I actually did an internship at DS in the Netherlands and did a roadshow for them where I drove the car all around the country for 3 weeks. I've driven 7000km in it during these 3 weeks and I can say nothing less than in being a fantastic car. Comfortable, luxurious, quick, and very good looking. Also, people react very excited when they see the car. It is like nothing else on the road.
Really like this brand, have always had a spot for Peugeot/Citroen, I hope they make their electric car soon and it's one of the best so DS stick around long enough for me to buy one, and they make one I want.
Agree could be an interesting contender. I have slipped somewhat in keeping up on motoring journalism from my days of religiously secretly buying monthly mags as a pre teen teen and young man combined with more pressing issues in life taking over. Slacked terribly with monitoring EVs. When I saw an Ionic 5 go by the first time a few months ago and could not fully see the back of it my initial thoughts were it could be a DS as it looked interesting.
I was shuttled in a DS9 a while back, absolutely blew me off my feet: outside looks fantastic, but the interior is just a whole different level. I'd honestly consider it over an S-class to be honest.
I had had a DS7 for 3 years till Nov '21 and I haven't got a bad word to say about it. It was the Grand Chic Opéra 2.0L HDI and it was fault-free for the period I had it. Did some travels across the whole Europe, great car for long travels, dynamic enough, while being extremely comfortable. At the beginning of my ownership, it always caused a stir - people came up, asked about it, wanted to get in and see. The thing that surprised me the most was the sheer quality of the interior trim, even after 3 years of use, the interior still looked perfect (and the leather had this nice natural smell), no plastics squeaked.
@@martingilvray06 Well for its capabilities, I'd say yes. But then the 2.0L HDI engine was the perfect choice for the car, I think. Enough to give it some power through the city and on the German motorways. Not claiming sports cars numbers, but enough to still make it fun to drive
As a petrolhead, I am so happy that cars like this are still made, cars that are centered around being as luxurious and comfortable as possible given the price. I would very happily take any DS as a daily driver. Would still have my 1.8T A3 for fun driving
Yep, you can't drive hard anymore, far too many cameras, potholes and strange drivers out there now. Comfort and luxury are the two things I care about.
I absolutely agree, as a daily driver, it's luxurious and a bit special. In an ideal world (a world that would include me having pots of cash and where people had enough to eat and heat and no wars) I would probably do the same as you and have something more sporty for the weekends. (I'd probably buy an Aston Martin DBX, like the one that overtook Jay). Unfortunately we don't live in that world, so bring on the DS4!
Phantastic design. Interior is the antipole to the cheap plastic cabins of T-Roc and Golf 8. Value for money and respect to the customer spending much money for a new car.
I'm glad to hear there are still some cars that don't pretend to be track weapons all the time. A lot of the time I just want to go from one place to another and be comfortable. Good for Citroen/DS.
I had a DS5 for a couple of years. Gorgeous looking, practical and great to drive. Felt very special. Sadly that 1.6 turbo engine wore through 4 timing chains and a turbo in that period (stretched). All the French parts where well made, it was that German designed (BMW 1 series, Mini) bits that let it down.
@@Sirius90125 but designed in collaboration with BMW whom had the greater input. The BMW and Mini versions are made at Hams Hall Plant near Birmingham, United Kingdom
@@Sirius90125 Where did you get that info from? It was an engine that was build by collaboration between PSA and BMW. They rush the design phase to replace the problematic Tritec engines.
I’ve got a THP in my DS3 and have noticed that running thicker oil (i.e 5w40 or 10w60 ) with short intervals (15k kms / 9500 mi ) will mostly solve the timing chain
The French lads are making some really good and interesting stuff at the moment. I've got a Peugeot 508 and it's fantastic. The 208 and new 308 look great. DS7 is one of the more interesting SUVs (ditto 3008). This DS4 looks good too. Nice to have something different at least.
Yeah i love their planned obsolescence engines with internal cambelt that can easily fail at 100-120k because rubber belts are not meant to be drenched in oil. Speaks volumes of their engineering prowess. Just get a toyota.
@@smwatson1512 what an ignorant approach to cars. Fyi bmw have never made a good sports car, and their modern cars are TERRIBLE compared to what they were doing in the 90s and early 00s. The only good bmw in the last decade is the newest m5 cs (competition and regular m5 are so underwhelming). Hegarty, whatcar, evo etc. all have this approach
Great review some people have no desire for a sporty car and want comfort and this is who this car is aimed at. I’m a bit fed up of every manufacturer trying to make everything sporty.
This looks like a really good car, especially with it being more centered around being comfortable and not trying to act like a sporty vehicle. What happened to the days where we had cars that just had nice rides for around town and long trips? If I wanted a sporty ride, i would by a sports car or German car.
I remember driving behind a car going just and just the speed limit, which was 80kmh. The driver whenever the speed limit would go from 80kmh to 100kmh, would take years to accelerate and they were creating a fairly big line, i was about 1 or 2 cars behind the slow driver, and suddenly behind me comes a Ds5 or a 7, cant remember which. Once the road straightened and the DS had room to go, man did it go. I looked in the rear view mirror and saw it indicate and by the time i had shifted my eyes back towards the road in front of me, the DS was about a cars length ahead of me, it was absolutely zooming. Id love me one of those DS Sedans.
@@papa_pt Where's the competition though? There's nothing else to touch it at the price point, quality wise. I'm thinking about getting either one of these or a Citroën C5X (I know, Two very different cars, but the same engine and gear box) I drove a DS7 Opera on hire in the South of France back in 2019 for a couple of weeks and it just wafted along, eating up the miles and when my co driver said "foot to the floor" I did and it never disappointed. Never felt under powered. So yes, there are many faster cars out there, but nowhere near as classy and comfortable as one of these.
