@@AlexHutchingsMusic I’m interested in some of the duel sounds you were getting too. Does it have a looper? And it looks like it can apply sounds to certain frequencies so the bass notes for eg can have different treatment to the higher strings, if I’m reading that right
i love how easy that software looks, very much like a deep dive in the GR55 for building your tones. This with a GT pedal and you're a for away! Nice playing on all the promo stuff dude, love your work! :)
Dude this is great. I'm totally into electronic music like lofi, downtempo and synthwave...a guitarist in a keyboard player's world. This would fix all my problems! Just gotta work out that price tag...
Have to say Alex they all sound great mate. Looking forward to seeing and hearing more on the. Happy Days. All the best from the Lake District👍👍🎶🎶🎶🎶😎😎😎😎
It would be great if Roland made an optional pickup with internal electronics. I've owned quite a few of the Roland/Boss guitar synths and VG products at one time or another. The external control box always kind of bothered me. I felt that I had to be extra careful that so I didn't snag the pickup wire on something. The control box always looked a little clunky hanging on the front of the guitar. I'll have to say that the sounds in your demo are the most expressive guitar synth patches I've ever heard. Hats off to the folks at Roland.
Thanks for the video - great as always! I wonder what's the main difference between this synth and the SY1000, is this intended to be the compact version of the SY1000?
No... both are totally different. The SY-1000 is a subtractive synth that has osc synth, gr-300 and dynamic synth and you build your sounds from different parameters like LFO, filter etc.. Also sy-1000 has guitar / bass and other instrument modelling which isn't inside GM-800. The GM-800 is more like GR-55 that uses PCM (pulse code modulation) synthesis etc.
Hey Alex, I haven’t seen much sustain (Boss calls this Hold 1 if I’ve read it correctly in the manual - CC#64) or sostenuto examples which I would expect could make playing piano and other keys patches easier on guitar, more like I would play piano. If I connect a (piano) sustain pedal, expression pedal or sustain pedal (pianist use this for half pedaling among others) which allows all values between 0-127 to the expression inputs, could I then send the CC64 for sustain and would that work on the patches?
Excited for this! Just not excited for a different pickup system. I dont understand why that was a necessary move, i guess? Yes i know theres a conversion box, but still thats a separate cost, power supply, and set of cords to manage. I'd be happy to buy the separate box if it had features like ABY splitting between existing roland GK enabled systems though. Now I have to figure out if I want to get the new pickup and have two guitars "modified" or keep the current guitar with GK-13 and have a box manage the conversion. Im excited either way, the sounds are great from the demos.
The new serial GKC seems way more sturdy and reliable than old GKCs with its TRS jacks. Now let's hope for a new VG99 with AIRD modelled guitar models (if that's even possible at all) and hope that it wouldn't come out in 10 years from now... I am mostly excited with the new GK5 and serial GK cable atm. Gigging as I am, after my VG88 kicked the bucket, I went for a while with a GR55 but the lack of Guitar in made me go for a GP10 which I still use. Let's hope for an equivalent guitar oriented multifx processor with the new pickup input. Like a GP800 for example to go with the new naming scheme.
hi alex, i’m a huge fan of yours for many years! i’m also a midi guitarist using the rmc box for nylon strings. do you thing there will be any extra tracking lag/issues when using the 13 pin converter box to the new TRS format. thank you sir!
Thanks mate. Re the GK-3 question. Absolutely not, it works extremely well with the conversion box. In fact I spent most of my time using that method in my sound creation process. Cheers for now 👍🙏🎸
Having just been introduced to this on another channel, this is kind of what I'd like to see; a bigger sound demo. Like to see a more expressive solo brass/woodwind instrument like sax or trumpet.
A beautiful demonstration of the new onboard processing power. I noticed a new Bass pickup, but are there any bass-specific sounds, or an add-on pack for us bassists? I have 2 basses with 13 pins out and a 14yr old VB99-vbass which needs serious updating
What is needed is a 200 series format that we can load 20 presets of our own choosing from the cloud (included in the price of the pedal) that can be used without any GK pickup just our guitar. no whacky car crash sounds or useless scatting just the ones we select. we dont need 1200 tones that we will never be able to incorporate into any song. just what we want, not what is decided for us. Then add a sequencer.
