I met Joan at an airport once. I said hi as she was passing by. She stopped, flashed that awesome smile and took time to talk with me. She was so nice. My sister works for an airline. She says Joan and the band are always so gracious and kind to the fans.
Oh man! I've only been to an airport maybe twice in my life, for two trips, and I would have died to randomly meet her! Although, I say nothing is really random, You Were Meant to meet her, and how beautiful that was!
I saw Joan Jett at the Texas Jam in 1982. She was so gracious and gave lots of praise to her band The Blackhearts. Wasn't really a fan but that sure struck me as a humble, kind gal.
I could say practically the exact same things after seeing her 35 long years later in 2016! She rocked, she was gracious and she was kind. She gave a warm and caring shout out to our (Canadian) Micheal J. Fox. She was concerned when bouncers were overdoing it with a drunk guy who climbed on stage. She made it clear they needed to dial it back. It was humble and kind, exactly as you say.
Joan's one of those rare creatures, a decent caring unasuming human being. She is without question the greatest rock n roll goddess ever. Only when she is gone will her genius be recognised. I adore her.
I met Joan back when she was filming the first Runaways movie (with Peter Noone) that was never released. I came down to the Whisky on Sunset, hoping to be an extra. I think they were not needing anybody else by the time I arrived. Dejected, I went around back, and sat on a pipe railing by myself... trying to figure out how to get an autograph. After a little while, the back door opens, and Joan walks out for a cigarette break. There's no one in the parking lot but me, and she comes right up and sits next to me on the railing. She pulls out a smoke, and says "How's it goin', man?". What are the odds? I thought I was going to faint - but held it together for the five minutes we talked. Joan was so chill, considering she didn't know me at all. I was just some dude sitting out in back of the club. And, I got that autograph...!
In 88' Joan played at Norfolk navy base. She came out after the show. It was freezing cold. She signed my sailors cap. Was so nice. It was so cold but she came out anyway. One of my favorite memories
I ran sound for a wedding where Joan attended, (circa 94) she also sang a couple of songs. I remember her to be a very nice person who engaged me in conversation while on the buffet line.
I got to meet Joan years ago at University of Lowell, killing time before her gig there. She was kind, approachable and sincere. I remember it because it surprised me how this absolute rock icon could have joined my group of friends and fit right in. She is the real deal, a rock star and a really cool (and very different) person too. Can't say enough nice things about her.
When I was a teenager, me and some friends used to pick up some work as extra labor at concerts. It was a great deal. We got paid 3 bucks an hour... a fortune for a teenager in those days... and you got to "see" the show for free. Well, at least what one could see from backstage, at least. More like hear it. The really big bonus though, was the big stars you got to see, or even talk to sometimes. Anyway, 1981 I think it was, Joan's outfit was touring with J. Geils and we'd just finished setting up, sound checks were done and we were just napping and relaxing waiting for the show when who walks out back with 3 pizzas and a case of Coke but Joan herself! She greeted us all, thanked us for our work and sat with us and chatted while we ate. Boy, that pizza sure hit the spot but what really impressed us, and what I've remembered until this very day, was how Joan Jett thought enough of us lowly gear haulers to bring some food out to us and chat with us for a while. And she wanted to talk about us, not herself. I always respected her for that. That was over 40 years ago and what kind of person is she today? How did she get along with other people? You know, I have no way of knowing that but all I can say is how special we all felt that she was so cool with us when she probably had a ton of other shit to do. She didn't have to do that, she wanted to. Those special few minutes of kindness will always stay with me.
Awe, what a special memory! Thanks so much for sharing that. I am impressed too, cause I imagine that wasn't typical. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it probably wasn't what most of the other musicians you met did. She seems to just be genuinely thoughtful and generous, which is not an easy thing to be in such a me, me, me world we live in.
@@storybellz It wasn't typical at all. I'd say out of every 10 "stars" we'd see, we'd perhaps get a nod or a "hello" out of maybe 1 or 2 and at most, 1 in 20 would come talk to us. I remember thinking at the time that they were all a bunch of stuck-ups but over the years I've realized they were just incredibly busy and had an enormous amount of demands on their time. Set-up / sound check is easily the most hectic and chaotic part of any tour stop and nobody has any time for small talk. And the other thing was that none of these people knew us. We didn't travel with the show. We were just local kids that the promoter hired to help lug gear and load the trucks. But these stars are all just people too and sometimes they just want to get away from it all and be with real people for even a few minutes if they can.
I can’t help thinking this great story is simply who she is. And anyone who’s bitched about her over the years has been incapable of keeping up with her no-BS work ethic and drive, simple as that.
@@ahill4642 Perhaps. As I say, I have no way of knowing what kind of person she really is/was with other people because I've never experienced it. I only know what she did for us and how it affected us. The one thing I've come to realize most strongly in the years since is that we fans have a very misguided tendency to believe what we want to believe about these "stars" based on very little reliable information... and that goes both ways. We admire people who we should not and condemn others whom we should not. I think we very often forget that they are people first and foremost and are often under a tremendous amount of pressure and have people moving in and out of their lives on a daily basis who are always trying to pull them in different directions. That can make anyone jaded, bitter and short-tempered yet because of who they are and the high profile they have, one little blow-up can grow into a negative reputation which they can never shed.
It was around 2005, but I dont remember exactly. I was at one of the last vinyl stores in LA (Rockaway in Silverlake) just flipping through stacks when I saw Joan flipping opposite me. She looked up and saw me mouth agape, eyes wide looking at her about to say something when she put her fingers to her lips in a shhhhhh gesture, then looked around to see if anyone else noticed. The store was almost empty. I mouthed 'love your work, you rock' and she smiled and mouthed 'thanks'. Moments later she was next to me with a few albums tucked under her arm and asked 'what do you have?. I showed my picks and she and I talked about music for several minutes. She was genuinely interested in my music choices and why I liked this band or that, and even gave a few suggestions. I had an old Budgie album as one of my choices and we talked about them and Burke Shelley for a couple minutes. Then she said take care and that was it. Living in LA my whole life I have run into musicians, movie and tv people and pro athletes from time to time. Joan was so down to earth and engaging, it still trips me out today
Sounds to me like she was someone who cared about the bands. But just got caught up with bad management like Elvis. It happens to alot of famous people.
Kim Fowley was a real POS as The Runaways’ manager and as a human being. Too bad he was never held accountable for all the crap he did while he was alive. On the other hand, LA radio DJ and Fowley crony Rodney Binghamheimer is still around and should be arrested for the decades of predatory behavior and abuses he committed. Don’t care if Rodney’s an old man or that people still hold him up as some kind of celebrity, he should rot in prison.
As a member of a band for years I can tell you it’s like family. There’s feuds and cliques plus you do everything together it can get rough sometimes. Long term members are bonded to each other some never really fit in. However there is a love there even if they drive you crazy 🤪
@@thrillcker68 You are correct. That explains why many bands make reunion albums or go on tour again. If it’s not for the fam, then it’s for the money.
Every show of Joan's that I've been to (over 200 so far), she always introduced as "We are the Blackhearts!". Never put herself above any of the other band members. She's awesome.
Joan Jett has more talent in her little finger than Lita Ford has in her whole body. I think the real reason the Runaways never reunited was because Ford is jealous and intimidated by Jett.
joan was definitely a better talent then lita when it came to music ,you still joans music even in film it holds up and dont sound dated .lita ford's music does when i see and here her i think 80's, and iam sorry i never cared for that duet she did with ozzy actually always hated it or atleast would change the station plus not that its a negative but lita had to use other assets to sale her music and image. i get it if it works for you and your fine with it go ahead but iam just saying if her music was that good she would not have to
Man talent wise they are peers. But Joan has star quality that Lita lacks , and Joan is very kind whereas Lita is a bitch. Her family does not talk to her any more. Is Lita jealous? Sure.
Joan had three hits with the Blackhearts. Two were remakes. She had only one original hit. She is talented and a great entertainer but doesn't belong in the RRHOF. She was a marginal act in the early 80's.
Sandy's death is the real reason why a Runaways reunion never happened. She was the glue that kept the big personalities around her grounded and connected.
@@hhale well, actually runaways reunions would have happened, but Lita put a stop to it in the late 90s. She's the real reason why runways reunions never happened, because once that bad blood was stirred up again, there was no reason for Joan to ever look back on it after that.
