Patreon Special: How a Street Thug Killed a God
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2017
- When "That Guy" is supposed to be the hero, it takes a villain to set things right. Special thanks to /u/ItsTheJoker on Reddit for transcribing this to be easily readable.
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"That's how a single thug defeated a world's Superman, Batman, and Martian Man Hunter. I've refused to play against him in any form to this day."
You don't say.
@@justinhamilton9347 Idk Olympians were pretty Self serving.
@@justinhamilton9347 fits about as well as justice lord.
@@justinhamilton9347, it actually fits really well given how selfish the olympians are, such as how Zues tried to screw anything that moved. Athena turned a woman into a spider. The gods created entire wars for their own self enjoyment.
@Dewani90 The devil wants to corrupt people; Solomon chose to expose corruption that was already extant.
@@jamesadamsfl The devil is merely a warden, stuck with his station by his own rebellion. People damn themselves to his prison and punishment. Yahweh has done much more in the way of tempting, condemning, and killing man.
The story of how a stealthy henchman ended up becoming the cities only true hero. Solomon the Unperson.
I want a Comic of this I truly truly do. :3 I would so buy it.
Except he was still a criminal who had probley prayed on people all his life whether that be through staging heists, robbing people, and any number of other things. Meaning just cause you do one good deed such as showing a hero to be in reality a villain who is doing more harm then good doesn't excuse your own villainy in the slightest. So no he wasn't a hero, just someone that wanted to prove a point as a way to validate himself even if that meant dying horribly at the hands of a superhuman psychopath.
'He who watched the watchmen.'
@@Doomseer Don't know enough of the character background to say, but I'm leaning towards the idea that the heroes were so bad that Solomon found the light. It doesn't erase his past villainy, but it's still a good deed and self-sacrifice worth celebrating. Had he survived, I could see him being a villain who reformed himself into a hero.
In any case, he was in a better place than the so-called heroes.
He was kinda a anti hero towards the end and I actually bet he never set any explosives only the webcams to show the true villains because the toxins where just sprite with green food coloring
Gotta admit the fact that he interrupted the DM to tell him to shut up tells me how bad this player has gotten
The fact that the DM kept letting him get away with the bullshit shows a bad DM as well, js
@@cammo353 Well maybe the GM was just a pushover, you can't be perfect, he's clearly not the worst out of the lot, and in the end he did take action through storyline, instead of a shitty deus ex machina. So I'll have to disagree with you on some level there.
Clearly just wanted to relish killing, in his mind, his "arch nemesis."
I've never played tabletop games, though I love hearing good stories from them. I don't know how practical it is, but letting things play out with a nudge at the right time seems like the best possible option. If the goal is to tell a story, may as well turn a lousy situation into something memorable.
Thisbis what I like to call a toxic roleplayer, it is someone who becomes to powerful in a game and then becomes a giant cocky dick
That moment when a thug is more of a hero than all of the heroes combined...
Captain Awesome and died as one too, no life beside his own was in danger
Like joker in the white knight kinda.
sulamen may not be the hero we wanted but hes the one we deserve
Anti-hero as fuck
@@Ike_of_pyke a
"When people see a guy flying around beating up bad guys, they don't care about the man. They care about the image. They care about the hero. If I killed Olympian, he'd die a hero. He'd be the greatest martyr this city has ever seen. That's why, when I had the chance, I didn't kill the man. I killed the hero."
10/10
Screw all the other epic villain quotes, this is just pure gold.
Although, you could argue this guy's not even a villain.
Really, it could be used by anyone attacking a "hero" to this extent, the only thing making the user a villain was if the "hero" actually was one. Since Olympian was most decidedly NOT...
@@thelegend8570 yeah he switched from a villain character to a antihero character.
That was surprisingly deep dude
@@diablo.the.cheater Not too sure about that. It feels like he evolved more into an anti-villain character type, someone who had a noble goal(in this case, reveal how evil their heroes really are)... but he didn't really do it in a way someone could say a hero would do. At the end of the day, Solomon himself wasn't really a good person either... he just showed, like an anti-villain, that even he had standards.
_Solomon: patron saint of revenge, patience & Justice._
From now on, Solomon is going to be in every pantheon in every game I will ever DM for as long as I can.
Doing the same! I love this story since It pointed out the reason why I HATE superheroes in general.
Peace to that brother. Down with the super powered bastards that call themselves "heroes"! For Solomon!
Well he wasnt exactly a hero but surely better than the supposed heros. I just laugh at thinking about batman stealing robbers wallets and then getting gunned down at wayne manor.
After this, I might do the same thing.
shame nobody will ever roll high enough to be able to spot him...
This is an amazing deconstruction of superhero morality. It's like an inversal Megamind.
this was amazing and I agree
Read the Boys.
Death Watch Trooper Great comic.
I was thinking of megamind too!
If you're into this stuff, read Worm. This story literally reads like a chapter in Worm
I like how he either got the people to fight the heroes, or forced the heroes to destroy themselves. He never actually put the innocents in danger. He let the "heroes'" own actions destroy them. He even took Adept to the hospital.
