Patek Philippe vs Audemars Piguet - Which One Is Better??
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- Nowadays with the rise of the Nautilus prices it's easy to pick Patek, but there are many factors that do not include current market price.
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I’m Watch Eric and in this video we’re going to be debating Patek Philippe vs. Audemars Piguet.
I've always told people that when comparing the “popular” big three brands the line up is as follows: Rolex is at the bottom, AP in the middle, and Patek is on top. In this debate today we are not taking into consideration the recent high market prices of Patek. We are looking at this from the perspective of branding, models, traditions, and retail prices.
Brand Recognition
The first brand that is the master of this is Rolex. You can go anywhere in the world and people will know that a Rolex watch is a thing of value. Although I love AP, I feel that Patek has way more brand recognition worldwide. I would say that in the “expensive’ watch world, right after Rolex everyone recognizes Patek Philippe. They may not know much about an AP, but you show them a very old and thin Calatrava and they will read the name and say omg it’s a Patek Philippe.
Flag Ship Models
When comparing the design of their flagship models which right now are the AP Royal Oak and the Patek Nautilus, I like to use cars to help relate to these models. The Royal Oak is more of a sports car like Ferrari or Lamborghini. Sharper lines and more of an aggressive sporty look. While the Nautilus has more smoother elegant lines like those of a Rolls Royce. Although they are two different looks, I notice that sports car guys will have a Rolls most of the times, but many times a guy with a Rolls will not have a sports car. This happens too with Patek. It’s timeless just like a Rolls Royce.
Traditional Leather Strap Models
When you put aside the sports models of the two brands and we focus on the other models. Patek is on top.
AP has there Jules Audemars line up and the new Code11.59, but these models have not really had much success like countless Patek models have. Some of my favorites like the 5070, 5270, and 5960 are classics. Not to mention my all time favorite Patek models the Celestial and the Sky moon. AP just does not have anything to really compete with them.
Finish and Presentation
Both brands have a high quality finish and presentation. Patek seems to go a bit more above and beyond. Even the box tends to have more of a luxurious feel. AP warranty papers come in a book that is nice but Patek has a unique leather folder for the papers and a lot more touches that make you feel like you are really getting more of an experience. AP movements have an amazing finish, but Patek tends to take it up one more notch on finish and presentation.
Brand Tradition
Patek seems to be a brand that is more of a family heirloom. Just has that deep root tradition.
Patek coined the slogan “You never actually own a Patek, you merely look after it for the next generation”.
Genius marketing but true. As much as I enjoy the AP brand, I do not see someone buying a 44mm Rose gold offshore for the purpose of passing it down as an heirloom. Patek never does what is popular. They do what is right for the brand and the heritage.
The conclusion is that Patek Philippe is the next level after Audemars Piguet.
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You never actually own a Patek Philippe. You merely look at it from the boutique’s display window.
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I’m Watch Eric and I approve this statement!! Lol
Maybe you right about him but not me and i would say patek is better
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Totally agree. AP is a 1 hit wonder. Patek's whole catalog is bangers.
this are the words of someone who does not own a AP or a Patek.
Bad Toro99 😂you dont have to own the thing to be a fan and have opinions. For example most Ferrari fans don’t own Ferraris.
I wouldn’t say AP are 1 hitters lol. They been around since 1800s. Richard Mille has more of a 1 hit vibe.
Patek is always winner, there is a reason that Patek is higher brand than AP
@peespooropinions Calatravas are just as foundational to Patek DNA as their grand complications, fym
Great video. I love how you actually offered an opinion and didn't sit on the fence. Selfishly, it would be nice if you were able to produce more content because this space needs content like yours. Cheers Eric
I have a lot of rolex watches ( Milgauss, GMT Batgirl, Exlporer 1 39mm , Submariner , Date Just ) and every reference will stay by me for ever , because every model has an individuell history for me and I like this watches a lot. Last year i got a dream from my dealer and my watchworld changed in a crazy way. I became a 5980R and I fell in love with Patek...... So Eric , well done job and gon on. It is a pleasure to listen to you.
Right on! Eric, keep these coming. I do miss that awesome kick a$$ intro (music) you had in your CRM days.
There will be a new and better one.
you're downright, and nailed it so well.
great video as always.. thank you
I have always really valued Eric’s videos. Back in his CRM days he would always respond to my questions about watches. I wish him the very best in the watch business.
Thank you very much Jason!
Great content Eric as usual! Thanks for dropping that knowledge on us!
Thank you for watching
Eric, do you think the finishing on the case/bracelet of the AP Royal Oak or PP Nautilus is better/ higher quality?.... Great video!