Curious too since the Andertons video said the bass pickup works with 4, 5 and 6 string basses so would this mean, 6, 7 and 8 string guitars would work?
You know what, I've not as yet because it's been a 'secret' until this week but I've itching to use it. I have a gig tonight actually might just take it. I've spent so long not being able to I forgot that now I suddenly can. Very exciting Thanks for reminding me.... All the best 👍🙏🎸
Sounds very good! Tracking seems good here, hope tracking is just like this if i purchase. The tracking on the GR-55 was so bad I could not play it in public. Ghost notes every time I practice, really.The GR-1 had better tracking than the GR-55!
Hi Alex ! You are always great !! I have a question: is it possible to plug a usb keyboard into the usb "memory" socket and play the gm-800 sounds by that keyboard ?
hi alex, thank you so much for responding. i am an ancient member of the midi guitar community-i used to do clinics for the old shadow gtm6 back in the 80s. am i correct in thinking that i have seen you playing an rmc equipped guitar with roland gr units? i still use the gr 33 because the newer versions had some kind of issue with a low frequency interference with piezo type pickups. i am hoping that this new unit will have solved this issue. pardon my long worded response. cheers from texas. Chris Carrington
I just picked up the guitar again after a 33 year Hihateus and was always shunned this but Now Omg If I get this you will never see me again 😅which most will enjoy my absence anyway so this is a win win Saving up starts today
How would you recommend using this live? Direct to PA? Can't imagine a tube amp would pair well with this, maybe a super clean thing like a Fender Twin.
Please Alex, tell your Japanse friends to make a SY-500. I really like my SY-300 but it’s way to big for a compact pedalboard. Also like the SY-300 it should have a send but now with a S T E R E O return! Would be nice. By the way, the GM-800 sounds as my JV-1080 from the nineties.
Does this work seamlessly with other guitar pedals? For example could I put this I a chain with a looper and delay pedals? I am just worried as it has a special pickup etc. Thank you for your help, I am quite new to guitar synths!
Hello friend, I'm a grs lover, I have the gr-55, gr-33 and gr-20, I'm thinking about purchasing the gm-800, but I have some doubts. From your point of view, has it improved the issues of ghost notes and latency in relation to the grs?
All I am looking for is GK-3 based solution that controls a polyphonic synthesizer without glitches (pitch to glitch). I tried everything and I am sick of the glitches. If boss had such a pedal/processor, that houses classic synthesizers such as DX7/Oberheim etc and you can edit all the oscillators/voices/filters/VCO's it would be great. This GM-800 seems to be just another preset noise box. Does Boss somehow have such a product that mimics real synthesizers one can and edit at will?. A different synth engine per string would be fantastic.
So my guitars are reduced to a midi stringboard. How to acces my GT-1000core? Two cables? Dear Alex, what is your solution? Can we expect an update so the GK-out could be selected as a normal guitar signal output?
Cool beans, man. Alex, does the GM-800 require you to put a hex pick-up on your guitar, like in the old days with guitar synth units by Roland and others? Or has the A to D conversion gotten so fast that an ordinary pick-up will do the job?
You can see it does on the bottom of the body of his guitar - they call it the GK-5 pickup - but thisnew hex pickup is a lot smaller and the cable is a lot better than the 13-pin cables I've been using for 25 years or so. What a brilliant idea to use quarter inch TRS. Just like a stereo guitar cable (in appearance anyway).
SY-1000 is more of a synthesis based around subtractive synthesis (correct me if im wrong?) and also has guitar / bass / instrument modelling. SY-1000 has 4 paths. 3 of them paths are for the synthesizers and instrument modelling and 1 path is for normal guitar. Gm-800 is zencore system based around PCM (pulse code modulation) synthesis. It has 4 paths for synthesis only and 1 path for rhythm / drums etc.. There is no guitar / bass / instrument modelling in gm-800, however there is guitar and bass and other instrument samples in it.
Boss devices sound so thin like sound is coming from far far away. The sounds are not present at all. Is it because whole bunch of overtones are missing in each notes. Like there in no high end and low ends at all. People call it compressed sound but i dont understand if compressed sound sound like this.
