Seems silly but I really like the old anglehead usgi flashlight. I got a rechargeable "D" size li-ion battery and swapped out the incandescent bulb for an LED. Thing lasts for absolutely ever ( like, _days_ ) and being able to multi stack the color filters stored in the handle means I can easily make the light much dimmer than any of my red headlamps. Nice for reading in a tent. Of course the Chinese copies are utter garbage (looking at you, Rothco) but the surplus ones are still pretty tough and always super cheap, like 20-30 bucks.
I liked the thin wool sleep hat that used to come with new sleeping bags. It was inside the bag after you opened it up. These were great for chilly weather. Guys used to just throw these away. I saved them. I only have one left and I treat it like gold. It worked great under my helmet as a thin liner. I love and miss lots of that old gear. 👍
I'm an old school 11Bravo 1980 -2000..and yes I still use the sleeping shirt and carry one in the butt pack..they are very functional and alot more warm than your thin new issue base layer...I find my waffle tops and bottoms at good will .
I too am an 11B 1980 - 1992. Picked up my sleep shirt at a PX during winter ops training in Alaska. Besides jungle boots it is the best surplus purchase I ever made.
@@NinetyMinusTen hi bro...I still find them new at the good will here in Phoenix also the new issue waffle tops and bottoms...clothing and sales was my best friend back in the day.
Same here 95’ to 01’ and still love the gear managed to get the entire ECWS sleeping bag as a donation back when I was experimenting with homelessness… and apparently thanks to King Charles who for those of you that don’t know heads the “Deep State” which is a stupid name for those that bear his bloodline.. Obama 8th cousin, Bush Jr. 8th cousin , Clinton 7th cousin , that’s all it is 19 of the past 22 presidents are “Of the blood” and yes currently three rulers on earth aren’t of the Blood ..North Korea, Italy, Trump … that’s why they are after him so badly the other presidents that weren’t blood ? Nixon , and I actually don’t know which other one wasn’t related .. so here’s the problem King Charles rules they will make his every real wish happen because Trump won and wants them out .. and there is no telling who is an infiltrator I do know Tulsi Gabbard is an Infiltrator the only one that could carry off the deception of a side jump into the Republican Party she cannot be trusted I just watched her lie and double down on an easily checked lie .. so she garbage 🗑️… and here’s the real goal : one family earth .. they have a family line that has just over 500 million members I know it’s crazy but this bloodline has been around since before Christ supposedly walked so plenty of time to make Babies… any the King called for a planet with only 500 million people… now do you see ? So yeah their idiotic one disease and bang … while species done unless we take them out first … and remember most are murderers and I do mean most ! So anyway they will be when this is done if we let them do this !
We original SOCOM soldiers loved our sleeping shirts and guarded them almost as closely as our masks. We often wondered why no pants came with. Glad to hear that they are still a favorite.
In Germany in '86, the sleep shirt was $7 and brown 5 button wool sweater was $15. Quite a deal even at that time. Still got mine. The shirt was comfortable but not hard-wearing; the elbows wore thin pretty quickly.
I miss my wool 5 button sweater. I actually still have it somewhere, but I’ve had it for so long and used to wear it so often that the fibers around the collar and cuffs started to wear out and come apart. It was one of my most reliable pieces of winter gear. They seem to be extremely hard to find now.
My nephew is still in and I was thinking of getting him one. There's even a company that makes a reproduction of the WWII version which would be even more awesome to wear under his whatever they call the new BDUs...
I have found that the USGI 5 button wool sweater is nowhere near as thick and warm as the USMC commando sweater, I like the collar but they're a thinner knitt that's just not as warm. Maybe I just got a bad example? Now the USGI OG-108 wool field shirt is great, even the 70's examples that are readily available online NOS for around $30. The Korean war era examples are supposed to be even better, but I've been perfectly happy with the 1977 examples I bought. I wear it over a Henley & flannel, under my m65 if it's raining or just as an extra wind barrier under my wool cruisers or vintage wool barn jackets. I love wool and have a good deal of it, but fleece makes my skin crawl and I can't wear it.
The Indy Gun Bunker on Washington St in Indy had about 6 of the legit ones ( smaller sizes ) awhile back Very reasonable prices Also Military Tactical Law surplus store in Duncannon PA had a few ( also smaller sizes ) a few months ago Best of luck
Early 1980's - As a new Plt Commander, I got a lot of new stuff from supply. Including a nylon sleep shirt. They had been in the system since Vietnam and not as nice as the modern poly-pro ones like you are showing. I was prior enlisted and had never gotten anything brand new from Supply. The little sleeping cap was in the package with my new sleeping bag. Before we went to the field, one of my Marines asked if I got the cap thing. I said yes, and he told me that they only used them for sleeping. Not walking around the bivouac area. He said they all called them the "Penis Head Hat". I know they let me in on things like that because I'd been a SSgt. The other Lt's didn't get the memo and wore them out and about. Gave the Marines something to chuckle about.