Do a video speaking about Vacheron, almost no one mentions them.
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Dog
Never heard of them
Roman just did one
Couldn’t Agree more Eric. Also love how kept the bloopers in lol. Bravo!
Thank you!
Hi Eric, I love your videos. A heads up - DT is casting aspersions on u in the TRF Patek subforum. You want to respond?
Couldn't agree more. You nailed it man. Love your videos editing always. Keep it up.
Thank you Rick!
Nice video again Eric. I am a jaeger le coultre fanboy, but if I have to choose it would be a Patek. Only AP I really like is the Royal Oak 39mm ultra thin. But i like lots of Patek models.... So i fully agree with your view on this. Greetings from Belgium and looking forward to the next video!
Thanks Eric I always look forward to your videos turning the big 40 i’m giving myself a present lol. I’m going with a 39 mm AP Royal Oak chronograph with a black face I like the novelist but I always like a Ferrari and your point on of comparing watches never was a Rolls-Royce guy maybe when I’m 60 but right now staying young at heart thank you God bless you
Eric loving your work. More videos pls. Will you collab with crm in the future ?
That’s not a serious competition. AP has had one watch for years, PP covers the entire spectrum with a lot better finishing.
VC is a lot close to PP than AP (even though VC is underrated vs the two others).
If you want to compare PP to another larger brand, then it is A Lange. Otherwise these two are only second to some smaller watchmaker owned brands
Couldn't agree more.
I’m starting to doubt pateks finishing. I mean just look at the subdial hands at 1:28, horomariobro on Instagram has some great macro shots highlighting this on a 5712 and I’ve even seen it without a loupe on a 5205. This is incredibly frustrating because they denounced the Geneva seal for not being a high enough standard and claimed the Patek seal demanded higher quality yet there is no way that would pass. More frustrating is the 6007 released earlier this year that meant to be a showcase for their ‘new headquarters in Geneva, but they used a stamped dial rather than a guilloched one, another corner cut that makes me worry Patek is going to be making more watches cheaply
I agree with this.Full spectrum
Pateks quality is appalling
PP has immaculate quality no doubt, but that VC has a better fit an finish than AP is totally false. That’s a comment from someone that hasn’t lived with any of the brands.
Spot on as usual, keep going chief👌 100k subscribers before you know it🕺👍
Eric awesome video as always! I love Patek more because of it being a Patek and the whole value it holds! But AP is just so much more bang for your money! I own an offshore and a Royal Oak in RG and just don’t see me giving both of those and still not being able to afford a 5980rg! I guess when you have the money then you get to the PP level! My comparison Is PP is a rolls Royce and AP is a Bentley! All super cars like a red 488 would be a Richard Mille! 😊✌🏼
Hola Eric , i have the PP5980 Steel 2009 with Geneva seal , any difference with the PP seal in the collectors point of view ? . Saludos ..
Really like the rough cuts in this video Eric, keep up the good work 👍🏻 Patek is by far the superior brand but everyone should have at least one AP in their collection imo
Thank you for watching!
If u got an AP or a PP your smashing it too lovely whatches I will own an AP one day for sure my fav. Great video👍
If I may ask, what is your take on Vacheron constantin watches, particularly their Overseas line? how does the VC Overseas to the AP line of Off -Shore and PP nautulus line of watches?
Thanks.
Nice comparison Eric. Real world down to earth guy with real world noises...only you can pull it off my friend!
Appreciate that
Good point about the models. I don't think I know of any other watch besides the royal oak from AP (why the name btw, nothing about it fits the name). But I can think of about three different looking non-nautilus Patek watches. AP is my favorite looking watch but Patek just symbolizes understated, classy old money. If you have a Patek, you likely also have multiple bank accounts, IRA, a summer home, etc. If you own an AP, chances are higher you just own a really cool and expensive watch.
hey eric, cool video. we both love AP but its hard to compare. i have the feeling that many of your points are related to the price differences. you get better finishing and a better box with PP? yes, but the watch costs thousands of dollars more.
yes, AP has not so many models on leather, ok, fair point. but i would have hoped you said just 1 time that the AP bracelet is king ;)
I didn’t know what to expect before I saw your video. AP seems to be the brand of the moment I thought your report would be slanted. It wasn’t. I have to agree with every comment you made about the brands. I wear a PP almost daily, I just love it that much, but I’ve always admired the Royal Oak and sometimes think of adding one. I am not a Rolex fan for me. Keep up the good work
Hey Eric! Will be dropping u an email on a collab. Hope to hear from you soon! Great video too, Patek Philippe is 2nd to none imo, especially when it comes to the nautilus’ , no competition to royal oaks in my opinion. the design is timeless, classy and not too loud, yet it demands the respect it deserves. I love the AP royal oak too but the nautilus takes the cake everytime for me. Tried on the 5712R and fell in love ever since.
