, color science, etc. I have also been testing and filming shit around my house and outside testing out different settings, then bringing it back into Premiere, trying out tons of input corrective luts (HLG/Slog/Cine --> rec709) and creative luts. Then literally tonight, I decided that Standard is what I am going to use going forward. One hour later, I came across your channel starting with your video about why you sold your A7S iii, and later came upon this video and I wish I had saw this video sooner lol. It was a fun science experiment nonetheless, but I feel so much better knowing that I can focus on what matters, instead of having my head always thinking about exposure and colors, and then the work that will be needed after, etc. I'm digging your channel, subbed. Keep it going :]
Haha I went down that rabbit hole too so I know the journey all too well! It's definitely nice to get to know the different profiles, but once you can get comfortable with using one and learn how to make it work, it's so nice to just focus on other things like you said. Hope Standard is working out for you! Cheers and Happy New Year :)
@@boywithacamerai'm a little surprised you did not find a suitable alternative with one of the HLG color profiles as a starting point. thank you for the effort and the sharing. stay well. thumbs up.
@@smalltalk.productions9977 Hey smalltalk, thanks for your time! I'm sure the HLG profiles are solid since everyone recommends them. I also tested out the settings that Elias posted here (the Cody Blue? settings) and it looks great! I just noticed that I was always changing the hue of the yellow so skipping that step by shooting in Standard just makes things more efficient for me. Still open to HLG though and might give it another go in the future!
Can you make a video comparing your A7C with the FX3. No picture profile, Slog and 4:2:0 vs 4:2:2 difference? Or maybe how A7C compliments the FX3 in your use case?
Dunna Dit It used a different Color Mode. So, im not sure if the saturation still applies. Others are saying to use ITU709 - which I tried, and the colors look really weird in my test shots
Thank you for this. I personally find that I usually have to bring down the luminance of reds in my image to get better skin tones when shooting Slog2 (no matter the saturation setting). Why I shoot Slog2? I'm coming from RAW photography, so it seems to me that I should be recording in a setting with the most information, but maybe you are right, I will definitely try Standard on a smaller project.
Great video although it is old, it is still very informational. Can you tell me what did you use for your 4K detail and what level did you use for your HD detail ? I still have the Sony A7iii
Thank you! Ah darn I do not and I don’t have the X-T4 anymore. When I did have it I just exposed F-Log by eye to protect my highlights and threw on the Eterna lut. But I’d search for how to best expose F-Log since that’ll give you the best results. Hope you find out!
The a7c is a good camera! I also have that camera. I'm excited because it's so light and compact. This video was very interesting! I will come to play again. With love from Japan :)
Great vid. Have you ever gotten into using Cine modes? I figured out that Cine4 gives me pretty good results out of camera with little need of tweaking. I use it in combo with S-Gamut3.cine, black bumped up to +2 and saturation +5.
Thank you! I haven't really gotten too deep into the Cine modes but I've often heard people swearing by them, so they seem to be solid. Lately I've been getting more into colour grading though so log profiles seem easier to work with at this point! Just what I'm used to now :)
Yep, you got it! I'm also finding that you can set a lower value for C1 + Standard. So C1 = 70 for S-Log2, but you can go for 60 or 65 with Standard. Regardless, I'd say these are just starting points so play around with it and take mental notes of how your images are when you are editing. Hope that clears things up. :)
Very helpful thanks! I'm exactly the target demographic you talked about - I do some video but really don't want to go hardcore into settings and color grading, and would rather spend my time on other things. This gets me to a good starting point I think!
Hey Phil, that's great to hear! Thank you for your time and agreed, I'm placing a lot more value in a quick and efficient starting point nowadays. Cheers!
@@boywithacamera Hey have you mayhaps found a way to map ISO to one of the dials? I found something in a temporary? my dial setting that I have to call up with a button (haven't quite figured that out yet) but would like to just replace shutter speed with iso in video mode, since the shutter will usually be the last thing I change...
@@PhilKnall Hey Phil, hmm I actually haven't thought to try that for some reason. I just glanced at the menu though and it does seem like the only way to customize the dials is to go into the My Dial setting, but it sounds like that doesn't solve the problem for you. Sorry, I wish I could be of more help!
The tamron and the sigma lenses don’t have Image stabilization like the kit lens which is something I really wanted for my gym videos. Do you think they’re still much better? What do you think is the best option for me?
So we are looking very closely at this camera (a7c) for our 1st camera to start shooting content for our YT and podcast. We will primarily be "talking heads" for the podcast and then almost entirely indoor shooting for our YT in our custom apparel shop.. my question is will this be the right camera for us
The autofocus and unlimited recording time should work great for you! If you can rent one for a day you'll have a better idea whether or not the camera will work for you, but if that's not possible then this should be more than good enough to get started.
@@boywithacamera thx went ahead and ordered one today. Might order 1 or 2 more for the type of setup I'm going for. Appreciate your videos and feedback
Great video dude! Been trying to figure out what profile to shoot on my 6400. I've liked the CINE4 lately, and with some customization it does shoot a nice flat image with good dynamic range. I find that I'm not a fan of S.Gama.Cine. The magenta in the skin is too strong in low light. As far as the answer to the "why shoot in the non standard?" question. For me I've been trying to get better at editing and color grading, and getting my own look in things. Having that flexibility really helps.
