The biggest tractor my Dad ever owned was a 4020. When he retired in 2016 at the age of 89 years, he had three 4020's. He always said it was the best tractor Deere ever built. He is gone now and the farm is history. But the memories live forever. Thank you for the video.
Alot 4020's that have been preserved are retired and living on easy street. Okay it's not healthy to just sitting around but at least they are getting worked hard.
I just bought a 1965 4020. I found it while traveling around and assembling farm machinery. I own American implement assemblers. When we had a dairy farm in Minnesota my father-in-law had 2 4020s I've noticed nowadays the machinery has really changed since the 1980s. But I really like my job I hope I can do it for a long time
My dad helped design these tractors. He was in Hydraulics and he worked on designing a new transmission for Deere. I can remember him drawing up the decal for the hydralics/three point cluster at home. The PTO cover is missing. Helped farm summers with 3010s 3020s
When my uncle bought his 4020, I loved it. And it had the power shift. One day it was parked on our hill with the baler attached. On our Olivers, we would just coast down the hill and drop the clutch to start them. I tried this on the JD, only to realize I had no brakes, or steering, and it won't start that way. Only did that once.
Dad ordered a brand new 1966 4020 powershift with the roll guard factor installed on it. The 1964 4020 did not have a roll guard from the factory. I was a teenager at the time and put many an hours on both tractors. When I started farming in 1971 I bought a 1967 4020 powershift and still have and use the tractor today.
Nines years old on the farm driving the 4020. It was like playing in the sandbox.. which reminds me of how many tractors I’ve driven in my life.. we were dairy farmers.. you fellas know what I’m talking about.. it was never work when you were in the seat of one of those things.
Our 3020 replaced a gas 720, Dad was disappointed as it would not do as much work as the old two cylinder. The 4020 came along and what a fantastic tractor it was.
My Father had 4020 with a cab, heat and AC. It had an OEM JD loader When he went CRP he sold almost all the implements but kept the tractor He used it with the loader for clearing snow and bought a JD 3 point mounted snowblower for the blizzards Kept it in the shed and it always started and the cab was warm no matter how far below zero it was He used it with Bush Hog for mowing and big tiller for the garden He had it restored in the 00's and was still using it when he died at 89 a few years ago.
My Grandpa bought a brand new 4020 and it was the biggest tractor he ever owned. They used it for everything on the farm. My Grandpa has been gone since 1995 but he the 4020 is around and my Uncle uses it all the time.
My Grandpa bought a new 4020 around 1970 and although he is gone, the tractor is still around and is used all the time including moving trees during the derecho in Iowa.
My Dad purchased a 1968 used model 4020 in 1971 for about $7000. It was three years old and we had great luck with it. We put a year round cab on it after the first year and hauled manure with it year round, beside's normal spring and fall field work. Great memories, very little trouble with it. He checked the radiator one day and that front mounted fuel tank needed some water, so he added water!!! He realised what he'd done and called the dealership immediatly. They said no problem. get under the tank and turn on the peecock valve at the bottom, let the water out, shut it off when diesel starts coming out. Water is heavier than diesel, and it all went to the bottom! Easiest fix! We traded that 4020 off for a 4240 that we still own. That 4020 built Deere company into what it became. We currently own 3 Deere tractors, all purchased in the 80's, and still running quite well.
Fun fact: When John Deere went to show off the Roll Over Guard, the tractor it was mounted on had tipped over during the demonstration by accident. Operator and tractor were fine. Ended up being a happy unfortunate accident, but it showed off the ruggedness of it.
As a child in the 80s -90s, I grew up with my grandpa on his 4010 & 4020. Truly effortless steering on the 20. I'll never forget the look on his face when he came creeping around the corner of the field in his old cj5 to find me bellied out. To this day I don't have much of an ass left for whooping 😆
I never saw a model 4020 with pressed wheels on the back, unless they were modified for tractor pulling. Very knowledgeable individual. Thanks for sharing.
My dad and uncle both worked at a john deere dealership back in the early 1960s in Lawrenceburg TN my uncle also farmed in the late 60s and early 70s and owned john deere tractors and equipment I also had many die cast toy model john deere tractors and equipment as a kid that green and yellow really caught my eye at a young age I have always loved john deere.
I still remember in the early 60's my father taking me to the John Deere dealer for John Deere day. They did not have any of the new 4 and 6 cylinder 10 series tractors delivered to them yet but Dad said to be sure to call when they got a 3010 in. They did one better and without any contact they drove in and unloaded a new 3010 and told Dad to go ahead and run it for a day. 24 hours later dad called the dealer and told them to leave it here and he was on the way to the bank. After that the next spring we acquired a 4010. 4 years later that was traded for a 4020 and 2 years after that we bought a 4320. This whole time we kept the 3010 and it had 9,000 hrs before we had to overhaul the moter. In reality it was the 10 series that changed everything.
I still have the3010 diesel my dad bought new in 1963. The dealer put 3020 pistons in it in 1966. We pulled 4 16 plow with it until he bought a 4010. I still have the 3010, and my sister-in-law has the 2520 my dad bought new
Very nice review of the features and the variations through the years. Keith is one of the nicest and most honest salesmen you could ever want to meet. Obviously he’s also extremely knowledgeable. Thanks for putting this together.
American and BTI are 2 of the biggest JD dealers. My father-in-law had a couple of 4020's. Put in M&W pistons and upped the HP to around 150. I plowed many acres with that straight pipe JD! No cab, no umbrella, just the sun and the wind. Back then there was a Ensign dealer and a Cimarron dealer. Harvested wheat with a 55, 95, and a 105 combine. Hauled the wheat with a couple of Ford single axle trucks. Yep those were the good ole days.
Probably one of the most knowledgeable guys you will ever get an interview with for a 4020. Great video! Looking forward to seeing more. Hey from Ontario Canada. Always wanted to come explore Kansas. Josh
The best way to learn about the 4020 is to operate, maintain and service them. You learn their strengths and weaknesses and some tricks to overcome some of the weaknesses. It seems that a good farm back in the time of the 4020 had much more wealth and buying power than one does today. The farm community was strong and principled. I began my affections from the 4020 in 1988 when I got my first job on a small dairy. There were two diesels. A synchro, and a power shift. I enjoy using the one I own today and I guess that is a statement on its own.