I'm gonna lend you my Peugeot 308 GTi. Proper underrated car. And about as rare as they come. French cars are making a return! Partly thanks to stellantis
Currently my family has a DS5 2013, 2.0L diesel engine, 160HP (we bought it in 2016) and it's closing in on 9 years old. It has been working flawlessly since acquisition, no mechanical problems whatsoever; runs smoothly, still puts out serious power. We absolutely love the build, style, and for a 2013 car it looks beautiful as heck (we think it still competes with many 2020+ cars in looks). I've been so impressed and satisfied with it, it made me keep an eye out for both the DS9 and the new DS4 and I have a massive itch with the DS9
Your absolutely right James, the French have always been very good at luxury cars. I'd love a C6 or a Safrane. I actually owned a Laguna 2 Privilege for several years and though it was aimed at the MK2 Mondeo and the Vectra it certainly felt like a car from a class above. S lot of friends owned 3 series BMW at the time but the Laguna was better equipped and I'm terms of size and comfort was closer to a 5 series. Always liked the old DS4. I had a DS3 THP 155 back in 2013 which felt classy for the segment.
I’ve been a petrolhead since I first started to drive at the age of 18, now at the young age of 75 my petrolhead enthusiasm has never waned. Having owned many cars during my lifetime I have never owned a French car, however, my eldest Son bought a Citroen C5 AirCross, 4 years later and has had not one issue with it, he has just ordered a new one. I went with him when he went to order his new car, at the dealership they also have a DS showroom! I was HOOKED! They had a BEAUTIFUL DS9 Intense along with a DS4 Intense, OMG! How absolutely GORGEOUS, BEAUTIFUL and FANTASTIC these cars are❤️❤️ Sadly, beyond my price range but boy do they deserve to sell well, such a lovely change to see a car that is NOT the usual in your face sports style, roar, roar AND expensive German brands. Paul 🇬🇧
The DS 9 is my dream new car (well, one of 'em... 😅😅) so I'm glad you made this video! Wait...double glazing, 360 cameras, front & rear parking sensors, heated AND VENTILLATED SEATS AS STANDARD? 🤯 Maan I've got to have it
"As standard" only if you buy a high spec trim..the 25k£ doesn't come with these..at least that's what they're saying on the UK website car builder tool.
The DS & Peugeot stuff (most things under the PSA group) are actually quirky and higher quality than you expect these days, I do really feel that the DS lineup does target lexus.
The most beautiful cars around the road! The design is just sublime...a mix between Japanese and European looks....those are the cars that don't let you sleep at night....
Fabulous. How refreshing to see (Citroën) this brand - DS - coming to the fore. They (Citroën) really have got their mojo back and giving DS their wings to fly free is perfect.
I have ordered a DS4 plug in hybrid and should be getting it in March - I am getting it from a dealership in Stirling the service I have had has been great, they have kept me up to date every step of the way
Nice review. This could make a great company car. What’s the Electric only range on the PHEV version? For this type of car I would take refinement, comfort and waftyness at the expense of sportiness. I don’t see it as a negative at all. More cars should aim for ultimate comfort in my opinion. I have a BMW for more spirited driving. The ride is very compromised on bumpy roads though. Horses for courses.
I own a DS 7 2,0d Performance line. I changed to this from a 17 plate qashqai tekna. I wanted something a bit left field and definetly have that. I have hardly seen any others on the road and have had one fault, a rear light cluster seal failure which was replaced under warrenty within two weeks as the part had to come from France. The two big problems for me is when I first got the car and was unfamiliar to the switchgear was the ability to apply the electronic hand brake whilst driving at speed! I confused it for the window up button. The second is you cannot use a Citreon garage to carry out any warranty repairs, it has to be a approved DS garage and in my case the nearest is 53 miles away.
@@bmwman1981 Had a c class W204 sold it, got a DS5h, sold that now i have an A6 C7.5. From all my card the DS was the most reliable. Don't really know what is with this unreliable BS, the 1.5 dci engine from renault is bulletproof the 1.6 and 2.0 hdi engines are good as well. All car makers fuck up VW had horrible problems with TSi engines and DSG transmissions BMW had horrible problems with their diesel engines form 2010 to 2015. And Xdrive systems(transfer case to be precise). There is no saint in reliability(maybe lexus). I like PSA for one and the direction they are going they bought Opel and made it profitable after 15 years of financial problems unde GM, and now the merger with Fiat gives me hope they will revive brands like Lancia who don't deserve their fate.
Been seeing these cars here in Ethiopia the past few months. They are such a delight to look at. They look like jewelry, in the shape of a car. They are also priced quite well with their competition.
recently after my trip to France, I want one. However, sadly I live in the USA. I think it’s going to be perfect for the American market and to be honest they’re strategy works perfectly for Americans. Hope they can be the first French brand to be successful over here.
Great review. The DS9 seems to go round the track well so maybe a performance version of the DS 4 will come later. Could certainly make me think of changing.
have been waiting for reviews of this...seems like its getting so many things right and avoiding the trap of so many heading off to sporty cars...would be nice to see if they can get some of that dynamic a little better sorted but this will work, as is, for the majority of (potential) customers
I had ds7, my wife had a ds3. Never invited to any events. Great cars, the downside is the number of dealers. I live in Wakefield so either Manchester or York.
Superb looking car. Reminds me of a Bertone show car. I’m on my second A3…. Very happy but now looking at a future replacement, and this has my attention.
As a bored German car customer I would love to try a DS .Until they offer a proper no quibble 7 year warranty with a guaranteed identical curtsy car I doubt few will take the risk.
I've seen a couple of DS 7s, and my thoughts? They look a bit luxury and upmarket, and they stand out because relatively few people buy them. I mean, I know they derive from a Citroen, and a lot of people will also know this and be put off "because they are French" and "German cars are reliable and desirable". I have to say though, what Stellantis are doing with a lot of their brands is quite commendable though. Peugeots are looking the best they have for years, and as are Vauxhalls. When you look at an average car and think "that actually looks really good", and you don't get the same vibe looking at a premium German brand, who thrive on giving people "a bit of the same, just tweaked a bit to keep sufficiently fresh". Mind you, there is BMW's latest styling, which on the 4-series I quite like, but on their SUVs looks awkward.