One more quick thing: with my CINE4 for a little more flexibility, but also for a little easier to use than SLOG I use the following settings, if anyone wants to try them out. (Credit to Cody Blue) Black Level: +2 Gamma: Cine4 Black Gamma: Wide +4 Knee: Manual, 80% +2 Color Mode: Pro Sat: -5 Color Phase: 0 Color Depth: R +3 G +1 B -1 C -4 M -4 Y +3 Detail: -6
Hmm I'm going to have to get on Cine4 and really try it out! And for the shots at 7:09 and 7:21 does the S-Log2 skin look too magenta to you? Those are at like...12800 and 5000 ISO if I remember correctly and I didn't change any hues. I'm wondering if the colours have changed a lot since the 6400 or if I need to recalibrate my display ahha. And true! It's definitely a skill that's nice to have. I think I'm just getting lazier as time goes and I'm digging a more neutral and 'standard' look. Glad you have something that works for you and I'm going to see if I can get some time in with Cine4. Thanks Elias!
@@boywithacamera I'm not sure if it's changed much. That being said, the sensor is a lot larger on the A7C anyways, so it might just be better. As far as those 2 time stamps: the skin tones look nice and natural, but you do have warmer skin tones than me naturally, and a lot of the magneta I've noticed is when I film my wife. She is blonde and has very pale skin naturally. So it might just be a natural skin tone thing. Not sure. The reason i chose cine4 is that it's a little more contrasty and makes maintaining skin tones easier for me as a newish editor. I'd be curios to hear your thoughts on it!
@@elias_nichols Okay thank goodness--I thought my eyes or display was entirely off! Ahh that makes a lot of sense. The recommended exposure for different skin tones varies too so might be worth looking deeper into that too. Can't wait to test Cine4! Just need to find something new to shoot amidst this pandemic haha. Shooting trees can only go so far!
Does it offer more dynamic range than the examples shown in the video? I briefly mention HLG2 at 7:06--is HLG3 the same in terms of colour and range? I really wasn't a fan of having to shift yellows and oranges if I'm already happy with the colours out of Standard.
I just ordered the camera and wondering if I just shot it on auto can The picture come out good as well without the setting. I am a noob at this. Can this camera beat the iPhone 12max pro? For easiest.
Congrats on the new camera! The default standard shots in the video are probably close to what you would get on auto. I'd take some time to learn how to shoot manual though, I made some videos a while ago going over basic exposure: ruclips.net/p/PLSzAIFFv_LQhD9vx_yPtvhOh__7ITsU00 Hope that helps!
Thank you sir. Very good video. I shoot a full wedding in standard mode which this adjustments and the result is a perfect footage. Yes, I lose a little bit of dynamic range but more than 90% of the mortals won’t notice that if you know how to shoot. Thank you again. Hey, one cuestión, this work for the a7iv? I’m planning to buy that cámara.
That's awesome! Hmm A7IV I think SLog3 will be better since you'll get the dynamic range and it's a 10-bit codec. But for quick turnarounds I'm sure the Standard profile will look great.
Do you care to share your audio processing pls. Loved the voice and want to know what equipment u have and how it's recorded and processed. Thanks a lot and really appreciate ur hep
I have this camera and know NOTHING. I am just trying to sit in front and talk. Not sure if these setting are for that or for making other types of content. Can you help me?
I need to get the A7C since it's the combination of my two cameras (A7SII and A6500). I actually avoid S-Log since I'm not doing crazy color grades and rather use Cine-4 Picture Profile. I have two different customized settings that I'll use depending on my Frame Rate. I might have to give S-Log a try after hearing your tips for proper exposure!
Yeah Cine4 seems to be a really popular option! I just did a shoot with the 7c and my second shooter had the original 7s, but it seems like the S-Log2 out of the 7c is a lot cleaner? Could be the proper exposure too, but worth taking a look into if you're interested in grabbing the C. Let me know how the SII S-Log2 looks when you expose this way, I'm really curious!
@@boywithacamera It's possible that the 7C got an updated S-Log or the Sensor/internal components are better suited for it. Either way I'll have to give it a try and hopefully can get my hands on an A7C soon!
Appreciate you! It should be really similar--give it a go and see if the standard settings work for you. I'm assuming it has 10-bit S-Log3 which would require a similar way to expose but you wouldn't need to tweak the saturation settings of S-Log3. I also created a LUT for S-Log3 that is best used for properly exposed/white balanced footage: joonrho.com/shop/p/base-lut-sony-s-log3
Why I want to use color profiles (slog2) is because my gym have a lot of LED lights that are green/purple. These makes the skin tone look terrible imo and I want to push them towards looking more natural, is this a good use of color profiles, or should I just shoot standard mode? For example I have dialed magenta color depth back to -5 or -6
The solution is more oriented to colour grading, but if the light source is green/purple, it's going to be tough to get the skin tones looking right without affecting the entire image. If you're working with 8-bit footage, you probably won't be able to push the colours that extreme so I'd suggest working around with the White balance settings. I believe you can push the white balance to Magenta or Green to counteract some of that light in the gym. If it's a mix of both though, you most likely will need to choose one. I haven't played around with the Color Depth setting, but I think that's a good idea too. Combining that with the White Balance settings might get you closer to where you want to be.
