2023 Subaru WRX VS 2023 Subaru BRZ: I'm Shocked At Which One I Like More
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Today I compare a 2023 Subaru WRX Limited to a 2023 Subaru BRZ Limited!
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No conclusion? Which one do you like more?
You prefer the digital gauges on a sports car, you rev the engine while it is still cold on a brand new car, you start driving without having your seat adjusted properly, and you complain about someone turning as if a dozen cars on the road is “traffic”. I won’t give my conclusion of your review, just like you didn’t give a conclusion as to which car you were shocked you liked more.
I paid MSRP for my 2022 BRZ (at the height of covid no less) and i've loved it every day since. its not perfect, i could nit pic but overall its a tremendous car at a great price. I also live in NE and have been doing just fine thanks to a set of Blizzaks. Driving through the snow in my Bright red BRZ has been a lot of fun.
I cross shopped both of these along with Miata. Really wanted to have awd sporty car to round out my driving experience but I’m a sucker for lightweight rwd sports car. The Miata was a little more fun but BRZ has actual storage. No issues getting large grocery order.
The BRZ provides all the feels I look for and enough power to b enjoyable. Would buy another if anything happens to current car
I ended up going Miata, but the lack of space is becoming more and more problematic. Would you say the BRZ or WRX is more bumpy than the Miata? I could not find any dealerships nearby to allow to test drive BRZ or WRX. That's why I ended up with Miata since I could test drive really any Mazda I wanted at the local dealership.
@@tcc5750 the BRZ has surprisingly soft suspension. It’s ride is smoother than my wife’s SUV and great on long road trips. The 86 is noticeably more jarring than either BRZ or MX5.
@@tcc5750 I own a Gen 2 BRZ and the suspension is pretty soft for the car it is. I didn't even test drive a Miata as I am 6'2" and didn't want to somehow fall in love with it and then later hate it cause I would be cramped and couldn't take more than 1 person with me (I many times take 2 of my kids with me and they fit just fine on the passenger side).
I personally couldn't even fit in the Miata - but in the BRZ (Gen 2) it was more than enough room.
The Miata is more refined for sure, but the BRZ / GR86 is way more of a performance car in terms of the interior and feel.
I like the seats the steering wheel and the analog gauges better in the WRX but I like the dashboard better in the BRZ.
Wild! The BRZ cruise control switchgear is exactly right out of my ‘02 bugeyes WRX wagon haha.
TF! Which one you like more?????
Have been looking at these!!
Poverty spec WRX for the win…
Brz said 46 degrees outside, wrx said 55 degrees outside. 🧐
It's such a small world! I saw that pink Toyota 86 at the Sprouts in Murray parking lot one day lol. I live in SLC and actually bought my Sub XT there back in the early 00's
The WRX Premium with the Sunroof/Harman Kardon package is still the best value. The Limited’s ultra-suede interior/power driver seat are nice, along with a few other novelties, but not worth the up-charges IMO
Yes, this. Mines a premium with the HK and moon roof upgrade. Saved me a lot of money getting that vs a limited which allowed to choose a lot of other options from the factory without the car being over $40k. I do wish I had the seats that say "WRX" on the head rest though. Doesn't seem like something you can order to replace either
I have the base model, love everything so far, no complaints, only thing I wish it had was the premium sound system
@@leokavanaugh1939 I would get the base if it had the HK sound system. I don't care about moonroofs
I think so too...
The suede/alcantera seats with lumbar support in the limited is worth it alone. (Although not the Recaro’s which are $10,000 for both driver&passenger), I’m sure it’s a hefty price tag. You also get the moving curve adaptive LED projectors that I can never go back to the standard static LED’s. out the door price 38,000 in GA
I’m one of those people on Google for comparisons lol so thank you for the video
Me too! Apparently there are a lot of us! They're both a lot of fun to drive, but I can't decide between the practicality of back seats and increased power and AWD of the wrx or the increased fun, handling, style, and lower price of the BRZ.
15:19 That motor home has been parked for a long time. It's in most of Ben's videos 😆
LOL
Plot twist. It's actually his home, that's why he always makes videos there.
Poor job of reusing old material as a new release. The WRX video was clearly done independent of the BRZ. Near the end, you explain why you are talking about the BRZ as if you had dementia and the answer was not because you were producing a comparison video.
The fact that you had no final comparison comments was the worst part of the quick throw it together job.
WTF?