@@storybellz In the late 90s Lita was a large part of it, but my sense is that if they had put Sandy in the room with Lita and Joan, she might have persuaded them to bury the hatchet. I don't think the three of them were ever in the same room together after the Runaways broke up.
@@hhale Not physically in the same room perhaps, but in the 1990s when Lita screwed up the prospective reunion (which was set to launch a new album AND a whole tour), they were all on conference call together at least. Kenny and Joan were so into it, that it was going to lead to a whole new Runaways era! Kenny already had the album deal and tour planned. Lita was so selfish and foolish that day, she spoiled it for everyone. And now she says Joan should say yes to a reunion again. But to Joan, you mess things up once, all the more reason for her not to trust you again. So, even though at first, I was like everyone else who thinks Joan is just being stubborn. But now it's finally clicked with me. Joan isn't being selfish or stubborn, she's being smart.
I met Lita and her manager at a comic con. She seemed really nice and she’s still very beautiful, but conversation turned to a Orianthi and she and her manger were really dissing her playing - this was about 12-14 years or so ago when Orianthi was still very young and just becoming known. I thought it was distasteful - almost like they were jealous of Orianthi, it was weird to hear them both go on and on about a young female guitar player. Orianthi was working hard to get somewhere and was very humble back in those days. Lita seemed jealous and not very supportive. It was a turn off. Why would an older established female guitar player dis on a new upcoming talent. It was weird.
I must say I like Lita because she pulled no punches. However, you're right that it is distasteful to diss another player. That's why I like Joan Jett the most of all, because she's so supportive of the younger people coming up, and of everybody no matter what their age. Joan is just a very motherly woman in general, she mother's people. It doesn't matter whether you're younger or older than her, she literally mother the people she loves. It's beautiful.
My impression about Lita, due to all acconts and this you mention, is that she's simply too competitive, and competitive people are not always nice, even rarely. Too bad about it, as she's a legit Rock icon, but I guess it's all part of being Human, and therefore flawed.
Joan has worked tirelessly from being a young teenage girl for nearly the next 5 decades to be a serious musician, to bring her music to the people and to kick open doors for women to have the opportunity to perform their music on their own terms. Lots of female artists owe their position to Joan. Its a shame that Joan and Lita dont see eye to eye anymore but i think that is more to do with Lita's feelings than Joan's. A little envy perhaps? A beautiful woman, inside and out. Fully deserving of the Rock and roll icon status and an inspiration. Proof that if you want it, you have to go out and work for it and if you are good enough, you will get it.
@@rickyparker9168 In many ways i agree (i love Stevie and the Mac) but they are completely different performers in different genres and Stevie was part of a group as opposed to an individual performer as could be said the same for the likes of Debbie Harry (who again, i adore) and many other female artists that performed as part of a group. Joan was different because after the first all female hard rock group (The Runaways) disbanded that she fronted, alone and without mainstream backing, Joan set about opening doors for the female artist to be recognised as rock n roll'ers in their own right, and succeeded. This is why Joan Jett has the honour of the titles as "The Queen of rock n roll" and "The Godmother of Punk". What Joan did for the music industry and female artists in particular, is Priceless! Worth far more than record sales or 'shocking' behaviour. She gave women the right to be taken seriously by the music industry as rock and roll artists.
@@neilbriggs5292 Neil Stevie Nicks has had a solo career since 1981 when she released Bella Donna which went to number #1 and went platinum. She then released The Wild Heart which also went platinum then Rock a little which went platinum too. All her subsequent albums after that either went platinum or Gold. Do your research. Stevie did this for years and is still doing it while also being a member of Fleetwood Mac. She also put out a box set album in 1998 called Enchanted with a lot of rare cuts that had never previously been released. She also was the first woman to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame TWICE! No easy feat. In 1981 she was on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine with the words Stevie Nicks Queen of Rock and she STILL is to this day. Don't get me wrong I LOVE Joan Jett! She Rocks but even with all her accomplishments she still pales in comparison to the accolades Stevie Nicks has achieved. Joan is definitely in the top twenty of female rockers. Others I would put in that club are Janis Joplin Pat Benatar Tina Turner Grace Slick Ann Wilson Patti Smith Deborah Harry Patty Smythe Bekka Bramlett Cherie Currie etc.
One of my heroes! Joan makes music that I love. I named my cat after her. Meeting her and talking about music is on my list of coolest things I'd like to do!
Its hard enough to keep a group together for a semester to finish a school project let alone multiple world tours. Its a miracle when a band stays together. Bands like the stones and the eagles are so rare.
Funny you should bring that movie up. It was filmed at the college bar i used to hang out at- Euclid Tavern in Cleveland. Thats why i remember Joan Jett otherwise i didnt know too much about her. Seems like just l7ke in the movie shes kinda a bar band rock star.
I always loved the way she did her eye liner and make up. We all tried to copy it in High School.(Great time to be a teenager, that's for sure!) So cool to have a guitar playing rock star for someone to idolize. We had real power women in those days, Par Benatar included. Princess Diana got married and every young girl and teen to 20 yr old girls adored her. It was a magical time.
I saw Joan Jett in concert in 2016. She rocked as hard as ever, looking and sounding fabulous. Her new album at the time was excellent. She gave a warm and caring shout out to our (Canadian) Micheal J. Fox whom she had toured with a little at one point and made a movie with. She was concerned when bouncers were overdoing it with a drunk guy who climbed on stage during the concert, making it clear to them she felt they needed to dial it back. Humble, kind, talented, fabulous.
My sister and brother in law won a visit with Joan before a show and they were very impressed with how personable she was.She gave them a CD and they enjoyed meeting her.My partner and I were jealous!
@@rayjohnson2387 Hello from Westfield , Ind :: You're right. The Vogue was Standing Room only during the show.... But my Bro and I had a small table that 2 or 3 people could stand around , up front on the left side of the stage. So how the table was placed , it would've been like the second row. But I've only there twice. First time was J.J.'s show , and the other time was some kinda Motown dance thing with my Cousin and some of her friends. And that time I was up on the second floor having drinks. I'm a drinker , not a Dancer..🤮 Stay safe and Focused out there .. 🦅🇺🇸🦅
@charlesbrown6072 The Vogue had tons of good shows back then...saw Henry Lee there many times...The Ramones...Meatloaf....Nazareth even played there...saw Joan at Deercreek opening for Aerosmith in 89 or 90 I think...she must have been having an off night...didn't sound good at all
@@rayjohnson2387 saw loads of shows at The Vogue which is still in Broadripple to this day. X, Smithereens, Stray Cats and my favorite show there Izzy Stradlin & The Ju Ju Hounds!
Joan is THE BEST! I've seen her many times through the years. She is the QUEEN OF ROCK!! She still has so much energy & puts everything into her shows. 🔥
@@lynnehuff9659 Stevie Nick's is in the Hall of fame as a member of Fleetwood Mac and as herself. No women can touch her, zPeriod3 .sorry to hear that you don't know about the Queen of Rock. No question about that, Period!
About 7 years ago, we went to see lita play a club on Long Island. She came out 3 hours late. I left after waiting for an hour. The club actually gave me my money back for the ticket(which wasn’t much,lol). I heard lita didn’t even apologize for her lateness. Normally I wouldn’t go see lita ford, but the venue was about 2 miles from my apartment. At this point, you couldn’t pay me to see her lame ass.
I met Joan Jett in 2002, in Qandahar, Afghanistan. It was big PR: cameras, journalists, high ranking soldiers, etc. I was there to meet her, chosen by my chain of command, because, even though I’m a drummer, I knew I had to be without my drums for 6 months, but not my guitar and amp. Yes, both my guitar and amp, with immense thanks to my chaplain who offered space in his personal connex to bring it. I say the whole 25min-ish meeting was all very surreal. With one exception. Joan Jett simply seemed so polished, socially with me, that it simply felt like I never got to meet the real Joan Jett. She wasn’t fake, she just has done it a million times and I felt like their was this huge bubble, or facade, or barrier of expertise that kept me from feeling like it was really a real Joan Jett person in front of me, and not a super-agreeable job candidate at an interview.
I've watched three teenage daughters and their friends growing up for many years... When you add the Runaways mix of creative disputes and wish for success, you should never be surprised that there were emotional disputes and high drama... I'm a member of a Progressive rock group of five "adult" male musicians which started in 1992. We can generate teenage temper tantrums at the slightest provocation...