Thousands of videos and hours wasted until I found this video. THANKS THANKS THANKS A THOUSAND TIMES. I changed from Canon to Sony and all this of PP and Slogs had me already Tired. I'm working on a podcast and your audio sounds grate. A tutorial on how to achieve it would be useful
Thank you for the amazing comment! I've got a few audio videos up on the channel I think--maybe give it a quick search and if you can't find something feel free to hit me up :)
Thank you! I’m gonna have to watch this several times to really get what you’re saying lol as I’m getting acquainted with my a7c. What about the cine profiles? Would love to hear what you would have to say about them
Thank you for your time! Let me know if any questions come up as you watch :) There are a few other comments here talking about the cine profiles so you can get a few more perspectives. I personally think they're great for dynamic range and a lot of people seem to love them, but I'm not a fan of how the yellows and oranges are rendered. It takes more time when I'm editing to fix those colours so I just stick with the profiles shown in this video. Hope that helps!
10x! great tips. what about hlg3 profile? many users shoot hlg3 because it has good dynamic range and it also easy to use and expose rather then slog2, and the sooc is also great.
Thanks Avi! On the back of the screen it looks like HLG2 and HLG3 are really similar to one another so I'm not too sure on the specifics. I used to only shoot HLG3 on the A7III and remember liking it because of the reasons you mentioned. But after beginning to expose with Zebras I find S-Log2 to be easy to work with and the A7C lowlight is so good that even if you're overexposing in lowlight it looks really good. Main thing for me is the weird yellows and oranges in HLG, which is better in S-Log2 and completely gone when shooting in Standard. Hope that helps!
@@avishmayovitsh5038 No luts, I usually just do everything in the Basic Correction tab: +contrast, whites/highlights down to 80-85 IRE, shadows/blacks down to 5ish IRE. Then fine tuning in Color Wheels and maybe shifting the yellows towards orange a bit. If I'm feeling ambitious then I'll play around with curves and then do HSL Secondary to dial in the skin. I might just be lazier with my image though haha, but this seems to work quickly for me!
Hello! Thank you for you advices. Just bought it recently for filming family. I am amazed by S-Log2 and find very beautiful "as is", I don't add contrast on post. Was dissapointed to see ugly blocks happens on dark blue, not even underexposed. For me, as CGI-compositing-artist it's a pain to see this, still happy with this camera because of brilliant autofocus and nice colors overall.
Thanks for your time :) It's definitely a great camera for filming family. CGI-compositing sounds very cool--going for a 10-bit codec with your next camera should get rid of those blocks!
Hi, great video. On the second shooting tab (key option), I don't have zebra level (4:43). What can I do ? I have reset to fabric settings too. What can I do now?
Good video essay, my man. Could you upscale your videos to 2k/4k so that you use VP09 codec?(check in stats for nerds) The compression is better with this codec and we can appreciate the footage with less compression artifacts.
I see you mention standard profile and Slog2 but what about easier picture profiles to work with for the rest of us who want to grade footage, apply LUTs, etc.? Just picked up an A7C, I've been using Cine4 for my A6400 for 2 years--I'm curious what you would recommend between Cine4 and HLG2 / 3? Thanks!
I know this video is a couple of years old, but as a beginner/aspiring videographer, the video was so comfortable for me to digest and retain information. The talking speed, even though a bit fast maybe for some, was fine to me, because the information quality was like a scalpel without unnecessary rambling. Very precise, thank you. Great video!
Bro the algorithm blessed me with your channel today and MAN your stuff is fire. Cant wait for more
I appreciate that man! Thanks for your time 🙏
There's something to be said about people who educate in a very calm and logical manner ... Glad I found this video!
Many thanks Timothy!
Love the actual walkthrough (at good pace) outlining the steps. Not just telling us numbers
Thanks for going through the steps Truce!
Just upgraded to the A7C from A6300 and this is exactly the kind of video I was looking for! Really well explained especially about using S-log for the sake of using S-log, subbed for more A7C content 👌🏽
Nice upgrade Badi and thank you! I'm glad it helped and hopefully you enjoy the coming A7C content. Let me know if there's anything you'd like to see in particular :)
@@boywithacamera Thanks for this very helpful Content for Ac7 users!
I liked the last part the most, ask your self the question do you really need it what are your needs?. Thanks for that great & genuine advice.
Thank you for this video, I just picked up my A7c two days ago right before I go on a trip. The standard settings is going to help me on my vacation trip as I plan on doing some recording.
Thanks!
I've watched so many videos about this and yours explains the information in the clearest, least-cluttered way. Going to try these settings ASAP!
I searched for "better video quality" and this was the first and last video I watched. Super helpful! I learned so much - thank you!