ETS in 1970. We weren't even issued jacket liners! No rain gear of any type! Ear plugs were filters from your smokes. Back then most of us smoked! Best thing we were issued were the socks, wool with double layer heal and toes. It took decades but I finally wore them all out!
I have two of those sleep shirts -- issued to me nearly 20 years ago. Got 'em hanging in the closet with my OD Green, Woodland Camo and DCU M-65 Field Jackets! Great find, Randall!
Just found your channel - thank you for putting together great content. I was issued a sleep shirt in January 1989 when I started my tour in Korea. I hardly ever wore it, preferring the field jacket liner. Thanks again for the great review of this piece of kit and the insight into prices and availability - it was very helpful.
It is great you show everyone all of the low cost, good quality options for gear. I like all of the cool name brand stuff. But it is nice to have durable gear which works for a quarter of the price. The Canadian Military Heavy Wool shirt (circa 1990s) is a great, surplus piece.
I don’t doubt how warm it is but as an electrician, I do know that synthetic materials in a high spark flash, or fire situation that stuff melts to your skin. That’s what keeps me going back to natural materials. by the way, I do dig the PBR hat.👍🇺🇸
The first polypro I got my hands on was at Clothing Sales(Wurzburg) and I bought myself(in 1987). It was a thinner base layer made by Allen-A. I would wear the crew neck shirt in lieu of the brown t-shirt in winter. That and the bottoms usually kept me warm enough not to need the field jacket liner (unless temps started dipping down near the zero and below range, then the 5 button wool sweater came in before the liner).
Now that's something I'm going to have to look in to! Gen 2. I've been having trouble finding something comfortable to sleep in and that looks like it will do great. Thanks!!
I had a couple issued to me. Wore them when I was stationed in Korea 94-95. This, aside from my field jacket was my favorite piece of gear I WORKED in. Nothing says hard work like working outside for 14 to 16 hours hours a day, 6-7 days a week, during a winter your told was the coldest they've had in 20 years or so, doing 3 years worth of heavy construction projects inside 1 year. So yeah, me and the sleeper shirt had ALOT of time together. Wore one under my blouse, or just my field jacket without the blouse. A lot of times, i wore just my T shirt, and field jacket. You had to strip down so you didn't get a cold sweat. Or just my T shirt, sleeper shirt, and field jacket. Generally speaking, if you were cold, it meant you weren't working hard enough. I was BUMMED when I wore mine out. I looked around for a replacement years past, but gave up on finding one. Thanks for reminding me.. just found a medium on Ebay. Brand new with tags, $32d some odd dollars, worth every penny.
That brown polypro was almost too warm, just like the M1951 Fishtail Parka with the wool liner. Good if you're laying in your ranger grave out at Ft Indiantown Gap in February but if you're moving at all, get ready to sweat.
There are out there right now if you can't find these in the Surplus stores, some light jackets/heavy sweaters that are very similar to the sleep shirts with extra tall neck part like above that can be found for a better price then say a Kuiu or Colombia brand when not on sale. Most of these on the lower end are sports brands that call the tops some type of benchwarmer gear made more for High School coaches for sports like Ice Hockey, late season USA Football, or Track and Field Coaches early in the spring season.
I've never been in the military, because I'm 4F, so I always had the leisure to stop and add or peel layers, without risking any objectives or lives. From childhood, I was always the kid with his coat tied around his waist. As I got older, I started embracing the suck and going out dressed for my anticipated activity, with my thermal/puffer layers packed or tied to my pack. But it's more a work thing around the house/camp than an on-maneuvers thing. Throwing on a wool shirt to go out and split a bunch of rounds. You heat up pretty quick wielding a maul and stacking firewood. Turns out it's better for your health to give yourself those cold shocks. Beneficial for your metabolism. I like the poly for sitting still, but wool is best for me. I can see why people like the soft shell, but I prefer wool, and when I need to be quiet, I like 100% wool mackinaw, with or without a sweater, but always a merino base layer. Even the new poly stinks up quicker than wool, and I'm not as concerned about weight. You can pack a spare and still be lighter than one wool garment, if you use the synthetic stuff.