To me the design of the AP never feels dated, whereas the Nautilus definitely has a stronger 70s vibe to it that might feel dated to some. Personally i prefer the design of the RO. Ps I never realised the movement finishing of the Nautilus was superior to the Royal Oak, I had presumed the craftsmanship of the Patek, AP and Vacheron were on a similar level.....
Dont know if this is an unpopular opinion, but the Nautilus is waaay better looking and elegant than the Royal Oak. The RO looks very unrefined and rough (specially with those hideous screws on the bezel) whilst the Nautilus has a more elegant and luxurious look to it. The RO looks like a $800 watch compared to a $10.000 look of the Nautilus
Eric, you have the best 1 liners. Keep crushing it. AP Skeleton next pls.
Thank you Joel!
Love the editing !
Thank you
Some days things will just take a little longer to get done 😆.
Glad you kept the outtakes.
Thank you. It was brutal
I gotta say: Really good video. You get a subscription for sure, good content. Though I have to disagree with one point: It's right that some people dislike sports cars though I think many many many people prefer a fast sports car over a rolls royce and many many people drive a sportscar (an exotic one) and as their second car they have a Mercedes, BMW or Audi. For many people a sports car even is a child dream, whereas a RR isn't. Whatsoever I also prefer a luxury Wraith over a Ferarri because let's be real, a Ferrari etc really isnt a car for the daily life.
And btw, isn't that Day-Date on your arm even more expensive than a Nautilus or Royal Oak in steel?
Thank you Flo. No the Daydate still is not more than the others
Yes Eric U are Bang-on, as always.............. nothing can beat a PP. Would love to see some VC the newer grande complications. If you could, Plz.......
Thanks Eric,
Was very nice to do business with You.
Thank you!!!
IMHO, PP isn't better than AP, they are each amazing and recognizable in their own unique way. Just a matter of preference.
That is true!
I agree Simon my AP ROO ''Ghost'' gets more attention then a
PP I had.
@@arturvagner6330 as mentioned by Eric, the RO is more like a lambo and that always catches people attention.
PP over AP for me, i don't buy watches for the sake of receiving attention.
Hi Eric. Great Video. In my opinion. The Nautilus Looks like a Tv Screen from the 70th just old Fashion. Greetings from germany
Jajajaja. Thanks
Great topic, I had a bad experience with an AP Royal Oak Chronograph 41 in steel and I sold it but one year later and I want another AP. Eric if you have 60k to spend on 1 watch or a couple, which one would you get?
60k for a watch🤭🤭🤭
Just give me 3k.
My goal is to get my first Rolex from you. Hopefully sooner than later. Thanks for all the knowledge!
great video man
Can you please review the Invicta reference 8926OB?
Eric I realize money or price is part of the value but where would you place Vacheron Constantin just as the total brand against these two for quality,collectability, status etc?
I absolutely love the watch you are wearing in the video sir!
It’s for sale lol!
Another great report
I think you're right about the brand and all that.
But as a sporty modern watch I prefer the AP models.
I have a 41mm Chrono and a 42mm Offshore.
In 20 years maybe a Patek on leather will suit me too. At the moment only the Nautilus on bracelet would be something for me, but I really like the Royal Oak design more.
It was a tough call because I enjoy AP so much!
@@WatchEric Yeah, I know from your other videos that you love AP.
That's why I was surprised that Patek is so far ahead for you in that comparision.
another great video thank you
I just got my first AP and i looked at PP very much before pulling the trigger on my new ROO. Honestly the AP screams excitement and fun. The PP gives me a 50 yr old guy vibe not that fun imo. The PP is beautiful, and yes worth a truck load. I respect the Patek very much but it’s very very subtle. The AP is excitement the colors the combos the mystique is brilliant. AP for me. My other watch is a Rootbeer Rolex in 18k Rose Gold. My Ap is a Steel 42 indigo blue with a blue strap 🤙🏻
Many people feel that it’s very conservative!
hands down PP over anything out there all day...mad love Eric, been subbed since ur old intro with the spinning cartoon Eric lol, my brother i am thinking about purchasing a Tudor black bay heritage 58 with the red bezel, lookin at a little over 3 racks brand new, ur thought???
Get it. Bought that watch based on Eric's recommendation from an old video 2 years ago. I have been complimented and upgraded non-stop because of it.