Sorry for the late reply, but thanks for your time John and sharing such kind words!
You nailed it in the intro! I just purchased my a7c and I have so much to learn. Thank you for the information.
Glad it helped! Congratulations on your A7C and I'm learning the camera with you haha. But let me know if any questions pop up so we can figure it out together. :)
This is the most helpful, informative video on picture profiles and log profiles I’ve ever watched.. seriously helpful. Thank you.
So glad to hear that Timothy! Thanks for your time :)
Gonna give this a whirl and try it tomorrow, cheers!
You are so real and to the point. Your comparison shots are so informative and well edited they don't need too much explanation.
Theres no need for flamboyant antics, and your views are fresh, and beyond the cookie cutter standard.
Please teach us more. Could I request something similar with the A7C for shooting photography? As a new user it is overwhelming navigating the world of 'shooting RAW and editing in Lightroom'.
Thanks a lot Jonathan, that means a lot! I'll see what I can come up with for photography though admittedly I don't take too many photos or use too many features. I definitely remember Lightroom being overwhelming though--feel free to reach out if you have any specific questions in the mean time!
Excellent video. I just shot a couple tests using your settings for Standard and SLog2, and it really made an improvement to my footage. Now my A7C has gained even more value, even with just 8-bit recording abilities. Thanks so much. Cheers. (Oh, and I subscribed.)
Just picked up my a7c yesterday.. excited and this video helps!
Yooooo congrats!! Glad you found this helpful and hope you get great use out of your A7C :)
This is, almost, the video i needed. I would love if you could retake this topic about A7C and video settings, profiles, etc. since i bouth this camera as my first camera ever and all the videos i have made were made by using my smartphone and camera video recording is a different world. Thanks in advance!!!
Congrats on the A7C! I'm not too sure what you're asking for. Are you looking for camera basics such as Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO? Or setup in the menu? The former can be found on RUclips; just search for "how to shoot manual in video" or you can watch some old videos I made: ruclips.net/p/PLSzAIFFv_LQhD9vx_yPtvhOh__7ITsU00 The latter I can try to help with, but it might be worth searching for "Sony menu setup" as I feel like I've seen a couple of those videos floating around. Thanks!
@@boywithacamera thank you so much for answering!! Well, i’m interested in any type of tip/advice/guide for creating different videos (indoor, outdoor, low light, golden hour, blue hour, landscape, product, night, day...) so anything you can teach is something to pay back with a great meal when you come to Spain 😄
@@mariofernandezgomez7857 Gotcha! And can't wait to go to Spain one day haha
I really like your way of looking at things.
I know I won't be using the A7C (or any Sony camera) anytime soon, but I watched the video nonetheless just because I like how you look and think about things. There is always a little nugget of knowledge that is making it worth it.
Thanks Julien, that’s too kind! Glad that you feel it’s worth it. Appreciate it 🙏🙏
This was an awesome video man! I like the way you breakdown this advice. I’m a new A7C user and this is perfect! Looking forward to your future videos.
Thanks so much Roshaan! Hope you’re enjoying the A7C and let me know if any questions pop up. 🙏🙏
Thank you so much for this video, it's the best I've found so far that I found not as overwhelming and easy to understand. It would be really nice to see a video of from beginning to to end (filming settings to post-production work) :).
I am glad you found it useful! Thank you for the suggestion, I'll definitely explore that idea and see if it's something I can pull off. :)
I jusst bought my first Sony camera, and your video popped out on my feed! Thank you so much, it was so helpful and easy to comprehend!
Glad to hear! Thanks for watching :)
Dude awesome video! made me tear up at the end cuz i've been putting way to much pressure on myself whether shooting in the standard profile or other picture profiles like an Slog2
Good questions you raised. Thank you for sharing. 😊
This was an important video for me. 1) I am choosing between the S5 vs A7C for my long distance hiking videos and gear reviews and 2) When I do landscape hiking videos, I am seeking simplicity in post production. A professional on RUclips, Kraig Adams actually used the standard profile on his Sony shooting (A7III and A6600)! He has 500k subscribers lol
S5 looks like a phenomenal camera! Which one are you leaning towards? And simplicity in post production is such an important thing to keep in mind. Did not know he was using standard! His videos are always top-notch--I definitely gotta catch up on his newer stuff.
@@boywithacamera I want the Panasonic 10bit and colors, but I need a 16-17mm wide lens that won't cost 1400$. 20mm on that S5 kit lens isn't wide enough. I'll probably go A7C (a ton of professional YT'ers were JUST using a A7III) since I think it's good enough for me. Pair it with the Tamron 17-28 and I should be good for landscape video of me walking on trail.
Man L-Mount needs some good budget options quick. A7C + 17-28 will be a great setup for you. Hope you create some awesome stuff with it!
Man, what a great video! So helpful. All the information I need, at a good pace w/o over explained. Thanks again 👊🏽
Asian boys from BC just KNOW how to make a great RUclips video 😍😍
Hahaha thanks fam
Great info. A7C arrived today so going to try it out. And now I’m going to have to get some Pad Thai……Thanks!