I’ve owned a c6 CX DS21 and 2 cv the older cars were wonderful . The c6 was delicate and needed continual work . It was the lat Citroen I have owned I doubt I will ever go back
The other day I saw a brand new DS7 as I was driving and I noticed his brake lights weren't working only to realise when I stopped at traffic light that they were full of water to me that shows they still have some ways to go
I have, and always will have, an affinity for the brand having owned a 2012 DS5 for three years. Easily the most unique car I've ever driven. Not a single issue with it, aside from one minor electronic gremlin that was quickly resolved by the dealer. After-sales at the time was very good too. When Citroen decided to leave South Africa in late 2016 (and return three years later), I thought I was being smart by trading in for a 2017 Audi A4 - I was wrong and still miss my DS5.
Would like to see you review the DS5 from about 2012 onwards. It's now quite "cheap" and interior was beautiful backat the time with the optional seats in tan.
pleeeeease drive a 60’s or 70’s alfa GT 105 series this year! After lusting after an old porsche restomod but seeing them all skyrocket in value, i think the base for an alfaholics gta-r 290 is still amazing value!! Everybody needs to know about them!
Citroën has always been for comfort and Peugeot for involving or sporty driving experience. Same or very closely related chassis but very different tunings. So you should really try the equivalent Peugeot if that is what you like. I really like my wife's 308 (main reason why I bought it) and it is a non GTI Allure model so not even a faster one ... and my daily is a 911 and I own classic V8 Ferraris too so I am really into feel and handling and track days to stretch the cars wheels. Despite that, chucking around the little 308 is a fun and pleasurable experience, good steering feel for a modern car (that is not a Porsche) and very good handling and it is so light (1.2t) that even with 130bhp it isn't sluggish at all and fast enough for the road.
It obviously depends on the Generation 308: 308 I (2007-2014), 308 II (2013-2021) and now 308 III (2021-today) I live in Germany and work in a car dealership where the majority of ppl drive the regular Polarsilver old Mercedes A- & B-Classes with black cloth seats and the regular Opel (or in some cases Vauxhall) Meriva and Corsa with the usual dark gray/grey seats.. I love it when I see cars with different colored seats or even brown, gray or white sterring wheels. And thats what I love about Peugeot and the new DS models they offered that in the past or in case of DS still do. The gearbox if it's not the 6-speed manual is not really as good as I wish it would be but still ok definitely fine I drove a 207cc a few weeks ago and man that car handeled good, just 120hp but it cornered well and the steering is responsive I liked the car and don't know why Peugeot is considered a "woman's" brand.
@@chriskonte1909 I was talking of a 308 II. And Peugeot is not a woman's car, I learnt how to drive in a 205 GTD and have fond memories of this car. The 308II is my wife's car and the family car because we need one and she likes having a practical car. I like 2-seater sports cars and she doesn't like them ... Wouldn't drive one and reluctantly agrees to be a passenger. But I drive the 308 often as I am the official family driver and would rather not drive in general.
Considered one of these a few years back as a second car and went for an astra k 1.4t which has 150bhp and a sport button that believe it or not actually makes it feel livlier. Im generally sceptical about said button in shoppers but I agree sometimes its nice to just enjoy a regular car. My main cars nothing exotic and I hired a new focus 1.0 3cyl ecoboost the other weekend to go Edinburgh from Canterbury. Was a good blast even 3 up after Newcastle when the A1 became semi interesting. Runs rings round the astra for handling even if its down on power. Was a 125bhp one with regular 205 high profiled teeny wheels. Miss it now.
@@bensmithkent22 I think the sport button is only on the highest spec and with the automatic gearbox but unsure. We don't have a sport button on our car which is a manual.
Very interesting car! Just looks and, from everything I heard, feels different. Inside you get that "french chic"-feel, but in a good way, the exterior I like a lot too. You've got a point though that it comes across a little Japanese, Toyota and Lexus also have this busy style with lots of creases. Also, I had this feeling it's a car not too much unlike the Infiniti Q30. Anyway, a little more variety in the cars we see everyday is always most welcome and the DS 4 just appeals to me. Stellantis does a better job than VAG with creating a specific look and feel for their many brands. If they can do this with DS, imagine what they could do with Lancia and Alfa Romeo ...
If the rubber side wall is tall, it won't have a poor ride quality. Usually the ride quality goes down when you go for larger wheels because you get less rubber and cushioning. The overall wheel size (metal + rubber) has to stay the same, therefore more metal less rubber. Actually, larger overall wheels tend to fare better with small path holes - there is less of a drop inside the path hole.
This is a great looking car! The only small gripe for me is the odd bit of switch gear that I’ve seen in Citroens of old, for example the indicator stalk (apart from the chrome ring) that my fathers 2017 Citroen dispatch van has got.
I had a 2012 DS3 THP a few years ago as i wanted something different to the Fiesta ST. Only owned the car for a year before having to get rid due to awful reliabilty. I hope they've made that 1.6 petrol engine a bit more reliable. Ended up getting an ST in the end and loved it, but if the DS3 was more reliable i reakon i would of kept it as it was great fun to drive when running.
Yeah the THP engines are still crap if they survived to this day but man they do go and have that nice "zoom zoom" sound even at low RPM. The current generation of 1.6l engines is way better as soon as these engines hit EURO 6 emissions they got rid of all the MINI/BMW comnponents as far as I know.
If I go for one (DS3 155) I’m going to try to buy the most recent year I can with a good service history and perhaps even a tensioner replacement. Still not sure about the whole thing though :/
One thing i don't like about French cars is a lot of interior parts like radio controls and Colum stalks are from cars 20 years ago, glad to see DS is different.
It would be quite temptation if this brand makes some of last hurrah stylish MPV...with this luxury&comfy set up...I would love to have such spaceous transporteur....
Forget about the Germans they've been boring and plain for several years now. The DS4 looks absolutely amazing inside and the exterior aswell. Flair level max. I don't think I would like the ride character completely though... Need to try it but from different videos I've seen it doesn't sound so fun. Okey it does the comfy gliding around thing very good it seems, but driving for me is also about having fun and getting a smile on your face from time to time. Cupra Formentor has almost the same level of style but I think it's a lot nicer to drive. Will be interesting to try the DS4 and compare overall package.