As mentioned above, you can remove latex paint with fingernail polish remover or acetone. Make sure the fabric doesn’t contain acetate or triacetate because the acetone will melt the fibers in the fabric. Make sure you’ve removed the paint before putting the clothes in the dryer, as the heat will cause the stain to set.
Love the brown poly's. I have four pair and they are my go-to during the winter outdoor season. If I could only have one more item I was issued, it would be my medium MOLLE ruck. (Had to turn that back in.)
One of the items I always hunt for at thrift stores and yard sales. The first type had buttons instead of the zip. Never was issued one, but they were available at Clothing Sales. 5 button sweater, poncho liner , sleep shirt and green jungle boots were all good gear. The older West German surplus long sleep shirts are very comfortable if you find one.
I still have one or two of those from years ago when we were wearing BDUs and working F-16s and A-10s on the flightline. Nice and toasty. With the OCPs I wear the waffle top now with the Polartec thin long john top and bottom when it's below 30 on the flight line.
Aaahhh... A blast from the past indeed ! We used to wear the polyprop upper under our BDU blouse during the winter. In the field however, the M-65 still ruled ! I remember we had to fold the polyprop collar down so that just our brown t-shirt was visible... otherwise... you would find yourself "toasty warm and sweat sodden" from a "spontaneous jog" around the base perimeter 🙂
I use polypro tops and bottoms with a fleece liner or waffle top then my coat and hat of choice for being in a stagnant position in cold weather. But that's a cool top.
@@williamschlosser77 What was funny, not really, was we never or barely used the sleeping bag. No room in the Large Alice, but we loved our Sleeping Shirts.
Do miss my sleep shirt. If you roll/tuck the collar underneath/inside the short you can wear it under your BDUs. Wore this almost everyday during winter in Korea.
LOL...the one I was issued has buttons instead of a zipper. it came with a sleeping cap made from the same material. We got it issued at CIF with our jungle fatigues, wool sweater, and field pants... :D
I own two, one is button up and one is zipper; I prefer the button model. I did find a third and gave it to a buddy. Is it true, that Henry Ford worked for the military before he started making cars? "You can have any color you want, as long as it is olive drab". 😛
Bear suit top and bottoms. I liked the brown cold weather long sleeved undershirt. I liked it because it had the buttoned v neck. i could wear it and no one would know. While in uniform or in civilian cloths.
My Dad was career Air Force...as a kid&teen I had winter and summer flightsuits,jackets,etc.but I remember best the winter wool flightsuit that saved my ass doing z paper route at 4:30 am in Illinois!
I have the old sleep shirt that has 2 buttons and made of nylon acetate, I got as an alternative to the wool M51 flannel shirt or even the WW2 wool sweater to go with olive green M65 cold wet or cold dry uniform :) I'll try to get one like your's as well :)
I use to have a similar shirt, it was a foreign milsurp, I loved the collar, it folded, and when you unfolded it. It would cover your mouth. It would keep you warm for a bit even into the upper 20s.
As a former 11B from 80s though the 99 trying to get issued a new sleeping bag was next to impossible from most of the posts C.I.F. then having to do mandatory turn in to unit supply to be cleaned. Then receive extreme cold weather returned or vs versa. Why I snagged up a gortex sleeping system when I got the chance. To many C.I.F. playing games with soldiers turning in TA-50.
old canvas sleeping bags (after feathers were replaced with fiber, freeze your ass off) NIB came with the light weight sleep shirt and a snoopy cap of same material. Pre poly. thin, not bruched. Ide was to keep the bag clean for head and body oil.
It’s cool how you stressed that particular gear serve particular purposes. Here’s what I did about insulation: getting sick of having too many sleeves while layering, I took an old wool shirt and cut off the sleeves and collar for my first layer. Problem solved.
Nicely done! Remember to size up or down when layering. I am looking to layer two M-65 liners and may try 1 large and 1 XL (or M and L). My issue is with too many high neck collars, even when sizing up you never seem to be able to get all the collars closed without choking yourself, so I try to layer crew necks layers with jackets that have higher collar. A scarf can always fill any dead air space if one feels the need.
I buy outer clothing a size or two larger for this very reason. The cutoff and wool pants is followed by a collarless zippered wool sweater (military) and a military coverall in woodland camo. I adjust as needed. My gear is a mix of military and civilian stuff, because I try to be as efficient as possible. I hate modern camo patterns-the light grays fade to white and I’ve had deer pick me out. Woodland lasts much longer.
I buy outer clothing a size or two larger for this very reason. The cutoff and wool pants is followed by a collarless zippered wool sweater (military) and a military coverall in woodland camo. I adjust as needed. My gear is a mix of military and civilian stuff, because I try to be as efficient as possible. I hate modern camo patterns-the light grays fade to white and I’ve had deer pick me out. Woodland lasts much longer.