Congrats on the new camera Ron, sounds exciting! Let me know how that pad Thai goes 😉 and thanks for your time!
Most, if not all of your color issues with SLOG are due to the fact that you’re using S Gamut. This was debunked a while ago, ITU709 matrix is the way to go. Fixes the color issues.
I ignored your warning on the audio jack and pulled the trigger at B&H. I’m really intimidated by post production but I’m going to try this and see what I can do. Excited to get out of my comfort zone and master this camera.
Love the deep thought on is SLog2 even worth it for most.
Congrats Tucker, super excited for you! I still need to check if my unit is an anomaly--thankfully the audio from my shoots this week seems to be all good so it's not a glaring issue. I'm sure yours will be fine. Let me know if you ever need help with post-production, I'd be glad to offer any help I can.
Great mindset with the comfort zone and mastering the camera. It's surprising how many little I knew about some cameras I've owned before. Taking the time to learn its quirks and features will absolutely be beneficial.
@@boywithacamera thanks so much. I might take you up on this. I need to rewatch this video and take notes or just change the settings as I watch it and then get out and shoot. The menu system I’m still struggling with a little bit getting more and more use to it everyday. Thanks for this vid.
@@boywithacamera well I made all the changes and I’m at 4:49 in the video. I need to again take notes and test this out this weekend. Thanks for this video. I’m ready to start really using this camera.
@@boywithacamera 4:48 after selecting custom 2 under zebras are you going into function to adjust iso or do you have a short cut for iso? Sorry for the newb questions.
@@TuckerPearce Don't apologize Tucker! I can see why that looks confusing. Ignore Fn, I think my thumb just hovered over that by mistake. I'm just pressing the default ISO button (right on the dial) and then pressing up and down. Let me know if that makes sense!
bruh... lol I've had the A7C for about a month now and have probably spent 100hours watching Gerald Undone, DunnaDidIt, and countless other channels talk about Picture Profiles and Dynamic Range, color science, etc. I have also been testing and filming shit around my house and outside testing out different settings, then bringing it back into Premiere, trying out tons of input corrective luts (HLG/Slog/Cine --> rec709) and creative luts. Then literally tonight, I decided that Standard is what I am going to use going forward. One hour later, I came across your channel starting with your video about why you sold your A7S iii, and later came upon this video and I wish I had saw this video sooner lol. It was a fun science experiment nonetheless, but I feel so much better knowing that I can focus on what matters, instead of having my head always thinking about exposure and colors, and then the work that will be needed after, etc.
I'm digging your channel, subbed. Keep it going :]
Haha I went down that rabbit hole too so I know the journey all too well! It's definitely nice to get to know the different profiles, but once you can get comfortable with using one and learn how to make it work, it's so nice to just focus on other things like you said. Hope Standard is working out for you! Cheers and Happy New Year :)
@@boywithacamerai'm a little surprised you did not find a suitable alternative with one of the HLG color profiles as a starting point. thank you for the effort and the sharing. stay well. thumbs up.
@@smalltalk.productions9977 Hey smalltalk, thanks for your time! I'm sure the HLG profiles are solid since everyone recommends them. I also tested out the settings that Elias posted here (the Cody Blue? settings) and it looks great! I just noticed that I was always changing the hue of the yellow so skipping that step by shooting in Standard just makes things more efficient for me. Still open to HLG though and might give it another go in the future!
This is gold for a7c users! 👍
I need something like this for the g85! 😭😭
Many thanks! The g85 was my first love for video 🔥 didn’t know what I was doing but the camera made things look good in cinelike-d!
This video got me going right away and not wasting time. Thanks for making this! 🙏
Thanks for your time and glad you didn't feel like it was wasted--I really appreciate it. Hope you create something awesome!
Thank you, really useful advices! Actually standard profile seems to be pretty cool straight out of the camera
Thanks for your time Chiara! Yeah I was really surprised and pleased with the standard profile.
@@boywithacamera Thanks to you Joon, it's a pleasure to follow your updates and thoughts and I particularly like your podcast :)
@@ChiaraBizzarraGiovanelli Oh man, thank you! I gotta hurry and get back on that too. Appreciate you Chiara! :)
this was exactly what I wanted
Can you make a video comparing your A7C with the FX3. No picture profile, Slog and 4:2:0 vs 4:2:2 difference? Or maybe how A7C compliments the FX3 in your use case?
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Dunna Dit It used a different Color Mode. So, im not sure if the saturation still applies. Others are saying to use ITU709 - which I tried, and the colors look really weird in my test shots
Thanks so much 7c is a great camera 🤳📸👍
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Very detailed starting point video. Well done.
Thank you for this. I personally find that I usually have to bring down the luminance of reds in my image to get better skin tones when shooting Slog2 (no matter the saturation setting).
Why I shoot Slog2? I'm coming from RAW photography, so it seems to me that I should be recording in a setting with the most information, but maybe you are right, I will definitely try Standard on a smaller project.
Great video although it is old, it is still very informational. Can you tell me what did you use for your 4K detail and what level did you use for your HD detail ? I still have the Sony A7iii
Much appreciated! I don't remember touching Detail for either mode, so it would be the default settings for each.