Booking a test drive at the moment and you will be waiting a while, like the actual cars being purchased the demonstrator cars won't be available until March at the earliest, so those people like myself who have ordered the DS 4 La Premiere won't get an opertunity to drive a DS 4 until the production cars are delivered which is a real shame.
In a car like this, I would not care about the sporting factor or in its case, the lack of it. I would live without it, happily. Great review of what seems to be a very promising car (brand).
I tried the normal new c4 with the hydro cushions and man driving on cobblestone was like nothing. You should try it! It's not like a Xm but it was really comfy for the price. And less of a reliability nightmare
@@henrik1743 No doubt it does better than regular a regular car with the help of some electronically managed shocks. But I test drove a C4 aircross few years ago and I wasn't impressed at all as I was driving a C5 at that time. And it's not that hard to work on hydro-pneumatic. The older the Citroën the easier. I made a xantia octopus from scrap parts for a friend of mine.
Just wished it had the hydropneumatic suspension. But I'm glad that there is some cars not wanting to be "German" and trying to be "sporty" at the same time it should be a luxury comfortable car.
I purchased an approved used DS7 and had it for 3 days before it went back for traction fault, water in the tail lights and no aircon. The dealer has had the car since & I don’t trust at all that it will come back with everything fixed. DS customer service and quality leaves a lot to be desired.
There was a DS from last year that had a strange fin between the doors spoilt the entire car but It was smaller than this one. However, the luxury and trim inside was very good, luxury feel for sure.
I saw a RUclips video of a french guy called Laurent Schmidt he has bougth a Ds7 le 1er for his mum a used one it's 2 years old now. In that video he sed the car had quality issues buttons falling off and the customer care service is not great after you buy a car from theme. But he still likes it
Apart for the odd exception I don't like French cars,but I have to say that looks to be a winner ! By the way up North we all have electric gates, they don't open but there brilliant at frying burglars!
I called DS in Manchester a few weeks ago to enquire about buying this car. Despite leaving my number TWICE and being promised someone wound phone me back received no call . So much for their claim of excellent customer service.
I think more and more people are becoming interested in these cars as opposed to the usual big brands like BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Volvo. For a lot less money, you get so much more tech, comfort and better mpg. Some of the more expensive BMW and Mercedes don't even have rear camera, front parking sensors and 360 camera. DS and even the Nissan Qashqai have 360 cameras in their mid range models. Not everyone is interested in fast cars or big brands. More people are more into comfort and value for money.
6:34 - customer service from DS in Manchester has been shocking! We ordered our new DS4 which we should receive next week. The customer service after we placed our order trying to get our electric charging put has been awful.
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I actually did an internship at DS in the Netherlands and did a roadshow for them where I drove the car all around the country for 3 weeks. I've driven 7000km in it during these 3 weeks and I can say nothing less than in being a fantastic car. Comfortable, luxurious, quick, and very good looking. Also, people react very excited when they see the car. It is like nothing else on the road.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I’m interested in knowing the colour you had for the car?
@@jasonngandu1188 I had the car in Lauquered grey.
Really like this brand, have always had a spot for Peugeot/Citroen, I hope they make their electric car soon and it's one of the best so DS stick around long enough for me to buy one, and they make one I want.
Agree could be an interesting contender. I have slipped somewhat in keeping up on motoring journalism from my days of religiously secretly buying monthly mags as a pre teen teen and young man combined with more pressing issues in life taking over. Slacked terribly with monitoring EVs. When I saw an Ionic 5 go by the first time a few months ago and could not fully see the back of it my initial thoughts were it could be a DS as it looked interesting.
I'm pretty sure that they have made EV's already.
I was shuttled in a DS9 a while back, absolutely blew me off my feet: outside looks fantastic, but the interior is just a whole different level. I'd honestly consider it over an S-class to be honest.
I had had a DS7 for 3 years till Nov '21 and I haven't got a bad word to say about it. It was the Grand Chic Opéra 2.0L HDI and it was fault-free for the period I had it. Did some travels across the whole Europe, great car for long travels, dynamic enough, while being extremely comfortable. At the beginning of my ownership, it always caused a stir - people came up, asked about it, wanted to get in and see. The thing that surprised me the most was the sheer quality of the interior trim, even after 3 years of use, the interior still looked perfect (and the leather had this nice natural smell), no plastics squeaked.
Same here 🥳
Did your Ds get driven hard.
@@martingilvray06 Well for its capabilities, I'd say yes. But then the 2.0L HDI engine was the perfect choice for the car, I think. Enough to give it some power through the city and on the German motorways. Not claiming sports cars numbers, but enough to still make it fun to drive
What the problem that put me off the DS was gearbox and drive shafts . I am running heavily modified VW caddy at present.
I've nearly had my DS 7 Prestige for a year and I absolutely love it! I'm eyeing up the DS 4 as a replacement in 2 years time
As a petrolhead, I am so happy that cars like this are still made, cars that are centered around being as luxurious and comfortable as possible given the price. I would very happily take any DS as a daily driver. Would still have my 1.8T A3 for fun driving
Yep, you can't drive hard anymore, far too many cameras, potholes and strange drivers out there now. Comfort and luxury are the two things I care about.
I absolutely agree, as a daily driver, it's luxurious and a bit special.
In an ideal world (a world that would include me having pots of cash and where people had enough to eat and heat and no wars) I would probably do the same as you and have something more sporty for the weekends.
(I'd probably buy an Aston Martin DBX, like the one that overtook Jay).
Unfortunately we don't live in that world, so bring on the DS4!
Phantastic design. Interior is the antipole to the cheap plastic cabins of T-Roc and Golf 8. Value for money and respect to the customer spending much money for a new car.
Upvote for 'phantastic'!
DS ist sehr liebevoll verarbeitet .
I'm glad to hear there are still some cars that don't pretend to be track weapons all the time. A lot of the time I just want to go from one place to another and be comfortable. Good for Citroen/DS.