Abrupt ending with no conclusion?
Here is a tip.
Slow you speech down, can't understand half of what you said.
I know some young men speak.......um......quite fast but
slow down and man it up a bit.
Also, manual seats are piss easy to adjust, for most of us,
just do it before you start drive off, you know, slow down a bit.
Also, the BRZ will have the shorter gearing, check em out on the highway.
That is why , for modest power output it accelerates briskly and revs to 7000
unlike the WRX, higher gearing ,more torque.
Just saying.😉
I went with the BRZ
Just some constructive criticism. Not sure if the video just ended abruptly or if my RUclips is wonky but an outro would be nice lol. An outro that sums up the review
The comparison between the BRZ and WRX makes perfect sense to me. I'm actually trying to decide between the two myself. The reason is, there just aren't a lot of fun, high quality cars on the market right now in this price range, and Subaru just happens to have two. For some reason the only vehicles every manufacturer seems interested in selling are SUVs, crossovers, and cars that look like an SUV or crossover. And Subaru has a lot of fans that specifically want a subaru, and the only decision is which model to get.
Does the automatic with the performance transmission have different drive modes unlike the manual wrx u showed?
Insane cars Ben !!
Man's said deep-throaty sound. I lost it lmao
Wait i dont have that carbon fiber piece on the truck? Subaru sell those? Mine is just piano black i have the sport tech manual
"deep throaty sound" lol. that car is also equipped with the STI performance mufflers.
As of yesterday, I own a 2022 BRZ Limited, and a 2023 WRX GT. The GT is like....light years faster. If you pop the WRX into SI+ it's scary acceleration from 0. More than likely do to the AWD from the jump, but then the turbos spool and it's night and day. I love my BRZ, it's a literal joy to drive. However, the WRX is wayyyyyyy more car.
I have a GT as well a BRZ pulled up next to me and he got gapped . Funny his license plate said GAPTME
Did I hear a lot of rattles in WRX? I kind of want to get a WRX but I'm also afraid of the rattling sound attack. Any suggestions?
I think the GT version or whatever has adaptive suspension. It is auto tho if you care
the dash on mine rattles alot
Ben, how would you compare the visibility of the WRX vs. the BRZ (is the WRX significantly better?)
One thing I noticed when I test drove a WRX is I felt the visibility was bad, compared to other sedans. Not terrible, but worse than I expected. This was a 2019 wrx though
@@wingspantt 2019, eh? So a totally different car (VA chassis). Your comment is pointless.
"deep throaty sounds" lol
Cool comparison.
I am surprised you said daily content. WOW!
Bought a 22 limited, and sold it a couple months later. Drives well, but it’s just not worth anywhere near the near 40k price tag. Missing so many features that other cars in that price range have, and isn’t fast enough to make up for it
You got ripped off if you paid msrp. I got both my 22 WRXS for two grand under msrp
@@gustavogo2915 a limited is still near 40k even if you get it 2k under MSRP after taxes and fees
@@nickjacobsss just got my limited for 32k. can't complain LOL
@@garboi8976 New? Where at? (city/state/dealer)
What did you get to replace it?
I don't think it's strange. I can't decide if I want a WRX (practical fun)/ BRZ (more fun more of the time) or even an Impreza RS (functional and practical daily) lol. (Coming from a 2018 STI btw)
Very silly that you never concluded which one you like better. It is actually in the title of your video. The video was useless if we wanted your opinion...
i'm in slc too! cheers!
for me its the best looking WRX to date minus that rear bumper, I love the cladding, IMO it suits the car well.
looks mile better than the suzuki baleno looking previous model WRX
with the WRX, you go to 4th so fast, hardly seems the RPM's support it.
Apples and Oranges, 2WD vs AWD.
If I lived where I could use a 2WD all year I would buy the BRZ. Reason, I dislike turbo charged engines.
If you want to wear out a engine fast, turbo charge it.
Anyway, I bought a 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Sport and 2023 Subaru Forester Wilderness last year. Both of course are AWD and have 2.5L naturally aspirated engines. Win Win!
You speak so fast I needed to watch the video on 0.75x speed
Thanks for the suggestion. I set it to 75% early when I saw your comment. Sounded natural.
The BRZ has much better styling; and the engine will likely last much longer. True the WRX has more power; but the BRZ is more fun to drive.