Really helpful thank you!!
Also, do you have a video on what effect do you put on your voice? Thanks !
Thank you! Here's an old video: ruclips.net/video/O29YZDcgdnw/видео.html but I think I'm going to try to make an updated version soon
Thank You so much for your help. I own Sony a7c and your videos helps lots. Keep making more videos on a7c and others. Like your thoughts 💯.
Appreciate you and glad it helped you! More on the way :)
I own one for a week. Nice and informative video. I'm glad about your standard profile.
Not a pro or commercial shooter just like to create.
That's awesome, keep creating man! Glad this video was helpful to you and thanks for your time :)
Really informative video! Do you have a similar video with the Fujifilm xt4?
Thank you! Ah darn I do not and I don’t have the X-T4 anymore. When I did have it I just exposed F-Log by eye to protect my highlights and threw on the Eterna lut. But I’d search for how to best expose F-Log since that’ll give you the best results. Hope you find out!
Awesome advice - always looking forward to new videos from you man!
And always looking forward to seeing you here Danny! Thanks as always :)
My fav profile is Cine 4 S Gamut3.Cine
I like that it already has some contrast out of the box
The a7c is a good camera! I also have that camera. I'm excited because it's so light and compact. This video was very interesting! I will come to play again. With love from Japan :)
Yes, the A7C has been very fun and great to work with! Thank you :) Hope to see you soon!
@@boywithacamera It was very interesting! I subscribed to the channel! Please come visit me on my channel :)
Thanks, this is so much help for a Beginner!
Very helpful! Thanks for putting this out
thank you so much for this man. just picked up an a7c. really helpful, clear and concise! liked and sub'd.
What a great breakdown. Thank you!
Super good video man I just picked this camera up today
Congrats James, enjoy the camera! It's surprisingly been very fun to work with
You're awesome, thanks so much, more videos about using the a7c for filmmaking would be greatly appreciated!
This is such a well put together video and SUPER helpful, thank you!!
Glad to hear that Jordan, thank you for your time and positive feedback!
what a great video! So helpful.
Great vid. Have you ever gotten into using Cine modes? I figured out that Cine4 gives me pretty good results out of camera with little need of tweaking. I use it in combo with S-Gamut3.cine, black bumped up to +2 and saturation +5.
Thank you! I haven't really gotten too deep into the Cine modes but I've often heard people swearing by them, so they seem to be solid. Lately I've been getting more into colour grading though so log profiles seem easier to work with at this point! Just what I'm used to now :)
I got a little confused. So C1 for zebras is 70 for any PP or CS. And C2 98 for standard CS and 107 for slog2?
Yep, you got it! I'm also finding that you can set a lower value for C1 + Standard. So C1 = 70 for S-Log2, but you can go for 60 or 65 with Standard. Regardless, I'd say these are just starting points so play around with it and take mental notes of how your images are when you are editing. Hope that clears things up. :)
Super video thank you😊🙏
Thanks for your time!
Very helpful thanks! I'm exactly the target demographic you talked about - I do some video but really don't want to go hardcore into settings and color grading, and would rather spend my time on other things. This gets me to a good starting point I think!
Hey Phil, that's great to hear! Thank you for your time and agreed, I'm placing a lot more value in a quick and efficient starting point nowadays. Cheers!
@@boywithacamera Hey have you mayhaps found a way to map ISO to one of the dials? I found something in a temporary? my dial setting that I have to call up with a button (haven't quite figured that out yet) but would like to just replace shutter speed with iso in video mode, since the shutter will usually be the last thing I change...
@@PhilKnall Hey Phil, hmm I actually haven't thought to try that for some reason. I just glanced at the menu though and it does seem like the only way to customize the dials is to go into the My Dial setting, but it sounds like that doesn't solve the problem for you. Sorry, I wish I could be of more help!
@@boywithacamera no worries! Figured i had looked everywhere.. but it would be nice wouldn't it?
@@PhilKnall For sure haha if I find something though I'll definitely leave you a line here!
How do i change these video settings without it effecting my photography setting s ? please help
Really nicely made video! Well done :-)
This video is excellent. Well done.
helped extremely, bro.... thanks for the video
Excellent rationalization! 👌
Thank you boy with a camera!
The tamron and the sigma lenses don’t have Image stabilization like the kit lens which is something I really wanted for my gym videos. Do you think they’re still much better? What do you think is the best option for me?
Great cliff notes. This very helpful. Thank you!
Thanks for your time Abimael! Glad to hear it's helpful :)
So we are looking very closely at this camera (a7c) for our 1st camera to start shooting content for our YT and podcast. We will primarily be "talking heads" for the podcast and then almost entirely indoor shooting for our YT in our custom apparel shop.. my question is will this be the right camera for us
The autofocus and unlimited recording time should work great for you! If you can rent one for a day you'll have a better idea whether or not the camera will work for you, but if that's not possible then this should be more than good enough to get started.