When my dad moved to joiner Arkansas to start farming there. He bought 2 4010 and 3 4020. The other farmers were kinda jealous most of them still had the old 2 cyclers. He farmed 59 years and still had them. It's the tractors my brother and myself learned to drive around when we were 12. Great tractors we had a couple of cotton pickers. We would take the front end off the 4020s and put under the pickers so you have 2 wheels in the back set up on 38 inch rows.
This was soooooo good. I listened intently and learned a ton. Do another one with this guy agian! Thanks for posting it so we could enjoy it. Professor Dewey L.🌎😎👏🚜
I didn't see very much difference between the 4020 & my uncle's 4010 he had , I basically learned how to drive tractor on a 4010 . Sure brought back memories
The differences are not in the looks department for sure. I own a 64 4010 and a 70 4020. The differences are subtle, but the upgrades to the 4020 are good improvements. I wish I had a powershift trans, but when I bought my 4020 I couldn't pass it up and I can't justify purchasing another just to get a powershift.
My grandfather owns an LP 4020 with the bucket front, it's never failed us yet and it's a real hard worker, nice during the summer for picking up the bales
I own a 1969 4020 we still use it for utility work. When they were built they were the best tractor on the market. The 4020 was the most comfortable tractor of that time.
A very popular tractor. My grandfather and great uncle bought one brand new. And my father's brother in law has one. I've ran both of them. What's funny they still demand a good price. Seen one at Carr Auction , in Larned, Kansas, go for around $11,000, a few years back.
When I was 12 years old my dad traded in a DC Case for a brand new 1966 2510, gas tractor. With a “Rollamatic” tricycle front end. This was a brand new model that came out around Christmas of 1965. Also had the new side mount sickle mower. We used it on our family farm for row crops, cattle and hogs. That’s basically the tractor I learned on.
I drove a 4020 growing up in the Oklahoma Panhandle for my friend’s dad and uncle, and they are very smooth steering machines. It had an Egging cab with a radio, and I thought I was in heaven since it had a radio and a cab that provided shade.
Started with a H two cylinder. Later got a 720. Then a 72 4020 (new) which I still have. Added a 68 4020 LP to the remuda and then topped out with a 4440 (new). Good tractors!
I spent my youth on 4020s. We ended up having 5 of them.. We had cotton strippers on them and front end loaders and dozer blades.. We still have three, a row crop and two standards.. The row crop has a front end loader and gets used probably 3-4 days a week.. Without a doubt they had the best features, brakes and hydraulics of any brand of tractor on the market back then.. I'll never forget the day when dad bought a 4430.. Wow I finally had a cab with heat and air.. Dad sold the 4430 along with the other modern tractors fifteen years ago when he retired but no way was the 4020s or the 5020 leaving the farm.
Best brakes, yes they were ahead in brakes but I'd rather drive a 190XT or my 200 Allis. A 190 is more comfortable and has tilt steering and has better field vision and a better 3-point hitch. A bigger fuel tank located at the rear and is much easier on fuel. Other than brakes I rank a 190 better overall. We've farmed with at least one 190 since 1977 and have kept all four we have ever had and still have them...... Oh forgot Dad bought his second 190XT in the mid 1990's but my Deere loving father-in-law kept borrowing it for loader work until he talked Dad into selling it to him within a couple years. Between my Dad and myself and my brother we still own a 190, three 190XTs and I have a 200 which is just an updated 190XT. Would I like to own a 4020 one day? Yes I think they are a good tractor and is the tractor that saved John Deere from oblivion.
My cousin is a huge farmer in east central Saskatchewan and he owns four 4020's and he tries to buy every one he sees. Guy's don't want to part with them these days tho, they're icons!
My experience was that the 4020 was the big "work horse" tractor on the farm and they had smaller tractors with the front end loaders on them. Most of which I remember as being the small Ford tractor. I don't remember the model back then 60's and 70's.
Excelente video para un fans de la linea 20 como yo escuchar a esta gente que vivio esa epoca es espectacular, los detalles y esas cosas que cuenta este hombre, felicitaciones.👍
THE STORY ABOUT THE LOW HOUR TRADE IN TRACTORS REMINDED ME OF A GUY I WORKED WITH ON THE RAILROAD! EVERY 2 YEARS, HE WOULD PURCHASE A 2 YEAR OLD CHRYSLER! THE CAR WAS ALWAYS ORIGINALLY OWNED BY THE SAME FIRST OWNER! AND THERE WAS A THIRD GUY WAITING FOR THE SECOND OWNERS CAR AS WELL! THE SAME DEALERSHIP SALESMAN WAS ALWAYS IN EVERY TRANSACTION!
I believe when John deere built the 7520 it had the 4020 axles. We had one and at the time it was the boss. When we sold out tye 7520had a rod hanging out of the block. It sold for 15,500 and we paid 15,000.
we have 240-20s now one power shift narrow front end and one standard wide front end they are the best tractors John Deere has ever made. in my opinion. we have a 45-20 which is also an awesome powerhouse I can pull a 5 shank subsoiler 2 ft deep. still turns me on to hear them beller. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
There weren't very many 4020s around when I grew up. We grew lima beans in California and for cultivating and planting it was unnecessarily large, and for field work it was kind of small. We used track layers for that as our soil was a clay type that we subsoiled every year. We had a 3010 and a Alllis chamblers 185.
An old farmer friend told me that axle is not robust. It’s fine without a loader. But with a loader it’s not that hardy. His had a case front end grafted on.
@@jmanlinc My neighbor had two 5020's back in the 80's and by the end of the 80's one blew up the engine and the other snapped the front axle. They retired them and 20 years later rebuilt and restored one to be a parade queen. Those front axles aren't that robust because they are cast iron instead of steel.