@Richard Tan...thank u my brotha...just love the overall look of that watch, on an aged leather strap with the clasp, stunnin color combo with the red bezel, black dial with the gold hints, awesome movement, 70 power reserve, n @ a great price, i currently own a no date sub from 1978 that i won in a card game in 2008, but this would b my 1st major watch purchase, spending that type of $...but thank god i am finally in a position to do so, few years from now that 41 mm datejust "wimbledon" is next on the list, thank u again brotha, cheers to ur success
@@tonydiaz9458 Thanks bro! Wish you the best as well!
I like your comparison between cars and Watches . I find you made the perfect example by comparing Patek watches to Rolls Royce and Audemars to Lamborghini ( because the lines of modern royal oak offshores remind me more of it than Ferrari).
I would paradoxically compare Ferrari’s only to 571x’s models for PP or classics 154xx and 155xx for AP because a Ferrari is surely sporty but classy at the same time.
Two amazing brands and yet I again agree with you that Patek has a better whole rounded collection. Think of the Sky Moon Tourbillon. A 2 Mil Wonder watch.
And I understand why AP might be perceived as way better by younger generations as AP has been at the forefront of a design revolution with ultra modern lines and sleek designs.
They pioneered the iced out wave this appealing Rappers and getting the message across for youngsters through their idols.
Yet as you mentioned the code 11.59 or the Millenary collections despite its breakthrough features have not really stuck into the classic watch design realm as much as certain Patek collection pieces.
I personally favour Patek. Because it certainly is a better investment in the long term.
But have the privilege of owning both and thus being able to decide when to wear what.
Great input and information
I always say to my clients that PP/AP are Rolls Royce/Bentley. Sportscar/supercar watches are RM, MB&F & Urwerk etc. My favourite brand is only a bicycle in comparison. But not just any bikes, the best ones money can buy.
Great video as always, thanks 🙏 for the awesome content. Keep it up 👍 💪
I really wish you had opportunity to make Akrivia review, especially AK-06 model, its a great independent swiss watch
I think Lange has the best finish on there movements, interesting future for the German company,but PP is still king, love AP though.
Thank you Jeffery
Quality of PP is deteriorating and Low Finishing is common with most of their models except Grand Complications . check the video of : Iam Hafiz on youtube about the Low Quality finish of the Aquanaut .They are using their own Seal because they are not qualified for Geneva Seal Like AP and VC .
what is a day date 2 with factory time and bezel?
Thanks Eric, got them both in different flavors. My fav, PF -
Yesss
Absolutely it is .. no need to even compare but u did and I enjoyed it greatly… thank u
Only Watch Eric could pull off this comparison whilst wearing a DDII with factory diamond bezel! Agree Patek is #1 and if I was to use your 'car' analogy that AP is Sports and PP is a Rolls Royce then Rolex would have to be a Tank, a luxury equipped one but a Tank none the less. Great video!
Lol. Rolex a tank
The shows are getting better and better my friend
Thank you Scott!
I have both Rolex, PP and AP. You are totally right when it comes to Rolex but here in Sweden the AP is the watch to wear! A lot of people comment my AP when barhopping. The PP not so much, hardly any to be honest. The PP I only use with jackets now days, the AP and Rolex goes with anything.
Great input!
Nice video. Vacheron Constantine is also beautiful watch brand.
It’s straight Patek homie, all day.
All Day!
@@WatchEric Agreed, Patek 100%
The "Murderers Row" of "Heavy Hitters" Eric. Great comparison video. Chock full of details and honest opinions. Let's not forget the outtakes. Jajajajaja PP for understated creme de la creme. AP for the nouveau rich. Depends if you want to be noticed or envied. PP for me.
Well Said. Thanks for watching!
You answered my question at the end of the video lol.
Lol
Me quedo con el AP! Un abrazo hermano!
I agree on all aspects you discussed Eric. But emotionally I like AP more.
Me too.
Excellent comparison on all levels. I won’t feel like I’ve really arrived until I can afford a
Patek. Until that day... Rolex will have to do!
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Completely agree, although I like the Royal Oak over the Nautilus, Patek as a brand is so much more well rounded and well thought out. I still prefer Vacheron over Patek. Vacheron Vs Patek possible video idea .......
Eric, tienes toda la razón del mundo!!
With all due respect....it's AP for me all the way
I love them both!
Same here, Patek makes woman sized watches
I love them both, I have worn a Nautilus and a Royal oak... and in my opinion AP is just a little bit better (Although my opinion only includes those 2 models, I have never worn any other of their products)
I might be wrong but do Patel still use pins in their bracelets while AP uses screw links?