I had a DS5 for a couple of years. Gorgeous looking, practical and great to drive. Felt very special. Sadly that 1.6 turbo engine wore through 4 timing chains and a turbo in that period (stretched). All the French parts where well made, it was that German designed (BMW 1 series, Mini) bits that let it down.
@@Sirius90125 but designed in collaboration with BMW whom had the greater input. The BMW and Mini versions are made at Hams Hall Plant near Birmingham, United Kingdom
@@Sirius90125 VTI/ THP engines are heavily reworked PSA TU engines by BMW. All the changes BMW made is what makes these engines absolutely rubbish.
@@Sirius90125 Where did you get that info from? It was an engine that was build by collaboration between PSA and BMW. They rush the design phase to replace the problematic Tritec engines.
I’ve got a THP in my DS3 and have noticed that running thicker oil (i.e 5w40 or 10w60 ) with short intervals (15k kms / 9500 mi ) will mostly solve the timing chain
@@dragonofyorhatotal quartz racing 10w50 on 10k kms and no problem
The French lads are making some really good and interesting stuff at the moment. I've got a Peugeot 508 and it's fantastic. The 208 and new 308 look great. DS7 is one of the more interesting SUVs (ditto 3008). This DS4 looks good too. Nice to have something different at least.
To me peugeot have the prettiest cars currently on the market from the non luxury car brands.
Yeah i love their planned obsolescence engines with internal cambelt that can easily fail at 100-120k because rubber belts are not meant to be drenched in oil. Speaks volumes of their engineering prowess.
Just get a toyota.
@@The_Noticer. but then you'd have a Toyota, the ugliest and most boring cars on the road. The only good Toyota is a BMW.
@@ristekostadinov2820 agreed ,new 308 is stunning…👍
@@smwatson1512 what an ignorant approach to cars.
Fyi bmw have never made a good sports car, and their modern cars are TERRIBLE compared to what they were doing in the 90s and early 00s.
The only good bmw in the last decade is the newest m5 cs (competition and regular m5 are so underwhelming).
Hegarty, whatcar, evo etc. all have this approach
Great review some people have no desire for a sporty car and want comfort and this is who this car is aimed at. I’m a bit fed up of every manufacturer trying to make everything sporty.
This looks like a really good car, especially with it being more centered around being comfortable and not trying to act like a sporty vehicle. What happened to the days where we had cars that just had nice rides for around town and long trips? If I wanted a sporty ride, i would by a sports car or German car.
I remember driving behind a car going just and just the speed limit, which was 80kmh. The driver whenever the speed limit would go from 80kmh to 100kmh, would take years to accelerate and they were creating a fairly big line, i was about 1 or 2 cars behind the slow driver, and suddenly behind me comes a Ds5 or a 7, cant remember which. Once the road straightened and the DS had room to go, man did it go. I looked in the rear view mirror and saw it indicate and by the time i had shifted my eyes back towards the road in front of me, the DS was about a cars length ahead of me, it was absolutely zooming. Id love me one of those DS Sedans.
car is a slug compared to the competition.. don't buy one of these for the speed
@@papa_pt Where's the competition though?
There's nothing else to touch it at the price point, quality wise.
I'm thinking about getting either one of these or a Citroën C5X (I know, Two very different cars, but the same engine and gear box)
I drove a DS7 Opera on hire in the South of France back in 2019 for a couple of weeks and it just wafted along, eating up the miles and when my co driver said "foot to the floor" I did and it never disappointed.
Never felt under powered.
So yes, there are many faster cars out there, but nowhere near as classy and comfortable as one of these.
I'm gonna lend you my Peugeot 308 GTi. Proper underrated car. And about as rare as they come.
French cars are making a return! Partly thanks to stellantis
It's PSA, Stellantis has only been very recent and we haven't seen what can be done there... wouldn't mind a hellcat 508!
Stellantis has nothing to do. It’s thanks to Tavares and his teams.
Currently my family has a DS5 2013, 2.0L diesel engine, 160HP (we bought it in 2016) and it's closing in on 9 years old. It has been working flawlessly since acquisition, no mechanical problems whatsoever; runs smoothly, still puts out serious power. We absolutely love the build, style, and for a 2013 car it looks beautiful as heck (we think it still competes with many 2020+ cars in looks). I've been so impressed and satisfied with it, it made me keep an eye out for both the DS9 and the new DS4 and I have a massive itch with the DS9
Your absolutely right James, the French have always been very good at luxury cars. I'd love a C6 or a Safrane. I actually owned a Laguna 2 Privilege for several years and though it was aimed at the MK2 Mondeo and the Vectra it certainly felt like a car from a class above. S lot of friends owned 3 series BMW at the time but the Laguna was better equipped and I'm terms of size and comfort was closer to a 5 series. Always liked the old DS4. I had a DS3 THP 155 back in 2013 which felt classy for the segment.
I’ve been a petrolhead since I first started to drive at the age of 18, now at the young age of 75 my petrolhead enthusiasm has never waned.
Having owned many cars during my lifetime I have never owned a French car, however, my eldest Son bought a Citroen C5 AirCross, 4 years later and has had not one issue with it, he has just ordered a new one. I went with him when he went to order his new car, at the dealership they also have a DS showroom!
I was HOOKED! They had a BEAUTIFUL DS9 Intense along with a DS4 Intense, OMG! How absolutely GORGEOUS, BEAUTIFUL and FANTASTIC these cars are❤️❤️
Sadly, beyond my price range but boy do they deserve to sell well, such a lovely change to see a car that is NOT the usual in your face sports style, roar, roar AND expensive German brands.
Paul 🇬🇧
Absolutely love the edgy styling on this. They obviously have some talented designers working at DS now.
I would Genuinely buy one of these new DS cars, they look SOOOOO FREAKIN GOOD. Inside and Out.
The DS 9 is my dream new car (well, one of 'em... 😅😅) so I'm glad you made this video!
Wait...double glazing, 360 cameras, front & rear parking sensors, heated AND VENTILLATED SEATS AS STANDARD? 🤯 Maan I've got to have it
"As standard" only if you buy a high spec trim..the 25k£ doesn't come with these..at least that's what they're saying on the UK website car builder tool.