What sound engines does it use? Midi(sampled sounds), synth(oscillators) or amp modeller? Sy300 gets its sound from synth(oscillators) only. But i liked the midi or sampled sounds of gr55? So i am confused what are the sound engines that gm800 uses? Is it just upgrade to sy300 or it has midi engine too like gr55 does?
Can BOSS GM-800 output these sounds without additional hardware? (Excluding obvious output device :D) Like do you have specialized pickups or any other hardware in your setup?
A few days ago I bought a gr 55 and to my great surprise at the end of the manual it says that it may contain products that cause cancer. Have you read that too???
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I got the notification from Anderson’s & came straight to Alex, this is the best sounding synth pedal from boss yet - thanks Alex, hope you’re well!
Thanks, Alex! That is amazing. The guitar is truly a universal instrument.
what is a universal instrument?
@@tusharjamwal the kazoo too
That flute sound. Wow 🔥
Yes indeed, very realistic. It’s a really fun machine for sure 👍🙏🎸
I feel like a snakes about to pop out of a hat when I heard that sound. 😂👏
@@geoffizhere1 too fucking real! 😂
Amazing as always, Maestro!
Thank you mate.. 🙏😎
This is insane! Can’t believe how authentic these sounds are. The piano and strings are mind blowing
Glad you enjoyed it. It's a great bit of kit for sure 👍🙏🎸
@@AlexHutchingsMusic I’m interested in some of the duel sounds you were getting too. Does it have a looper? And it looks like it can apply sounds to certain frequencies so the bass notes for eg can have different treatment to the higher strings, if I’m reading that right
Always on top with your demos, very melodic and fun ;)
Thanks Alex !
Thank you mate, much appreciated 👍🙏🎸
Sounds like the best synth 'pedal' ever, thanks Alex.
You look great in the Boss official promo video for GM-800. The effects are so cool. So many possibilities
Boss is a great guitar synth producer. This one I think will stand out. Alex shines as usual.
Man I love soundchecks! Checking... all... the sounds and that.
That’s cool man. Thanks for watching 👍🙏🎸
This sounds tremendous and finally a demo that actually demo's the product well. I'd expect this from you 👍🏼
Thanks so much Alex. This was a fun listen. I look forward to the more in-depth video.
i love how easy that software looks, very much like a deep dive in the GR55 for building your tones. This with a GT pedal and you're a for away! Nice playing on all the promo stuff dude, love your work! :)
Toccata sounds amazing 👍
Cheers Chris… the sounds are so powerful I love it 👍🙏🎸
incredible demo Alex. Pedal looks/sounds incredible. looking forward to learn more about it.
Great sounds. Anyway, after watching your former video, I'm definitely going to buy the BOSS ME 90.
Dude this is great. I'm totally into electronic music like lofi, downtempo and synthwave...a guitarist in a keyboard player's world. This would fix all my problems! Just gotta work out that price tag...
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Have to say Alex they all sound great mate. Looking forward to seeing and hearing more on the. Happy Days. All the best from the Lake District👍👍🎶🎶🎶🎶😎😎😎😎
I feel like you could create a whole video game soundtrack with this.
the tracking is insane.. very responsive. Would love to try this with bass 👍👍👍
How do you know it's any better than previous iterations?
@@rirrid5662 scroll up there is a video playing at the top
Holy crow. Sounds fantastic.
Wow! Who needs an orchestra! fantastic sounds!
the toccata and fugue oil d minor was amazing
It would be great if Roland made an optional pickup with internal electronics. I've owned quite a few of the Roland/Boss guitar synths and VG products at one time or another. The external control box always kind of bothered me. I felt that I had to be extra careful that so I didn't snag the pickup wire on something. The control box always looked a little clunky hanging on the front of the guitar. I'll have to say that the sounds in your demo are the most expressive guitar synth patches I've ever heard. Hats off to the folks at Roland.
WoW sounds fantastic
AMAZING...And that's a word i rarely use.
Thanks for the video - great as always! I wonder what's the main difference between this synth and the SY1000, is this intended to be the compact version of the SY1000?
No... both are totally different. The SY-1000 is a subtractive synth that has osc synth, gr-300 and dynamic synth and you build your sounds from different parameters like LFO, filter etc.. Also sy-1000 has guitar / bass and other instrument modelling which isn't inside GM-800. The GM-800 is more like GR-55 that uses PCM (pulse code modulation) synthesis etc.
