Had to buy 75Hz monitor with my RX 470 because at that time 144Hz were $350. Now 7 years later all newer games get me fps in it's freesync range so its just as good experience. This card probably won't die so I'm planning to use it as long as I can.
I have a Ryzen 2600X on a B450 motherboard with an RX 470 4GB GPU. I have been pricing new hardware and have discovered that if I want what I would consider _a meaningful upgrade in performance,_ I would need a B550/X570 motherboard and a Ryzen 5000 series CPU. At Least a 5700X. And also _at least_ an RX 6700 XT. If I'm going to spend $150-ish on a new motherboard and $200-ish on a new CPU and $300+-ish on a new GPU, I might as well just buy into the AM5 platform. Honestly, my current system really does do everything I want it to, and does it without much fuss. I have no actual _Reason_ to upgrade. But, . . . I still want to upgrade, lol. And that'll never change. I find that when I rush out and buy the very latest hardware, a 'newer one' is just a few months away. Then I end up with buyers remorse. Now, I just wait until the hardware is a few years old and is available at a reasonable price on the used market. I've been happier and less stressed about my purchases since I've relaxed a bit.
I got a bit tired of the new componets. Sure, for people that are not interested in tinkering, new components are probably the better choice. As for myself ... well ... I've been bitten by the used parts bug.
Same bro, here with RX 470 on Ryzen 3600. Looking out to upgrade but the market feels positioned like Apple products, the higher option seems better value for money but the higher option never ends.
I am still using this GPU - Sapphire Rx 570 dual fan with specs - I5 4670 12gb ram ssd / hdd Well if i tell you my experience it works pretty good in day to day uses like office work, but for gaming it is somehow down very bad, getting 120 - 180 fps in valo, 1080p | getting 30 - 60 fps in GTA Fivem server. It is better to buy a AMD Apu like Ryzen 5600g or higher rather than getting this combo.
The CPU side of the setup is the bottleneck here. I (accidentaly) tested the RX570 with an equivalent CPU and got similar results in Valorant. The Fivem fps is suspicious though - I think that reducing graphical options might help.
this sort of GPU performance where the CPU is getting close to if not actually bottlenecking should prompt retesting at higher quality settings. people probably aren't going to stick with "low" settings on a GPU that is mainstream market and reasonable CPU if they're seeing 100+ fps. even for someone with an older CPU seeing that sort of performance is likely to increase to medium quality settings, or try more modern games or slightly older AA and AAA games. otherwise it's getting into "i have a celeron and RTX 3090" territory of trying to refuse updating the platform and putting all the money into a GPU. being able to do comparisons with weaker/older cards at low settings is valuable, but might be a disservice once you get into more modern choices like the RX 570 where medium settings are more warranted.
@@oldertechtoday sounds good - the more competitive esports games though make sense for high fps/high refresh so low settings are more popular, so you're very good to show these :) ever thought to show the effect of a cheap SSD on fps? some games like PalWorld or Genshin Impact (and even GTA IV or Outer Worlds) benefit from an SSD purely because of streaming game resources. if someone is tempted to have an RX 570 and increase texture quality, but doesn't have an SSD, they could have a performance hit jsut from the game i/o.
your Valorant fps is quite high, my 1500x with 570 4GB and 16GB @2666 manage to get 150ish at 1080p but the micro stutter is annoying, i need to cap it to 75fps to eliminate the micro stutter..
I'm not sure how the first gen Ryzen fares agains Haswell, so I can't comment on that. I also am not familiar with your setup: single channel DDR4, or dual channel? Anyway, the performance difference can be due to different test used; in case I didn't mention this, I ran the spike planting training.
@oldertechtoday dual channel of course, on single channel I barely got 120 iirc and the micro stutter is way worse. Oh it's on training? Maybe try it on real unrated match since it'll be more realistic to real life use :D And iirc 1st gen ryzen should be on par with intel 6th gen, but their performance shouldn't have much different with haswell..
@PinotNoir_ In Fortnite I use a live match replay, since it is both reproducible and representative for the game. The next choice would be a bot match, since I could still somewhat do the same run.
Had to buy 75Hz monitor with my RX 470 because at that time 144Hz were $350.
Now 7 years later all newer games get me fps in it's freesync range so its just as good experience.
This card probably won't die so I'm planning to use it as long as I can.