I had the original citron ds3 sport and citron ds5 thp , then a DS 5, and just ordered the new Ds4. Never had a problem with any of the DS's.
The DS & Peugeot stuff (most things under the PSA group) are actually quirky and higher quality than you expect these days, I do really feel that the DS lineup does target lexus.
The most beautiful cars around the road! The design is just sublime...a mix between Japanese and European looks....those are the cars that don't let you sleep at night....
Fabulous. How refreshing to see (Citroën) this brand - DS - coming to the fore. They (Citroën) really have got their mojo back and giving DS their wings to fly free is perfect.
Loving that we are going away sporty cars to comfortable wafters. Hopefully you cover their new and older cars. Keep up the good work.
I have ordered a DS4 plug in hybrid and should be getting it in March - I am getting it from a dealership in Stirling the service I have had has been great, they have kept me up to date every step of the way
Nice review. This could make a great company car. What’s the Electric only range on the PHEV version?
For this type of car I would take refinement, comfort and waftyness at the expense of sportiness. I don’t see it as a negative at all. More cars should aim for ultimate comfort in my opinion.
I have a BMW for more spirited driving. The ride is very compromised on bumpy roads though. Horses for courses.
31 miles
From the DS website:
“34.8 - 38.5 miles
(WLTP combined cycle*)”
@@mattholland315 Work car ordering page is wrong! Same BiK rate in any case. Shame it's below that magic 40 miles.
I own a DS 7 2,0d Performance line. I changed to this from a 17 plate qashqai tekna. I wanted something a bit left field and definetly have that. I have hardly seen any others on the road and have had one fault, a rear light cluster seal failure which was replaced under warrenty within two weeks as the part had to come from France. The two big problems for me is when I first got the car and was unfamiliar to the switchgear was the ability to apply the electronic hand brake whilst driving at speed! I confused it for the window up button. The second is you cannot use a Citreon garage to carry out any warranty repairs, it has to be a approved DS garage and in my case the nearest is 53 miles away.
I hope you didn’t pay full retail price for it as it’s very overpriced for Peugeot 3008 in drag
@@bmwman1981 It is based on the 3008 but different is like saying that all the SUV's from Volskwagen are Touareg's in drag
I saw myself a DS7 with no brake/tail lights when I stopped behind them I saw they were full of water so it must be a common issue
@@VadimC1199 but at least a vw will be reliable unlike any psa product as the French have always be known to produce vehicles of high quality not
@@bmwman1981 Had a c class W204 sold it, got a DS5h, sold that now i have an A6 C7.5.
From all my card the DS was the most reliable.
Don't really know what is with this unreliable BS, the 1.5 dci engine from renault is bulletproof the 1.6 and 2.0 hdi engines are good as well.
All car makers fuck up VW had horrible problems with TSi engines and DSG transmissions
BMW had horrible problems with their diesel engines form 2010 to 2015. And Xdrive systems(transfer case to be precise).
There is no saint in reliability(maybe lexus).
I like PSA for one and the direction they are going they bought Opel and made it profitable after 15 years of financial problems unde GM, and now the merger with Fiat gives me hope they will revive brands like Lancia who don't deserve their fate.
Been seeing these cars here in Ethiopia the past few months. They are such a delight to look at. They look like jewelry, in the shape of a car. They are also priced quite well with their competition.
recently after my trip to France, I want one. However, sadly I live in the USA. I think it’s going to be perfect for the American market and to be honest they’re strategy works perfectly for Americans. Hope they can be the first French brand to be successful over here.
Great review. The DS9 seems to go round the track well so maybe a performance version of the DS 4 will come later. Could certainly make me think of changing.
have been waiting for reviews of this...seems like its getting so many things right and avoiding the trap of so many heading off to sporty cars...would be nice to see if they can get some of that dynamic a little better sorted but this will work, as is, for the majority of (potential) customers
I had ds7, my wife had a ds3. Never invited to any events. Great cars, the downside is the number of dealers. I live in Wakefield so either Manchester or York.
I have a yellow and black DS3 and love to drive it! It's turbocharged, too...😊🙋♀️🏴
Superb looking car. Reminds me of a Bertone show car. I’m on my second A3…. Very happy but now looking at a future replacement, and this has my attention.
My next Rivoli, with grey interior, so confortable car ! So confortable.
Great looking car I’m going to treat myself to the new Peugeot 308 it looks amazing 🤩
As a bored German car customer I would love to try a DS .Until they offer a proper no quibble 7 year warranty with a guaranteed identical curtsy car I doubt few will take the risk.
I've seen a couple of DS 7s, and my thoughts? They look a bit luxury and upmarket, and they stand out because relatively few people buy them. I mean, I know they derive from a Citroen, and a lot of people will also know this and be put off "because they are French" and "German cars are reliable and desirable". I have to say though, what Stellantis are doing with a lot of their brands is quite commendable though. Peugeots are looking the best they have for years, and as are Vauxhalls. When you look at an average car and think "that actually looks really good", and you don't get the same vibe looking at a premium German brand, who thrive on giving people "a bit of the same, just tweaked a bit to keep sufficiently fresh". Mind you, there is BMW's latest styling, which on the 4-series I quite like, but on their SUVs looks awkward.
For sure looks like what a concept car would be shown off as 10 years ago. Neat stuff.