Bought one long ago; used it only for several camping nights; that was a xxl but it was very tight at the arms and the shirt sticked to the material of my sleeping bag; not my best nights outside...
I do facility maintenance one of my rules is if it's cold enough you need a jacket it's to cold to paint!! If i need more than a tee shirt to be comfortable i don't paint.
Looks like a cool product, very nice for CC. I will keep my eyes open for some. Bought something similar from Duluth Trading last month. Maybe I can compare and contrast.
Never got much bang for the buck out of the polypros. Never kept me that warm. Now the ugly brown three button sweater? Toasty warm goodness!!! Still use mine on cold days. Love it!!
Yeah... I'll be picking one up. Thanks! I am not overweight, but I AM tall. Between that and CCW, that extra bit of length and bagginess would be awesome.
sleep shirt plus the sleep hat (which was part of the sleeping bag issue?) were great. I would wear sleep shirt, then the field jacket liner, then my BDU shirt. If it was raining, I wore the WW jacket (later the goretex). I never had a Graf jacket made, but I did obtain a parka liner that I wore under the WW jacket
They wanted my sleep shirt back when I retired. Almost everyone wore the polypros wrong1 The are not "sweaters" they do not go over the t-shirt. they are the first layer next to skin.
Nothing beats 100% wool. I've worn wool from WW1 pants and shirts for 40 years in winter in Vermont. Wool gets wet but stays warm. If taken care of lasts for years. I would buy newer stuff for winter but the older ones aren't worn out yet, not even thin or patched. I don't wear a sleeping shirt...
What other less popular relics do you guys miss?
Gortex rain suit, in woodland camo. Best rain gear I ever had. I just out grew it and it to small now. I'll replace it one day.
I don’t miss this cause I have mine, old school GI original issue od field jacket, hard to find, if I do I’ll get another one.
the class A leather gloves that had a wool lining sewn into them.
Seems silly but I really like the old anglehead usgi flashlight. I got a rechargeable "D" size li-ion battery and swapped out the incandescent bulb for an LED. Thing lasts for absolutely ever ( like, _days_ ) and being able to multi stack the color filters stored in the handle means I can easily make the light much dimmer than any of my red headlamps. Nice for reading in a tent. Of course the Chinese copies are utter garbage (looking at you, Rothco) but the surplus ones are still pretty tough and always super cheap, like 20-30 bucks.
Wet Weather top lined with a ponch liner.
I liked the thin wool sleep hat that used to come with new sleeping bags. It was inside the bag after you opened it up. These were great for chilly weather. Guys used to just throw these away. I saved them. I only have one left and I treat it like gold. It worked great under my helmet as a thin liner. I love and miss lots of that old gear. 👍
I still 2 of the sleeping hats from purchasing some new surplus big green fartsacks. The are life savers in cold weather
The sleep cap was awesome. Only got one in 9 years.
I'm an old school 11Bravo 1980 -2000..and yes I still use the sleeping shirt and carry one in the butt pack..they are very functional and alot more warm than your thin new issue base layer...I find my waffle tops and bottoms at good will .
I too am an 11B 1980 - 1992. Picked up my sleep shirt at a PX during winter ops training in Alaska. Besides jungle boots it is the best surplus purchase I ever made.
@@NinetyMinusTen hi bro...I still find them new at the good will here in Phoenix also the new issue waffle tops and bottoms...clothing and sales was my best friend back in the day.
Same here 95’ to 01’ and still love the gear managed to get the entire ECWS sleeping bag as a donation back when I was experimenting with homelessness… and apparently thanks to King Charles who for those of you that don’t know heads the “Deep State” which is a stupid name for those that bear his bloodline.. Obama 8th cousin, Bush Jr. 8th cousin , Clinton 7th cousin , that’s all it is 19 of the past 22 presidents are “Of the blood” and yes currently three rulers on earth aren’t of the Blood ..North Korea, Italy, Trump … that’s why they are after him so badly the other presidents that weren’t blood ? Nixon , and I actually don’t know which other one wasn’t related .. so here’s the problem King Charles rules they will make his every real wish happen because Trump won and wants them out .. and there is no telling who is an infiltrator I do know Tulsi Gabbard is an Infiltrator the only one that could carry off the deception of a side jump into the Republican Party she cannot be trusted I just watched her lie and double down on an easily checked lie .. so she garbage 🗑️… and here’s the real goal : one family earth .. they have a family line that has just over 500 million members I know it’s crazy but this bloodline has been around since before Christ supposedly walked so plenty of time to make Babies… any the King called for a planet with only 500 million people… now do you see ? So yeah their idiotic one disease and bang … while species done unless we take them out first … and remember most are murderers and I do mean most ! So anyway they will be when this is done if we let them do this !