🖤 Joan’s a powerhouse. As kickass today as she ever was. “A force to be reckoned with”…? I should think so, and surely that’s been the case all the way up! You don’t get to be as good as she still is in the fickle, male-dominated, ever-changing world of rock music all these years later if you’re not. I imagine that the band members who were capable of leaving their egos at the door and working as hard as she always has have had incredible and rewarding experience with her. The rest need not have applied. 🖤
Lita Ford quit because everybody in the band except Jackie was gay. She did come back after that but when she initially quit, that was the reason. She said she didn't know how to deal with it, so she left.
@@ITIsFunnyDamnIT actually she admitted to being a lesbian in 2018, in the New York Times article. She admitted it, but just didn't say the words. And in fact she said The more you want me to say it, the more I won't say it, I'll just show it. And I think I declare everyday, loud. To prove that she is a lesbian, she showed her tattoo and mentioned that she sings Crimson and Clover- and she was basically irritated that some people still haven't figured it out.
@@storybellz Started working as a union stagehand in '95. I don't remember the show but a group of us were setting up the lights with the road crew chatting as we do while we worked and the subject of Joan Jett came up. One of the local guys wondered if she was really gay when one of the road crew on the tour-a woman named Elvis (yes, really) snorted and said something to the effect that Joan has a different woman in every town. An embellishment I'm sure and maybe a bit of jealousy there but no, it seems she'll never outright admit it. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Be Joan, Joan and be happy with who you are. But, of course, guys like us never stood a chance 😞
I heard Joan in an interview several years ago admit to being bisexual ... "giving equal opportunity to both sexes" but with a leaning toward the girls/women.
Yes, that's very true. The all-girl bands don't last as long as the all-male bands. It's nature ... get a bunch of women together, especially in a work-related situation, and the claws will come out every time. The backbiting and backstabbing are unbelievable.
Respect and admiration - I've been playing and singing in bands for near 50 years and apart from that 2 hours on stage it's a real grind. It's like people hear - I play in a band - just that 'play' ...and what's your day job? they ask ..It's hard work and when it's right on the night there's nothing better then 'playing' in a band and JJ was doing it at 16. Awesome.
Come on, man. Joan is imperfect like all of us but has become an enduring star. She was wasted a lot in the early years -- it was the 70s. She overcame that. Lita Ford is an enduringly hot mess.
I really liked their movie as well. It was right on the money and Michael Shannon played the part of that sleaze bag to perfection. Lita Ford is a jerk.
I've sometimes wondered how many rock n roll " managers" in the past have been the reason bands and friendships have not lasted, I. E., Sharon osbourne.
Honestly it sounds like Joan Jett is a real person and loves the stage but doesn't crave the attention to her personal life. She sounds like a professional musician that respects all of her band member and she listens to and values their opinions. Maybe she's just a little shy. My opinion tells me she's a warm person that doesn't need other peoples approval. Salute Joan.
I love Joan Jett....not only is she extremely sexy she's also an extremely talented musician and writer. I've always had a crush on her since I was a kid in the 80's...I was always saying how beautiful she is and she is a very beautiful woman and has been since day one. I would love to see her live that's one thing I haven't gotten to do and I'm definitely going to go see her this year if she's back on the road. Joan Jett is a badass woman and she always will be....love you Mrs Joan Jett.
Anyone who has anything less than nice to say about Joan that has worked with her is jealous. It's funny how Cherie is now against the way The Runaways copyright was organized, but back when Kenny was reaching out and helping her, she was all for it. She's only interested in herself. Anytime she doesn't get her way, suddenly it's victim city. Joan Jett is one classy broad, way too good for most of these people. You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone in the world more loyal and with more integrity than her. It's a shame that some of her disgruntled bandmates and ex employees don't have the same decency.
Anyone who says anything bad about her is usually just bad themselves- and the truth of that WILL come out! Haters gonna hate, but their jealousy is clear. Eat your heart out, babies (you know who you are!) Joan RULES!
Kim Fowley, what a creep. He was Skip Batten's songwriting partner in the Byrds and they did write some great songs but I suspected there was something weird about him then and this video confirms it. My heart goes out to that girl.
TLDR version....The Runaways didn't get along personally but functioned as a band. Those that worked with her during her solo days loved her, she was great to be around on a professional and personal level but couldn't keep up with her constant touring.
I used to have a crush on Joan. Loved the movie she made with MJF. She always seemed down to earth to me. Disappointed to find out she gay. But still love her energy.
Joan Jett was amazing when I saw her live, back in 87' The band even did several covers and sounded great on them. I stood about 20 yards from her and thought she looked very sexy. My wife at that time found her show to be amazing too. I sure miss the nostalgia of the 80's. Everything was way better back then.
I think that a Runaway reunion would’ve been great in like, 1991 or 1992 with Lita Ford slowly coming off the popularity of her heavy Metal band. It would’ve been great to have a two hour show of Runaway song with both Joan Jett and Lita Ford song being played as well. It’s quite clear that Lita and Joan were like water and oil. But any re-union before 2008 before Sandy West passed away would’ve been nice. It’s kind of to bad.
I saw her in a long interview. She was thoughtful, intelligent, polite, insightful about music, and not arrogant. I guess you need this headline to get our attention. Worked with me!
She was bisexual earlier in her life, but she might be full-blown lesbian now??? Either way, she's a hottie and if she is bisexual/lesbian then that just makes her even hotter.
Joan Jett is certainly ,absoloutley-One in a billion! Cannot be Copied An Original one of a kind,Those eyes and all the facial expressions. Does that make sense? I love Joan Jett!
Jackie Fox quit the Runaways and was shocked they didn't miss a gig and Joan filled in on bass. Jackie trash talked Jett for 30 years and only after Fowley died did she make the accusations. I don't believe her, I think she was jealous and sad and felt like she made a mistake quoting music.
I would never victim shame over something like this, but I noticed the same. It also is surprising that someone who was so high they were paralyzed, would be able to see and remember faces in a room full of people. But if the term (rhymes with cape) literally means there was "no consent," then by today's definitions, she was caped by age and by lack of consent.
@@tstan6827 I agree, I just don't understand why she wouldn't have said something sooner being that all the girls trash talked Fowley and said he was a sleazy creep. Hell, they fired him, and were also good about NOT revealing that Jackie didn't play on the first album.
Most everyone wouldn't make a claim like that due to all of these people who say that she made it up. Nobody wants to be a victim. She didn't want the typical backlash that comes from everyone, including women, who should be supportive, and not victim-shaming. It's quite clear that Fowley regularly abused young women.
Saw Joan in concert twice in Amarillo, TX. And both times she p.o. the authorities in town by saying the word F**k in her concert! I thought she was so cool and brilliant. Rock on Joan!!
@@cwheremonster8870 Wrong. Cherry Bomb, Bad Rep, I Hate Myself for Loving You were all hits, all get radio play, and all co-wrote by her. Plus she has written very fine songs on her own too.
She only did TWO covers that anyone outside her own fanbase talks about, and those are I LOVE RnR and CRIMSON AND CLOVER. Just 2! By contrast, she has three originals that are all over movies, TV, and radio- I HATE MYSELF FOR LOVING YOU, BAD REP, and CHERRY BOMB, all of which, she c-wrote. She has also written many a fine song on her own as-well, including TMI, Takeover, My Buddy and Me, Reality Mentality, and others. Plus, it was one of her own original songs (HATE MYSELF) that was adapted for the Sunday Night Football theme. So, you are really underestimating her.
@@storybellz and Bad Reputation is one of my favourite songs, Cherry Bomb is up there too. Even if she’d only had hits with covers she owned them. Fantastic voice and presence.
I saw the Runaways in 75? I think Michelle Steel later of the Bengals was the bassist. They played with a chip on their shoulder. It was raw. I saw Joan in 88 she was awesome! I loved her I love RnR which was one of the best Covers to ever make it but it was I hate myself for loving you which was and still is my all time favorite songs from Joan...