I would love to have the BRZ but at 6’3” and the wrong side of 200lbs I think I would be cramped. I fit in the WRX perfectly
Oh come on. The BRZ is more than spacious enough. I’m 6’2 and daily drove a Miata for 6 years. The BRZ is cavernous.
There's a 6'5" overweight guy in a review who fit just fine in the BRZ/GR86
I'm on the north side of 6'2", 230ish and own a 23 BRZ. Fit just fine no problems. The car has more than enough room for someone 6'3" likely even 6'4".
6’4”, 230, plenty of room
@@TheDiskinsDoEverything I sat in a GR86 at a local autoshow and was surprised how much room inside. I also sat in a Supra and felt it was more cramped
Which car of the two has the stiffer suspension?
Is WRX more comfort than BRZ? I'm looking of buying a BRZ but i have driven only the previous one. I would like to know some information about its suspension. The place i live has not good roads and i would like my car not to be very hard.
recently sold my GR86 for a wrx limited manual and i think the 86 was stiffer but it's fairly similar between the two. neither are particularly soft lol
How do you start a car that has a stick and push button?
Presumably same as a key. Hold clutch and brake, press button.
What does blippable mean?
I've never heard the term blippable before now.
39,000 is pretty high. 2022 is 33,000!!
Crazy right? You can buy L certified Lexus RC/RX/IS for 30-35K with 30K ish miles. Much more stylish, luxurious, and reliable than Subarus I feel like...
That's the only thing that makes sense in a used WRX compared to a new BRZ.
The base (premium 🙄) WRX starts lower (under 30k USD - maybe he meant CAD) than the limited BRZ. Only when you option it does it get that high. Shit the base ecoboost is the price of a BRZ. But once you go Premium the price rockets up 5k (and the premium is Much better than the base - least they finally added a touch display -_-). If you want it convertible (add over 6k since it doesn't come in base models), auto tranny (add 1.6k), the high performance package which also adds magnaride and dual exhaust (add 6.1k), the digital cluster (add 2.8k), speaker upgrade (add 1k), you end up over 50k before a spoiler and blackout options, wheels or paints. Nevermind if you want the V8...you might as well just try for a GT-350, or at least a Mach1 if you're going fully loaded.
Not for a 2022 limited. Those are 38,000
The WRX also had an optional $1200 exhaust upgrade option
WRX all day long. AWD, 271hp, 6 speed manual.
Actual space vs none.
Nuff said.
I would like to test drive both
Have 22 wrx. I’m sure the BRZ is more fun to drive. Just not practical if it’s your only car, imo.
You need to learn how to have fun in your WRX…
Not quite at 1k miles yet but close. But I’m having fun, trust me. Just different feel in a small car like the brz.
@@Matt-ki6tw I have a 22 WRX and I agree
@@Matt-ki6tw Same car, also agree. It can be fun when you put your foot down and turn hard but driving in normal road conditions it feels like a normal car.
Hello! Quick question, I can not seem to get my rev match down shifts down from 3rd to 2nd gear in my wrx. I was wondering if you had any suggestions that would help?
You just have to blip harder (a lot harder imo) from 3->2. 6 to5, 5to4, 4to3 are all about the same light blip, but 3to2 and 2to1 require a way larger blip (Would guess it has to do with gearing) for it to be smooth. Also, a louder exhaust may help you learn it quicker/easier as you'll have an auditory cue to accompany your foot cue.
Yes, bigger blip and or let the clutch out faster once you hit the throttle before the rpm’s drop. 3rd to 2nd is hardest for me to get smooth too.
Can't you talk any FASTER???!!!!
Fuel economy stats for turbo car can not directly compared to none turbo car.
The stats you see are turbo cars without turbo kicking in. I get 0-10% lower than factory claimed on turbo cars.
I get 15-30% better fuel economy in na cars.
Engine doesn't make a whole lot of difference in fuel economy especially mass produce models. Aero makes the most difference in high speed and weight makes the most difference in low speed.
I love deep throaty sounds he says. Don't we all 😆 13:10
I'll take both
Brz is a lot better looking and fun to drive car than the WRX
Turbos are boring to drive n/a is always more fun
I love my 2023 wrx
Well which one do you like more after driving both?
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. The big title of the video, then it just kind of ends like the battery in his camera died. The WRX has gotten insanely expensive. And shame on Subaru for putting HVAC controls on the touch screen. Someone on the WRX design team has lost touch with what Subaru customers value. Just because we have the technology to put HVAC controls on a touch screen, doesn't make it a good idea. I have a '17 BRZ Limited with Performance Pack, and a Forester XT. Love the simple controls. One thing he failed to mention is driver height. A family member who is tall with long legs opted for the WRX over my gen BRZ because he just didn't fit well.