Hell. Herr Doktor is even trying to fix Adept.
Solomon actually managed to pull off a Xanatos Gambit. That’s amazing. No matter what happened, from the moment he set his plan in motion, he had already won.
More a Batman Gambit, really, he expected the "hero" to act a certain way, and he did.
One other possibility-if the player playing Olympian had mustered up the courage to drink the 'toxin', or the wisdom to realize Solomon, the 'villain', never had any intention of hurting him or innocent bystanders...his character would have acquired a genuine measure of heroism and self-awareness. And then Solomon would have knocked Olympian (and his player ) off his path of selfish solphism.
Coleman Gailloreto yes, but there are two reasons why this wouldn’t be a problem:
1) Solomon (and apparently his player too) knew how much of a shithead Olympian really was, and also knew that not only would Olympian be stupid enough not to check if it was poison, but also risk the city just to beat him up.
2) No matter what, it was clearly established that Olympian was going to beat Solomon to a pulp. Those cameras wouldn’t have stopped rolling, and the entire city would have seen what a monster Olympian really was. Beating up a bad guy who had already been defeated, just for the heck of it. They also still would have seen that he would sacrifice the city just to kill someone, due to the deadswitch in the pressure plate.
To have the people still believe in him, Olympian had to do two things: not kill Solomon, and drink the poison; Olympian did neither.
Furthermore, Solomon probably had an escape plan set in case Olympian did drink the poison, as he would still have the tripwire in place. If Olympian didn’t kill him, he would have slyly run away and escape.
And even if he did, would that really have been what Solomon’s player would have wanted? The reason Solomon’s player did this was justice of Olympian’s misdeeds, not simply revenge.
The true Xanatos Gambit was that either a hero would have won, or a villain would have lost.
Solomon was already broadcasting Olympian’s past misdoings just like he’d done to Protocol, so even if Olympian had learned his lesson and drank the lemonade, Olympian would have still faced justice for what he did, if not simply Be hated by the people.
Okay, so I’ve been looking into this, and at a technical standpoint, Solomon could have technically had the chance to escape if Olympian had drank the lemonade, but that would have resulted in him temporarily being defeated, so it could be considered if a loss. Therefore, a better summary would possibly be a Batman Gambit; the plot succeeded solely because he knew exactly what the other person would do in the given situation.
Solomon the Unknowable. I'd like to think that there would be a statue where Olympian used to be. The statue would have no face, and only these words on a plaque: Solomon The Unknowable, the nobody that killed a god.
Mr. Hexalia
"nobody can kill a god"
"here's a nobody, have at it"
Perfect
The plot seems so simple, but it’s the execution that does it. Use the hero’s own powers against them, show the public what they haven’t seen, and then give the hero a choice: Be yourself, or be a hero. The world is watching.
Also, that final line by Solomon was the greatest thing I’ve ever heard.
I just realized, there's a poetic symmetry in how he does it with their own techniques and powers.
Protocol: Private server from his own hideout
Adept: Force him to adapt into a vegetative state
Olympian: Reveal he's not the symbol he thinks he is
Solomen and his player are freakin terrifying, and I respect them infinitely for it
The scary thing is all he had was a plan and some tech to take down a godlike being and he won.
@@xandertheupriser8600 All he even had was cameras
He's truly a terrifing enemy. 🤤
@@zachary5833 Cameras, an unhooked pressure plate, a random button, and some lemonade. The recipe to kill an unjust god.
And I feel humbled that my dm has compared me to Solomon.
holy shit somebody needs to animate this
omni-king zeno Animated,Live Action, Book, Comic, goddamn sock puppets whatever it takes this needs to get a visual adaptation.
Mr. P. Shark I SECOND THE SOCK PUPPET IDEAS!
I like the comic idea, particularly a sort of animated comic. Not sure what that style would be called. I know there's a bunch of examples of it though... Kinda looks more like a refined storyboard than actually animated... And I'm struggling to think of those examples... Hmph
I agree with the sock puppets!
+De Demon Its called a kinetic novel.
Best part is Salomon likely had enough stealth to set-up the explosives around metropolis anyway.
For Olympian, it was less of an attempt on his life, and more of a test of virtue. This is quite brilliant on Solomon's part.
honestly, it was a bit of a Xanatos Gambit, Olympian drinks the "poison" he still has to deal with a GIGANTIC public relations crisis that he probably can't overcome after everything gets revealed, and belief in him is dead. He doesn't, he's revealed to be a coward, and kills the peoples belief in him, he goes for a kill, he reveals he doesn't care about the people and is a murderer, and he kills the peoples belief in him
I think the most bueatiful part is that Solomon had not a single power. He was just an ubertalented, calculating thug.
Some hero, killing an unarmed defenseless man, who technically didn't kill anyone and was bluffing the entire time. Well Played Player of Solomon, you are one hell of a role player. If i ever run a game online again you are welcome at my table as a player.