We original SOCOM soldiers loved our sleeping shirts and guarded them almost as closely as our masks. We often wondered why no pants came with. Glad to hear that they are still a favorite.
In Germany in '86, the sleep shirt was $7 and brown 5 button wool sweater was $15. Quite a deal even at that time. Still got mine.
The shirt was comfortable but not hard-wearing; the elbows wore thin pretty quickly.
I miss my wool 5 button sweater. I actually still have it somewhere, but I’ve had it for so long and used to wear it so often that the fibers around the collar and cuffs started to wear out and come apart. It was one of my most reliable pieces of winter gear. They seem to be extremely hard to find now.
Still have mine!
My nephew is still in and I was thinking of getting him one. There's even a company that makes a reproduction of the WWII version which would be even more awesome to wear under his whatever they call the new BDUs...
I have found that the USGI 5 button wool sweater is nowhere near as thick and warm as the USMC commando sweater, I like the collar but they're a thinner knitt that's just not as warm.
Maybe I just got a bad example?
Now the USGI OG-108 wool field shirt is great, even the 70's examples that are readily available online NOS for around $30.
The Korean war era examples are supposed to be even better, but I've been perfectly happy with the 1977 examples I bought.
I wear it over a Henley & flannel, under my m65 if it's raining or just as an extra wind barrier under my wool cruisers or vintage wool barn jackets.
I love wool and have a good deal of it, but fleece makes my skin crawl and I can't wear it.
The Indy Gun Bunker on Washington St in Indy had about 6 of the legit ones ( smaller sizes ) awhile back
Very reasonable prices
Also Military Tactical Law surplus store in Duncannon PA had a few ( also smaller sizes ) a few months ago
Best of luck
Early 1980's - As a new Plt Commander, I got a lot of new stuff from supply. Including a nylon sleep shirt. They had been in the system since Vietnam and not as nice as the modern poly-pro ones like you are showing. I was prior enlisted and had never gotten anything brand new from Supply. The little sleeping cap was in the package with my new sleeping bag.
Before we went to the field, one of my Marines asked if I got the cap thing. I said yes, and he told me that they only used them for sleeping. Not walking around the bivouac area. He said they all called them the "Penis Head Hat".
I know they let me in on things like that because I'd been a SSgt. The other Lt's didn't get the memo and wore them out and about. Gave the Marines something to chuckle about.
ETS in 1970. We weren't even issued jacket liners! No rain gear of any type! Ear plugs were filters from your smokes. Back then most of us smoked! Best thing we were issued were the socks, wool with double layer heal and toes. It took decades but I finally wore them all out!
I have two of those sleep shirts -- issued to me nearly 20 years ago. Got 'em hanging in the closet with my OD Green, Woodland Camo and DCU M-65 Field Jackets! Great find, Randall!
I was 11B 1983-1988…the green sleep shirts had three buttons…but l wore them all the time….great garment especially for the winter in Korea…
Yes sir I have several of those,I collect and use U.S.Military gear everyday of my life great video!
Just found your channel - thank you for putting together great content. I was issued a sleep shirt in January 1989 when I started my tour in Korea. I hardly ever wore it, preferring the field jacket liner. Thanks again for the great review of this piece of kit and the insight into prices and availability - it was very helpful.
It is great you show everyone all of the low cost, good quality options for gear. I like all of the cool name brand stuff. But it is nice to have durable gear which works for a quarter of the price. The Canadian Military Heavy Wool shirt (circa 1990s) is a great, surplus piece.
Joined the army in'82. I've got 3 of them that I still use every winter. My first one came with my first extreme cold sleeping bag.
I don’t doubt how warm it is but as an electrician, I do know that synthetic materials in a high spark flash, or fire situation that stuff melts to your skin. That’s what keeps me going back to natural materials. by the way, I do dig the PBR hat.👍🇺🇸
I’ve got one, had it for a few years, it’s outstanding, comfortable, and definitely keeps you warm. I want to get a few more.
The first polypro I got my hands on was at Clothing Sales(Wurzburg) and I bought myself(in 1987). It was a thinner base layer made by Allen-A. I would wear the crew neck shirt in lieu of the brown t-shirt in winter. That and the bottoms usually kept me warm enough not to need the field jacket liner (unless temps started dipping down near the zero and below range, then the 5 button wool sweater came in before the liner).