@@scottanthony3426 I have a 2017 BRZ performance pack as well! The WRX is really for someone who’s only looking for one car and needs some practicality/AWD but also something sporty…otherwise if you can go with a 2 car garage there are better alternatives
@@clintonrodriguez9771 That's exactly where I was. I have a Forester too, so this didn't have to be very practical. That said, I test drove a Miata too, and just couldn't see how that would work with NO room in the cockpit for anything. Jackets, wife's purse, etc, all has to pretty much go in the footwells. The back seats on the BRZ are mostly uninhabitable (squeezed a single passenger in there once), but they are great for jackets, and anything you want to be able to grab without getting out of the car. Also in choosing the BRZ over the WRX, I wanted, for once, to choose a light RWD car built on a dedicated platform, vs something designed to be 10 different flavors depending on mods. I'd already had a Civic Si, and the WRX is an Impreza on steroids. Nothing wrong with those cars, but I'd never had a great time/circumstance to just go for the dedicated design until I pulled the trigger on this. Got a great deal - it was still on the lot in January of '18. Sadly, it is difficult to even find the new gen BRZ/GT86 on a dealer lot.
I’ll make it simple. If you don’t need rear seats get the BRZ. Their is literally no comparison only one is a legitimate sports car.
You never mentioned which one you liked more though :/
I’ve been cross-shopping these two with MT versions. The WRX needs the STI rear spoiler, otherwise it’s too plain looking.
@Kan Gill I can't stand those gaudy shopping cart wings. I also don't find the WRX plain with its hood scoop and flared fenders. But to each his own.
It doesn’t necessarily need an “STI Spoiler” but a spoiler would be nice for this car. Hopefully the aftermarket gets away from making STI reps for this Gen and actually make a new design
@@arealglitterb0y And even though I hate them, the sti wings sells so of course aftermarket will take advantage of that. There are several other options out there though.
@arealglitterb0y well it has a lip Spoiler... which blends in with the car. If you want a big Spoiler then go get an aftermarket universal one.
Ben: WRX or GR Corolla?
The BRZ dash display looks like a cheap video game, especially when in a mode where the tachometer is on. I like the overall styling of the car, but *everything* about the WRX seems to be several steps above the BRZ. $6K is a chunk of change, but the car is more premium, more practical, AWD, etc. I doubt if anyone would experience any buyer's remorse for stepping up to it.
Why not both?
Dude said “Deep throaty” sound 😂 😂 😂 😂 lay off the hub bruh
The BRZ won't do you much good in 6 inches of snow.
BRZ is a lot better looking car, lighter and sporty. I pass on the WRX not my type at all.
wrx would be perfect with a higher 7k redline & hatch/lift vs. the trunk.
Or if we got the wagon that Japan and Australia get, but with a manual and of course the higher redline
@@mistamaog high compression pistons import? :)
@@mistamaog I'd take a hatch almost every time, but the new body style hatch looks horrible to me lol
yea but which is faster in a straight line?
Stock for stock, WRX with an adequate launch should be quicker than the BRZ. Though, im sure the BRZ is quicker off a roll
@@BDA0531 Wrong. 2022+ BRZ/GR86 is actually quicker than the 2022+ WRX both from a dead stop and from a roll.
@@moldyrefrigerator Pls link me the vid that shows a BRZ beating a VB WRX from a launch stock for stock. Because if youre going by 0-60 numbers the VB WRX requires a 3rd shift to hit 60 so its abit inaccurate
@@BDA0531 Merry Christmas ruclips.net/video/ra8ILOpNdqU/видео.html
@@moldyrefrigerator that WRX 100% owner bogged his launch. Trust me I had an STI and when launched properly (which is very hard to do) its gone. Im not taking away anything from the BRZ but I know what the WRX is capable of
😂 it's called tuning. That's why the engine is different. A engine plus a turbo and tuning. These two things can really change a car. The wrx is also de-tuned from Subaru. Which is why you can make about 50 hp with a tune and almost another 50 with bolt ons. Subaru themselves have stated they made this car for tuning. I don't know how "reviewers" like you miss this. 😂
And your conclusion that you were shocked about????