Had a Q7 and when I entered a Ds5 I was amazed of the quality of the materials. My audi looked like dacia after that. My next car will be ds7 for sure
To me it looks very similar to a lexus, if not better. Really nice to see more options in the market
I’ve owned a c6 CX DS21 and 2 cv the older cars were wonderful . The c6 was delicate and needed continual work . It was the lat Citroen I have owned I doubt I will ever go back
I like the new DS brand. I look forward to what's in store for the future. Btw, there's nothing wrong with the position of the steering wheel. 😉🇺🇸
The other day I saw a brand new DS7 as I was driving and I noticed his brake lights weren't working only to realise when I stopped at traffic light that they were full of water to me that shows they still have some ways to go
French luxury quirky design has returned back and looks great on the new DS4
I have just ordered an e tense 225 Performance Line here in Denmark,I can't wait :)
Your description of a DBX driver had me rolling on the floor 😂
NICE LOOKING CARS, THEY DEFINITELY NEED MORE POWERFUL ENGINES AS OPTIONS THOUGH!!🤔
I have, and always will have, an affinity for the brand having owned a 2012 DS5 for three years. Easily the most unique car I've ever driven. Not a single issue with it, aside from one minor electronic gremlin that was quickly resolved by the dealer. After-sales at the time was very good too. When Citroen decided to leave South Africa in late 2016 (and return three years later), I thought I was being smart by trading in for a 2017 Audi A4 - I was wrong and still miss my DS5.
That is one pretty car, if it rides as well as it looks, I would look seriously at it next time I change.
Would like to see you review the DS5 from about 2012 onwards. It's now quite "cheap" and interior was beautiful backat the time with the optional seats in tan.
pleeeeease drive a 60’s or 70’s alfa GT 105 series this year! After lusting after an old porsche restomod but seeing them all skyrocket in value, i think the base for an alfaholics gta-r 290 is still amazing value!! Everybody needs to know about them!
Citroën has always been for comfort and Peugeot for involving or sporty driving experience. Same or very closely related chassis but very different tunings. So you should really try the equivalent Peugeot if that is what you like. I really like my wife's 308 (main reason why I bought it) and it is a non GTI Allure model so not even a faster one ... and my daily is a 911 and I own classic V8 Ferraris too so I am really into feel and handling and track days to stretch the cars wheels. Despite that, chucking around the little 308 is a fun and pleasurable experience, good steering feel for a modern car (that is not a Porsche) and very good handling and it is so light (1.2t) that even with 130bhp it isn't sluggish at all and fast enough for the road.
It obviously depends on the Generation 308: 308 I (2007-2014), 308 II (2013-2021) and now 308 III (2021-today)
I live in Germany and work in a car dealership where the majority of ppl drive the regular Polarsilver old Mercedes A- & B-Classes with black cloth seats and the regular Opel (or in some cases Vauxhall) Meriva and Corsa with the usual dark gray/grey seats..
I love it when I see cars with different colored seats or even brown, gray or white sterring wheels. And thats what I love about Peugeot and the new DS models they offered that in the past or in case of DS still do. The gearbox if it's not the 6-speed manual is not really as good as I wish it would be but still ok definitely fine I drove a 207cc a few weeks ago and man that car handeled good, just 120hp but it cornered well and the steering is responsive I liked the car and don't know why Peugeot is considered a "woman's" brand.
@@chriskonte1909 I was talking of a 308 II. And Peugeot is not a woman's car, I learnt how to drive in a 205 GTD and have fond memories of this car. The 308II is my wife's car and the family car because we need one and she likes having a practical car. I like 2-seater sports cars and she doesn't like them ... Wouldn't drive one and reluctantly agrees to be a passenger. But I drive the 308 often as I am the official family driver and would rather not drive in general.
Considered one of these a few years back as a second car and went for an astra k 1.4t which has 150bhp and a sport button that believe it or not actually makes it feel livlier. Im generally sceptical about said button in shoppers but I agree sometimes its nice to just enjoy a regular car. My main cars nothing exotic and I hired a new focus 1.0 3cyl ecoboost the other weekend to go Edinburgh from Canterbury. Was a good blast even 3 up after Newcastle when the A1 became semi interesting. Runs rings round the astra for handling even if its down on power. Was a 125bhp one with regular 205 high profiled teeny wheels. Miss it now.
@@bensmithkent22 I think the sport button is only on the highest spec and with the automatic gearbox but unsure. We don't have a sport button on our car which is a manual.
I 'notice' DS periodically and keep meaning to look into them, again quite recently. Nice timing. Like the interior and exterior.
Very interesting car! Just looks and, from everything I heard, feels different. Inside you get that "french chic"-feel, but in a good way, the exterior I like a lot too. You've got a point though that it comes across a little Japanese, Toyota and Lexus also have this busy style with lots of creases. Also, I had this feeling it's a car not too much unlike the Infiniti Q30. Anyway, a little more variety in the cars we see everyday is always most welcome and the DS 4 just appeals to me. Stellantis does a better job than VAG with creating a specific look and feel for their many brands. If they can do this with DS, imagine what they could do with Lancia and Alfa Romeo ...
When DS finally bring their EV to market, they can take my money! Quality cars.
It looks a beautiful design 😍
My Ds7 has been amazing I’m about to look at the Ds4 end of April and hopefully will love it
I drive the mk 1 DS4 and absolutely love it. Really hope to get a new DS4 in the future. ❤️
My brother just buy a used Citroen DS5 Hybrid4 and that car is amazing inside and outside its trully gorgius.And drive very good also.
I do enjoy cooled seats, my 2007 Lexus IS had them and I’ve had them in cars since
The car looks good, maybe a bit over-styled. I’m surprised a car with such huge wheels and so little sidewall doesn’t have miserable ride quality
coz citroen
If the rubber side wall is tall, it won't have a poor ride quality. Usually the ride quality goes down when you go for larger wheels because you get less rubber and cushioning. The overall wheel size (metal + rubber) has to stay the same, therefore more metal less rubber.
Actually, larger overall wheels tend to fare better with small path holes - there is less of a drop inside the path hole.
Despite the 20” wheels the tyre profile is still not that low at “40” section…
Love the little details on the exterior design
This is a great looking car! The only small gripe for me is the odd bit of switch gear that I’ve seen in Citroens of old, for example the indicator stalk (apart from the chrome ring) that my fathers 2017 Citroen dispatch van has got.
I had a 2012 DS3 THP a few years ago as i wanted something different to the Fiesta ST. Only owned the car for a year before having to get rid due to awful reliabilty. I hope they've made that 1.6 petrol engine a bit more reliable. Ended up getting an ST in the end and loved it, but if the DS3 was more reliable i reakon i would of kept it as it was great fun to drive when running.