Alex U are the Boss /Roland demo-guy! Simply the best ! Peace ✌🏻 cheers mate
Excellent demo. How do you find the new pickup? What are your thoughts THANKS
Thanks mate. Yeah it's great, tracks well.... 👍🙏🎸
Hey Alex,
I haven’t seen much sustain (Boss calls this Hold 1 if I’ve read it correctly in the manual - CC#64) or sostenuto examples which I would expect could make playing piano and other keys patches easier on guitar, more like I would play piano. If I connect a (piano) sustain pedal, expression pedal or sustain pedal (pianist use this for half pedaling among others) which allows all values between 0-127 to the expression inputs, could I then send the CC64 for sustain and would that work on the patches?
Excited for this! Just not excited for a different pickup system. I dont understand why that was a necessary move, i guess? Yes i know theres a conversion box, but still thats a separate cost, power supply, and set of cords to manage. I'd be happy to buy the separate box if it had features like ABY splitting between existing roland GK enabled systems though. Now I have to figure out if I want to get the new pickup and have two guitars "modified" or keep the current guitar with GK-13 and have a box manage the conversion.
Im excited either way, the sounds are great from the demos.
The new serial GKC seems way more sturdy and reliable than old GKCs with its TRS jacks. Now let's hope for a new VG99 with AIRD modelled guitar models (if that's even possible at all) and hope that it wouldn't come out in 10 years from now...
I am mostly excited with the new GK5 and serial GK cable atm.
Gigging as I am, after my VG88 kicked the bucket, I went for a while with a GR55 but the lack of Guitar in made me go for a GP10 which I still use. Let's hope for an equivalent guitar oriented multifx processor with the new pickup input. Like a GP800 for example to go with the new naming scheme.
hi alex, i’m a huge fan of yours for many years! i’m also a midi guitarist using the rmc box for nylon strings. do you thing there will be any extra tracking lag/issues when using the 13 pin converter box to the new TRS format. thank you sir!
Thanks mate. Re the GK-3 question. Absolutely not, it works extremely well with the conversion box. In fact I spent most of my time using that method in my sound creation process. Cheers for now 👍🙏🎸
Wooow boss amazing sounds the future.
Beautiful demo as always Alex! :) Do you believe this would work well with an acoustic guitar?
Alex you are Boss’s greatest investment! What is the difference between this unit and SY-1000? I bought the SY-1000 after watching you!
Isn't the sy1000 analog? If it is, then a world of differences.
Having just been introduced to this on another channel, this is kind of what I'd like to see; a bigger sound demo.
Like to see a more expressive solo brass/woodwind instrument like sax or trumpet.
A beautiful demonstration of the new onboard processing power. I noticed a new Bass pickup, but are there any bass-specific sounds, or an add-on pack for us bassists? I have 2 basses with 13 pins out and a 14yr old VB99-vbass which needs serious updating
What is needed is a 200 series format that we can load 20 presets of our own choosing from the cloud (included in the price of the pedal) that can be used without any GK pickup just our guitar. no whacky car crash sounds or useless scatting just the ones we select. we dont need 1200 tones that we will never be able to incorporate into any song. just what we want, not what is decided for us. Then add a sequencer.
Alex!! Thanks for sharing 😊
Bloody Love it!!!
i just wanted something to eat my lunch to and i couldnt eat lol
great demo, man! i guess i need this + looper and im off to some wild trips to god
Always great demos! Can I use the GK3?
yes but you'll need the proper boss converter called GKC-AD and the new boss serial trs cable
Es una locura! Me vuelvo loco!
Rhodes sounds are particularly excellent 👌
It really does! 👌
Amazing! But does this not have the COSM guitar pickup models ?
Love love love it!!!!! Quick question would the pick up work on an eight string guitar?
Curious too since the Andertons video said the bass pickup works with 4, 5 and 6 string basses so would this mean, 6, 7 and 8 string guitars would work?
@@aliensporebomb that’s what I am hoping for🥲
Sounds amazing. Would be perfect for me if it had onboard guitar sounds and tunings.