@@boywithacamera thx went ahead and ordered one today. Might order 1 or 2 more for the type of setup I'm going for. Appreciate your videos and feedback
That’s awesome, hope everything goes well with your projects!
Damn dude, you talk like you know me and I like it.
Haha glad you do man!
Thanks for this information!
Thanks Judy!
Great video dude! Been trying to figure out what profile to shoot on my 6400. I've liked the CINE4 lately, and with some customization it does shoot a nice flat image with good dynamic range. I find that I'm not a fan of S.Gama.Cine. The magenta in the skin is too strong in low light. As far as the answer to the "why shoot in the non standard?" question. For me I've been trying to get better at editing and color grading, and getting my own look in things. Having that flexibility really helps.
One more quick thing: with my CINE4 for a little more flexibility, but also for a little easier to use than SLOG I use the following settings, if anyone wants to try them out. (Credit to Cody Blue)
Black Level: +2
Gamma: Cine4
Black Gamma: Wide +4
Knee: Manual, 80% +2
Color Mode: Pro
Sat: -5
Color Phase: 0
Color Depth: R +3 G +1 B -1 C -4 M -4 Y +3
Detail: -6
Hmm I'm going to have to get on Cine4 and really try it out! And for the shots at 7:09 and 7:21 does the S-Log2 skin look too magenta to you? Those are at like...12800 and 5000 ISO if I remember correctly and I didn't change any hues. I'm wondering if the colours have changed a lot since the 6400 or if I need to recalibrate my display ahha.
And true! It's definitely a skill that's nice to have. I think I'm just getting lazier as time goes and I'm digging a more neutral and 'standard' look. Glad you have something that works for you and I'm going to see if I can get some time in with Cine4. Thanks Elias!
@@boywithacamera I'm not sure if it's changed much. That being said, the sensor is a lot larger on the A7C anyways, so it might just be better. As far as those 2 time stamps: the skin tones look nice and natural, but you do have warmer skin tones than me naturally, and a lot of the magneta I've noticed is when I film my wife. She is blonde and has very pale skin naturally. So it might just be a natural skin tone thing. Not sure.
The reason i chose cine4 is that it's a little more contrasty and makes maintaining skin tones easier for me as a newish editor. I'd be curios to hear your thoughts on it!
@@elias_nichols Okay thank goodness--I thought my eyes or display was entirely off!
Ahh that makes a lot of sense. The recommended exposure for different skin tones varies too so might be worth looking deeper into that too.
Can't wait to test Cine4! Just need to find something new to shoot amidst this pandemic haha. Shooting trees can only go so far!
Do you have a video on Best but easy o photo ?
Maybe try HLG3. Minimal post editing needed and crazy dynamic range
Does it offer more dynamic range than the examples shown in the video? I briefly mention HLG2 at 7:06--is HLG3 the same in terms of colour and range? I really wasn't a fan of having to shift yellows and oranges if I'm already happy with the colours out of Standard.
I just ordered the camera and wondering if I just shot it on auto can The picture come out good as well without the setting. I am a noob at this. Can this camera beat the iPhone 12max pro? For easiest.
Congrats on the new camera! The default standard shots in the video are probably close to what you would get on auto. I'd take some time to learn how to shoot manual though, I made some videos a while ago going over basic exposure: ruclips.net/p/PLSzAIFFv_LQhD9vx_yPtvhOh__7ITsU00 Hope that helps!
Thank you sir. Very good video. I shoot a full wedding in standard mode which this adjustments and the result is a perfect footage. Yes, I lose a little bit of dynamic range but more than 90% of the mortals won’t notice that if you know how to shoot. Thank you again. Hey, one cuestión, this work for the a7iv? I’m planning to buy that cámara.
That's awesome! Hmm A7IV I think SLog3 will be better since you'll get the dynamic range and it's a 10-bit codec. But for quick turnarounds I'm sure the Standard profile will look great.
Do you care to share your audio processing pls. Loved the voice and want to know what equipment u have and how it's recorded and processed. Thanks a lot and really appreciate ur hep
Hey there! Already made a video on this: ruclips.net/video/O29YZDcgdnw/видео.html Hope that helps you!
I have this camera and know NOTHING. I am just trying to sit in front and talk. Not sure if these setting are for that or for making other types of content. Can you help me?
Thank you for easy explaining
Great production quality!
Thanks Merrick!
This was super helpful, thank you!
Loving the content bro!
Many thanks man!
I need to get the A7C since it's the combination of my two cameras (A7SII and A6500). I actually avoid S-Log since I'm not doing crazy color grades and rather use Cine-4 Picture Profile. I have two different customized settings that I'll use depending on my Frame Rate. I might have to give S-Log a try after hearing your tips for proper exposure!
Yeah Cine4 seems to be a really popular option! I just did a shoot with the 7c and my second shooter had the original 7s, but it seems like the S-Log2 out of the 7c is a lot cleaner? Could be the proper exposure too, but worth taking a look into if you're interested in grabbing the C. Let me know how the SII S-Log2 looks when you expose this way, I'm really curious!
@@boywithacamera It's possible that the 7C got an updated S-Log or the Sensor/internal components are better suited for it. Either way I'll have to give it a try and hopefully can get my hands on an A7C soon!