@@SilverGleaner I don't know what they did with it but the one I speak of was retired with over 40000 hours on it (was rebuild around 15000 hours because it was time, not because it needed it) the loader was repaired many times from abuse, I personally broke 5 drawbars in it doing field work. It had the transmission repaired a few times due to the constant gear changing from 8 hours of loader work a day 6 months out of the year carrying 2000+ lb bales. In the late 70s early 80's the pump was turned up and as much weight as possible was added to it, it was pulling 28' of cultivator in the hills. I'm telling you that front end is virtually indestructible and you will not convince me otherwise.
@@jmanlinc 40,000 hours and only one rebuild! Wow! I've worked in a few shops over the years sat in many tractors, red, yellow, green, blue, orange and the most hours I ever saw on any tractor was 14,000 hours on an 856 with several TA's installed but I don't believe it had a rebuilt engine yet. 40,000 hours! Can't be but sharp edges left on the gears!
We had a 64 and a 67 model also we had a 63 model 4010 we raised cotton and soybeans the feature we liked was the belly PTO THAT WE USED TO RUN (ACE) CENTRIFUGAL SPRAY PUMPS FOR CHEMICAL APPLICATION...THE 4010s also would shear a pin that was difficult to replace if using a bush hog mower or a tillervator if you hit something...it could not take the shock
Did you have heating troubles? The M&W turbo usually made them over heat. Back in the 80's a friend of mine ordered a new aluminum oil pan with cooling fins to try to help his 4020 cool but it was always a problem when worked hard. It really needed an oil cooler and a bigger radiator to accommodate the turbo.
I recently went to the John Deere museum that’s located in an old factory building in Waterloo Iowa where those tractors were built new. There’s a video in there of them testing the roll over protection bars. John Deere invited the system and didn’t shared the information and testing with all manufacturers of tractors. They felt farmer safety was more important than profits and wanted every manufacturer to start including them on new tractors. That has changed the tractor industry, now it’s mandatory that they have roll over protection.
They really were ahead of the competition at that time. IH was still making the 560 which was a total disaster when introduced, although with all of the eventual updates they were not terrible. Some of the things he mentioned as good features I thought were not, like the fuel tank up front. Accidentally run the tank over and the fan sucked it in the oil cooler and radiator The syncro range transmission was a good one but the way it was set up pretty much made the synchronizers worthless for field work. To get to the next lower or higher gear you had to change ranges which were not synchronized. It was nice pulling a heavy load on the road though. You start in 6th and go to 8th, plenty of power to start in 6th and then shift up to road speed. I hated the 8 speed powershift, a huge gap between 4th and 5th and the 7-8 shift was rougher than a cob. The tractor was very durable in the powertrain, 4430 is basically the same powertrain behind the clutch with an additional 30 HP.
My granddad had a john deere 4020 except his had what we called tricycle wheels It was the most powerful tractor he owned. It worked side by side with his 1962 2010 model
I believe the Orthopaedic Doctor involved in designing that comfort seat was one Janet Travell. She also help President JFK, whom needed to wear a corset around the trunk of his body, possibly to alleviate back trouble, can't quite recall all the details. This video is really great, the old guy sure knows his onions and he seems a lot younger than his years too - obviously taking good care of his health
We bought one, we always ran IH my brother who hadn’t ever drove it was driving I was sitting on fender and hit the foot throttle which to us was unusual at the time he did not know what was going on pretty funny ai got a chuckle out of that
I love my 4020 it's a 69 model. Still a strong and reliable old tractor. I also have my granddad's 2440. My 69 must be before the serial number break because it is not like the one he showed. Mine is the older version. I also had a 4440 that thing was a horse. Only bad thing about it was it had a drinking problem lol. It had the old aftermarket cab and air on it.
we had a ih806...and after i left farm, worked for a guy that had a 4020...so much difference between the 2 tractors..the 806 seemed to be a much bigger one,,,,, but u cannot argue the sucess of the 4020
The 20 series tractor was a great tractor, easy to work on, reliable many running today. We had a 2020, there was a 3020 and a 4020. That seat was designed by president John F. Kennedy's back doctor, who desinged many seats for people with bad backs.
When Harold Brock departed ways with ford tractor operations he went on the develop the new generation Deere tractor and the rest is history. Brock wound up being the head of tractor development for Deere I believe. Machinery Pete interviewed him years ago.
worked at John Deere Welland works in the early 70's on a loader project to claw back the loader business from the will-fitters - became the 143, 145, 146, 148, 158 // then sold a bunch of 4430's in Western Canada and took 4020's in trade
148 loaders were junk! The loader frames that stayed on the tractor had no 45 degree bracing and were always cracked or broke. I finally bought a Westondorf loader, a lot easier and faster to put on and take off.
The later series put the air intake completely under the hood, while the early series (AKA the front mounted hydraulic levers) had the actual intake above the hood. My 1966 (early modeled 4020) has the intake on the hood.
I don't know who made this video but the guy talking behind the camera has obviously never went to the field with a 4020 I hope you get to experience it one day my friend hearing her pull it's so important can't wait to put my son on 1 of ours
@@tacomas9602 you mean like rubber tires? Turbocharged diesels? Automatic weight transfer? V belts? Powershift rims? Powershift transmissions? Pressure and flow compensated hydraulics? Quiet cabs?
Not all 4020's or 4000's had differential lock and like someone mentioned the traction booster on the 190 was superior to the Deere draft control and works super well once set. A 4020 spends a lot of it's time with the front end in the air when plowing in tough ground.
Gentlemen, don’t want to hurt your feelings but, as good as John Deere is there hydraulic lift system has never been as reliable or strong as several of its competitors. Challenger/Fendt is rated with a lot greater lift capacity. CaseIH is stff egg on her also . A Friend of mine was trying to buy a large JD fold up planter. Can’t remember the row amount. The JD dealer stopped him and ask what kind of tractor he was going to pull it with . He said CaseIH; the dealer said ok, because John Deere doesn’t have a tractor that can pick it up well enough to operate it . My Friend farms over 4000 acres and has several different brand of tractors .
