To the comments about SABR working or not - This is more of mind game rather than an offensive weapon. This sneak attack may not have a high success rate itself but puts a question in the server's mind every time he's on his second serve. If it wins a point, it's an added bonus.
but if the server knows that SABR has a low success rate, then his mind will not care whether Roger do SABR or not. Either way, the server will have the advantages
It's all mind games. Since Roger does it so rarely, the opponent may not expect it. It doesn't matter if it has a low success rate or not it forces the opponent to react different to a normal return.
the thing is that it just makes your opponent feel like they have to hit a really good serve, that makes presure on them, eventualy they can make some more double faults because of that
I just love how even though the SABR doesn’t work the first two times with Rafa, Roger doesn’t give up and sticks with it and on the third attempt is successful. Speaks volumes about him/his play style in that he’s not easily wavered and is determined to get the shot right, no matter what it takes to get there. ❤️
Doesn't matter who the opponent is, just comes down to execution. This is a small sample size (3) so can't really tell if it works against Nadal or not.
Plus, it´s not supposed to work everytime. It´s to make the other guy think "will he do it now or not?". And we all know, doubts usually are deadly in tennis.
sabr is more a game of distracting the opponents concentration rather than winning the point itself so it would improper to assess its efficacy in terms of number of points won
Kyrgios: hold my AO trophy. Will also say that I intentionally hit a half-volley dropshot return winner back in 2014 before it was cool. And so, I guess, did quite a few experimentally-minded amateurs up and down the country. It's hard to pull it off but it's not hard to come up with the idea. My ex hitting partner copied it from me and now claims I copied him 😉
Just like in life, your success depends on how good you are to find solutions to the situations life throws at you. Life is like a tennis match! "Solution finder", well said Gaurav.
@@vialetti absolutely right you are vialetti the tennis match has so much resemblance to an actual life that’s what makes it such a beautiful game. Rafa is really an inspiring person. :)
Federer the most well rounded player ever. Service 10/10 Forehand 10/10 Baseline play 10/10 Net play 10/10 Technique 10/10 Mentality 10/10 We saw him trying the SABR for the first time 2 times in a ROW unsuccessfuly and then tries it for 3rd time with the same confidence like the first one....successfuly!
Baseline play 7/10, his backhand is too inconsistent, especially against heavy topspin. Nadal and Djokovic are better but yes, his forehand, serve and techniques are awesome
+anonymousLeroy Yeah fed's baseline game definitely declined. He was the best baseliner in the game in his prime, along with Nadal. But prime Djokovic is even more solid and conaistent than both of them I think.
Harry Potter Well, Djokovic is certainly more of a baseline wall and never seems to miss, but I'd put Fed and Rafa ahead of him in terms of attacking play from the baseline.
Koullex I really like Feds gane, am a big fan. But: baseline play. No. Fed's top spin backhand is both technically slightly incorrect and does not have a lot of power. It is a liability. Which is why he has a hard time beating Nadal. If you want to see great technique in single handed backhands, study Edberg, Gasquet and Wawrinka. Nadal can't beat Wawrinka just by playing to his backhand lije he does against Fed. They all do one thing that Fed does not: Get their backs rotated very quickly. That way, they can generate power by turning their bodies. Federers is too late turning hus back, and then he has to use hus forearm to try to generate power, which produces a lot of errors. Also: Volleys. Feds volleys are really good, but Edbergs were much better. Same goes for John McEnroe, Pete Sampras.
This is why I loved watching Agassi. Vs the big hitting servers he would take a few steps TOWARDS the service box to receive the serve. I guess so the ball is at a lower height so easier to hit flat. Still my favourite returner of serve.
Doesnt matter he won the match!! The SABR is not only about winning the point! Its also about keeping your opponent sharp and on his toes every serving point!!
Anyone else notice how 2015-17 federer walks with like a strut. Good ol 00-10 federer didnt have it and i cant remember much from the years inbetween but ever since cincinnati 2015 he has this like strut to his walk, he just looks different
Nadal plays strong defense so the SABR wouldn't work on him in the long run maybe for a quick few points here and there but for Nadal he'll adapt quickly to it.
The action of Federer is not that risky. Every skilled player, professional is not needed, can manage the serve to a level that he/she will not be hit. The complex parts is to return such service, that’s a quality
SABR is very strong in double I do it all the time but I think its weak in single because the quality of the approach shot is not good enough compare to how much terrain the net player has to cover.
