Gen III Cold Weather Fleece Jacket - Military - Review
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
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Today Luke is reviewing the Gen III Cold Weather Fleece Jacket. Military Surplus for the Win!
...it is a bit weird looking....
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Link : eBay will be your best source for these and will offer you the best prices
Price : $17 - $30. Depending on vender
Color : Foliage Green - I saw a black version online but I couldn’t tell if it was legit issue or not.
Makers : This one made by Tru-Spec but there are other makers out there including Peckham. Rothco has a version of this but I have read that they are not authorized. Knock offs in other words.
From what I understand these are offered only to the army and haven’t been served to the Marines.
Primary Insulation Layer: Worn underneath shell layers or worn as an outer garment in cool conditions.
The GEN III High-Loft Fleece Jacket is the primary insulation layer for use in moderate to cold conditions.
Constructed with Polartec® Thermal Pro® material the insulation on the Level III Jacket creates air pockets that trap air and retain body heat providing outstanding warmth without weight. With excellent breathability, the Level III jacket dries quickly with increased warmth while maintaining lower bulk and increased durability than previous systems.
GEN III Cold Weather Fleece Jacket Features:
Polartec Thermal Pro Material Traps Air and Retains Body Heat
Nylon Reinforcements at the Collar, Shoulders and Elbows
Zipper Front and Cord Pull
Stretch-Grid Fleece Side Panels adds Comfort and Breathability
High Collar with Full Zipper-Front and Wind Protection Flap
Two Internal Chest Pockets and Two Outer Side Pockets
Ragland Sleeve for Better Range of Motion
Elastic Sleeve Cuffs
Low Bulk with Increased Durability
VELCRO® brand fasteners for affixing name, rank and insignia
Increased Warmth with Significantly Less Weight than Previous Generation ECWCS
Level 3 ECWCS - Extended/Extreme Cold Weather Clothing System
Color: Foliage Green
With a wind jacket and a good base layer I’m comfortable down to 20F with an outer shell to block the wind.
Very comfy jacket. This is not an outer layer. Wind blows right through it. However when used as an under layer below a wind proof jacket
It is excellent. Where a cold wind is not blowing this is not an issue. This jacket is very light and easy to move around in. Size is true to size.
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Impressions :
This isn’t my favorite fleece jacket in the world but it is certainly different than what you will find on the civilian market. Warm, breathable, good quality, cheap.
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Says “Make sure you get a legit piece of military surplus.” Proceeds review with a Tru-Spec copy.
I've been wearing the second generation version of this nearly every cold day for the past 6 years. It was probably the single most important component of my clothing system the year I moved back to Chicago (Chiberia) just in time for the winter of the polar vortex.
it's meant to be a layered - hence it's horrible wind performance. It's designed specifically to be an inner layer under a gortex shell
it's still crap. The original black fleece was thicker and tougher
Absolute Veteran which one?
Another awesome review Luke, I like the color, it is something I would buy, thank you for all you do, be safe and God bless you and your Family always and forever.
Being a civil air patrol cadet, we get the air force's old ABUs, and are allowed to wear this overtop of our regular uniform, with or without a gotetex parka. They are in short supply in my wing though, so we have to buy our own. It comes in handy for cold weather training/SAR though.
I love the military surplus, keep them videos coming.
Good review Luke. For the money, it cannot be beat.
I just used it under my 15° down bag. I started out using it as a pillow. I woke cold so I put it on and slept the rest of the night in comfort. Take it as a pillow / sleep system enhancer.
Nice review. Tru-Spec makes good stuff. Nice day!!!
Who likes the Shaggy Fleece?
Have a great weekend everyone!
- Luke
I like mine, its good for a layer anyway ^^
I wear it everyday at work while I'm worrkin the line. But you should check out some of the other parts of that military issue cold weather gear like the waffle shirts/pants we get issued(becasue its got a grid pattern fleece liner)...some of the comfyest stuff youll ever wear. heres Amazons link www.amazon.com/Rothco-Gen-Iii-Level-Underwear/dp/B0040RWJ5S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1516505840&sr=8-1&keywords=rothco+gen+III
I will agree this jacket is horrible for the wind unless under something. However they are not that warm, even the actual issue version again unless under other garments. And the NSN is different depending on the size.
I love the jacket..I do have one which I use in extreme cold ( < 10F ) - of course with a down jacket underneath. I love it as an outer layer in dry cold...I got mine for $5 at a thrift store...
I have the green and the coyote ones. They are comfy and warm, but def look dorky as hell in public. I like them for outdoor gear. You can see some of the guys in Alone using the green ones on a couple seasons.