As an outsider, it sure seems to me like Lita Ford is the problem, not Joan Jett. And most likely it has to do with jealousy. Joan Jett has had a far greater career than Lita Ford. Lita definitely has some talent and put out a few good records, But nothing like the level of success that Joan Jett has had. And I’m sure it has bothered her. And she’s clearly unable to put her ego aside for the rest of the band. That’s how it seems to me anyway. But again of course, I’m on the outside looking in. But it seems like some of the other members of the Runaways also think the problem is with Lita, not Joan
I feel like Lita Ford was decently popular in the late 80s for that short time but is a little butt hurt because she gets no real attention like Joan and Cherie does so she creates attention. I could be wrong but I’ve always heard Joan was a pretty cool person. I saw her back in the mid/late 90s and they were a good band, I mean she’s Joan Jett. I’m not sure I’d want to see a Runaways reunion though, stuff like that depresses me.
She really appreciated her fans held the door for people leaving shows her roadies were very disrespectful back then women really has fight harder then dudes
She'll never let anyone know or see exactly how deep the breakup of the Runaways hurt her. I dont think she ever got over it. PAST it,yes,but definitely not over it.
You can never go back..back in time..when you let time go by it's the greatest waste of anything..time isn't something you can get more of......buy more of..you get 1 shot...
I’m the same age as those women (I almost typed girls). I remember when they were at their height. They made you feel like all those nights of dancing and singing into your hairbrush, in front of a mirror, could come true. As the years have passed I’ve read about their different opinions of those times. It seems to me, that most of their memories or opinions of Joan are the same…except for Lita’s. I’ve always wondered if maybe she was just a little jealous that Joan was the one who got most of the accolades. They were all talented in their own way, but Joan was the star of that band. There’s no denying it. You have to remember they were teenagers. Their minds were still forming at that time no matter how talented they were. As far as Fowley is concerned, he definitely was a weirdo, but he knew what he had when he put them together. His obsession for teenage girls would never fly in today’s world. He is even mentioned in Dianne Lake’s (the youngest of the Manson girls) book. She had an encounter with him at 14 years old. I bet if asked, if they had it to do over again, they all would.
That's not true. She has three of her own hits that she co-wrote, including Cherry bomb, hate myself for loving you, and bad reputation - all hits that are included in movies and TV, as well as video games and other media. So, you really don't know much about her career, and those who don't know much have no right to criticize, and if you learn more, you wouldn't want to criticize. Food for thought. In addition to that, just so you know, she's written and co-written over 130 songs.
Her long-time manager was involved in the production or recording of lots of the oldies that she likes to cover, and she enjoys performing great songs whether she wrote them or not. So what do you care?
No offense, but why does everybody keep ragging on Lita here in the comments section? Remember, Lita isn't the one that left the runaways, Lita isn't the one that lied to Joan, Lita isn't the one that broke her heart by pretending to love her on every level, and then throwing her under the bus. That's Cherie Currie. They've all been problematic, but nobody has hurt Joan more than Cherie, yet, she's fooled her Joan hating fans to think that it's the other way around, to think that Joan hurt her. That's a laugh! She's a real disappointment and more than anything, an insincere and dangerous backstabber.
I have a healthy crush "still" on Miss Jett... She can be 98 years old and I still would!🤗more than just looks!!!... Attitude,tanacity,,,the fact she plays electric guitar with the way she moves her body. And her punkrock look,is very appealing to me!!!!..... Ok..."enough outta me"!!!
Joan Jett is an icon...the shit she had to go through to succeed is unbelievable. The fact that "Uncle Ted" was pissed off because she was on a list of best guitarist...those list are Arguable. Does not mean she's not good.He should have been happy for her.insread he crapped on her.I think "Unclr Ted needs an enema.Long live Joan Jett.
Lita Ford is the better guitarist between her and Jett. However "Joan Jett land" seems to be about Lita being Jealous that Joan Jett has a successful solo career.
@@rickyparker9168 think about it Sherry Curry was only 15 years old if it wasn’t for the runaways like you said all those other acts wouldn’t come to be look at the Donna’s perfect example to runaways paved the way should be inducted in the rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame
@@jamescarriere8478 Heart started in the music business in the early 70s and Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham we're opening for acts like Jimi Hendrix Janis Joplin and Santana in the late 60s so that was a few years before Joan Jett came on the scene.
What do you think of Joan Jett?
Her musical talent matches her beauty. Or vice-versa. She was so cute as a young girl, OMG...
There's so much I think of Joan Jett I can't even begin. She is absolutely wonderful
I met her a long time ago and she was very friendly and down to earth.
Great singer not a great person.
@@katherineknapp4370 Where are you getting that she's not a great person?
I met Joan at an airport once. I said hi as she was passing by. She stopped, flashed that awesome smile and took time to talk with me. She was so nice. My sister works for an airline. She says Joan and the band are always so gracious and kind to the fans.
Oh man! I've only been to an airport maybe twice in my life, for two trips, and I would have died to randomly meet her! Although, I say nothing is really random, You Were Meant to meet her, and how beautiful that was!
I met her at an airport too on her I love rnr tour didn't take my camera for some idiotic reason
I met her at a bath house glory hole back in '88
I met her at a very small show years ago & she was shy but gracious.
I've heard a few stories over the years of people seeing or meeting Joan Jett at airports. She must fly commercial airlines alone a lot.
I saw Joan Jett at the Texas Jam in 1982. She was so gracious and gave lots of praise to her band The Blackhearts. Wasn't really a fan but that sure struck me as a humble, kind gal.
I could say practically the exact same things after seeing her 35 long years later in 2016! She rocked, she was gracious and she was kind. She gave a warm and caring shout out to our (Canadian) Micheal J. Fox. She was concerned when bouncers were overdoing it with a drunk guy who climbed on stage. She made it clear they needed to dial it back. It was humble and kind, exactly as you say.
Joan's one of those rare creatures, a decent caring unasuming human being.
She is without question the greatest rock n roll goddess ever.
Only when she is gone will her genius be recognised.
I adore her.
“The Texas Jam” sounds like something explicit. As in, “I gave your sister The Texas Jam last night”. Hahahaha
@@smelltheglove2038 With a name like Smell The Glove you'd likely see that explicit connection, sir.
@@xpicklepie you shoulda seen my original name, it wasn’t a glove, let me tell ya.
Jett is a BALLER. I never saw someone sweat out a 2 hour set with so much passion for the music. Nothing but good things to say about her.
I met Joan back when she was filming the first Runaways movie (with Peter Noone) that was never released. I came down to the Whisky on Sunset, hoping to be an extra. I think they were not needing anybody else by the time I arrived. Dejected, I went around back, and sat on a pipe railing by myself... trying to figure out how to get an autograph. After a little while, the back door opens, and Joan walks out for a cigarette break. There's no one in the parking lot but me, and she comes right up and sits next to me on the railing. She pulls out a smoke, and says "How's it goin', man?". What are the odds? I thought I was going to faint - but held it together for the five minutes we talked. Joan was so chill, considering she didn't know me at all. I was just some dude sitting out in back of the club. And, I got that autograph...!
That's a great memory! The pipe railing is still there LOL
Cool, but joan doesn't smoke!! Never did. 🤔
In 88' Joan played at Norfolk navy base. She came out after the show. It was freezing cold. She signed my sailors cap. Was so nice. It was so cold but she came out anyway. One of my favorite memories
I ran sound for a wedding where Joan attended, (circa 94) she also sang a couple of songs. I remember her to be a very nice person who engaged me in conversation while on the buffet line.
Cool! Whose wedding was it, and do you remember what Joan got from the buffet line?
Nice! ☺️
@@storybellz beef stroganoff
@@2beJT Nice try, but at that time, Joan was primarily vegetarian. She would have gotten fish, if anything flesh.
You scored, big time!
I got to meet Joan years ago at University of Lowell, killing time before her gig there. She was kind, approachable and sincere. I remember it because it surprised me how this absolute rock icon could have joined my group of friends and fit right in. She is the real deal, a rock star and a really cool (and very different) person too. Can't say enough nice things about her.
I saw her at ULowell in October 1989!!!!! Was it that show???🖤
@@joanjettboy Probably. I think she only did the one show.
I read somewhere that she played there in 1987 as well. Crazy!!!🖤🖤🖤🖤
@@joanjettboy For my experience, 1987 sounds more likely. Crazy someone so famous did gigs at colleges.
Awesome! She still puts on a killer show!!!🖤
When I was a teenager, me and some friends used to pick up some work as extra labor at concerts. It was a great deal. We got paid 3 bucks an hour... a fortune for a teenager in those days... and you got to "see" the show for free. Well, at least what one could see from backstage, at least. More like hear it. The really big bonus though, was the big stars you got to see, or even talk to sometimes.