@@miguelbarahona6636 For what? 2 out of 3 SABR came to Nadal's tally on this match, played on 2015, his worst year ever, and on indoor hardcourt, Nadal's worst surface, not that effective against him I'd say
@@mariodoblado668 As few comenters below agree, the SABR puts pressure on the opponent´s 2nd serve. As a mind game, I can argue it was effective (Federer won the match).
@@miguelbarahona6636 Read the video's title and you'll know what I'm refering to, Fed won the match not only because of the SABR, but because he simply is better on that surface and specially that year overall (2GS finals)
It's basically a weak half volley from the back of the box, which generally sets up a relatively easy passing shot. Might trip up a few lower level players but won't fool the upper crust.
Federer haciendo esos 2 primeros "SABR" con poca confianza como si fuera coger mariposas en la red y teniendo en frente a Nadal que es un experto o si no el mejor en los passing shots, indudablemente dará como resultado un par de puntos perdidos para quien se atreva a subir a la red con esa actitud.
A lot of people are missing the point. This shot isn't about winning high % of points. It's intended to throw off the other guy on his second serve by keeping him guessing. If Roger wins the point, that's just a bonus.
is never abt the sabr itself. using it is like flexing to ur opponent that you got so many methods to win a pt against him-- that is the true spirit of sabr..... can fuck u up in a 100 different ways
SABR makes an excellent tactics if the opponent is performing particularly poor second serves or imperfect passing shots for whatever reasons. Also, it is a mental trick to disrupt the rhythm and the opponent's game altogether if you are already winning. It seems very good at shortening playing time in long tournaments against lesser players...
Yeah, this is not really something that is offensive. Moreso, a mind trick to dazzle the opponent on the second serve. Once, Djokovic got hit by it on the second serve, and he just ended up flopping the backhand shot.
Just stepping up close to the net on a second serve. Takes skill to pull off, but can have a psychologically detrimental effect on opponents. No idea why every time the commentators yell, "sabre".
Serve and volley players in McEnroes time would have got ate up by players today, you cannot live up there like you use to, the power and new racquets have killed old school tennis, Wimbledon is about the only surface you can really do good on it with because the low shots and bad bounces
Well Third time lucky for sabr so I would say it did ruffle nadal a bit. More importantly nadal stepped inside the lions den and federer showed who is the king.
Murray can also do it too, he did it against Federer in a charity exhibition, I believe Murray also won the point. They both have a really attacking return on their opponents second serves.
I don't understand how this SABR is special at all or why its different. Isn't this what serve and volley players already do? Can someone please explain? :3
you cannot understand because you do not practice tennis , in fact it's a very very difficult shot, imagine a half volley with a serve of 100 Km minimum. And in this generation, I have never seen another player who did it, so...........
Uchiha Sasuke ur returning the shot before the server even gets ready. It puts them off balance. A serve and volley is sorta the same thing except, ur serving obviously
Yeah so let me just throw it out there that will only work once or twice against the likes of Rafa and Novak it’s like giving them a open target that they aren’t going to miss
So eh, yes. Yes it does. There you go. You’re welcome. Nah but what does this show? That the sabr only worked 33% of the time against Nadal, instead of the conventional 40-50%? Ok.
So sick of this crap. Like he inverted a new shot. Players were doing this when he was an itch in his daddy’s pants. The meat riding on RF is astounding
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To the comments about SABR working or not - This is more of mind game rather than an offensive weapon. This sneak attack may not have a high success rate itself but puts a question in the server's mind every time he's on his second serve. If it wins a point, it's an added bonus.
vijju k spot on man excellent explanation
but if the server knows that SABR has a low success rate, then his mind will not care whether Roger do SABR or not. Either way, the server will have the advantages
It's all mind games. Since Roger does it so rarely, the opponent may not expect it. It doesn't matter if it has a low success rate or not it forces the opponent to react different to a normal return.
Which basically means that it works against weak minded players, not against someone like Nadal, mind games don't work against him.
the thing is that it just makes your opponent feel like they have to hit a really good serve, that makes presure on them, eventualy they can make some more double faults because of that
While some would fear for their life when standing in front of a ball that fast, (not many) others such as Federer run towards it
Wtf u talkin bout
@@bartholomewlyons exactly 😂 Players hit fast shots all the time and everyone runs up to volley at some point in a match
They are at pro level. So they should get used to these crazy ball spins and trajectories.