@@nalley6815 Friend, my Son worked for My Friend that farmed those 4000 acres . The dealer was one if not the largest in the mid South . We’re talking front wheel assist tractors . Calling one a lier is surly not the Christian way of doing things . I’ve been around and drove over the years about all colors . I’m 65 and know for a fact on tractors from the late 60’s through the 90’s my old red tractors would out lift and out pull the green ones completely. My friend I did it continuously. My old 1466 would pull the ass end out of a 6030 equally weighted !
@@steventurner9744 I’ve got a hard time believing that Deere makes planters that their tractors can’t handle. If that’s the case then why do people almost always run Deere tractors with their Deere planters? Must’ve had a problem with that 6030 then because as much as they weigh and the power they have it should pull a 66 like it’s not even back there. I’m not a huge Deere fan even though I’m on my 2nd green tractor now and a green baler but back in the 60’s and 70’s Deere was so much further ahead than the competitors.
"nice video "Loved both the "Both" of the 4020;s 1967 & 1972 " I Still have 1972 4020 "I" just put a brand new set of BKT;; "Radials on it 18;4,34:s "Awesome Ride" !!!
I realize there were a huge number of 4020s sold. One big reason for that not often mentioned is they built them so long, for 9 years! Nearly all of the points he brings up are selling points over a 4010 or JD 730, but not competitive advantages against the better competition. The closed center hydraulics would be one point that was (though I wonder how many guys understood that in the 1960s), otherwise every single feature he mentioned was also commonly found on, say, an IH 856 or Oliver 1850. One big competitive disadvantage, seems to me, would be the 8 speed synchro-range trans. True, 4020 had an available full powershift too and that was a competitive advantage, but there were so few of them made with it, less than 10%? Either trans had only 8 speeds, and the synchro-range had the additional disadvantages of being confusing and hard to shift to many people, plus no powershift speeds at all. Someone should make a competitive comparison discussion of the 4020 to a 16-speed Farmall 856 or 826 and a 12- or 18-speed Oliver 1850, both having not only so many more speeds but also partial powershift on 90% of them built.
If you never had or ran one, you'd never understand. They hardly ever broke down, had power, traction, and balance that is literally unrivaled even today, they really handled easy. Farmall, Oliver, Allis, Ferguson,Massey, and Case always had something funky going wrong somewhere, be it the T/A, the pto, the wiring, the rear-end, the fuel pumps, you name it. The 4020 is as popular now or perhaps more so. Parts are readily available even today, most of it's rivals at the time are completely obsolete. Didn't mean to seemingly attack your opinion sir, merely asplainin why they're so loved.
Yes the Deere steps were no good at least through the 55 series. My buddy's 4755 is a treacherous climb for me if you miss that little left step on the way down. No room in that cab for a lunch bucket either. Heck I like my Allis 7050 cab better because I could have one or two of my kids ride with me with one sitting on the pad to the left rear of the seat and the other either squeezed behind on the right pad behind the seat or in the front cab corner and I still had room for a lunch box. Not so on the 4755.
I like all tractors and this 4020 looks very nice! I don't know all there is to know about them though.. I was wondering what IH model was the direct competitor to the 4020?
We had a 1970 mod 4520 with duals that we had to remove so we could use it to cultivate our 38 inch rows we raised cotton and beans in 38inch row spacing...
The gas model 4020 s used ungodly amounts of gasoline compared to diesels when doing tillage work .I never operated one but was told that by the dealer n others who owned or operated them . They drank gasoline like it was running out the bottom of the tank !
The biggest tractor my Dad ever owned was a 4020. When he retired in 2016 at the age of 89 years, he had three 4020's. He always said it was the best tractor Deere ever built. He is gone now and the farm is history. But the memories live forever. Thank you for the video.
Alot 4020's that have been preserved are retired and living on easy street. Okay it's not healthy to just sitting around but at least they are getting worked hard.
smart way of doing things, if one went down he would have spare parts for the others most likely.
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I grew up with 4010s and 4020s also , dad is also gone as well the ranch also. Like you so many great memories.
Why no more farm?
I just bought a 1965 4020. I found it while traveling around and assembling farm machinery. I own American implement assemblers. When we had a dairy farm in Minnesota my father-in-law had 2 4020s I've noticed nowadays the machinery has really changed since the 1980s. But I really like my job I hope I can do it for a long time
The 4020 is my favourite to this day.. I drove one back in the 70s, when in my teens, for 4 haymaking seasons.
The best of times..
Loved my '67 power shift 4020!! biggest tractor I ever owned. What a beauty!
My dad helped design these tractors. He was in Hydraulics and he worked on designing a new transmission for Deere. I can remember him drawing up the decal for the hydralics/three point cluster at home. The PTO cover is missing. Helped farm summers with 3010s 3020s
My dad also worked on the roll over guard and the testing. He got one for his brothers tractor, that my brother and I drove.
@@justfun985 A good dad he was!
When my uncle bought his 4020, I loved it. And it had the power shift. One day it was parked on our hill with the baler attached. On our Olivers, we would just coast down the hill and drop the clutch to start them. I tried this on the JD, only to realize I had no brakes, or steering, and it won't start that way. Only did that once.
White 2-85/2-105 will coast in Low range on the three speed ranges
Dad ordered a brand new 1966 4020 powershift with the roll guard factor installed on it. The 1964 4020 did not have a roll guard from the factory. I was a teenager at the time and put many an hours on both tractors. When I started farming in 1971 I bought a 1967 4020 powershift and still have and use the tractor today.
Nines years old on the farm driving the 4020. It was like playing in the sandbox.. which reminds me of how many tractors I’ve driven in my life.. we were dairy farmers.. you fellas know what I’m talking about.. it was never work when you were in the seat of one of those things.
Our 3020 replaced a gas 720, Dad was disappointed as it would not do as much work as the old two cylinder. The 4020 came along and what a fantastic tractor it was.
I had a 1972 4020 when I was farming, best machine I ever owned , couldn't hook it up wrong .
My Father had 4020 with a cab, heat and AC.