Anyway, 1981 I think it was, Joan's outfit was touring with J. Geils and we'd just finished setting up, sound checks were done and we were just napping and relaxing waiting for the show when who walks out back with 3 pizzas and a case of Coke but Joan herself!
She greeted us all, thanked us for our work and sat with us and chatted while we ate. Boy, that pizza sure hit the spot but what really impressed us, and what I've remembered until this very day, was how Joan Jett thought enough of us lowly gear haulers to bring some food out to us and chat with us for a while. And she wanted to talk about us, not herself. I always respected her for that.
That was over 40 years ago and what kind of person is she today? How did she get along with other people? You know, I have no way of knowing that but all I can say is how special we all felt that she was so cool with us when she probably had a ton of other shit to do. She didn't have to do that, she wanted to. Those special few minutes of kindness will always stay with me.
Awe, what a special memory! Thanks so much for sharing that. I am impressed too, cause I imagine that wasn't typical. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it probably wasn't what most of the other musicians you met did. She seems to just be genuinely thoughtful and generous, which is not an easy thing to be in such a me, me, me world we live in.
@@storybellz It wasn't typical at all. I'd say out of every 10 "stars" we'd see, we'd perhaps get a nod or a "hello" out of maybe 1 or 2 and at most, 1 in 20 would come talk to us.
I remember thinking at the time that they were all a bunch of stuck-ups but over the years I've realized they were just incredibly busy and had an enormous amount of demands on their time. Set-up / sound check is easily the most hectic and chaotic part of any tour stop and nobody has any time for small talk.
And the other thing was that none of these people knew us. We didn't travel with the show. We were just local kids that the promoter hired to help lug gear and load the trucks. But these stars are all just people too and sometimes they just want to get away from it all and be with real people for even a few minutes if they can.
I can’t help thinking this great story is simply who she is. And anyone who’s bitched about her over the years has been incapable of keeping up with her no-BS work ethic and drive, simple as that.
@@ahill4642 Perhaps. As I say, I have no way of knowing what kind of person she really is/was with other people because I've never experienced it. I only know what she did for us and how it affected us.
The one thing I've come to realize most strongly in the years since is that we fans have a very misguided tendency to believe what we want to believe about these "stars" based on very little reliable information... and that goes both ways. We admire people who we should not and condemn others whom we should not.
I think we very often forget that they are people first and foremost and are often under a tremendous amount of pressure and have people moving in and out of their lives on a daily basis who are always trying to pull them in different directions. That can make anyone jaded, bitter and short-tempered yet because of who they are and the high profile they have, one little blow-up can grow into a negative reputation which they can never shed.
It was around 2005, but I dont remember exactly. I was at one of the last vinyl stores in LA (Rockaway in Silverlake) just flipping through stacks when I saw Joan flipping opposite me. She looked up and saw me mouth agape, eyes wide looking at her about to say something when she put her fingers to her lips in a shhhhhh gesture, then looked around to see if anyone else noticed. The store was almost empty. I mouthed 'love your work, you rock' and she smiled and mouthed 'thanks'. Moments later she was next to me with a few albums tucked under her arm and asked 'what do you have?. I showed my picks and she and I talked about music for several minutes. She was genuinely interested in my music choices and why I liked this band or that, and even gave a few suggestions. I had an old Budgie album as one of my choices and we talked about them and Burke Shelley for a couple minutes. Then she said take care and that was it. Living in LA my whole life I have run into musicians, movie and tv people and pro athletes from time to time. Joan was so down to earth and engaging, it still trips me out today
Sounds to me like she was someone who cared about the bands. But just got caught up with bad management like Elvis. It happens to alot of famous people.
Joan seems like a natural leader, down to Earth but very serious about the band
Kim Fowley was a real POS as The Runaways’ manager and as a human being. Too bad he was never held accountable for all the crap he did while he was alive. On the other hand, LA radio DJ and Fowley crony Rodney Binghamheimer is still around and should be arrested for the decades of predatory behavior and abuses he committed. Don’t care if Rodney’s an old man or that people still hold him up as some kind of celebrity, he should rot in prison.
As a member of a band for years I can tell you it’s like family. There’s feuds and cliques plus you do everything together it can get rough sometimes. Long term members are bonded to each other some never really fit in. However there is a love there even if they drive you crazy 🤪
@@thrillcker68 You are correct. That explains why many bands make reunion albums or go on tour again. If it’s not for the fam, then it’s for the money.
Not 100% sure, but I think Kenny Laguna was a good manager and I think because he totally believed in her, she had/has loyalty towards him
Every show of Joan's that I've been to (over 200 so far), she always introduced as "We are the Blackhearts!". Never put herself above any of the other band members. She's awesome.
Joan Jett was so damn beautiful. I remember that video Crimson and Clover in the early 80s and I was crushing hard on her as a kid.
Joan Jett has more talent in her little finger than Lita Ford has in her whole body. I think the real reason the Runaways never reunited was because Ford is jealous and intimidated by Jett.
I never liked Lita Ford, She is indeed jealous of Joan's talent and success.
joan was definitely a better talent then lita when it came to music ,you still joans music even in film it holds up and dont sound dated .lita ford's music does when i see and here her i think 80's, and iam sorry i never cared for that duet she did with ozzy actually always hated it or atleast would change the station plus not that its a negative but lita had to use other assets to sale her music and image. i get it if it works for you and your fine with it go ahead but iam just saying if her music was that good she would not have to
Lita always had a cool look but she seems like an ass. Doesn't have the beauty or charisma of Joan
Man talent wise they are peers. But Joan has star quality that Lita lacks , and Joan is very kind whereas Lita is a bitch. Her family does not talk to her any more. Is Lita jealous? Sure.
Joan had three hits with the Blackhearts. Two were remakes. She had only one original hit. She is talented and a great entertainer but doesn't belong in the RRHOF. She was a marginal act in the early 80's.
Sandy West is the often unsung hero of The Runaways. She was a great drummer and had a unique sound that very few drummers possess.
Amen!
Sandy's death is the real reason why a Runaways reunion never happened. She was the glue that kept the big personalities around her grounded and connected.
@@hhale well, actually runaways reunions would have happened, but Lita put a stop to it in the late 90s. She's the real reason why runways reunions never happened, because once that bad blood was stirred up again, there was no reason for Joan to ever look back on it after that.
@@storybellz In the late 90s Lita was a large part of it, but my sense is that if they had put Sandy in the room with Lita and Joan, she might have persuaded them to bury the hatchet. I don't think the three of them were ever in the same room together after the Runaways broke up.
@@hhale Not physically in the same room perhaps, but in the 1990s when Lita screwed up the prospective reunion (which was set to launch a new album AND a whole tour), they were all on conference call together at least. Kenny and Joan were so into it, that it was going to lead to a whole new Runaways era! Kenny already had the album deal and tour planned. Lita was so selfish and foolish that day, she spoiled it for everyone. And now she says Joan should say yes to a reunion again. But to Joan, you mess things up once, all the more reason for her not to trust you again. So, even though at first, I was like everyone else who thinks Joan is just being stubborn. But now it's finally clicked with me. Joan isn't being selfish or stubborn, she's being smart.
I met Lita and her manager at a comic con. She seemed really nice and she’s still very beautiful, but conversation turned to a Orianthi and she and her manger were really dissing her playing - this was about 12-14 years or so ago when Orianthi was still very young and just becoming known. I thought it was distasteful - almost like they were jealous of Orianthi, it was weird to hear them both go on and on about a young female guitar player. Orianthi was working hard to get somewhere and was very humble back in those days. Lita seemed jealous and not very supportive. It was a turn off. Why would an older established female guitar player dis on a new upcoming talent. It was weird.
I must say I like Lita because she pulled no punches. However, you're right that it is distasteful to diss another player. That's why I like Joan Jett the most of all, because she's so supportive of the younger people coming up, and of everybody no matter what their age. Joan is just a very motherly woman in general, she mother's people. It doesn't matter whether you're younger or older than her, she literally mother the people she loves. It's beautiful.
It's funny to think of Lita dissing someone on how they play guitar.
She's really nothing special herself.
Because Lita's very over rated and a crappy guitarist. Never liked her.
@@FektthisCorrect. Her solos sound like they were played by a four year old.