This comments is so fuckin idiotic...scared of life..what a pussy
Haven't read a comment that stupid in a long time
I just love how even though the SABR doesn’t work the first two times with Rafa, Roger doesn’t give up and sticks with it and on the third attempt is successful. Speaks volumes about him/his play style in that he’s not easily wavered and is determined to get the shot right, no matter what it takes to get there. ❤️
Doesn't matter who the opponent is, just comes down to execution. This is a small sample size (3) so can't really tell if it works against Nadal or not.
Plus, it´s not supposed to work everytime. It´s to make the other guy think "will he do it now or not?". And we all know, doubts usually are deadly in tennis.
If SABR is not a High percentage winning shot then the other player could care less about whether Federer does SABR or not
“We have done research and can confirm that SABR works against Nadal”
Shows 3 tries
sabr is more a game of distracting the opponents concentration rather than winning the point itself so it would improper to assess its efficacy in terms of number of points won
For those who don't know SABR means: Sneak Attack by Roger
04zambo lmao. Hahaha.
Kyrgios also does it well, also against rafa
Only player apart from Vilas to have his names on a shot. Gran willy is how we call to the famous tweener
@@MichaelScott261 Kyrgios does a SNAK, not the same !
@@AmbitiousAlgerian he also does a SABR
we're so glad to have Roger. nobody else does this. Roger adds new levels to Tennis and makes it more interesting
Kyrgios: hold my AO trophy. Will also say that I intentionally hit a half-volley dropshot return winner back in 2014 before it was cool. And so, I guess, did quite a few experimentally-minded amateurs up and down the country. It's hard to pull it off but it's not hard to come up with the idea. My ex hitting partner copied it from me and now claims I copied him 😉
U fool ..Sampras use to do this a lot
He even did it as 40 ur old vs fed in 2007
Rafa is the most accomplished solution finder and improviser in a match he can't be tricked by these things
Just like in life, your success depends on how good you are to find solutions to the situations life throws at you. Life is like a tennis match!
"Solution finder", well said Gaurav.
@@vialetti absolutely right you are vialetti the tennis match has so much resemblance to an actual life that’s what makes it such a beautiful game. Rafa is really an inspiring person. :)
Federer the most well rounded player ever. Service 10/10 Forehand 10/10 Baseline play 10/10 Net play 10/10 Technique 10/10 Mentality 10/10 We saw him trying the SABR for the first time 2 times in a ROW unsuccessfuly and then tries it for 3rd time with the same confidence like the first one....successfuly!
Baseline play 7/10, his backhand is too inconsistent, especially against heavy topspin. Nadal and Djokovic are better but yes, his forehand, serve and techniques are awesome
From 04-07 I'd say his baseline play was 10/10, about 8/10 from 08-12 and I'd even say 6.5-7/10 nowadays
+anonymousLeroy Yeah fed's baseline game definitely declined. He was the best baseliner in the game in his prime, along with Nadal. But prime Djokovic is even more solid and conaistent than both of them I think.
Harry Potter
Well, Djokovic is certainly more of a baseline wall and never seems to miss, but I'd put Fed and Rafa ahead of him in terms of attacking play from the baseline.
Koullex
I really like Feds gane, am a big fan.
But: baseline play.
No. Fed's top spin backhand is both technically slightly incorrect and does not have a lot of power.
It is a liability. Which is why he has a hard time beating Nadal.
If you want to see great technique in single handed backhands, study Edberg, Gasquet and Wawrinka.
Nadal can't beat Wawrinka just by playing to his backhand lije he does against Fed.
They all do one thing that Fed does not: Get their backs rotated very quickly.
That way, they can generate power by turning their bodies.
Federers is too late turning hus back, and then he has to use hus forearm to try to generate power, which produces a lot of errors.
Also:
Volleys. Feds volleys are really good, but Edbergs were much better.
Same goes for John McEnroe, Pete Sampras.
This is why I loved watching Agassi. Vs the big hitting servers he would take a few steps TOWARDS the service box to receive the serve. I guess so the ball is at a lower height so easier to hit flat. Still my favourite returner of serve.
It's just so cool to see him do that
I can see Nadal thinking: okay I've got this, you don't really have to teach me how to play a passing shot. Remember we both played 2008 FO final.
just like everything else against nadal: sometimes but not often
Lol Rog is such a gangsta I love it!
dat backhand volley, my god
Doesnt matter he won the match!! The SABR is not only about winning the point! Its also about keeping your opponent sharp and on his toes every serving point!!
Nadal its always sharp and on his toes every single point of the match.
It can, but with that backhand of 2017 specially!