Can this emulate other kinds of guitar?
Alex...most of these youtube demo's are boring and unprofessional ..you are the best out there.
Hey Alex, are you using this with your looper to do live backing trax to play over at your restaurant gig?
You know what, I've not as yet because it's been a 'secret' until this week but I've itching to use it. I have a gig tonight actually might just take it. I've spent so long not being able to I forgot that now I suddenly can. Very exciting Thanks for reminding me.... All the best 👍🙏🎸
Hey it works pretty good how much does it cost
But Alex how do i use this in conjunction with my SY1000?
There is a special converter box… I’ll explain in my next video… I have a demo one coming up 👍🙏🎸
@@AlexHutchingsMusic I'll wait for it boss.
Sounds very good! Tracking seems good here, hope tracking is just like this if i purchase. The tracking on the GR-55 was so bad I could not play it in public. Ghost notes every time I practice, really.The GR-1 had better tracking than the GR-55!
Hi Alex ! You are always great !!
I have a question: is it possible to plug a usb keyboard into the usb "memory" socket and play the gm-800 sounds by that keyboard ?
No, you have to use 5-pin midi
@@BrockDavisson isn't it "class compliant"?
NICE!
Hi! Thank you for the amazing demo! I currently have a GR 55. Does this one also works with ans acoustic guitar? And does it have some drums as well?
Yes it has drum / rhythm programs
Thank you Alex! Will this do open tunings (like dadgad, open E etc…) from your standard tuned guitar? Sorry if I missed it😊
hi alex,
thank you so much for responding.
i am an ancient member of the midi guitar community-i used to do clinics for the old shadow gtm6 back in the 80s.
am i correct in thinking that i have seen you playing an rmc equipped guitar with roland gr units?
i still use the gr 33 because the newer versions had some kind of issue with a low frequency interference with piezo type pickups.
i am hoping that this new unit will have solved this issue.
pardon my long worded response.
cheers from texas.
Chris Carrington
Guitar just keeps getting better and better soon it will be the only one lol but fr that thing is really cool, my favorite is make a wish
Yes it’s so cool how far it’s being taken… I love this thing. Thanks for watching 👍🙏🎸
Be interesting to see tremolo, strumming, and ethnic sound !
I just picked up the guitar again after a 33 year Hihateus and was always shunned this but Now Omg If I get this you will never see me again 😅which most will enjoy my absence anyway so this is a win win Saving up starts today
I want a Boss ready Strat like the Roland ready strat(which I have).
Wonder if they'll make a Boss ready strat.
Or better yet, a Strat that does both.
Hello, Alex. First of all, congratulations for your music!
About Boss GM800, do you consider it to be replacing the SY200 or GR55?
Thank you!
It's a gr-55 replacement more than anything but only on the synth side because gm-800 doesn't do instrument modeling like gr-55 does.
Do you think it's time to mix both of these worlds creating a new GR unit?
Does this have a built in appregiator for each sound? Or is their a way we could do this? I NEED THIS THING!
It's a very interesting product, It's basically a Roland Synth with Guitar compatible/tailored inputs, from my understanding.
How would you recommend using this live? Direct to PA? Can't imagine a tube amp would pair well with this, maybe a super clean thing like a Fender Twin.
Please Alex, tell your Japanse friends to make a SY-500.
I really like my SY-300 but it’s way to big for a compact pedalboard.
Also like the SY-300 it should have a send but now with a S T E R E O return!
Would be nice.
By the way, the GM-800 sounds as my JV-1080 from the nineties.
Oh great boss ... ❤❤❤❤. master I love harp song. Very much
Interesting new gk pickup, I hope boss think this trough, maybe wireless upgrade and extended range like 7 string pickup.
Is there a way to connect to midi modules & VST ?
Does this work seamlessly with other guitar pedals? For example could I put this I a chain with a looper and delay pedals? I am just worried as it has a special pickup etc. Thank you for your help, I am quite new to guitar synths!
Hello friend, I'm a grs lover, I have the gr-55, gr-33 and gr-20, I'm thinking about purchasing the gm-800, but I have some doubts. From your point of view, has it improved the issues of ghost notes and latency in relation to the grs?