My impression about Lita, due to all acconts and this you mention, is that she's simply too competitive, and competitive people are not always nice, even rarely. Too bad about it, as she's a legit Rock icon, but I guess it's all part of being Human, and therefore flawed.
I love Joan Jett!! I remember roller skating at the rink to this song. I miss the 80's. And the 70's. Thank you😊
Ditto! I love RnR, at the roller rink. 😁
@@Nrthmnsplbnd9 , heck yeah!! Those sure were great times. 😊
Joan has worked tirelessly from being a young teenage girl for nearly the next 5 decades to be a serious musician, to bring her music to the people and to kick open doors for women to have the opportunity to perform their music on their own terms. Lots of female artists owe their position to Joan. Its a shame that Joan and Lita dont see eye to eye anymore but i think that is more to do with Lita's feelings than Joan's. A little envy perhaps?
A beautiful woman, inside and out. Fully deserving of the Rock and roll icon status and an inspiration. Proof that if you want it, you have to go out and work for it and if you are good enough, you will get it.
WELL SAID 👍🏽
She's no Stevie Nicks.
@@rickyparker9168 In many ways i agree (i love Stevie and the Mac) but they are completely different performers in different genres and Stevie was part of a group as opposed to an individual performer as could be said the same for the likes of Debbie Harry (who again, i adore) and many other female artists that performed as part of a group.
Joan was different because after the first all female hard rock group (The Runaways) disbanded that she fronted, alone and without mainstream backing, Joan set about opening doors for the female artist to be recognised as rock n roll'ers in their own right, and succeeded. This is why Joan Jett has the honour of the titles as "The Queen of rock n roll" and "The Godmother of Punk".
What Joan did for the music industry and female artists in particular, is Priceless! Worth far more than record sales or 'shocking' behaviour. She gave women the right to be taken seriously by the music industry as rock and roll artists.
@@neilbriggs5292 Neil Stevie Nicks has had a solo career since 1981 when she released Bella Donna which went to number #1 and went platinum. She then released The Wild Heart which also went platinum then Rock a little which went platinum too. All her subsequent albums after that either went platinum or Gold. Do your research. Stevie did this for years and is still doing it while also being a member of Fleetwood Mac. She also put out a box set album in 1998 called Enchanted with a lot of rare cuts that had never previously been released. She also was the first woman to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame TWICE! No easy feat. In 1981 she was on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine with the words Stevie Nicks Queen of Rock and she STILL is to this day. Don't get me wrong I LOVE Joan Jett! She Rocks but even with all her accomplishments she still pales in comparison to the accolades Stevie Nicks has achieved. Joan is definitely in the top twenty of female rockers. Others I would put in that club are Janis Joplin Pat Benatar Tina Turner Grace Slick Ann Wilson Patti Smith Deborah Harry Patty Smythe Bekka Bramlett Cherie Currie etc.
@@neilbriggs5292 Oh Neil I forgot Linda Ronstadt who was also considered the Queen of Rock in the 70s.
Loved and still love Joan Jett. Great player and stage presence.
One of my heroes! Joan makes music that I love. I named my cat after her. Meeting her and talking about music is on my list of coolest things I'd like to do!
Its hard enough to keep a group together for a semester to finish a school project let alone multiple world tours. Its a miracle when a band stays together. Bands like the stones and the eagles are so rare.
Don't forget Joan Jett & Michael J Fox in Light of Day.
Funny you should bring that movie up. It was filmed at the college bar i used to hang out at- Euclid Tavern in Cleveland. Thats why i remember Joan Jett otherwise i didnt know too much about her. Seems like just l7ke in the movie shes kinda a bar band rock star.
I always loved the way she did her eye liner and make up. We all tried to copy it in High School.(Great time to be a teenager, that's for sure!) So cool to have a guitar playing rock star for someone to idolize. We had real power women in those days, Par Benatar included. Princess Diana got married and every young girl and teen to 20 yr old girls adored her. It was a magical time.
Apparently she deliberately used liner that ran she said it looked cool,I agree
I saw Joan Jett in concert in 2016. She rocked as hard as ever, looking and sounding fabulous. Her new album at the time was excellent. She gave a warm and caring shout out to our (Canadian) Micheal J. Fox whom she had toured with a little at one point and made a movie with. She was concerned when bouncers were overdoing it with a drunk guy who climbed on stage during the concert, making it clear to them she felt they needed to dial it back. Humble, kind, talented, fabulous.
My sister and brother in law won a visit with Joan before a show and they were very impressed with how personable she was.She gave them a CD and they enjoyed meeting her.My partner and I were jealous!
Joan Jett epitomizes Rock & Roll to me!
I've always loved her. I saw her back in 1985 or 86 at a club in Indianapolis. Had 2nd row seats and I was in heaven. ❤️
Saw Joan in a club in Charlotte in 86 or 87. I was right next to the stage and maybe four or five feet from here and still taller then her.
The Vogue???...wait...The Vogue didn't really have rows lol
@@rayjohnson2387 Hello from Westfield , Ind :: You're right. The Vogue was Standing Room only during the show.... But my Bro and I had a small table that 2 or 3 people could stand around , up front on the left side of the stage. So how the table was placed , it would've been like the second row. But I've only there twice. First time was J.J.'s show , and the other time was some kinda Motown dance thing with my Cousin and some of her friends. And that time I was up on the second floor having drinks. I'm a drinker , not a Dancer..🤮 Stay safe and Focused out there .. 🦅🇺🇸🦅
@charlesbrown6072 The Vogue had tons of good shows back then...saw Henry Lee there many times...The Ramones...Meatloaf....Nazareth even played there...saw Joan at Deercreek opening for Aerosmith in 89 or 90 I think...she must have been having an off night...didn't sound good at all
@@rayjohnson2387 saw loads of shows at The Vogue which is still in Broadripple to this day. X, Smithereens, Stray Cats and my favorite show there Izzy Stradlin & The Ju Ju Hounds!
Joan is THE BEST! I've seen her many times through the years. She is the QUEEN OF ROCK!! She still has so much energy & puts everything into her shows. 🔥
Joan is good but Stevie Nicks is the Queen of Rock.
I was just going to say the same thing, Stevie is the Queen of rock.
@@jmommy881 Right on!
I like her, not the Queen Of Rock, though
@@lynnehuff9659 Stevie Nick's is in the Hall of fame as a member of Fleetwood Mac and as herself. No women can touch her, zPeriod3 .sorry to hear that you don't know about the Queen of Rock. No question about that, Period!
About 7 years ago, we went to see lita play a club on Long Island. She came out 3 hours late. I left after waiting for an hour. The club actually gave me my money back for the ticket(which wasn’t much,lol). I heard lita didn’t even apologize for her lateness. Normally I wouldn’t go see lita ford, but the venue was about 2 miles from my apartment. At this point, you couldn’t pay me to see her lame ass.
I met Joan Jett in 2002, in Qandahar, Afghanistan. It was big PR: cameras, journalists, high ranking soldiers, etc. I was there to meet her, chosen by my chain of command, because, even though I’m a drummer, I knew I had to be without my drums for 6 months, but not my guitar and amp. Yes, both my guitar and amp, with immense thanks to my chaplain who offered space in his personal connex to bring it.
I say the whole 25min-ish meeting was all very surreal. With one exception. Joan Jett simply seemed so polished, socially with me, that it simply felt like I never got to meet the real Joan Jett. She wasn’t fake, she just has done it a million times and I felt like their was this huge bubble, or facade, or barrier of expertise that kept me from feeling like it was really a real Joan Jett person in front of me, and not a super-agreeable job candidate at an interview.
I've watched three teenage daughters and their friends growing up for many years... When you add the Runaways mix of creative disputes and wish for success, you should never be surprised that there were emotional disputes and high drama... I'm a member of a Progressive rock group of five "adult" male musicians which started in 1992. We can generate teenage temper tantrums at the slightest provocation...
🖤 Joan’s a powerhouse. As kickass today as she ever was. “A force to be reckoned with”…? I should think so, and surely that’s been the case all the way up! You don’t get to be as good as she still is in the fickle, male-dominated, ever-changing world of rock music all these years later if you’re not. I imagine that the band members who were capable of leaving their egos at the door and working as hard as she always has have had incredible and rewarding experience with her. The rest need not have applied. 🖤
Of course she is loveable, but to be considered a great Guitarist over Uncle Ted, the Fix is in!