Basel 2015 - first victory of Fed's 4 in row
Hahaha Nadal is the master of passing shots
Anyone else notice how 2015-17 federer walks with like a strut. Good ol 00-10 federer didnt have it and i cant remember much from the years inbetween but ever since cincinnati 2015 he has this like strut to his walk, he just looks different
I noticed he used one in the AO 2017 vs Nadal.
I love u so so much legends..
He did it again in Indian Wells 2017 to Nadal!
Nadal plays strong defense so the SABR wouldn't work on him in the long run maybe for a quick few points here and there but for Nadal he'll adapt quickly to it.
The action of Federer is not that risky. Every skilled player, professional is not needed, can manage the serve to a level that he/she will not be hit. The complex parts is to return such service, that’s a quality
Still trying to figure out how the ball moved like that off Fed's first return
SABR is very strong in double I do it all the time but I think its weak in single because the quality of the approach shot is not good enough compare to how much terrain the net player has to cover.
In doubles this is a kind of expected type of return, it doesn't qualify for SABR (sneak attack....)
It's a second serve break point weapon I reckon, wouldn't use it much in a match. Sabr definitely has its place in Feds arsenal
Fst shot - insult
Second shot- great insult
Third shot - thank god federer got some respect at last😂
This is the 4th RECOMMENDED SABR video in 2 days... wtf is going on?
the purpose of this tactic is to approach the net when returning serve. in that sense all three shots here are successful
When you feel at your best shape and your opponent is tired or injured everything works even a bad dropshot.
Excuses?
@@miguelbarahona6636 For what? 2 out of 3 SABR came to Nadal's tally on this match, played on 2015, his worst year ever, and on indoor hardcourt, Nadal's worst surface, not that effective against him I'd say
@@mariodoblado668 As few comenters below agree, the SABR puts pressure on the opponent´s 2nd serve. As a mind game, I can argue it was effective (Federer won the match).
@@miguelbarahona6636 Read the video's title and you'll know what I'm refering to, Fed won the match not only because of the SABR, but because he simply is better on that surface and specially that year overall (2GS finals)
@@mariodoblado668 The question is "Is it effective?" I said, yes.
It's hard to take that lefty spin on the rise
The failures makes you appreciate this attacking tactic from RF a lot better. Because of the risks involved if it doesn't come off.
I would say it does work like 1 out of 3 times or something..
Rafa is the best passing shot maker of all time, it doesnt work
federer is the godfather of tennis sport it will works
Like in the last one.
Federer was just trying his luck. He knows he will lose
@@mayankdewli1010 But he won the match. Whatever he did clearly worked.
He tried cutting tike from rafael nadal as his swing requires time!
Sad but that's already vintage tennis
it works against noobs not against the great and mighty nadal
It's basically a weak half volley from the back of the box, which generally sets up a relatively easy passing shot. Might trip up a few lower level players but won't fool the upper crust.
smartly and aggressively blunted by Rafa 😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯 2 - 1
1 out of 3. Not bad. Fed needs to use it sparingly that way it can work a lot. Everyone has adjusted now lol.
I think we don't have enough data on the SABR vs. Rafa to draw a clear conclusion.
The problem with the SABR is the spin ..if the server putt more spin in the serve the receiver will have more trouble but roger is the king 👑
King of what ? Being 3rd behind Rafa and Novak ?
When well executed, it works against anybody.
Works other way as well "When serve is well played, it never works."
Federer haciendo esos 2 primeros "SABR" con poca confianza como si fuera coger mariposas en la red y teniendo en frente a Nadal que es un experto o si no el mejor en los passing shots, indudablemente dará como resultado un par de puntos perdidos para quien se atreva a subir a la red con esa actitud.
it works!
Yes
I dont even know how to first sabr ball bounced so weird
SABR works against any top 5 players!
Worked well in Miami. Sometimes it did. Sometimes it didn't
A lot of people are missing the point. This shot isn't about winning high % of points. It's intended to throw off the other guy on his second serve by keeping him guessing. If Roger wins the point, that's just a bonus.
is never abt the sabr itself.
using it is like flexing to ur opponent that you got so many methods to win a pt against him-- that is the true spirit of sabr..... can fuck u up in a 100 different ways
Gherbi Hicham Federer doesn't need mind games to beat nadal...
He just does it as a change up!
Yes he does, he’s 15-24 H2H 😂. And 4-9 in Slam meetings
SABR makes an excellent tactics if the opponent is performing particularly poor second serves or imperfect passing shots for whatever reasons. Also, it is a mental trick to disrupt the rhythm and the opponent's game altogether if you are already winning. It seems very good at shortening playing time in long tournaments against lesser players...