I want both
WRX more practical and way more fun to drive! Especially in snow!
More fun to drive? 😂. You can’t be serious. The BRZ is a legitimate sports car with 600lbs less weight, much lower COG, shorter wheelbase, much better steering feel, much better transmition, much better seating position, and a more responsive high revving motor.
@@jjchockey brz is a slower miata lol
@@wescooper2961 except it’s a good bit quicker than a Miata…
@@jjchockey debatable lol
@@wescooper2961 how is it debatable? Metrics like power to weight ratio and acceleration are facts…. 😂
It's weird I guess because both are speedy cars. I guess it depends on practicality?
This is the weirdest comparison I've seen all day.
LOL
I was actually torn between these 2 cars myself. The WRX is the more practical choice for sure. I just wasnt sold on the looks so I ordered a BRZ a year ago. I have since taken a WRX for a test drive to see what I might be missing out on. I was VERY unimpressed with the WRX. Even though on paper it makes more power, it is also much heavier, revs lower, and the AWD creates more drivetrain power loss. The result is the BRZ is 1000 times more fun to drive. I am sooo glad I didnt buy the WRX. To solve the practicality problem, I also just ordered the Impreza RS. Why compromise with 1 car, when 2 is better. !!
I recently went for an Ikea run with my BRZ and had no problem fitting flattened furniture in the back. And it's not the first time I've easily transported furniture.
Practicality is overlooked or underestimated for small cars in general IMO. Most people don't need the amount of space they buy.
@@WhatisaLee The BRZ can definitely carry some stuff. Just not more than 2 people. I find the backseats completely useless, even for children. With good winter tires it can drive in light snow too, but its too low to deal with more than a few inches. Those reasons gave me an excuse to buy another subaru, one with AWD. Lol
You answered it yourself. If you have to purchase 2 cars then that's all I needed to know
@@SacredCASHcow I didnt "have" to. But I wanted a real performance car which to me only exists in RWD. I also wanted a great useable daily drive that my kids could drive and has room to haul stuff, which is what makes hatchbacks great. Since subaru sucks and doesnt give a wrx hatch and just this overly cladded goofy looking sedan, that ruled that out as well. So my logic was, why settle for 1 half assed vehicle when I can have 2 and get exactly what I want?
@boost331 I don't agree with the hivemind about the looks. I just ordered a wrx 2023, and I don't even have kids. I just like having backseats. I also feel like power is not that important to me. I don't want a speeding ticket. I do want good handling, awd, etc.
Yeah you really didn't drive anywhere the only thing that was kind of annoying about this is you literally went in 1 circle didn't have time to elaborate on both cars. And the Fa24 revs better in the WRX because it is using a different Tune then in the BRZ which has rev delay
They really dropped the ball with this gen WRX.
They really didn't though
@@mistamaog Sure they did. It's objectively uglier from every angle. Not to mention CVT only for the highest trim? What's that garbage? Belongs nowhere near a sports car. They're turning it into a gutless family car.
@@BRZguy CVT only for the GT model, you're right, terrible idea, plus it costs too much. Even the limited trim is a bit much.
Looks are subjective, to me it looks better in person, except for the rear bumper. The fenders I already got used to, and now even Porsche is adding them to their off road 911.
I wouldn't say they dropped the ball though because there's really no other AWD 4 door sedan for under $40k with a manual.
@@mistamaog I've seen em in person too and I just can't get over all the cheap plastic trim they have everywhere. Reminds me of an early 00's econobox.
And the proportions of the last gen were just better. On this one, the grille is too big, the headlights are too far apart, rear bumper plastic takes up too much vertical space. They dropped the ball relative to the previous gen.
Used to have a VA before getting a Supra - you hit the nail on the head, as did the other guy. Every generation it inches closer towards full on Corolla family car.
So basically if your a loser you like the brz, and other way around for the wrx
BRZ isn't a very good daily, fun mountain road car
That WRX is a 2022.
There is no difference
@@steve8803 The only reported difference to date is the price increase of $1,025.00. The fact that the reviewer can’t properly identify the car he is reviewing is the major concern, I’m pointing out.
@@odaymarks major concern? That's extreme.
@@steve8803 Not extreme at all. A reviewer should know what year car they are working with to do a proper review.
@@odaymarks it's extreme. Clearly you have an otherwise perfect life to qualify this as a major concern.
You do know you shouldn't stop in the crosswalk at a turn right?