It had an OEM JD loader
When he went CRP he sold almost all the implements but kept the tractor
He used it with the loader for clearing snow and bought a JD 3 point mounted snowblower for the blizzards
Kept it in the shed and it always started and the cab was warm no matter how far below zero it was
He used it with Bush Hog for mowing and big tiller for the garden
He had it restored in the 00's and was still using it when he died at 89 a few years ago.
That is great. Thanks for sharing!
My Grandpa bought a brand new 4020 and it was the biggest tractor he ever owned. They used it for everything on the farm. My Grandpa has been gone since 1995 but he the 4020 is around and my Uncle uses it all the time.
What a nice guy. He had so much pride in the John Deere brand and his personal involvement in it.
My Grandpa bought a new 4020 around 1970 and although he is gone, the tractor is still around and is used all the time including moving trees during the derecho in Iowa.
My Dad purchased a 1968 used model 4020 in 1971 for about $7000. It was three years old and we had great luck with it. We put a year round cab on it after the first year and hauled manure with it year round, beside's normal spring and fall field work. Great memories, very little trouble with it. He checked the radiator one day and that front mounted fuel tank needed some water, so he added water!!! He realised what he'd done and called the dealership immediatly. They said no problem. get under the tank and turn on the peecock valve at the bottom, let the water out, shut it off when diesel starts coming out. Water is heavier than diesel, and it all went to the bottom! Easiest fix! We traded that 4020 off for a 4240 that we still own. That 4020 built Deere company into what it became. We currently own 3 Deere tractors, all purchased in the 80's, and still running quite well.
One knowledgeable man . So so interesting to hear him speak and demonstrate his knowledge
Fun fact: When John Deere went to show off the Roll Over Guard, the tractor it was mounted on had tipped over during the demonstration by accident. Operator and tractor were fine. Ended up being a happy unfortunate accident, but it showed off the ruggedness of it.
As a child in the 80s -90s, I grew up with my grandpa on his 4010 & 4020. Truly effortless steering on the 20. I'll never forget the look on his face when he came creeping around the corner of the field in his old cj5 to find me bellied out. To this day I don't have much of an ass left for whooping 😆
I never saw a model 4020 with pressed wheels on the back, unless they were modified for tractor pulling. Very knowledgeable individual. Thanks for sharing.
I was thinking the same thing! I bet it has been tractor pulling as you could get the tractor into more classes by getting the weight down!
That looks like a hub and pressed wheels for duals
My dad and uncle both worked at a john deere dealership back in the early 1960s in Lawrenceburg TN my uncle also farmed in the late 60s and early 70s and owned john deere tractors and equipment I also had many die cast toy model john deere tractors and equipment as a kid that green and yellow really caught my eye at a young age I have always loved john deere.
I still remember in the early 60's my father taking me to the John Deere dealer for John Deere day. They did not have any of the new 4 and 6 cylinder 10 series tractors delivered to them yet but Dad said to be sure to call when they got a 3010 in. They did one better and without any contact they drove in and unloaded a new 3010 and told Dad to go ahead and run it for a day. 24 hours later dad called the dealer and told them to leave it here and he was on the way to the bank. After that the next spring we acquired a 4010. 4 years later that was traded for a 4020 and 2 years after that we bought a 4320. This whole time we kept the 3010 and it had 9,000 hrs before we had to overhaul the moter. In reality it was the 10 series that changed everything.
I still have the3010 diesel my dad bought new in 1963. The dealer put 3020 pistons in it in 1966. We pulled 4 16 plow with it until he bought a 4010. I still have the 3010, and my sister-in-law has the 2520 my dad bought new
I remember filling one of those things with a hand pump at 1 in the morning. Took forever & several arm shifts. Great memories.
We had a 66 3020 standard shift, and my uncle had a 4020 power shift not sure the year but around that time. They were both great tractors.
Very nice review of the features and the variations through the years. Keith is one of the nicest and most honest salesmen you could ever want to meet. Obviously he’s also extremely knowledgeable. Thanks for putting this together.
These old tractors are better than the new ones. At least we are allowed to fix them.
American and BTI are 2 of the biggest JD dealers. My father-in-law had a couple of 4020's. Put in M&W pistons and upped the HP to around 150. I plowed many acres with that straight pipe JD! No cab, no umbrella, just the sun and the wind. Back then there was a Ensign dealer and a Cimarron dealer. Harvested wheat with a 55, 95, and a 105 combine. Hauled the wheat with a couple of Ford single axle trucks. Yep those were the good ole days.
Probably one of the most knowledgeable guys you will ever get an interview with for a 4020. Great video! Looking forward to seeing more. Hey from Ontario Canada. Always wanted to come explore Kansas. Josh
Still better than newer tractors. We just had ours fully rebuilt and restored to dam near factory new
I worked for a farmer he had four 4020 s with cabs great tractor
The best way to learn about the 4020 is to operate, maintain and service them. You learn their strengths and weaknesses and some tricks to overcome some of the weaknesses. It seems that a good farm back in the time of the 4020 had much more wealth and buying power than one does today. The farm community was strong and principled. I began my affections from the 4020 in 1988 when I got my first job on a small dairy. There were two diesels. A synchro, and a power shift. I enjoy using the one I own today and I guess that is a statement on its own.
When my dad moved to joiner Arkansas to start farming there. He bought 2 4010 and 3 4020. The other farmers were kinda jealous most of them still had the old 2 cyclers. He farmed 59 years and still had them. It's the tractors my brother and myself learned to drive around when we were 12. Great tractors we had a couple of cotton pickers. We would take the front end off the 4020s and put under the pickers so you have 2 wheels in the back set up on 38 inch rows.
This was soooooo good. I listened intently and learned a ton. Do another one with this guy agian! Thanks for posting it so we could enjoy it. Professor Dewey L.🌎😎👏🚜
Glad you enjoyed it!
I didn't see very much difference between the 4020 & my uncle's 4010 he had , I basically learned how to drive tractor on a 4010 . Sure brought back memories
The differences are not in the looks department for sure. I own a 64 4010 and a 70 4020. The differences are subtle, but the upgrades to the 4020 are good improvements. I wish I had a powershift trans, but when I bought my 4020 I couldn't pass it up and I can't justify purchasing another just to get a powershift.