Now that's something I'm going to have to look in to! Gen 2. I've been having trouble finding something comfortable to sleep in and that looks like it will do great. Thanks!!
I had a couple issued to me. Wore them when I was stationed in Korea 94-95. This, aside from my field jacket was my favorite piece of gear I WORKED in. Nothing says hard work like working outside for 14 to 16 hours hours a day, 6-7 days a week, during a winter your told was the coldest they've had in 20 years or so, doing 3 years worth of heavy construction projects inside 1 year. So yeah, me and the sleeper shirt had ALOT of time together. Wore one under my blouse, or just my field jacket without the blouse. A lot of times, i wore just my T shirt, and field jacket. You had to strip down so you didn't get a cold sweat. Or just my T shirt, sleeper shirt, and field jacket. Generally speaking, if you were cold, it meant you weren't working hard enough. I was BUMMED when I wore mine out. I looked around for a replacement years past, but gave up on finding one. Thanks for reminding me.. just found a medium on Ebay. Brand new with tags, $32d some odd dollars, worth every penny.
That brown polypro was almost too warm, just like the M1951 Fishtail Parka with the wool liner. Good if you're laying in your ranger grave out at Ft Indiantown Gap in February but if you're moving at all, get ready to sweat.
There are out there right now if you can't find these in the Surplus stores, some light jackets/heavy sweaters that are very similar to the sleep shirts with extra tall neck part like above that can be found for a better price then say a Kuiu or Colombia brand when not on sale. Most of these on the lower end are sports brands that call the tops some type of benchwarmer gear made more for High School coaches for sports like Ice Hockey, late season USA Football, or Track and Field Coaches early in the spring season.
I got one in my USAF days, and it worked well with the ABU uniform. I wear it a lot during winter.
Hard part trying to find it in XL size even when it was issued. I live near two major military bases.
I've never been in the military, because I'm 4F, so I always had the leisure to stop and add or peel layers, without risking any objectives or lives. From childhood, I was always the kid with his coat tied around his waist. As I got older, I started embracing the suck and going out dressed for my anticipated activity, with my thermal/puffer layers packed or tied to my pack. But it's more a work thing around the house/camp than an on-maneuvers thing. Throwing on a wool shirt to go out and split a bunch of rounds. You heat up pretty quick wielding a maul and stacking firewood.
Turns out it's better for your health to give yourself those cold shocks. Beneficial for your metabolism.
I like the poly for sitting still, but wool is best for me. I can see why people like the soft shell, but I prefer wool, and when I need to be quiet, I like 100% wool mackinaw, with or without a sweater, but always a merino base layer. Even the new poly stinks up quicker than wool, and I'm not as concerned about weight. You can pack a spare and still be lighter than one wool garment, if you use the synthetic stuff.
Mine were dark OD and had buttons. Worked like a charm layering in Germany and under my BDU top in Ft. Polk "winters." '84-'90.
As mentioned above, you can remove latex paint with fingernail polish remover or acetone. Make sure the fabric doesn’t contain acetate or triacetate because the acetone will melt the fibers in the fabric. Make sure you’ve removed the paint before putting the clothes in the dryer, as the heat will cause the stain to set.
guy at the flea mkt has some of these sleep shirts and i never thought to much about em but i might pick one up before thay run out.
These used to come with the new cold weather bags , never saw them any where else
Love the brown poly's. I have four pair and they are my go-to during the winter outdoor season. If I could only have one more item I was issued, it would be my medium MOLLE ruck. (Had to turn that back in.)
Best I know, those ACU patter MOLLE rucks go for $20 at some surplus stores
Get ya one 🤙🏽
I've never heard of it, but it's definitely something to be on the lookout for. Thanks for the info
Picked up a couple for cheap at the local Army-Navy store a few years ago and they’re awesome
One of the items I always hunt for at thrift stores and yard sales. The first type had buttons instead of the zip. Never was issued one, but they were available at Clothing Sales. 5 button sweater, poncho liner , sleep shirt and green jungle boots were all good gear. The older West German surplus long sleep shirts are very comfortable if you find one.
I still have one or two of those from years ago when we were wearing BDUs and working F-16s and A-10s on the flightline. Nice and toasty. With the OCPs I wear the waffle top now with the Polartec thin long john top and bottom when it's below 30 on the flight line.
I served in North Germany - We did not get issued anything even close to
those
Aaahhh... A blast from the past indeed !
We used to wear the polyprop upper under our BDU blouse during the winter. In the field however, the M-65 still ruled !