Lita Ford quit because everybody in the band except Jackie was gay. She did come back after that but when she initially quit, that was the reason. She said she didn't know how to deal with it, so she left.
There's always been rumors about this, but to this day Joan Jett has never admitted or denied being gay. But it's suspected she's bi.
@@ITIsFunnyDamnIT actually she admitted to being a lesbian in 2018, in the New York Times article. She admitted it, but just didn't say the words. And in fact she said The more you want me to say it, the more I won't say it, I'll just show it. And I think I declare everyday, loud. To prove that she is a lesbian, she showed her tattoo and mentioned that she sings Crimson and Clover- and she was basically irritated that some people still haven't figured it out.
@@storybellz Started working as a union stagehand in '95. I don't remember the show but a group of us were setting up the lights with the road crew chatting as we do while we worked and the subject of Joan Jett came up. One of the local guys wondered if she was really gay when one of the road crew on the tour-a woman named Elvis (yes, really) snorted and said something to the effect that Joan has a different woman in every town.
An embellishment I'm sure and maybe a bit of jealousy there but no, it seems she'll never outright admit it. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Be Joan, Joan and be happy with who you are. But, of course, guys like us never stood a chance 😞
I heard Joan in an interview several years ago admit to being bisexual ... "giving equal opportunity to both sexes" but with a leaning toward the girls/women.
Actually, I'm surprised that Lita isn't bisexual. She certainly comes across that way.
Joan Jett, like Jeff Beck, it’s all about the music, and nothing but the music.
I've said this before... no one every rocked a set of leathers like JJ.
Kim Fowley gives the word 'strange' a whole new meaning.
He was a sexual predator, from everything I've heard about him.
Honestly I think the others have always been jealous of Joan Jett. She's the only one who made it big🎉❤🎉
I love going to a Joan Jett show. She still rock n rolls.
I loved Joan Jett!!! She was my idol then. I had a crush on her!! I wanted to be like her, but no one is Joan except her!!
I saw her last summer!! Sounded dynamite!
She produced the GERMS (GI) LP, so she will always be a legend to me.
knowing the pettiness of women, i'm sure lita's nails were just nicer than the others...
Yes, that's very true. The all-girl bands don't last as long as the all-male bands. It's nature ... get a bunch of women together, especially in a work-related situation, and the claws will come out every time. The backbiting and backstabbing are unbelievable.
I did load in for Joan in the late 80's. She was one of the nicest people in Rock, second only to Kate Pierson of the B-52's.
Respect and admiration - I've been playing and singing in bands for near 50 years and apart from that 2 hours on stage it's a real grind. It's like people hear - I play in a band - just that 'play' ...and what's your day job? they ask ..It's hard work and when it's right on the night there's nothing better then 'playing' in a band and JJ was doing it at 16. Awesome.
Come on, man. Joan is imperfect like all of us but has become an enduring star. She was wasted a lot in the early years -- it was the 70s. She overcame that. Lita Ford is an enduringly hot mess.
I think Lita is suffering from jealousy. She was a flash in pan afterwards and Joan proved to be incredibly durable.
I really liked their movie as well. It was right on the money and Michael Shannon played the part of that sleaze bag to perfection. Lita Ford is a jerk.
I've sometimes wondered how many rock n roll " managers" in the past have been the reason bands and friendships have not lasted, I. E., Sharon osbourne.
Honestly it sounds like Joan Jett is a real person and loves the stage but doesn't crave the attention to her personal life. She sounds like a professional musician that respects all of her band member and she listens to and values their opinions. Maybe she's just a little shy. My opinion tells me she's a warm person that doesn't need other peoples approval. Salute Joan.
You nailed it! That's her.
Only got to see one Joan jet concert it was 80 or 81 when I was stationed In Germany it was awsome one of the best still love her.❤
Joan Jett is a star that earned her own place at the star table.
I love Joan Jett....not only is she extremely sexy she's also an extremely talented musician and writer. I've always had a crush on her since I was a kid in the 80's...I was always saying how beautiful she is and she is a very beautiful woman and has been since day one. I would love to see her live that's one thing I haven't gotten to do and I'm definitely going to go see her this year if she's back on the road. Joan Jett is a badass woman and she always will be....love you Mrs Joan Jett.
She is gay you know. I remember her well in the scene, very petite, also very striking looking.
A great writer? What hit songs did she write? Just about every hit she had was someone else's.
@@pinkfreud62 A lot of their songs were penned by Kari Chrome.
@@omfug7148 and yet Joan still wrote more than she did.
The manager was kinda like Phil Specter was to Ronnie Specter and her band . Over powering and controlling .
Anyone who has anything less than nice to say about Joan that has worked with her is jealous. It's funny how Cherie is now against the way The Runaways copyright was organized, but back when Kenny was reaching out and helping her, she was all for it. She's only interested in herself. Anytime she doesn't get her way, suddenly it's victim city.
Joan Jett is one classy broad, way too good for most of these people. You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone in the world more loyal and with more integrity than her. It's a shame that some of her disgruntled bandmates and ex employees don't have the same decency.
Joan Jett is the kindest to her fans!!!!! Long may she rule!!!🖤🖤🖤🖤
@joanjetboy~~I hear ya~~She's a sweet one hell of a rocker chick~~I adore her and wish her the best always~~😀😀💖💖💖~~
Anyone who says anything bad about her is usually just bad themselves- and the truth of that WILL come out!
Haters gonna hate, but their jealousy is clear.
Eat your heart out, babies (you know who you are!)
Joan RULES!
Looks like these people have nice things to say about Joan Jett for the most part
Without watching I can say they spilled a lot because Joan Jett don’t give a damn about her bad reputation!
freaks and geeks 👍
Best comment I've read on RUclips in ages! lol
Kim Fowley, what a creep. He was Skip Batten's songwriting partner in the Byrds and they did write some great songs but I suspected there was something weird about him then and this video confirms it. My heart goes out to that girl.
Fowley was a sexual predator, plain and simple.
TLDR version....The Runaways didn't get along personally but functioned as a band. Those that worked with her during her solo days loved her, she was great to be around on a professional and personal level but couldn't keep up with her constant touring.
I used to have a crush on Joan. Loved the movie she made with MJF. She always seemed down to earth to me. Disappointed to find out she gay. But still love her energy.
Joan used to be bisexual, she said as much in an interview several years ago. I think that she may be full-on lesbian nowadays.
Joan Jett was amazing when I saw her live, back in 87'
The band even did several covers and sounded great on them. I stood about 20 yards from her and thought she looked very sexy. My wife at that time found her show to be amazing too. I sure miss the nostalgia of the 80's. Everything was way better back then.
If you had played your cards right, you might have worked it out to where Joan and your wife could've had some fun together while you watched.
I think that a Runaway reunion would’ve been great in like, 1991 or 1992 with Lita Ford slowly coming off the popularity of her heavy Metal band. It would’ve been great to have a two hour show of Runaway song with both Joan Jett and Lita Ford song being played as well. It’s quite clear that Lita and Joan were like water and oil. But any re-union before 2008 before Sandy West passed away would’ve been nice. It’s kind of to bad.
I saw her in a long interview. She was thoughtful, intelligent, polite, insightful about music, and not arrogant. I guess you need this headline to get our attention. Worked with me!
I always liked her style and never knew which way she rolled...if it turns out she was gay...please send pics......rock on
She was bisexual earlier in her life, but she might be full-blown lesbian now??? Either way, she's a hottie and if she is bisexual/lesbian then that just makes her even hotter.
Joan jett empowered other female bands, she was awesome I still to this day listen to her singing , she is fabulous 😊
I consider Joan Jett an amazing musical artist. Lita Ford, on the other hand, Is completely forgettable.
Yes rhanks for her story!❤
Joan Jett is certainly ,absoloutley-One in a billion! Cannot be Copied
An Original one of a kind,Those eyes and all the facial expressions. Does that make sense? I love Joan Jett!
Jackie Fox quit the Runaways and was shocked they didn't miss a gig and Joan filled in on bass. Jackie trash talked Jett for 30 years and only after Fowley died did she make the accusations. I don't believe her, I think she was jealous and sad and felt like she made a mistake quoting music.
I would never victim shame over something like this, but I noticed the same. It also is surprising that someone who was so high they were paralyzed, would be able to see and remember faces in a room full of people. But if the term (rhymes with cape) literally means there was "no consent," then by today's definitions, she was caped by age and by lack of consent.