My grandfather owns an LP 4020 with the bucket front, it's never failed us yet and it's a real hard worker, nice during the summer for picking up the bales
Awesome video, I’m hoping to buy my grandfather’s farm and might buy a 4020 when I do.
I own a 1969 4020 we still use it for utility work. When they were built they were the best tractor on the market. The 4020 was the most comfortable tractor of that time.
A very popular tractor. My grandfather and great uncle bought one brand new. And my father's brother in law has one. I've ran both of them. What's funny they still demand a good price. Seen one at Carr Auction , in Larned, Kansas, go for around $11,000, a few years back.
Very versatile tractor! Used it for just about everything! I loved that tractor!
When I was 12 years old my dad traded in a DC Case for a brand new 1966 2510, gas tractor. With a “Rollamatic” tricycle front end. This was a brand new model that came out around Christmas of 1965. Also had the new side mount sickle mower. We used it on our family farm for row crops, cattle and hogs. That’s basically the tractor I learned on.
I drove a 4020 growing up in the Oklahoma Panhandle for my friend’s dad and uncle, and they are very smooth steering machines. It had an Egging cab with a radio, and I thought I was in heaven since it had a radio and a cab that provided shade.
Started with a H two cylinder. Later got a 720. Then a 72 4020 (new) which I still have. Added a 68 4020 LP to the remuda and then topped out with a 4440 (new). Good tractors!
I spent my youth on 4020s. We ended up having 5 of them.. We had cotton strippers on them and front end loaders and dozer blades.. We still have three, a row crop and two standards.. The row crop has a front end loader and gets used probably 3-4 days a week.. Without a doubt they had the best features, brakes and hydraulics of any brand of tractor on the market back then.. I'll never forget the day when dad bought a 4430.. Wow I finally had a cab with heat and air.. Dad sold the 4430 along with the other modern tractors fifteen years ago when he retired but no way was the 4020s or the 5020 leaving the farm.
I sold the 5020 to a collector to restore 3 months ago. Still have the 4020. It has over 21000 hours on it.
Best brakes, yes they were ahead in brakes but I'd rather drive a 190XT or my 200 Allis. A 190 is more comfortable and has tilt steering and has better field vision and a better 3-point hitch. A bigger fuel tank located at the rear and is much easier on fuel. Other than brakes I rank a 190 better overall. We've farmed with at least one 190 since 1977 and have kept all four we have ever had and still have them...... Oh forgot Dad bought his second 190XT in the mid 1990's but my Deere loving father-in-law kept borrowing it for loader work until he talked Dad into selling it to him within a couple years. Between my Dad and myself and my brother we still own a 190, three 190XTs and I have a 200 which is just an updated 190XT. Would I like to own a 4020 one day? Yes I think they are a good tractor and is the tractor that saved John Deere from oblivion.
My cousin is a huge farmer in east central Saskatchewan and he owns four 4020's and he tries to buy every one he sees. Guy's don't want to part with them these days tho, they're icons!
This is a great video, grew up on a 4020
I have a 71 model I bought in 1990. Use it every day. Best tractor ever made.
That is awesome!
My experience was that the 4020 was the big "work horse" tractor on the farm and they had smaller tractors with the front end loaders on them. Most of which I remember as being the small Ford tractor. I don't remember the model back then 60's and 70's.
Excelente video para un fans de la linea 20 como yo escuchar a esta gente que vivio esa epoca es espectacular, los detalles y esas cosas que cuenta este hombre, felicitaciones.👍
THE STORY ABOUT THE LOW HOUR TRADE IN TRACTORS
REMINDED ME OF A GUY I WORKED WITH ON THE RAILROAD!
EVERY 2 YEARS, HE WOULD PURCHASE A 2 YEAR OLD CHRYSLER!
THE CAR WAS ALWAYS ORIGINALLY OWNED BY THE SAME
FIRST OWNER!
AND THERE WAS A THIRD GUY WAITING FOR THE SECOND
OWNERS CAR AS WELL!
THE SAME DEALERSHIP SALESMAN WAS ALWAYS IN EVERY TRANSACTION!
I believe when John deere built the 7520 it had the 4020 axles. We had one and at the time it was the boss. When we sold out tye 7520had a rod hanging out of the block. It sold for 15,500 and we paid 15,000.
Awesome video. Love that white agri king in the background. That’s what I learned to drive on.
I'd listen to Keith Wood teach about farm equipment for hours
He is a legend!
we have 240-20s now one power shift narrow front end and one standard wide front end they are the best tractors John Deere has ever made. in my opinion. we have a 45-20 which is also an awesome powerhouse I can pull a 5 shank subsoiler 2 ft deep. still turns me on to hear them beller. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
There was a story going around about a salesman that sold 25 in the same month back in the day was it you?
There weren't very many 4020s around when I grew up. We grew lima beans in California and for cultivating and planting it was unnecessarily large, and for field work it was kind of small. We used track layers for that as our soil was a clay type that we subsoiled every year. We had a 3010 and a Alllis chamblers 185.
An old farmer friend told me that axle is not robust. It’s fine without a loader. But with a loader it’s not that hardy. His had a case front end grafted on.
It was the spindles that broke, my father installed a 5020 front axle on his 4010, it was indestructible after that and believe me we tried😂
@@jmanlinc My neighbor had two 5020's back in the 80's and by the end of the 80's one blew up the engine and the other snapped the front axle. They retired them and 20 years later rebuilt and restored one to be a parade queen. Those front axles aren't that robust because they are cast iron instead of steel.
@@SilverGleaner I don't know what they did with it but the one I speak of was retired with over 40000 hours on it (was rebuild around 15000 hours because it was time, not because it needed it) the loader was repaired many times from abuse, I personally broke 5 drawbars in it doing field work. It had the transmission repaired a few times due to the constant gear changing from 8 hours of loader work a day 6 months out of the year carrying 2000+ lb bales. In the late 70s early 80's the pump was turned up and as much weight as possible was added to it, it was pulling 28' of cultivator in the hills. I'm telling you that front end is virtually indestructible and you will not convince me otherwise.