But the obvious answer is to kill Solomon in that position. If you believe the threat to be real, the only answer is to deal with the threat. The threat was directed at the city too, and there was no real reason to believe that Solomon wouldn't just destroy the city after getting a powerful threat out of the way.
This is like those stupid situations where a criminal has a hostage and they say that if you don't drop your gun, they'll kill the hostage. You then become another hostage, good job. All that going along with their demands does is increase their power.
except for the fact if he killed Solomon he would have fully expected to have the city go with him. drinking the poison was the only way to atleast give the city a chance to survive at all
@@greenelephant...ofdoom5527 The issue here was that Olympian didn't even try to find another way out, or see if any of it was a bluff, he was determined to murder a man, he didn't go in with the mindset of a hero, and as soon as he drank the "toxin" the ruse would have been up immediately considering it was just lemonade. Besides there was nothing indicating that it would have been an instant kill, he STILL would have had time to stop Solomon even if it was real.
Besides as the player himself said, he wasn't trying to kill Olympian, he was trying to kill everyone else's belief in Olympian. No matter how that played out, the second Olympian refused to drink, Solomon won.
Edit: Also while yes, going along with the demands of the criminal in the scenario you presented has that effect, the problem is that people don't go along with it to get the guy to stop, they go along with it to buy time to figure out a solution. So the same scenario plays out with literally the only difference being the exact number of hostages the guy has. That is literally the *only* difference, which doesn't matter in the slightest. Better the guy have two hostages in this scenario if it means you have a bit more time to figure out how to win, than a single corpse.
@@Rebellions I mean yes he should have tried checking out the situation better, but what if the acid was strong enough to kill him pretty much instantly? I mean if I watched the exchange, sure I wouldn't think the guy was some morally perfect hero, but if I saw him drink the acid I'd think him a moron. A nice, well-meaning moron for sure, but still a moron.
Now if he had figured out it was lemonade and called the guys bluff, that would have been most impressive. My comment was based on the assumption that Olympian "knew" that the acid could potentially kill him near instantly and "knew" that the villain could blow up the city with the click of a button. In such a situation, I'd say the right call is to try to kill the guy before he can press the button. If you succeed, everyone (except him) lives, if you fail, he and the city die. If he chose to drink the "acid" and die, maybe the villain wouldn't destroy the city (but they'd still be at his mercy), but he could just as easily destroy the city right after and the only one left alive is the villain.
Maybe if the hero was in a room with a dial and the options "save city" and "save self" and he picked "save self," he would be shown as wrong (though even in that situation the villain could proceed to blow up the city).
@@greenelephant...ofdoom5527 My guy, you forget the part where solomon bluffed about the pressure plate? Ya know, the thing that, if he gets moved from, the mechanism activates?
This would make one hell of a movie plot. Each defeat of the heroes would be amazing to see. A real shame it wouldn't happen, I just sat for 22 minutes completely enamored by a story with no visuals. Hey wait that sounds like a book. Someone make this a full book so that they can make a movie adaptation.
I love how all the "heros" got finished in the most poetic ways. The rich billionaire playboy got caught stealing off corpses and shot down by the police and the evolution man evolved into having the brain power of amoeba and the unkillable guy ended up locked away forever probably wanting to die.
And that's how you play a villain on their way to anti-hero
Read The Boys. Comic about superheroes that abuse their power and do the most fucked up things ever since no one can stop them.
i don't need a book, and i'm an ameatur film maker, if i get into contact with the original writer, i'm going to ask him if i can make it into a movie.
They made "The Boys" into a TV series on Amazon Video. Also, this was written so well that my mind automatically gave me the visuals.
Olympian's comment at ~6:00 really reminded me of that stand-off between Jotaro and Kakyoin.
"The loser is the evil one"
“History is written by the victors,” -Winston Churchill
the biggest twist was that their was no toxin IT WAS LEMONADE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA
OmegaUltimateBurning TimespaceOverlordOfHyperdust Hahaha
OmegaUltimateBurning TimespaceOverlordOfHyperdust Not even _pink_ lemonade.
@@obsidironpumicia4074 seriously its so obvious
WITH NO SUGAR!!!
Olympian: "Damn you and your lemonade!"
Solomon had no pants? None were described
That's how he was so stealthy.
PK Blizzard
“What did his pants look like?”
“No”
“Damn it, not again”
hes got more of a dick out look
Big dick energy like that needs no pants.
Just shirtcocking it.
You either die a hero or live long enough to be a villain
Moist ? That's EXACTLY what happened here.
Or become a hero? Solomon was a villain at first!
sooo... You either die a villain or live long enough to be a hero?
I'm talking about olympian
i was replying to shadow ling.
The story of a ghost in the machine killing a god. Truly inspiring.
This is what I like most about Tabletop RPG's, the potential for amazing stories.
just a ghost, sans machine.
@Dewani90I think he's referring to solomon being near invisible in "the machine" he means society
Agreed with everything, here's your 500th like.
Solomon’s stealthy and smart enough to make you wonder if he even existed.