For a few years I’ve been running the usmc polartec 300 fleece. In functionality it is similar to this army one that you have. It’s easily the warmest fleece I’ve ever owned. Also terrible against the wind. I use it as a stand-alone only in late spring and early fall. The usmc fleece has the mesh pouches as well. I understand that they are good places to keep gloves and hats.
If it’s really cold out I’ll wear a navy poly turtleneck (it’s like under armor) then the fleece and finally an alpha industries m65 jacket.
The Marines wear it under the Gortex. The Army wears it as outer wear.
Hey Luke would Love to see a review on the Gen II VS Gen III ecwcs shell jackeds L6. Thanks for all your reviews buddy
Myself and my family have the fleece jacket. We love ours.
I have one of the first issued black ones polartec 300. Going strong over 10 years.
Codename Hannibal Must be gen I because the fleece is different it's not that fuzzy.Looks exactly the same as the ones that were issued to SF around 2001-2002.
The fleece.
Codename Hannibal It is american sf gear look at the pics from sf in 2002-2003 on deployment they are wearing black p300 polartec fleece jackets
Codename Hannibal That's the one i have.
mine is just like he's wereing in the vid but it cae with STAFF SGt AIRFORCE RANK and U.S.AIRFORCE tap
Navy has these too, they're in black but no nametapes on the outside.
I believe that black ones are better made and warmer. The black ones are better as a stand alone garment and warmer when used in conjunction with a outer shell garment.
however they are heavier and thicker. The green may be better in warmer weather like above freezing. Below freezing the black (bear suit) is by far a better choice.
Luke you should get some Velcro nametapes for that jacket. They're only a few bucks. I love my gen III layers.
Polartec Thermal Pro is tops for an insulating midlayer. But yes, with the exception Polartec Powershield and Powershield Pro, wind will go right through it.
I absolutely love this thing but as you've stated the wind protection sucks. Gotta wear it with a goretex shell.
Odd how it has an NSN but also made outside of the US. I was under the impression that if it's made anywhere other than the US it's commercial though still made to military specification.
How do these compare to modern day fleece from say... Patagonia? regards to warmth?
I find these "military" equipment reviews kinda funny because every soldier I ever talked to says their experience in the military was either too hot or too cold.
Love it. I have a Canadian military fleece which I wear all the time & US military bear shirt fleece when it gets real cold.
That bear jkt under a windbreaker = WARM !!
Luke, it's actually issued to USAF as well.
I live in Denmark. Do you have an address in Denmark? A shopping store from which I can buy directly
You can also get them at clothing sales on any military base if you can get on one.
While you are half right unless you have a military ID you can not buy from clothing sales. How ever if you know anyone who is in the military you can have them buy it. Lucky me a veteran 23 years I still can.
Like many said, not standard issue. However it is within (older) regs.
Just picked one up made by Polartec for $6. Seems nice. I like the look
Ive been testing these mil-surp jackets for 10+ years. Ive tried them all, the french alpine fleece jacket is BY FAR THE BEST ONE IVE EVER TRIED.
How warm is it ?
Is true spec polar tec?
Looks Cool
I wore mine today 😊.
Great video, Luke 👍🏼
Have you tried the Helikon-Tex Patriot fleece jacket? It's very warm and does a good job of keeping the wind out. I recently bought one in coyote and one in flecktarn and I love them. (I like flecktarn, so sue me :-) )They look good too. You ought to try G7 Instant coffee 3-in-one sachets. It's very good, but you need to use two as the serving size for one packet is 1/3 cup.
The "just say no to Flecktarn" police have been notified and you should go into immediate hiking cause they don't play around. Next time keep your unlawful thoughts on the down low.
I have a Russian copy of this which seems basically the same. Great under a softshell.
Would it be pretty warm with a small wind breaker jacket over it, Luke?
Scott Taylor yes. Any shell over top that blocks wind will make it 100% better.
Scott Taylor Absolutely. It's issued with a rain/windproof goretex jacket
Sorry man didn’t mean to kill your question. I just have personally had one issues figured ide say something.
Peelin Drag
I’m wrong, man. I deleted my comment. Sorry about that. You were trying to help and I should not have commented like that.
No man your totally fine bub. I took no offense at all. Always good to hear feedback. So don’t feel any type of way about it man. Hope you well in your adventures.
Would the level 7 jacket in size small regular fit someone about 5" 8?
That makes no sense. You could be 5 foot 8 and 110 pounds or 5 foot 8 and 260 pounds. Lol
Great review! Patagonia has a similar jacket for about 4x the price, so this is a great deal. Fleece in general isn't great for wind. Neither the Poloartec 100 or 200 fleece jackets (by Marmot) I own don't keep wind out. Now Gore WindStopper on the other is a great fabric for that.