@@jmanlinc 40,000 hours and only one rebuild! Wow! I've worked in a few shops over the years sat in many tractors, red, yellow, green, blue, orange and the most hours I ever saw on any tractor was 14,000 hours on an 856 with several TA's installed but I don't believe it had a rebuilt engine yet. 40,000 hours! Can't be but sharp edges left on the gears!
We had a 64 and a 67 model also we had a 63 model 4010 we raised cotton and soybeans the feature we liked was the belly PTO THAT WE USED TO RUN (ACE) CENTRIFUGAL SPRAY PUMPS FOR CHEMICAL APPLICATION...THE 4010s also would shear a pin that was difficult to replace if using a bush hog mower or a tillervator if you hit something...it could not take the shock
I loved my 4020, M&W Turbo, powershift, cab.
Donde compro kit para turbo?
Did you have heating troubles? The M&W turbo usually made them over heat. Back in the 80's a friend of mine ordered a new aluminum oil pan with cooling fins to try to help his 4020 cool but it was always a problem when worked hard. It really needed an oil cooler and a bigger radiator to accommodate the turbo.
Very nice 👌 restored 👏 4020.
I recently went to the John Deere museum that’s located in an old factory building in Waterloo Iowa where those tractors were built new. There’s a video in there of them testing the roll over protection bars. John Deere invited the system and didn’t shared the information and testing with all manufacturers of tractors. They felt farmer safety was more important than profits and wanted every manufacturer to start including them on new tractors. That has changed the tractor industry, now it’s mandatory that they have roll over protection.
oil brakes was what set them apart from all other tractors at the time we had 3 4020s and a 4000 a late 1872 model and still have it
Unless the tractor was dead, then they didn't work
@@RJ1999x Dead Tractors are in park and not moving RJ1999.
@@davidadcock3382 Not if you have to pull them off a trailer, or load them
@@RJ1999x Pulling them off or loading them with a winch is a controlled situation and luckily only happen to me with my Allises.
@@davidadcock3382 Lol, doubtful.
Allis brakes work if they're dead, even the hydraulic ones.
Nice try
The 4320 was everything the 4020 should of been, two of the greatest tractors ever built.
They really were ahead of the competition at that time. IH was still making the 560 which was a total disaster when introduced, although with all of the eventual updates they were not terrible. Some of the things he mentioned as good features I thought were not, like the fuel tank up front. Accidentally run the tank over and the fan sucked it in the oil cooler and radiator The syncro range transmission was a good one but the way it was set up pretty much made the synchronizers worthless for field work. To get to the next lower or higher gear you had to change ranges which were not synchronized. It was nice pulling a heavy load on the road though. You start in 6th and go to 8th, plenty of power to start in 6th and then shift up to road speed. I hated the 8 speed powershift, a huge gap between 4th and 5th and the 7-8 shift was rougher than a cob. The tractor was very durable in the powertrain, 4430 is basically the same powertrain behind the clutch with an additional 30 HP.
My granddad had a john deere 4020 except his had what we called tricycle wheels
It was the most powerful tractor he owned. It worked side by side with his 1962 2010 model
I believe the Orthopaedic Doctor involved in designing that comfort seat was one Janet Travell. She also help President JFK, whom needed to wear a corset around the trunk of his body, possibly to alleviate back trouble, can't quite recall all the details.
This video is really great, the old guy sure knows his onions and he seems a lot younger than his years too - obviously taking good care of his health
Great rundown!
That man is Really doing a job.
We bought one, we always ran IH my brother who hadn’t ever drove it was driving I was sitting on fender and hit the foot throttle which to us was unusual at the time he did not know what was going on pretty funny ai got a chuckle out of that
I owned a 67 model hi crop. Sure wish I had it today
Getting our ‘67 redone now
I would love to have a beer with this guy.
I love my 4020 it's a 69 model. Still a strong and reliable old tractor. I also have my granddad's 2440. My 69 must be before the serial number break because it is not like the one he showed. Mine is the older version. I also had a 4440 that thing was a horse. Only bad thing about it was it had a drinking problem lol. It had the old aftermarket cab and air on it.
I rember in the mid1979's My Uncle John Hardy proudly pulling up on his 4020 John deere before going out to the field.
What great memories!
we had a ih806...and after i left farm, worked for a guy that had a 4020...so much difference between the 2 tractors..the 806 seemed to be a much bigger one,,,,, but u cannot argue the sucess of the 4020
I drove a JD-4020 for 3 seasons in the mid 70"s.
4020 was a great tractor ran a narrow front one for years
We still have a 64 4020 my inlaws bought over 30 years ago.
The 20 series tractor was a great tractor, easy to work on, reliable many running today. We had a 2020, there was a 3020 and a 4020. That seat was designed by president John F. Kennedy's back doctor, who desinged many seats for people with bad backs.
Very good tractor, the trouble they put the gas tank in front of the radiator so if you pulled hard it would overheat. Owned one for 35 years
When Harold Brock departed ways with ford tractor operations he went on the develop the new generation Deere tractor and the rest is history. Brock wound up being the head of tractor development for Deere I believe. Machinery Pete interviewed him years ago.
My grandpas 4010 is almost the same as these
Great vid!
worked at John Deere Welland works in the early 70's on a loader project to claw back the loader business from the will-fitters - became the 143, 145, 146, 148, 158 // then sold a bunch of 4430's in Western Canada and took 4020's in trade
148 loaders were junk! The loader frames that stayed on the tractor had no 45 degree bracing and were always cracked or broke. I finally bought a Westondorf loader, a lot easier and faster to put on and take off.
Air intake is different on front tractor why?
The later series put the air intake completely under the hood, while the early series (AKA the front mounted hydraulic levers) had the actual intake above the hood. My 1966 (early modeled 4020) has the intake on the hood.
That was one sweet tractor ,, put many hours on one ..
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Everyone has their favorite.
Nothing wrong with that. The we people thanks for the farmers out there. Who gives our food!