This story is amazing. Instead of breaking down a game due to the toxic nature of the "heros" the player controlling Solomon turned this toxicity against the supposedly good players.
Whoever Solomon was, that person was truly a hero not in-game but IRL.
It takes a lot to not stand up and stop a game when other players get as toxic as the "heros" got. Doctor was an amazingly tolerant player who didn't deserve what he put up with and leaving the game would've been more than justified.
I'm glad he didn't.
I'm glad he had Solomon.
And most of all I'm glad the player who played Solomon exists.
His actions are an inspiration to others who might be driven to fight back against a bully when they should temper their anger with patience so they may reveal the truth about their enemies to the world.
That way they may be seen for the monsters they truly are, not the "heros" they pretend to be.
Honestly I don't know why anyone would want to stop such a game it would be boring without such players without these so called "toxic" players you call them there wouldn't be such grand stories like these having a "toxic" player can result in some amazing stories that really catch the ear unlike your average stories its the players that bring the story to life after all and if you excluded these flavorable players you would just have an average story in the end.
@@bloodling3885 Here's the thing.
These people are very much toxic players. You can have grand and awesome stories without a player being toxic.
When the player for Olympian was asked to stop, a normal person would have put the other PC down, not murder the PC.
@@bloodling3885 The thing is, rps aren't meant to tell a grand story in the end. That's what books, movies, plays etc are for. RPs are meant to be enjoyed as much as possible by the players and gm. Toxic players lower enjoyment for other players
You dont need toxic players if the characters slip into a darker place that can be cool aslong as the players are still all cool with eachother
Lol, calm your tits. The heroes were just a bunch of shit roleplayers, it's not that hard to deal with those people. And seriously? "Toxic"? How sad...
You know, it's kind of a shame actually, cause Olympian seems to be an extremely interesting villian. What really disturbs me though is that I don't think that player saw him as one.
"As long as I beat the 'bad guys' then I'm the good guy."
The very best kind of villain
That's what one villain I reuse literally is. He considers himself a True God, amasses an entire nation, and goes to wipe out everything he considers evil with the army, no matter how small. Mass genocide to the nth degree.
He's basically homelander
The "Doktor" should have taken the opertunity to use his robotic inventions to help protect the city all for the low low price of constructing a monument to the man who saved the city Solomon.
That would've made the story even more satisfying. The story itself is already amazing but if that was the ending, it'd reach ultra legend level
Solomon deserves a monument
Herr Doktor is of the mind of an absolute sociopathic - doing what he wants because that is his goal. No matter the drive & srife - nor the insanity, he will accomplish his goal - no matter if it turns him into the monsters or peasants he fought... It will bring him to their heels, knees, and realisation - to quote Aesop " becareful which monsters you fight, lest you becometh."
Hugh Mungus I mean they never mentioned if Doktor or Solomon killed anyone
No
No statue
Solomon was never a man
He was never there
He was the silent reckoning and he was the invisible righteousness
To build him a statue would give him a face
But you can't give a face to justice, and that is what he was in essence
He erased his own identity from the world, solely committed to giving up his life for his purpose
To destroy a monster, so that a true hero could take its place
How many levels of ninja skills do you think solomon had to hide so well?
all of them
Infinite amounts
43. Any hero whom isn't a hard counter to stealth type characters would never find you no mater how low you roll and how high they roll.
Quinton Craig What about avoiding a hard counter to stealth, as it seems Protocol could have been one?
80, it's the highest you can go without transcending ridiculousness, and even then it's bullshit.
As for your hard counter, it would become a 1 in 20 chance like normal, no modifiers for either party.
('cept for advantage, but that didn't mater by the time you got that far)
P.S. Hard Lock 100 Max, no bonus past +80 to rolls, and any roll ability that doesn't change the number.
6:10 "That's how heroes work. As long as the bad guy is defeated, he's the hero."
So basically Olympian's answer was, "Might makes right." Doesn't sound like he's put much thought into what makes a hero.
@Deathcoldan
If by "cleaning the streets" you mean going around beating up "bad" guys, then many gangsters are heroes too. As thugs, they go around beating up "bad" guys in their territory.
You can't end a paragon by killing them. Even if you could manage it in the first place, killing them is exactly what you shouldn't do. Killing them just gives them what they want. In death, they stay a hero, they remain a paragon forever.
You kill a paragon by showing people the truth. Show them as the flawed, squishy, selfish mortal they really are.
Andrew Kaser Solomon is that you?
People lose faith when they see god bleed. This isn't to say you are wrong but to nod at the idea that you show the world their 'Paragon' is no different than the criminal they face, in fact that they are worse than the villains as at least with villains, you know where you stand.
What's a God to a nonbeliever, indeed.
Seriously though, those guys got taken down a notch, or several.
they got taken down ALL of the notches.
The notch counter got obliterated by how fast it went down.
I dont know the way they played it ended up in this amazing story so im not even mad. They could make a grim "superhero" movie about this.
"What's a God to a nonbeliever, indeed."
Ummm... a God... a God who could bend the nonbeliever over an adamant table and make them eat vain platitudes and rhetoric like that as they slaughter even the very memory of said nonbeliever.