It's a scummy tactic and should be illegal.
"You have been sabred"
I feel Murray and Novak have one of the greatest passing shots
best is definitely nadal..a good passing shot need strong topspin.
+Tevez Charlotte plus the banana
This was just before Nike went crap
Conclusion- sometimes it does sometimes doesn't.
Where's the remaining points of the game!
In general, going to net against Nadal is a terrible idea, unless it's a fast court.
Wait why did the ball bounce like that at the start 0:04
Nothing to discuss. For Federer, it is just another shot whoever be the opponents. It may go positive or negative like every other shot.
Third time is a charm
what happens to the ball there? Weird bounce, am i dreaming?
Well thankfully we have this Wimbledon to find ou... Nevermind.
now watch Fed use the SABR on Nadal during 2017 AOpen final. thanks
Obviously yes
please anyone can tell what is full form of SABR ,
thanks in advance
Sneak attack by Roger. Welcome, in advance
@@travelhopper7616 Thanks a ton Man
Yeah, this is not really something that is offensive. Moreso, a mind trick to dazzle the opponent on the second serve. Once, Djokovic got hit by it on the second serve, and he just ended up flopping the backhand shot.
does actual english work when titling a video?
He should have serve way out right at Roger .
Work
In conclusion, it worked 1/3 times. Success rate: pretty low.
If it’s so great why did fed stop doing it
Just stepping up close to the net on a second serve. Takes skill to pull off, but can have a psychologically detrimental effect on opponents. No idea why every time the commentators yell, "sabre".
Serve and volley players in McEnroes time would have got ate up by players today, you cannot live up there like you use to, the power and new racquets have killed old school tennis, Wimbledon is about the only surface you can really do good on it with because the low shots and bad bounces
Not anymore
And your point is?
Well Third time lucky for sabr so I would say it did ruffle nadal a bit. More importantly nadal stepped inside the lions den and federer showed who is the king.
Murray can also do it too, he did it against Federer in a charity exhibition, I believe Murray also won the point.
They both have a really attacking return on their opponents second serves.
Boo!!! You're a Murray Fan!! Boo
Federer is the goat murray is just a player
Well, does it?
Roger gives Playing inside the baseline a WHOLE new meaning.
I don't understand how this SABR is special at all or why its different. Isn't this what serve and volley players already do? Can someone please explain? :3
you cannot understand because you do not practice tennis , in fact it's a very very difficult shot, imagine a half volley with a serve of 100 Km minimum. And in this generation, I have never seen another player who did it, so...........
Uchiha Sasuke ur returning the shot before the server even gets ready. It puts them off balance. A serve and volley is sorta the same thing except, ur serving obviously
Uchiha Sasuke it's also a mind game, and can demoralize people, I've used it, and it definitely hurts the opponent
PanthersHornetsforLife Cool thanks.
***** I don't see what the problem is. I'm from America and I'm a high school player. What's your point?
33.3% success
Yeah so let me just throw it out there that will only work once or twice against the likes of Rafa and Novak it’s like giving them a open target that they aren’t going to miss
what is sabr
it didn't really work for nadal
guy is on different level
So eh, yes. Yes it does.
There you go. You’re welcome.
Nah but what does this show? That the sabr only worked 33% of the time against Nadal, instead of the conventional 40-50%?
Ok.
Still, 19 > 15 ......
Still, 36>31.....
ryan_jane Still...
Married,4 kids > Fiance
Still 23 w>15 w...
ryan_jane Still.....
302>160
11 French opens > 1 French open
It's 1 out of 3 so..
Well it doesn't work because one Nadal has a good shot and it's nadal, he don't play around wth these kind of games.
No.
SABR will work on Nadal.
Wtf I love Roger but he didn't invent this. Look at old school tennis
Nah only SABN works against him..
Sabr was a failure as a strategy.
Hence fed gave it up ultimately
you've never watched tennis have you
@@jackmihoff9836
Yeah ithought it's porn..
However when joker defeated fed at sw19, it was most entertaining..
Now sulk
@@abeguy7981 lol you dont know this sport at all you fake piece of shit
rodjeur, faux hétéro lifté, zoolander du tennis. fade et stérile. Blue Steel
Works well against Djokovic, not as much against Nadal where the shots have much more spin and variability
So sick of this crap. Like he inverted a new shot. Players were doing this when he was an itch in his daddy’s pants. The meat riding on RF is astounding
that's why Nadal *lost* that match..
😁
Nope