I don't know who made this video but the guy talking behind the camera has obviously never went to the field with a 4020 I hope you get to experience it one day my friend hearing her pull it's so important can't wait to put my son on 1 of ours
Our 4000 with differential lock could plow during a wet fall when the 190 would just spin. That was the beginning of the end of our Allis years.
Lol, because you didn't know how to run the traction booster
@@RJ1999x to be fair Allis Chalmers had weird ideas
@@tacomas9602 you mean like rubber tires?
Turbocharged diesels?
Automatic weight transfer?
V belts?
Powershift rims?
Powershift transmissions?
Pressure and flow compensated hydraulics?
Quiet cabs?
Not all 4020's or 4000's had differential lock and like someone mentioned the traction booster on the 190 was superior to the Deere draft control and works super well once set. A 4020 spends a lot of it's time with the front end in the air when plowing in tough ground.
I still have a D 14 that is about my age. When I drove that JD 4000 I was about 15.
John Deere is still way ahead of all the other's in the hydraulic department
Pretty much everything else too.
Gentlemen, don’t want to hurt your feelings but, as good as John Deere is there hydraulic lift system has never been as reliable or strong as several of its competitors. Challenger/Fendt is rated with a lot greater lift capacity. CaseIH is stff egg on her also . A Friend of mine was trying to buy a large JD fold up planter. Can’t remember the row amount. The JD dealer stopped him and ask what kind of tractor he was going to pull it with . He said CaseIH; the dealer said ok, because John Deere doesn’t have a tractor that can pick it up well enough to operate it . My Friend farms over 4000 acres and has several different brand of tractors .
@@steventurner9744 either that’s a lie or that dealer is just completely wrong.
@@nalley6815 Friend, my Son worked for My Friend that farmed those 4000 acres . The dealer was one if not the largest in the mid South . We’re talking front wheel assist tractors . Calling one a lier is surly not the Christian way of doing things . I’ve been around and drove over the years about all colors . I’m 65 and know for a fact on tractors from the late 60’s through the 90’s my old red tractors would out lift and out pull the green ones completely. My friend I did it continuously. My old 1466 would pull the ass end out of a 6030 equally weighted !
@@steventurner9744 I’ve got a hard time believing that Deere makes planters that their tractors can’t handle. If that’s the case then why do people almost always run Deere tractors with their Deere planters? Must’ve had a problem with that 6030 then because as much as they weigh and the power they have it should pull a 66 like it’s not even back there. I’m not a huge Deere fan even though I’m on my 2nd green tractor now and a green baler but back in the 60’s and 70’s Deere was so much further ahead than the competitors.
"nice video "Loved both the "Both" of the 4020;s 1967 & 1972 " I Still have 1972 4020 "I" just put a brand new set of BKT;; "Radials on it 18;4,34:s "Awesome Ride" !!!
I realize there were a huge number of 4020s sold. One big reason for that not often mentioned is they built them so long, for 9 years!
Nearly all of the points he brings up are selling points over a 4010 or JD 730, but not competitive advantages against the better competition. The closed center hydraulics would be one point that was (though I wonder how many guys understood that in the 1960s), otherwise every single feature he mentioned was also commonly found on, say, an IH 856 or Oliver 1850. One big competitive disadvantage, seems to me, would be the 8 speed synchro-range trans. True, 4020 had an available full powershift too and that was a competitive advantage, but there were so few of them made with it, less than 10%? Either trans had only 8 speeds, and the synchro-range had the additional disadvantages of being confusing and hard to shift to many people, plus no powershift speeds at all. Someone should make a competitive comparison discussion of the 4020 to a 16-speed Farmall 856 or 826 and a 12- or 18-speed Oliver 1850, both having not only so many more speeds but also partial powershift on 90% of them built.
If you never had or ran one, you'd never understand. They hardly ever broke down, had power, traction, and balance that is literally unrivaled even today, they really handled easy. Farmall, Oliver, Allis, Ferguson,Massey, and Case always had something funky going wrong somewhere, be it the T/A, the pto, the wiring, the rear-end, the fuel pumps, you name it. The 4020 is as popular now or perhaps more so. Parts are readily available even today, most of it's rivals at the time are completely obsolete. Didn't mean to seemingly attack your opinion sir, merely asplainin why they're so loved.
The john deere 3010 3020 4010 and 4020 are the only john deeres I like
The last JD I was intimate w was the D. We had Oliver. Minneapolis-Moline. AC and Massey's (which we settled on never looked back).
The 4020 is a fantastic tractor
100% agree! Thanks for watching!
Cut my teeth on a 69 model. Love it.
Dual was a heavy loader! We had 1 on our 930 case...
I liked the power shift best on the 4020
There is an aftermarket company that makes a nice set of steps for 4020s , makes it much easier and safer to get on and off off one .
Yes the Deere steps were no good at least through the 55 series. My buddy's 4755 is a treacherous climb for me if you miss that little left step on the way down. No room in that cab for a lunch bucket either. Heck I like my Allis 7050 cab better because I could have one or two of my kids ride with me with one sitting on the pad to the left rear of the seat and the other either squeezed behind on the right pad behind the seat or in the front cab corner and I still had room for a lunch box. Not so on the 4755.
my daddy bought the second 4020 that was sold in dyer county dad and neighbors thought it was a monster
I like all tractors and this 4020 looks very nice! I don't know all there is to know about them though.. I was wondering what IH model was the direct competitor to the 4020?
806 OR 856 IN IHC
We had a 1970 mod 4520 with duals that we had to remove so we could use it to cultivate our 38 inch rows we raised cotton and beans in 38inch row spacing...
Thank you Robert! I was just wondering since I always hear good things about 4020s I just wanted to compare an IH equivalent.
How come no mention of the 4020 gas his opinion was wanted excellent video just not finished
We too had a 4020 gas
There was also a 4020 butane model.
The gas model 4020 s used ungodly amounts of gasoline compared to diesels when doing tillage work .I never operated one but was told that by the dealer n others who owned or operated them . They drank gasoline like it was running out the bottom of the tank !
@@slundgr propane
Wasn't fuel efficient grind three loads of feed it was low on gas