VunderGuy
*short sighted lusted god vs the best kind of foresight.
i made an olimpian charater once but i made him a cartoon by cartoon standards to the point where it became really funny like after breaking up the hiest he would place each crimminal in the yard of the prision and just said something like all in a days work with no thought about due process he came to his end when a villen had him consume a vial of suger wich killed him since he was a diabetic
The Fitness-Fool fucking best weakness of all time.
The Fitness-Fool Lmao
Was this in D&D, or..?
so you made captain diabeetus, and someone actually used that to their advantage.
Ohh my fucking god lmao
"But that's the thing. *cough* *cough* You're not a hero anymore"
God, I actually needed a moment after I finished this. This was legitimately beautiful. I feel so satisfied having listened to and read this. Thank you.
Mr. P. Shark yep
Do you know what I think would have been the icing on the cake? If Doktor, after seeing what had happened, decided to turn himself in. The police would had let him go, saying "how could we give a life sentence to someone who had already died?"
Cheese Wizard that would have been very true
To be fair, he survived being killed.
HalfTangible And it was never said that they killed anyone, the “Hero’s” on the other hand...
Yeah, but he's still done bad things, and I can kinda understand them wanting to uphold the justice system. 40 years low security prison, I think I heard. Probably not so bad.
@@submarineinthesky8946 That's what they gave to Adept... the guy who is practically braindead.
This man out here playing 5D Chinese Checkers
6d chess
.....so he played a good guy version of the joker?
LAZYNeku wasn't his name jester in the movie he was in
LAZYNeku More along the lines of the best parts of the Punisher and John Constantine.
look up White Knight. it's about the joker and Batman and such.
Technically yeah, the methodology was similar to the Jokers.
Am I the only one drawing similarities to Lex Luther?
Jesus this needs to be a mini series.
Agreed.
Lava Comic-Geek SOMEONE MAKE A PETITION!!!!
Go read the Boys, its basically about the same thing
dark multiverse?
This is like if Hero Killer Stain had the mind of the Joker
Only if the heroes themselves are as bad as the villains.
Everyone says Joker but I’m thinking Arcade or maybe Rorschach/The Question.
Nah, the joker is a complete nihilist, he doesn't believe in anything beyond mindless destruction and anarchy. This is more like if Stain had the mind of Batman, since he never directly attempted to kill any of the players.
This was the first ever TTRPG story I have ever came across. I then proceeded to watch every story on this channel and then to satisfy my cravings for more of these stories I moved on to other dnd channels then Critical roll and started watching all of them regularly. I then got a job as a driver for dominoes and started listening during my deliveries. A few months later one of my friends invited me to join a game he was running. I played a warforged fighter named Quassus whose dex was in the negatives and was responsible for multiple character deaths (himself included) then when my friend couldn't DM for the night I took over and ran one shots. Eventually I took the mantle of full time DM. Now its come full circle as I went to my local game store and buried in the bottom corner of the shelf of almost exclusively dnd, pathfinder, call of cthulu and warhammer. Were the rulebooks for Mutants and Masterminds. I am now running my own game of M&M
thank you Cloak and Dagger/Tale forge for starting me on this journey
Seems like a movie.
President of Whiteistan we need this to be a movie. Honestly I'm confident it would sell well. In the trailer show no signs of them being bad and then when they go to the theater and see this. I honestly think that this would become a huge hit.
Dude, I should make a campaign like this... and then a movie about this one
It IS a movie.
(I don't remember the name, but it was a batman movie, "The White Knight" maybe?)
Yeah maybe
It's kinda like mega mind, where the evil guy becomes the good guy after the hero becomes so full of himself he becomes evil
"There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man."
This is a quote that I remembered when watching this, the anger of a gentle man was what I thought of when I heard how Solomon reacted to Olympian and how he dealt with it... I love this quote 😅
I swear, Either Solomon read Superman: Red Son, or is a true mastermind
i would so read this comic
can anyone animate this ? please?
If I were at that level I would totally animate this if given the chance. That was a great story
There is an acual comic like this its batman white knight were the joker becames the hero
White Knight is also good, plus the art is just plain gorgeous. In addition, The Boys by Garth Ennis might be up your alley.
Watch the boys
Solomon, the Chaotic Neutral Anti-hero, the only hero that ever truly heroed
"This ain't no place for no "hero," this ain't no place for no "better man." This ain't no place for no "hero" to call home."
Eric Hillmeyer a fitting response, however, I’m fairly sure the final lyric is “this ain’t no place for no hero, go home.”
This is the kind of friend everyone needs XD
But not the one we deserve
Rui Kirisame This is so fucking true.
Jesus Solomon may have died but damn did he go out like a champion
OMG The guy how plays Solomon should write a movie about this. And Jesus, I would never want to play against that guy EVER.
May Solomon, the true hero, rest in peace. Just a normal man that took down a monster masquerading as a paragon of virtue.