They use pins
@@WatchEric Crazy that a watch that can cost up to £50,000 still uses pins.Not really good enough!
Eric por que dejas por fuera él overseas de VC
Can you guys edit out the parts that are not related to the video? Like reactions to interrupting noises? Thanks
Cool Vid, like always! 😀 But I don‘t agree with u at the patek-Status: I think there a some other brands in that range (like Breguet, Lange, Blancpain) which have similar or better quality, but not such a good marketing like Patek... and finally - how serious can I take a brand like Patek that produces also Quarz-models?!? 😑
I've always thought that rolex and Patek had great proportions and symmetry to their watches... AP on the other hand just seem so large and over the top... Even the AP RO at 39mm is too large... The new 37mm seem more fitting however.
Damn bro, you didn't give AP much of a chance! 😂 But seriously no argument here, Patek is a Rolls Royce and AP is a sports car - I personally think that besides the nautilus and the aquanaut (which I don't really like) PP is a bit too "dressy' for me...and since IDGAF about taking care of my watch for the next generation I'll burn my cash with something I think is cool AF right now - AP all the way! Cool video!
Great input!!
I thought Eric was going to start cursing in his native tongue at all of the distractions
Jajajajaja
Eric, were you raised speaking english and then spanish, or viceversa?
Great vid Eric! I think AP is best for sport, and PP is best for dress. Rolex is best for affordable luxury. Make sense?
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Eric why do you make a video to see all the boxes from watches ? I feel it's like an amazing experience to us see what have when you buy a brand new watch.
Spot on Eric. I own some rolex sports daytona and an AP 25860ST. Still a Patek 5170 is the holy grail.
Watch Eric with another banger!
Another one.lol
I like how at the end you point out that you’re flexing a Rollie while you’re talking about Patek and AP. Lol
Hahahahaha
Eric dropping some knowledge there. Truth was spoken.
Thank you for watching!!
Both the Nautalis and the Royal Oak are great Genta designs if I had both. I’d rock the Royal Oak a lot more often. the Nautalis would spend more time in a safety deposit box. But both great.
Jajaja. Agree
How do you like the Nautilus 5726 white dial?
Love it
Vacheron deserves a vídeo together with AP and Patek, after all these three still are the Holly Trinity of Watch!
The Trinity they are
Xq no mencionas a Vacheron? Buen video :)
great video eric
Thank you Thomas
100 % all said on point !!! Well said 👏
Eric please do a video on the top 10 heavy hitter rolex watches that demand respect in the watch game.
Good idea
I couldn’t agree with you more Eric!!!
What do you think of Vacheron Constantin as a brand? That will be interesting.....
would have liked if you mentioned aquanaut to the offshore and each of their take on certain complications
I could have but they are way too different
Watch Eric understood. Thank you!
Tough Choice, But I'll lean towards AP. The only PP that has attracted me is the 5711 series.
You’re so right about Patek name vs AP. Even my wife, who doesn’t give two shits about watches, asked me what I was thinking about buying next, and I mentioned looking at a Patek. She said “Did you get a bonus at work?” She was kidding, but she recognized it as the best (for her, that’s most expensive :) ) She would have no clue what a AP was. I also like that you put Rolex third, rather than Vacheron. VC’s are better watches than Rolex in most cases, but their marketing sucks (should that matter? No. Does it? 100%). And finally, you know this is a legit video since Eric is the one who has almost convinced me to buy an AP. I’m shocked he didn’t pick AP.
Hahahahah. That’s great man. Thank you for telling me that I almost convinced you. I know the VC is amazing and superior. That’s why I said “popular” three.
Watch Eric Eric, I was absolutely agreeing with you! Fantastic video again man.
AP & Patek by Gerald Genta are true Gentleman's Watches for Men 💯✨
Yes. Patek is on another historical and maybe mechanical level, but the design and finish of the Royal Oak is amazing, striking. Even the bracelet design is so beautifully made, makes it look like a bargain next to a Nautilus.
I love the AP bracelet
Why is Patek another historical level? It is a Royal Oak itself, who saved swiss watchmaking and who is the real pioneer in this segment. Nautilus is then just one of many followers. Actually AP is on different mechanical level in compare to Patek, they just do nothing last years.
i totally agree with you. i also prefer the design of AP's as well lol
You and Me!
Both are the best of the best. But matters which one looks better on your wrist. And that is the best for you. I have worn nautilus 5711, calatrava 5227, ap 15202, 15300. On my wrist the winner was AP.
Hey Eric.
What about the rumour on PP, i hear they will be sold in near future...?!?
Is there something true?
Nice video as always!
I’m contemplating on an AP or Patel… so difficult to choose😅