All I am looking for is GK-3 based solution that controls a polyphonic synthesizer without glitches (pitch to glitch). I tried everything and I am sick of the glitches. If boss had such a pedal/processor, that houses classic synthesizers such as DX7/Oberheim etc and you can edit all the oscillators/voices/filters/VCO's it would be great. This GM-800 seems to be just another preset noise box. Does Boss somehow have such a product that mimics real synthesizers one can and edit at will?. A different synth engine per string would be fantastic.
I was checking out keyboards yesterday but I think it just got solved by Boss!
Yeah man. This thing is nuts… definitely worth having in your tool box 😎👍🙏🎸
@@AlexHutchingsMusic I will definitely check it out, you are the best Alex!
So my guitars are reduced to a midi stringboard. How to acces my GT-1000core? Two cables?
Dear Alex, what is your solution?
Can we expect an update so the GK-out could be selected as a normal guitar signal output?
Which pickups are being used here?
Cool beans, man. Alex, does the GM-800 require you to put a hex pick-up on your guitar, like in the old days with guitar synth units by Roland and others? Or has the A to D conversion gotten so fast that an ordinary pick-up will do the job?
You can see it does on the bottom of the body of his guitar - they call it the GK-5 pickup - but thisnew hex pickup is a lot smaller and the cable is a lot better than the 13-pin cables I've been using for 25 years or so. What a brilliant idea to use quarter inch TRS. Just like a stereo guitar cable (in appearance anyway).
how do make the vf30 volume pedal work?
Alex please can you tell some differences between sy1000
SY-1000 is more of a synthesis based around subtractive synthesis (correct me if im wrong?) and also has guitar / bass / instrument modelling. SY-1000 has 4 paths. 3 of them paths are for the synthesizers and instrument modelling and 1 path is for normal guitar. Gm-800 is zencore system based around PCM (pulse code modulation) synthesis. It has 4 paths for synthesis only and 1 path for rhythm / drums etc.. There is no guitar / bass / instrument modelling in gm-800, however there is guitar and bass and other instrument samples in it.
Can you run this out the back to 2 monitors?
Is there anything the good man cannot do?! Amazing. Did you ever make any soundtracks/movie scores Alex?
How many user banks are there?
Want one!!
Hi brother WAV yes senpler?
Which is the MIDI adapter\converter? Brand, model?
Boss devices sound so thin like sound is coming from far far away. The sounds are not present at all. Is it because whole bunch of overtones are missing in each notes. Like there in no high end and low ends at all. People call it compressed sound but i dont understand if compressed sound sound like this.
Can you also plug a keyboard into it and use it a synth module?
Yes I believe you can… via the midi in 👍🙏🎸
@@AlexHutchingsMusicthat is a huge selling feature!
What sound engines does it use? Midi(sampled sounds), synth(oscillators) or amp modeller?
Sy300 gets its sound from synth(oscillators) only.
But i liked the midi or sampled sounds of gr55?
So i am confused what are the sound engines that gm800 uses?
Is it just upgrade to sy300 or it has midi engine too like gr55 does?
GM-800 is PCM much like gr-55, but gm-800 is using the zencore system.
How does this compare to SY-200? Seems like they cover different ground.
Can BOSS GM-800 output these sounds without additional hardware? (Excluding obvious output device :D)
Like do you have specialized pickups or any other hardware in your setup?
What's the latency like?
Do they have Sitar preset for this pedal?
They have - and it’s quite good.
how does it compare to the GR 55
The sound engine is infinitely better in my opinion, it's a real leap forward... There is no guitar modelling however in this unit... 👍🙏🎸
@@AlexHutchingsMusic Thanks Alex. If it had guitar modelling then its surpasses the GR55. Roland still not listening to the customers.
No lo quiero, lo necesito en mi vida!
Can it make the Pat Metheny synth guitar sound?
Hi Alex ..does it have ghost notes like gr 55 which is very annoying
A few days ago I bought a gr 55 and to my great surprise at the end of the manual it says that it may contain products that cause cancer. Have you read that too???
Salut ma Numesc Chirita Mitica si as vrea sa stiu daca am latenta cu el as vrea sa l folosesc ca interfata midi eu folosesc roland gi 20 si am latenta multumesc mult astept raspuns👍👍👍