Briefly turned into a revised Stanford prison experiment. The heroes thought their powers absolute, Solomon proved that corruption can certainly be purged.
I will say this, the person whom played Solomon had the mind like the fucking joker! “When some one sees a hero they don’t care about the man. The care about the records. Killing Olympian would still have him be a hero...” Dude, this man is a fucking criminal master mind! Joker level psychology going on here!
Honestly if I player behaved like that in one of my games, I'd ban him from the table.
The Canadian Patriot Olympian or Solomon?
i imagine it would be olympian
Don't let a player pull this shit.
Make more solomans
i like to think the only reason the GM didn't was because Solomon's player was setting all this up.
probobly
"I'm dropping the world on you."
That is an underrated lines.
This sounds like a campaign where the GM never let the supposed heroes feel the consequences of their actions.
He did... eventually. But heres the thing, dms aren't supposed to mess with the players like that. I do agree though, the """""heros""""" were becoming worse than the villans.
@@aidanjohnson3470 it wouldn't be messing with the players, I had a player attack a shop owner and was shocked that he was the one who was sent to the stocks to be tried, you break the laws you get punished, you be an asshole you get shunned
Well, it's not like he had a way of doing that without handwavy bullshit.
@@aidengray3998 Hence why he let Solomon do it for him. ;)
@@aidanjohnson3470 That's shitty DM'ing then if the players are the ones who have to be the ones to enforce consequences. This story sounds like the DM lost control of the table and decided to let other people handle it.
-"To beings as powerfull as this, humans are but ants"
-"Did you know around a hundred people die every year because of ants? Funny , right?"
♪ he was a hero. its a sad thing he got killed, he should be known as a hero, a hero. the villains pretending to be heroes are gone and peace has once comeback. Solomon has saved the city! ♪
I think it was better with the "unhappy" ending. Salomon wasnt the villain the city deserved but the one it needed.
It also sounded like Solomon was a bad guy as well, he was just labeled as the bad guy but I couldn't detect anything bad personally besides killing/immobilizing the "heroes"
The author saying how they wouldn’t want to fight the Solomon player reminds me of Hiei and Kurama
“Do you know why I chose Kurama to be my partner? So I would have to fight him myself. He's more cut-throat than I am when it comes to battle and increadiby precise.”
Wise choice Hiei
That was entertaining and your voice is excellent. This story reminded me of the book Confessions of a D-list Supervillain, some of the heroes in it are bottom of the barrel.
What a great book. Also the comic series The Boys by Garth Ennis has some similar themed of asshole heroes
Heroes of Debauchery
putting so much into stealth you become "unperson" sounds like the character I'd build
"I refuse to play against him to this day" Gee wonder why XD
This deserves an animation, it’s amazing.
I have a friend with an OC that very heavily resembles these "heros" in his Overpoweredness. in any RP I have done with him, I only ever killed him once, because he willingly exposed himself to SCP-173 (can only move when not being watched, kills by instantly snapping the neck) regardless, he's practically untouchable by any means I have found so far. This has given me an idea for how to counter him though, and it works against his core weakness. He can't deal with a social situation where he needs to get out of a fight or something. This has given me the ammo I need to knock him down a peg.
I was left speechless.
I once persevered in a fantasy game surrounded by toxic people, but I never would have imagined someone like Salomon would go on until the end to destroy the ones who became his enemies.
Salomon's player is amazing.
I also would like to point out the DMs patience and tolerance, as well as yours. Incredible.
I have a lot to learn.
Wow. A DnD toxic and OP player horror story with a satisfying ending.
I feel like the GM could have introduced a new villain specifically built to take down Olympian, but then we wouldn't have gotten this story
This was pretty much an AU version of The BOYS, and it was AWESOME!
"How a street thug killed a god"
That's the story of Worm in a nutshell. Skitter, a street thug who controls anything that could be considered an antropod or an annelid, against Scion, who I won't spoil for anyone interested in reading Worm.
Bit more complicated than that but lol yeah
Wow... He played the batman card... But in reverse..
18:37 this is the most amazing thing I’ve ever heard
Honestly this would've been a lot of fun if the "heroes" had out of character been nice and chosen to become villains - instead of being bad players getting their comeuppance, it could've been an awesome opportunity for roleplay and a great game for everyone.
The game is apparently Mutants and Masterminds.
that dude is like batman joker and jigsaw mixed together and i love it i would love to play with him
So... I once had a player, who made this intricate webweavering Spymaster... The player had borrowed some money from me, but when he started to miss the payments we both agreed on repeatedly, I told him that he wasn't welcome at the table until he had learned how to keep promises with his friends, he showed up at my front door and called me the C word...Also he wanted me to finance his dad's gambling debt. *that* was an eyeopener.
whatthehellisthecword
fusionxtras That's not nearly as bad of a word as literally anything else that requires a single letter
Milokiss82 depends on where you are from I guess a lot of people would say that is the worst word you could say. I heard cunt is almost like a greeting in other countries
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Milokiss82 its a lot worse in some countries than others.