I remember we had to fold the polyprop collar down so that just our brown t-shirt was visible... otherwise... you would find yourself "toasty warm and sweat sodden" from a "spontaneous jog" around the base perimeter 🙂
I still wear my 65
I dig the green flannel. What I call "discrete tactical."
Always great to find good gear affordable.
What is the "stink-factor" on day 3?
I've got one, I kept it from my time in the 2 ID. I wore it to sleep in when I was walking on the A.T.
13 B 30 here I have a couple of these shirts. Love them for there warmth.
I retired in 1994. We had them then the only problem that I ever had with them was the elbows would wear out too fast
I use polypro tops and bottoms with a fleece liner or waffle top then my coat and hat of choice for being in a stagnant position in cold weather. But that's a cool top.
I have a sweet hoodie made with the same material from "Balance Collection". 20 bucks at a salvation army, total gem in the kit.
I had a sleep shirt before the polypro came out. My friend got it, but it was to small for him so I traded for it. This was back in the 90’s
We had those. I’ve still got one. It came with the mountain sleeping bag. It did predate the polypro. And in winter. We lived in them
@@williamschlosser77 I also loved the Jac Shirt. Can’t find them in XXL sizes.
@@williamschlosser77 What was funny, not really, was we never or barely used the sleeping bag. No room in the Large Alice, but we loved our Sleeping Shirts.
Do miss my sleep shirt. If you roll/tuck the collar underneath/inside the short you can wear it under your BDUs. Wore this almost everyday during winter in Korea.
I still use the wool scarf and wear the field jacket liner under lighter weight coats.
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LOL...the one I was issued has buttons instead of a zipper. it came with a sleeping cap made from the same material. We got it issued at CIF with our jungle fatigues, wool sweater, and field pants... :D
You are correct - the brown is hotter than hell, doesn't breath at all and shrinks like crazy when washed a few times.
Yea I never put mine in the dryer
Loved the sleep shirt. I think I still have it somewhere. Might have to go look for it.
2nd problem with the polypro is that it shrinks up like a melted soda bottle in the exhaust of an Abrams.
They are testing some new cold weather gear in Alaska. I believe it was just issued recently. Thanks for the video' s.
A friend gave me a seat of those poly long johns when he got out of the Army. I live in Texas, they were too hot to wear even on our coldest days.
The wool mummy bag liner that the 50s 60s bag had. Used them as a bag on warm weather camps.
I own two, one is button up and one is zipper; I prefer the button model. I did find a third and gave it to a buddy. Is it true, that Henry Ford worked for the military before he started making cars? "You can have any color you want, as long as it is olive drab". 😛
Lambs wool one-piece long johns. Saved my bacon on the Korean DMZ in winter of 79. Wish I could find a pair!
Thanks, Randall! 😃
I have the sleep shirt... USAF issue though. It's about 20-25 years old now but still like new.
I have some Brown poly undies to wear, they are so old these have 25% wool to them as well as Polypropylene and Nylon for the rest. It is very useful.
I have the Beige waffle top and bottom issue, Gen 3. Mine was issued in Ft.Hood in 2009
That’s really cool man! Thanks for sharing
Bear suit top and bottoms.
I liked the brown cold weather long sleeved undershirt. I liked it because it had the buttoned v neck. i could wear it and no one would know. While in uniform or in civilian cloths.
Loved the sleep shirt, even after my service was over, I wore one for years.
I noticed your Garmin Instinct 2. I have the same exact watch and color, and I love it!
My Dad was career Air Force...as a kid&teen I had winter and summer flightsuits,jackets,etc.but I remember best the winter wool flightsuit that saved my ass doing z paper route at 4:30 am in Illinois!
When I first saw the stains I thought that the left lower stain was a guy jumping with a parachute.
LOL!!! Me Too!!
I have the old sleep shirt that has 2 buttons and made of nylon acetate, I got as an alternative to the wool M51 flannel shirt or even the WW2 wool sweater to go with olive green M65 cold wet or cold dry uniform :) I'll try to get one like your's as well :)
I use to have a similar shirt, it was a foreign milsurp, I loved the collar, it folded, and when you unfolded it. It would cover your mouth. It would keep you warm for a bit even into the upper 20s.
Sleep shirt under a BDU shirt was warmer than a field jacket over it. Like has been said, though, they wear very quickly when used as an outer layer.
thank you for your service
Before my time. I had the brown wool sweater that went under your BDU top.
As a former 11B from 80s though the 99 trying to get issued a new sleeping bag was next to impossible from most of the posts C.I.F. then having to do mandatory turn in to unit supply to be cleaned. Then receive extreme cold weather returned or vs versa. Why I snagged up a gortex sleeping system when I got the chance. To many C.I.F. playing games with soldiers turning in TA-50.