@@TTangFilms Awesome man, looking forward to hearing from you and hope you get that A7C soon!
Awesome man! Does it works for a7c ii ?
Appreciate you! It should be really similar--give it a go and see if the standard settings work for you. I'm assuming it has 10-bit S-Log3 which would require a similar way to expose but you wouldn't need to tweak the saturation settings of S-Log3. I also created a LUT for S-Log3 that is best used for properly exposed/white balanced footage: joonrho.com/shop/p/base-lut-sony-s-log3
Why I want to use color profiles (slog2) is because my gym have a lot of LED lights that are green/purple. These makes the skin tone look terrible imo and I want to push them towards looking more natural, is this a good use of color profiles, or should I just shoot standard mode? For example I have dialed magenta color depth back to -5 or -6
The solution is more oriented to colour grading, but if the light source is green/purple, it's going to be tough to get the skin tones looking right without affecting the entire image. If you're working with 8-bit footage, you probably won't be able to push the colours that extreme so I'd suggest working around with the White balance settings. I believe you can push the white balance to Magenta or Green to counteract some of that light in the gym. If it's a mix of both though, you most likely will need to choose one.
I haven't played around with the Color Depth setting, but I think that's a good idea too. Combining that with the White Balance settings might get you closer to where you want to be.
Thousands of videos and hours wasted until I found this video. THANKS THANKS THANKS A THOUSAND TIMES. I changed from Canon to Sony and all this of PP and Slogs had me already Tired. I'm working on a podcast and your audio sounds grate. A tutorial on how to achieve it would be useful
Thank you for the amazing comment! I've got a few audio videos up on the channel I think--maybe give it a quick search and if you can't find something feel free to hit me up :)
hey what about slog 3? thoughts?
Thank you! I’m gonna have to watch this several times to really get what you’re saying lol as I’m getting acquainted with my a7c. What about the cine profiles? Would love to hear what you would have to say about them
Thank you for your time! Let me know if any questions come up as you watch :) There are a few other comments here talking about the cine profiles so you can get a few more perspectives. I personally think they're great for dynamic range and a lot of people seem to love them, but I'm not a fan of how the yellows and oranges are rendered. It takes more time when I'm editing to fix those colours so I just stick with the profiles shown in this video. Hope that helps!
Subbed :) Great quality video's overall!
Thank you Kareem!
10x! great tips. what about hlg3 profile? many users shoot hlg3 because it has good dynamic range and it also easy to use and expose rather then slog2, and the sooc is also great.
Thanks Avi! On the back of the screen it looks like HLG2 and HLG3 are really similar to one another so I'm not too sure on the specifics. I used to only shoot HLG3 on the A7III and remember liking it because of the reasons you mentioned. But after beginning to expose with Zebras I find S-Log2 to be easy to work with and the A7C lowlight is so good that even if you're overexposing in lowlight it looks really good. Main thing for me is the weird yellows and oranges in HLG, which is better in S-Log2 and completely gone when shooting in Standard. Hope that helps!
@@boywithacamera i have the sony a7c too and i agree, but the grading to me on s log is harder. do you use a lut for it?
@@avishmayovitsh5038 No luts, I usually just do everything in the Basic Correction tab: +contrast, whites/highlights down to 80-85 IRE, shadows/blacks down to 5ish IRE. Then fine tuning in Color Wheels and maybe shifting the yellows towards orange a bit. If I'm feeling ambitious then I'll play around with curves and then do HSL Secondary to dial in the skin. I might just be lazier with my image though haha, but this seems to work quickly for me!
Hello! Thank you for you advices. Just bought it recently for filming family. I am amazed by S-Log2 and find very beautiful "as is", I don't add contrast on post. Was dissapointed to see ugly blocks happens on dark blue, not even underexposed. For me, as CGI-compositing-artist it's a pain to see this, still happy with this camera because of brilliant autofocus and nice colors overall.
Thanks for your time :) It's definitely a great camera for filming family. CGI-compositing sounds very cool--going for a 10-bit codec with your next camera should get rid of those blocks!
Amazing video. Really Helpful :)
Glad to hear that, thanks for your time!
Hi, great video. On the second shooting tab (key option), I don't have zebra level (4:43). What can I do ? I have reset to fabric settings too. What can I do now?
Very clear explanation thanks!
Thanks for your time Max!
Good video essay, my man. Could you upscale your videos to 2k/4k so that you use VP09 codec?(check in stats for nerds)
The compression is better with this codec and we can appreciate the footage with less compression artifacts.
Oh man did not know about this at all! I'll have to upscale moving forward. Thank you for the tip and I'll keep that in mind.
I see you mention standard profile and Slog2 but what about easier picture profiles to work with for the rest of us who want to grade footage, apply LUTs, etc.? Just picked up an A7C, I've been using Cine4 for my A6400 for 2 years--I'm curious what you would recommend between Cine4 and HLG2 / 3? Thanks!
great video!
Thanks for the great info.
super useful, thanks man!
Glad to hear that, thanks for your time Cai!