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Now that is how you deal with 'that guy'
If Superman ever existed in this super hero world of this Role Play, he'd notice the acts of what the Olimpian did and praise Solomon.
Your friend reminds me of my best friend.. He is a cold bastard when in character and I love him for that
haunting in my mind. But beautiful narration with a powerful lesson/story shared... I put it into another quote but as Aesop said "becareful which monsters you hunt, lest you becometh."
This would make a great story! Imagine the conflicting views and the moral judgment brought into play! So much fun! Maybe not for the characters but definitely for readers.
This man became Rorschach
leet haxorz but Rorschach was already a Grey man
Solomon. Conqueror of demons.
To be honest this was absolutely fantastic and I would be terrified to fight against the player who controlled Solomon, and if I do a superhero roleplay I will make sure to be truly good or I suffer the sacrifices of what may come.
Also this feels like you were describing the shortest movie ever
Interestingly enough, DC themselves did a comic that they adapted into an animated film about how thin the line is between a hero and a villain. The Comic, which is now legendary and one of the best Superman comics, is fittingly named "What's so silly about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" and the film was called Superman vs. The Elite.
In that world, Superman had been active for years, possibly decades and he's doing his thing of arresting criminals and letting people use his likeness is educational children's cartoons. People admire him, but are starting to question the effectiveness of his methods.
Then a new group of "heroes" calling themselves the Elite show up. They're supposedly based on Marvel's "The Ultimates". They fight crime, but they don't hold anything back and are brutal in their execution. They go for the jugular and don't hesitate to kill anyone in the way of their perception of peace. They overthrow nations because it's easier to just kill the leaders of two warring nations than to try for an alternative. And they are calling Superman out.
I think Doktor should have put his brain in Adept's body, also was he unable to extract Solomon's brain?
it would have devalued the characters sacrifice to revive him, it's far more poetic and heartfelt for the character to sacrifice his life in order to in this case avenge his friend and take down the monolith that the hereos were pretending to be
I think +Carter meant "put Ze Doktor's brain into the Adept's body" not Solomon's brain...
Solomon was too long dead and his brain was already rotting. He would have come back insane at best and brain dead at worst.
My god this is the best character I have ever heard of this character doesn't just deserve a video it deserves it's own show like my god the actual tact to it is astounding
Someone should make this into a book. I can see several ways of telling the story, as far as perspectives go.
It could be from Doktor's perspective, allowing Solomon's actions to remaing surprising for those who don't know the original story, although at the cost of having a main character who doesn't really do much in later acts. It could be from Solomon's perspective, where we see all his planning and setup ahead of time, although it'd be a tall order to manage an internal monologue for someone like Solomon. The perspective could be from Olympian's point of view, where we get an inner look into his slipping sanity and ultimate downfall, though it'd come with the risk of people agreeing with him due to the internal perspective.
Or it could be from a rolling series of perspectives, starting with Doktor before he "dies", then moving to Protocol, then Alpha, then Olympian, before ending off with Doktor again for the epilogue. I personally think this is the best method, since it lets suspense build as even main characters are shown to be vulnerable, and all of Solomon's trickery is seen from an outside view, as though his stealth is so incredible even the story can't fully look at him.
Also, I know about both Worm and The Boys, but just because there exist a few good stories where the heroes are bastards doesn't mean making more is a bad thing.
Indeed. a key thing is that in that universe...there are genuine heroes. the city however ended up with tyrants masquerading as heroes, using their powers and abilities to indulge their vices and cause death and suffering to anyone they consider 'evil'. solomon and doktor...they are not good guys. they are villains, but they likely have something resembling a code of ethics. Doktor is the kind of mad genius inventor- campy villain with robots, weapons and inventions to be used by other villains to help supplement their arsenals. Solomon meanwhile is an enigma, mostly a mundane. the kind of criminal who could be any punk or thug on the street, but is just really skilled at many things. the general series of perspectives starts with a general look and the situation, the surface level set up, some set up for doktor and solomon's bond, but have the focus shifting toward the heroes turning to tyranny and cruelty, before finally climaxing with the failed heist in the end of the 1st third and Doktor's brutal death(of his body) at the hands of Olympian. Solomon left fleeing into the night with doktor's body, seeing him desperately get doktor revived, but now stuck as a brain in a jar attached to an exoskeleton. while doktor is upset that he died, he works to move on... solomon however...well thats when we start seeing solomon become the spector of retribution and karma against the heroes, and we see from the perspective of the heroes, solomon going from a nobody street-thug...to a nightmare manipulator. in a comic form, there would be the chance for some set up to the whole 'who is protocol' bit, with the media clip for the original news article, then the uneditted footage provided by solomon, and we see from the heros perspective and the perspective of the general people their reaction before we get to solomon's harsh mic drop moment, and we see solomon getting up and leaving protocol's house, the footage streamed from protocols home computer, with noone noticing solomon as he seemingly disappears into the crowd. we cut to the anti-vigilante force of police being called in on protocal who makes a threat but ends up gunned down by police. after that there is a lul...something of an aftermath. only doktor having more contact with solomon but solomon mostly being a indepentant untraceable force.