I have a Ryzen 2600X on a B450 motherboard with an RX 470 4GB GPU. I have been pricing new hardware and have discovered that if I want what I would consider _a meaningful upgrade in performance,_ I would need a B550/X570 motherboard and a Ryzen 5000 series CPU. At Least a 5700X. And also _at least_ an RX 6700 XT. If I'm going to spend $150-ish on a new motherboard and $200-ish on a new CPU and $300+-ish on a new GPU, I might as well just buy into the AM5 platform. Honestly, my current system really does do everything I want it to, and does it without much fuss. I have no actual _Reason_ to upgrade. But, . . . I still want to upgrade, lol. And that'll never change. I find that when I rush out and buy the very latest hardware, a 'newer one' is just a few months away. Then I end up with buyers remorse. Now, I just wait until the hardware is a few years old and is available at a reasonable price on the used market. I've been happier and less stressed about my purchases since I've relaxed a bit.
I got a bit tired of the new componets. Sure, for people that are not interested in tinkering, new components are probably the better choice. As for myself ... well ... I've been bitten by the used parts bug.
@@oldertechtoday Yep, I get a lot more enjoyment out of older hardware than I do chasing a few extra frames for a ridiculous amount of money.
Based!
Same bro, here with RX 470 on Ryzen 3600.
Looking out to upgrade but the market feels positioned like Apple products, the higher option seems better value for money but the higher option never ends.
I am still using this GPU - Sapphire Rx 570 dual fan
with specs -
I5 4670
12gb ram
ssd / hdd
Well if i tell you my experience it works pretty good in day to day uses like office work, but for gaming it is somehow down very bad, getting 120 - 180 fps in valo, 1080p | getting 30 - 60 fps in GTA Fivem server.
It is better to buy a AMD Apu like Ryzen 5600g or higher rather than getting this combo.
The CPU side of the setup is the bottleneck here. I (accidentaly) tested the RX570 with an equivalent CPU and got similar results in Valorant.
The Fivem fps is suspicious though - I think that reducing graphical options might help.
Do you know the thickness of the thermal pads? if they are 1.5mm or 1mm? Great video!
I did not measure them, but I will do that later today (9 hours from now -ish).
The memory pad measures around 1.2mm, but I believe it started out at 1.5mm, then got a bit squished between the RAM and heatsink.
Grate video bro
Ty.
this sort of GPU performance where the CPU is getting close to if not actually bottlenecking should prompt retesting at higher quality settings. people probably aren't going to stick with "low" settings on a GPU that is mainstream market and reasonable CPU if they're seeing 100+ fps. even for someone with an older CPU seeing that sort of performance is likely to increase to medium quality settings, or try more modern games or slightly older AA and AAA games. otherwise it's getting into "i have a celeron and RTX 3090" territory of trying to refuse updating the platform and putting all the money into a GPU.
being able to do comparisons with weaker/older cards at low settings is valuable, but might be a disservice once you get into more modern choices like the RX 570 where medium settings are more warranted.
True, true. I did a retest for 4 GPUs in the past, and I do plan to do something similar for this one (and 2 more).
@@oldertechtoday sounds good - the more competitive esports games though make sense for high fps/high refresh so low settings are more popular, so you're very good to show these :)
ever thought to show the effect of a cheap SSD on fps? some games like PalWorld or Genshin Impact (and even GTA IV or Outer Worlds) benefit from an SSD purely because of streaming game resources. if someone is tempted to have an RX 570 and increase texture quality, but doesn't have an SSD, they could have a performance hit jsut from the game i/o.
your Valorant fps is quite high, my 1500x with 570 4GB and 16GB @2666 manage to get 150ish at 1080p but the micro stutter is annoying, i need to cap it to 75fps to eliminate the micro stutter..
I'm not sure how the first gen Ryzen fares agains Haswell, so I can't comment on that. I also am not familiar with your setup: single channel DDR4, or dual channel?
Anyway, the performance difference can be due to different test used; in case I didn't mention this, I ran the spike planting training.
@oldertechtoday dual channel of course, on single channel I barely got 120 iirc and the micro stutter is way worse.
Oh it's on training? Maybe try it on real unrated match since it'll be more realistic to real life use :D
And iirc 1st gen ryzen should be on par with intel 6th gen, but their performance shouldn't have much different with haswell..
@PinotNoir_ In Fortnite I use a live match replay, since it is both reproducible and representative for the game. The next choice would be a bot match, since I could still somewhat do the same run.
this card deserves an extensive retest
It does. I plan to retest a few other cards as well, with other games and settings.