Of course it’s Not wind proof. It is part of a 7 layer system. It works exactly as designed.
Hi Luke. Nice review. You should also try Portwest Argyll Heavy Fleece 400. It is cheaper, warmer, thicker, denser, block some wind and comes in nicer colors - I like the red one most. It is cheap workwear but durable and great for hiking. Cheers from Europe
Kinda like the Shagmaster hoodie by Triple Aught Design
No pit zips?
So what does "Gen III" mean? My limited understanding of PolarTec ratings is that 100 is thin, and 300 is thick. What is this?
Gen III means it's part of the Third Generation of the Extreme Cold Weather Clothing System (ECWCS). The system includes base layers, mid layers (like this one reviewed) and windproof/waterproof shell layer.
Replaces the army's black "ninja suit" that was fleece also but had black fleece coveralls also
Sooo, is this as thick as Polartec 300? I'm thinking, not, since 300 is dense enough to stop light wind. 100 on the other hand is like wearing a T shirt :(.
I like it!
Which fleece jacket do you like better?
Polaris genIII
Sorry it is Polartic
Tru-Spec is not official issue. Huge difference in quality.
What companies are official issue? I noticed on the label made in Dominican Republic. Wouldn’t they be made in the USA?
No NSN# ...No dice
@@lesgrossman4636 I ordered a level 1 and level 2 from an eBay seller. Both said they were polartec. The level 1 made by Peckham and has a polartec product tag but there isn’t a polartec tag on the garment. The level 2 made by KCARC doesn’t have any polartec tag. Called both companies and they said they wouldn’t make a garment without polartec tag on the garment. I got 2 knockoffs I believe. Both have NSN #’s. I have a level 2 made by Peckham that has the polartec tag on the garment next to care label. The level 2 made by KCARC doesn’t feel the same as the Peckham one.
@@MarcP5267You are a mогоn
Army doesnt wear it due to OCP coyote brown version. The sage green is all Air Force.
Galen Bird NOW It's all coyote brown for the Army. 5 years ago I was issued the sage green. That`s why it's surplus NOW. It's annoying because NOW we have to buy all the same stuff in the new color pattern...if the unit doesn't have the money to issue it to us.
Oh yeah, we're all goin coyote brown OCPs...eventually the Air Force will follow suit. but that fleece jacket despite its current color has been the Gore-Tex liner for years and years even back when we had BDUs(I've only got 16 years under my belt..) . The matching fleece pants dont completely suck either(when worn with the pant outer shell..).
Tru-spec made in Dominican Republic is not USGI though.
I just found your channel
U will be very shape with ROTHCO ones
it will go with the level 5 gen II shell jacket #NSN: 8415-01-543-5040 I have two of the shaggy carpets in coyote they are awesome great video Luke
Well if it is that loose on wind it's a loss in my opinion. Which is a shame. Cause it looks so cozy.
^ This
It's designed to be warm and very breathable. Making it windproof or resistant defeats the purpose.
5 years later, Luke never wears this jacket in his cold weather videos.🤓
Please! No more fleece. I am fleeced-out and drowning in the stuff. I could start a fleece store. As you mentioned, wind goes through it like it is a swiss cheese.
i have the gen three fleece for obvious reasons there stupid comfy for no reason
wheres are adventure video.😰
sweet
Sorry dude, that is not a LEGIT piece of military gear. That's a knock off manuf one. Sorry man
EXACTLY what I was going to say - truspec is another rothco wannabe. My (legit) one was made by "Goodwill industries of south florida" and has a MUCH tighter 'shag' that that POS.
When I was in only Pogs were allowed to wear that thing
Weight, please.
Aside from Mickey Mouse boots does the US military ever issue vapor barrier gear for extreme cold?
jacket liner? under a leather an your good!!!!
How tall you are? I mean... that thing is medium regular and i eant to know how tall you are just to know :)
I'm fairly short; 5'4"/5'5"
- Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview hoo thanks my friend you have a new suscriber :)
Genuine muppet skin.
Yea definitely not issued in the Marine Corps
no just the brown ones are
With all do respect. It’s not original. The clothing tag should be more than that. This fleece is mimicked extensively.
I'll stick with my M65
Love thoughs jackets
It looks too loose fitting for serious insulation. To many areas where warm air can escape..
When combined with the outer shell you can be quite toasty. Don't let the looseness fool you.
Also, the USN receive the same one in black.
It might be quality, but it looks like a Halloween costume. For the furries.
Marine's use coyote
Yeap I still have my Peckham cover aka watch caps and tops.
Austin lol that's right. U forgot
Fuck $17 those cost like 80 on base..
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