the phase net being noted as a weapon that doktor developed to fight olympian, but his invulnerability to all forms of energy damage and physical harm from the prototypes used against him disuades doktor from employing it against him. adept however get hit by the phase net and solomon speaks to adept over the intercom...after the trap is sprung, explaining what is happening as the pain spikes for adept. "this device is directly tied into the cities power grid. and i know enough from fighting you to know your powers allow you to conciously adapt to fit any physical situation. anything with higher functioning cognicion in the phasenet will suffer pain until they either are passout from the pain, or the batteries on the device die. this device is powered by your city...which comfortably supports over 5million people with ample power to spare...so it will take a while for it to die." "I can adapt out of this..." "are you sure, you want to do that? your power is nature taking the straightest path to its solving its problem." "Yes." "very well then..." Adept becomes functionally braindead as solomon then turns off the phase net and carries adept to a nearby hospital and leaves him to their care. then olympian goes hardcore tyrant, most minor heroes and villains of the city are forced underground as olympian tries every angle he can to find solomon, chasing the doktor and failing to catch him after he traces the phase net to him, but then after everything has been made a nightmare of olympians own making...solomon casually makes the call to olympian, giving his exact location to olympian with his last stand prepared. soloman is smaller, not at strong as olympian...quite unassuming but confident as he lays down the rules for olympian and destroys olympian's image of heroism while facing his death with dignity. doktor arrives after solomon dies, but especially after an army of true superheroes lead by the equivilent of the justice league gets into a battle with olympian to capture him. a distraction that gives him room to attempt to save solomon's brain like he did, but sadly is too late to do more than get some final words from his freind. then we get an epilogue section with solomon's words playing over it, olympian imprisoned in a prison that can contain him, adept in a low security medical center where they attempt to reverse his current condition while he does his time, the police establishing the protocol protocol for extemely dangerous vigilantes like protocol, olympians statue is torn down, and doktor make a memorial of his own in his lair, and after paying his respects... turns toward his next bit of villainous action with a new kind of heroic purpose... helping to make a new generation of heroes who fit solomon's ideal.
*deep inhale* oh, oh that was satisfying. the schadenfreude
"it's a good thing you're not a hero then you bastard" , OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH SHIT
Man, just came here feeling a need to rewatch. 100% your voice acting for Solomon is the best, really captured his personality.
i would like to point out that solomon said to simply drink the 'toxins' and not that the toxins would even kill olympian
I'm digging on Solomon. I always appreciate clever, and tactical, with a well prepared plan over some meathead that sees everything as a single solution.
This whole story feels like an rpg version of The Boys. And I love it!
Lawful Evil
cn tbh
To be honest this straddles chaotic good
Yeah, I'd agree with Chaotic Good. He worked outside of the law in order to prove that these heroes were actually terrible people - all while putting no innocents in danger.
I'm actually more of the mind of Chaotic Neutral. He was out for revenge, and that revenge had to be perfect. It being a beneficial act for everybody was simply happenstance.
Its what happens when somebody who actually knows how to run Chaotic Neutral, as opposed to someone who uses Chaotic Neutral as an excuse to do whatever the fuck he wants without bothering with alignment reprecussions, goes on the fucking warpath.
What about Doktor?
Six months later and I'm still coming back to enjoy this story. It's just....so good. So cathartic. Easily the best Patreon Special you've done on this channel, with great respect to the others.
I love this story.
Tfw the hero players slowly become the Seven from The Boys.
Question: When you say “I’ve refused to play against *him* ever since”, do you mean the Olympian player for his behaviour or the Solomon player because he’s too good? The narrative structure kinda confused me.
Solomon as well since he was just genuinely terrifying
Dude, this needs to be a MOVIE.
That was great! Thanks for reading it!
This reminds me of a Dungeons and Dragons campaign where I was a healer cleric when the party created only overpowered characters and began just playing only among themselves taking over the game . Telling my healer they don't need me killing everything in two turns. Then one day I trade with the main evil character game is over Pathfinder game done the God of evil and contracts has a new cleric and the ultimate item he was seeking put into the hands of the cleric by his side as his main new cleric of his order.
That is a very broken structure for a paragraph. Please remember to type like talking, breathe and think about if your words make sense.
Sorry , tend to ramble , I've been working on it. I try to put commas where the inhale would be , and a period where the structure of a single sentence , or subject ends. Anyone reading what was said before , is great advice , good comment.
@@patriciodaniels7168 Summarized.
Cleric starts. Other characters metagame the shit out of theirselves and become OP.
Put down cleric for being a healer. Cleric trades with big bad. Gives item hes looking for, God of Evil summon yadda yadda game over.
Cleric becomes head of a new order underneath big bad "God of Evil and Contracts"
@@TragGaming Thanks. That last sentence was killer
I've herd this story so many times and keep coming back. This is a first hearing you tell it and i have you say you done a bang up job buddy. Love the emotion you put into it
This was amazingly great. I was already getting gooseflesh by the end of this.