I mean you got the THP engine which is an unreliable crap engine from bmw and mini
This is a shame I really fancy one of these ☝️
Yeah the THP engines are still crap if they survived to this day but man they do go and have that nice "zoom zoom" sound even at low RPM. The current generation of 1.6l engines is way better as soon as these engines hit EURO 6 emissions they got rid of all the MINI/BMW comnponents as far as I know.
I owned two DS3's a THP 150, then 3 years later a THP155 - both good fun cars to own and never had a single issue, for which I am grateful :)
If I go for one (DS3 155) I’m going to try to buy the most recent year I can with a good service history and perhaps even a tensioner replacement. Still not sure about the whole thing though :/
One thing i don't like about French cars is a lot of interior parts like radio controls and Colum stalks are from cars 20 years ago, glad to see DS is different.
It would be quite temptation if this brand makes some of last hurrah stylish MPV...with this luxury&comfy set up...I would love to have such spaceous transporteur....
Due to people in the UK liking their badges this car will probably be a used car bargain in a few years.
Forget about the Germans they've been boring and plain for several years now. The DS4 looks absolutely amazing inside and the exterior aswell. Flair level max. I don't think I would like the ride character completely though... Need to try it but from different videos I've seen it doesn't sound so fun. Okey it does the comfy gliding around thing very good it seems, but driving for me is also about having fun and getting a smile on your face from time to time. Cupra Formentor has almost the same level of style but I think it's a lot nicer to drive. Will be interesting to try the DS4 and compare overall package.
Booking a test drive at the moment and you will be waiting a while, like the actual cars being purchased the demonstrator cars won't be available until March at the earliest, so those people like myself who have ordered the DS 4 La Premiere won't get an opertunity to drive a DS 4 until the production cars are delivered which is a real shame.
Wasn't even aware DS were an exclusive brand until this video, they should test the waters in the NA market
Still superb
Who wants to be all things to all people- not me- they’ve obviously listened to their customers
I wish they did a new XM
In a car like this, I would not care about the sporting factor or in its case, the lack of it. I would live without it, happily. Great review of what seems to be a very promising car (brand).
Your shirts are like the summer sun👍 , warm and playful.
If your tall forget it, tried to get in the car , couldn’t get through doorway. ( 6ft 5ins)
I have a DS7 performance line, brilliant car
A DS without hydro-pneumatic suspension ain't a real DS. No doubt the car performs well in its class but I miss the original Citroën suspension.
I tried the normal new c4 with the hydro cushions and man driving on cobblestone was like nothing. You should try it! It's not like a Xm but it was really comfy for the price. And less of a reliability nightmare
@@henrik1743 No doubt it does better than regular a regular car with the help of some electronically managed shocks. But I test drove a C4 aircross few years ago and I wasn't impressed at all as I was driving a C5 at that time.
And it's not that hard to work on hydro-pneumatic. The older the Citroën the easier. I made a xantia octopus from scrap parts for a friend of mine.
When I first saw this.... I thought it was a Toyota Rav4 2022! It looks nice, but it's getting difficult to tell one car from another.
They all have a mix of agressive and bland look
Wow that thing looks super cool.
Just wished it had the hydropneumatic suspension.
But I'm glad that there is some cars not wanting to be "German" and trying to be "sporty" at the same time it should be a luxury comfortable car.
I purchased an approved used DS7 and had it for 3 days before it went back for traction fault, water in the tail lights and no aircon. The dealer has had the car since & I don’t trust at all that it will come back with everything fixed. DS customer service and quality leaves a lot to be desired.
There was a DS from last year that had a strange fin between the doors spoilt the entire car but It was smaller than this one. However, the luxury and trim inside was very good, luxury feel for sure.
You're thinking of the DS3 crossback.
I saw a RUclips video of a french guy called Laurent Schmidt he has bougth a Ds7 le 1er for his mum a used one it's 2 years old now. In that video he sed the car had quality issues buttons falling off and the customer care service is not great after you buy a car from theme. But he still likes it
Citroen is pronounced see-trow-en not sit-ron, the latter in French is a lemon, not a car brand.
So then the latter describes the vehicles reliability
See hhh iii tttt
Wish it was here in the States, I'd love one.
Looks fantastic but is allowing journalists / RUclipsrs to drive the car before the software and heating have been finished a sensible ploy?
got a 17 plate ds 4 crossback great quirky car similar price to a focus looks a million dollar bunt orange
Has a whiff of Aston Martin look to me. Nice 😊
Im not a fan of SUVs or crossovers but this one seems nice
Pretty car not sold in USA yet seems pretty cool for real world cuv use in great style and luxury
13:43 Small family car? That thing is gigantic.
My local area. Did you pop into Egham Ferrari while you was there ? Built a few nice houses on the Wentworth estate too 😎😎👍🏻
Meanwhile in America we got big Altima energy instead. Would love to see Renault and Citroen come stateside
Apart for the odd exception I don't like French cars,but I have to say that looks to be a winner ! By the way up North we all have electric gates, they don't open but there brilliant at frying burglars!
I called DS in Manchester a few weeks ago to enquire about buying this car. Despite leaving my number TWICE and being promised someone wound phone me back received no call . So much for their claim of excellent customer service.
I think more and more people are becoming interested in these cars as opposed to the usual big brands like BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Volvo. For a lot less money, you get so much more tech, comfort and better mpg. Some of the more expensive BMW and Mercedes don't even have rear camera, front parking sensors and 360 camera. DS and even the Nissan Qashqai have 360 cameras in their mid range models. Not everyone is interested in fast cars or big brands. More people are more into comfort and value for money.
6:34 - customer service from DS in Manchester has been shocking! We ordered our new DS4 which we should receive next week. The customer service after we placed our order trying to get our electric charging put has been awful.
Interior looks very nice
Maybe the DS company should team up a bit with McLaren to also make the DS4 also clever around the bends? :)
So this or a KIA EV6? DS had a stand at Carfest and they really are cool looking, and very nice inside