@@tstan6827 I agree, I just don't understand why she wouldn't have said something sooner being that all the girls trash talked Fowley and said he was a sleazy creep. Hell, they fired him, and were also good about NOT revealing that Jackie didn't play on the first album.
Most everyone wouldn't make a claim like that due to all of these people who say that she made it up. Nobody wants to be a victim. She didn't want the typical backlash that comes from everyone, including women, who should be supportive, and not victim-shaming. It's quite clear that Fowley regularly abused young women.
I’ve been a Joan Jet fan for over 40 years now. Rock on Joan.
Saw Joan in concert twice in Amarillo, TX. And both times she p.o. the authorities in town by saying the word F**k in her concert! I thought she was so cool and brilliant. Rock on Joan!!
Jett is gorgeous. She's a goddess
She wouldn't be near as big if it weren't for all the covers she did.
It’s all she ever did. The hits, anayway.
@@cwheremonster8870 Wrong. Cherry Bomb, Bad Rep, I Hate Myself for Loving You were all hits, all get radio play, and all co-wrote by her. Plus she has written very fine songs on her own too.
She only did TWO covers that anyone outside her own fanbase talks about, and those are I LOVE RnR and CRIMSON AND CLOVER. Just 2! By contrast, she has three originals that are all over movies, TV, and radio- I HATE MYSELF FOR LOVING YOU, BAD REP, and CHERRY BOMB, all of which, she c-wrote. She has also written many a fine song on her own as-well, including TMI, Takeover, My Buddy and Me, Reality Mentality, and others. Plus, it was one of her own original songs (HATE MYSELF) that was adapted for the Sunday Night Football theme. So, you are really underestimating her.
@@storybellz and Bad Reputation is one of my favourite songs, Cherry Bomb is up there too. Even if she’d only had hits with covers she owned them. Fantastic voice and presence.
Met her once following a concert; she was delightful!
I saw the Runaways in 75? I think Michelle Steel later of the Bengals was the bassist. They played with a chip on their shoulder. It was raw. I saw Joan in 88 she was awesome! I loved her I love RnR which was one of the best Covers to ever make it but it was I hate myself for loving you which was and still is my all time favorite songs from Joan...
Gotta love the Bengals ... they are cool cats !!
Joan still, makes my heart skip a beat. Named my new switchblade after her.❤️🌹
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flattery.?!
i beat you say / do that
to / for all the girls..
🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
now that’s just hot
my buddy showed me a switchblade and it made me think of how cool that it would have been if we were like 14 still
@@2beJT Ha! When I was 14 I was "importing" them from Italy and. Mexico! I still have a few nice ones. One named Joan.🤠
If there's any object that deserves to be named after Joan Jett it's a switchblade.🤘
Well she is beautiful and can play guitar and sing.We love her.
As an outsider, it sure seems to me like Lita Ford is the problem, not Joan Jett. And most likely it has to do with jealousy. Joan Jett has had a far greater career than Lita Ford. Lita definitely has some talent and put out a few good records, But nothing like the level of success that Joan Jett has had. And I’m sure it has bothered her. And she’s clearly unable to put her ego aside for the rest of the band. That’s how it seems to me anyway. But again of course, I’m on the outside looking in. But it seems like some of the other members of the Runaways also think the problem is with Lita, not Joan
I feel like Lita Ford was decently popular in the late 80s for that short time but is a little butt hurt because she gets no real attention like Joan and Cherie does so she creates attention. I could be wrong but I’ve always heard Joan was a pretty cool person. I saw her back in the mid/late 90s and they were a good band, I mean she’s Joan Jett. I’m not sure I’d want to see a Runaways reunion though, stuff like that depresses me.
She really appreciated her fans held the door for people leaving shows her roadies were very disrespectful back then women really has fight harder then dudes
She'll never let anyone know or see exactly how deep the breakup of the Runaways hurt her. I dont think she ever got over it. PAST it,yes,but definitely not over it.
LP's , cassette tape , CD's , internet & Joan Jett still here a Rockin the crowd.
You can never go back..back in time..when you let time go by it's the greatest waste of anything..time isn't something you can get more of......buy more of..you get 1 shot...
Gene Simmons called and wants his hair back. (talking about the thumb nail photo lol)
I’m the same age as those women (I almost typed girls). I remember when they were at their height. They made you feel like all those nights of dancing and singing into your hairbrush, in front of a mirror, could come true. As the years have passed I’ve read about their different opinions of those times. It seems to me, that most of their memories or opinions of Joan are the same…except for Lita’s. I’ve always wondered if maybe she was just a little jealous that Joan was the one who got most of the accolades. They were all talented in their own way, but Joan was the star of that band. There’s no denying it. You have to remember they were teenagers. Their minds were still forming at that time no matter how talented they were. As far as Fowley is concerned, he definitely was a weirdo, but he knew what he had when he put them together. His obsession for teenage girls would never fly in today’s world. He is even mentioned in Dianne Lake’s (the youngest of the Manson girls) book. She had an encounter with him at 14 years old. I bet if asked, if they had it to do over again, they all would.
My husband saw her at Red rocks,said she was amazing onstage and she was tiny☺️
there are some pretty crazy stories out their about kenny laguna's handling of joan jett's career and personal life.
It’s funny. Nobody would care about a reunion. These people have been long forgotten
JOan didnt need anyone to write... She has zero hits of her own, all of her hits have been old cover tunes.
That's not true. She has three of her own hits that she co-wrote, including Cherry bomb, hate myself for loving you, and bad reputation - all hits that are included in movies and TV, as well as video games and other media. So, you really don't know much about her career, and those who don't know much have no right to criticize, and if you learn more, you wouldn't want to criticize. Food for thought.
In addition to that, just so you know, she's written and co-written over 130 songs.
Her long-time manager was involved in the production or recording of lots of the oldies that she likes to cover, and she enjoys performing great songs whether she wrote them or not. So what do you care?
Produced the GERMS first album. Gotta give her props.
Joan Jett is too cool for school! Please get back together girls!
It's plainly obvious that Lita Ford was always jealous of Joan Jett. Lita was always the problem, not Joan.
No offense, but why does everybody keep ragging on Lita here in the comments section? Remember, Lita isn't the one that left the runaways, Lita isn't the one that lied to Joan, Lita isn't the one that broke her heart by pretending to love her on every level, and then throwing her under the bus. That's Cherie Currie. They've all been problematic, but nobody has hurt Joan more than Cherie, yet, she's fooled her Joan hating fans to think that it's the other way around, to think that Joan hurt her. That's a laugh! She's a real disappointment and more than anything, an insincere and dangerous backstabber.
I thought we'd be hearing from them, not some narrator who prolly wasn't even born in the 70s🙄
I never thought the Runaways were much more than a gimmick but...Joan rocks!
Some of the ladies of the runaways just seem bitter about Joan’s success and determination!
I have a healthy crush "still" on Miss Jett... She can be 98 years old and I still would!🤗more than just looks!!!... Attitude,tanacity,,,the fact she plays electric guitar with the way she moves her body. And her punkrock look,is very appealing to me!!!!..... Ok..."enough outta me"!!!
Joan Jett is an icon...the shit she had to go through to succeed is unbelievable. The fact that "Uncle Ted" was pissed off because she was on a list of best guitarist...those list are
Arguable. Does not mean she's not good.He should have been happy for her.insread he crapped on her.I think "Unclr Ted needs an enema.Long live Joan Jett.
Lita Ford is the better guitarist between her and Jett. However "Joan Jett land" seems to be about Lita being Jealous that Joan Jett has a successful solo career.
She reminds me of a young Johnny Depp
They should be in the rock and roll hall of fame
I agree if not just for the fact that they broke new ground for women in music like Ann and Nancy Wilson did and Pat Benatar Stevie Nicks and Blondie.
@@rickyparker9168 think about it Sherry Curry was only 15 years old if it wasn’t for the runaways like you said all those other acts wouldn’t come to be look at the Donna’s perfect example to runaways paved the way should be inducted in the rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame
@@jamescarriere8478 It's Cherie James
@@jamescarriere8478 The Donna's are underrated.
@@jamescarriere8478 Heart started in the music business in the early 70s and Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham we're opening for acts like Jimi Hendrix Janis Joplin and Santana in the late 60s so that was a few years before Joan Jett came on the scene.