Still have and use my brown ploypro when needed.
And the sleeping hat hat was just like it. I loved those things
old canvas sleeping bags (after feathers were replaced with fiber, freeze your ass off) NIB came with the light weight sleep shirt and a snoopy cap of same material. Pre poly. thin, not bruched. Ide was to keep the bag clean for head and body oil.
It’s cool how you stressed that particular gear serve particular purposes. Here’s what I did about insulation: getting sick of having too many sleeves while layering, I took an old wool shirt and cut off the sleeves and collar for my first layer. Problem solved.
Nicely done! Remember to size up or down when layering. I am looking to layer two M-65 liners and may try 1 large and 1 XL (or M and L). My issue is with too many high neck collars, even when sizing up you never seem to be able to get all the collars closed without choking yourself, so I try to layer crew necks layers with jackets that have higher collar. A scarf can always fill any dead air space if one feels the need.
I buy outer clothing a size or two larger for this very reason. The cutoff and wool pants is followed by a collarless zippered wool sweater (military) and a military coverall in woodland camo. I adjust as needed. My gear is a mix of military and civilian stuff, because I try to be as efficient as possible. I hate modern camo patterns-the light grays fade to white and I’ve had deer pick me out. Woodland lasts much longer.
I buy outer clothing a size or two larger for this very reason. The cutoff and wool pants is followed by a collarless zippered wool sweater (military) and a military coverall in woodland camo. I adjust as needed. My gear is a mix of military and civilian stuff, because I try to be as efficient as possible. I hate modern camo patterns-the light grays fade to white and I’ve had deer pick me out. Woodland lasts much longer.
I like it wished my surplus store had those
I liked the OD field pants. M-65? Maybe? Great overpant. Brought mine home '81.
Bought one long ago; used it only for several camping nights; that was a xxl but it was very tight at the arms and the shirt sticked to the material of my sleeping bag; not my best nights outside...
I still have a set of the light and heavy brown Polypros hahahahaha nice
Right on.
I got 2 sets of the brown polys ...I use them alot in the winter in nw pa
I have the green sleep shirt... Great layers
U.S.M.C 0311 here 12yrs I have one of those army sleep shirts I got at the Army clothing sales still have it. I had to replace the zipper
Still hard to beat a woobie ( poncho liner) I still sleep under one every night, winter and summer.
Oh man a10 whistle love it you knew you were safe I miss the 5 button sweaters that's what I miss
I do facility maintenance one of my rules is if it's cold enough you need a jacket it's to cold to paint!!
If i need more than a tee shirt to be comfortable i don't paint.
My paint said down to 50f which is low enough for this MS boy to wear a warming layer 🤣
Looks like a cool product, very nice for CC. I will keep my eyes open for some.
Bought something similar from Duluth Trading last month. Maybe I can compare and contrast.
Never got much bang for the buck out of the polypros. Never kept me that warm. Now the ugly brown three button sweater? Toasty warm goodness!!! Still use mine on cold days. Love it!!
Yeah... I'll be picking one up. Thanks! I am not overweight, but I AM tall. Between that and CCW, that extra bit of length and bagginess would be awesome.
I'm 5'9 and L is super long on me
I liked the 5 button brown wool sweater better but the green sleeper shirt was nice.
sleep shirt plus the sleep hat (which was part of the sleeping bag issue?) were great. I would wear sleep shirt, then the field jacket liner, then my BDU shirt. If it was raining, I wore the WW jacket (later the goretex). I never had a Graf jacket made, but I did obtain a parka liner that I wore under the WW jacket
What about graf gloves
They wanted my sleep shirt back when I retired. Almost everyone wore the polypros wrong1 The are not "sweaters" they do not go over the t-shirt. they are the first layer next to skin.
I loved mine until after 20 years of use it met it’s demise! I thought that it was warmer than the browns with way less bulk!
Nothing beats 100% wool. I've worn wool from WW1 pants and shirts for 40 years in winter in Vermont. Wool gets wet but stays warm. If taken care of lasts for years. I would buy newer stuff for winter but the older ones aren't worn out yet, not even thin or patched. I don't wear a sleeping shirt...
I have one of these as well, I like it a lot.
I remember those sleep shirts, they worked well in the Artic
I like the mint green fuzzy jacket with the big pockets.
WAFFLE TOP GANG RISE UP! but for real I am a sucker for waffletop
cool that yer out in the wilderness, but you have a sprinkler in the background.
Your wife is right. And it puts the concealed in concealed carry. I want one.