Scuppers, Keels and Pouring Lead
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The last of the lead; I think. About 1200 pounds, a surprising amount went into the leading and trailing ends of the keels. On the leading edge it will do an excellent job of reinforcing the keel against collision damage. There is already a 2 inch solid round bar with a 1/2 inch by 5 inch wide flat bar behind that; but with the lead behind it as well, I don't see that as a weak spot. Pouring lead is always an amazing thing to watch. I'm glad the new crew got to have the opportunity. Many thanks to George, Andy, Zach, Terry, Jack, Hugh and Bart for their work this past weekend. Good friends, good work, good food, and relaxing cool evenings beside a fire of old cribbing and pallets.
Betsy has been patching and prepping the dragons and this coming weekend is more dragon work. The weather is forecast to be warm and sunny. And we are looking forward to it. The solar tank is holding water and Betsy already has her inflatable chair out by the tub, just waiting for some sunny skies.
So if you can, I highly recommend getting out to your shop, shed, yard, or basement and build that thing you always wanted to build. Especially if it involves molten lead, making new friends, and ending the day with sore muscles in a warm tub of water, or beside a fire under the stars. --Doug
WARNING: Lead is extremely be hazardous to your heath. Most people don't know how or why, but somebody important who had worked for the EPA, told them that was the case and assured them it had destroyed their uncle's brain, turned his blood yellow and cause him to eat babies. Just looking at molten lead without a full class one hazmat suite will cause you brain damage. Consider yourself warned. It is now your duty to spread the fear to every neurotic recess of the internet.
Rational Precautions for Working with Lead
-- It most dangerous to the developing brain, so women who may become pregnant and children are the most susceptible.
-- Transfer is commonly through dust ingestion. So have no food or drink. And avoid cutting or grinding or other activity that will create dust.
-- Do not smoke as it will vaporize any dust and lead vapor will easy be absorbed in the lungs.
-- Keep the molten lead below 900F/482C. It melts just over 600F/315C so just turn off the heat once the last ingot is melted.
-- Control the contaminated area so it does not spread to food, water or others.
-- When done, remove your work cloths and bag them.
-- Take a shower before you do anything else in the house.
-- Wash your work cloths with no other items.
More About Lead: www.labour.gov....
When she finally sets sail, it would be nice if you made an "In loving memory" video for all the tools you have broken or worn out along the way.
@Hex Bit, AND MADE!!!!!!!!!!
Diesel+lead+steel cannot have any electrolysis, diesel is oil based. The biggest problem you'll have is the fact that diesel is hygroscopic and water will absorb into it, potentially causing corrosion of your keels. You need to paint a sealer on the inside which is intended for diesel fuel tanks, then you'll be fine. I recommend sealing all of your fuel tanks with a paint on sealer.
exactly my thoughts!
I saw pouring lead, thought it was your old video and I was gonna rewatch it anyways, I saw the timestamp and now i'm pumped!
+Ariel Lezen :)
I did the same
Enjoy every update. Just itching to see it in the water....thanks.
Yay! Another longer video. Love what you're doing. I want to come visit you some day.
I lived in Bellingham for many many yrs & I was at the same show with that boat & it really is a gorgeous one ! ! !
I love the bucket over the power post ! Great rain shield !!
The bell on the bike is referred to as a totem. It keeps the gremlins away!
Thanks again Doug for the time and update
Love this series. For those of us that can't provide hands on help and don't want to buy an overpriced mug, have you considered a "supplies registry" somewhere? Patrons could buy grinding disks, welding supplies, gloves and glasses for guests, and whatever else you guys need to work on Seeker.
I admire your patience! You reply to so many comments.
Its great watching you do all the little bits and things then later see everything come together, love the videos man.
This might be a bit late, but may still be helpful...
I worked on a 1920's built riveted hull ship. She'd had lead ballast in multiple diesel fuel tanks for about 12 years; the tanks were in great condition inside. No cathodic/anodic/differential nobility problems.
As usual, it's great to see all the progress. Thanks!
Congratulations on finishing the pours!!!
Great to see it coming together I look forward to your next video!!
Thanks Doug. Another great video for us to enjoy.
Man, there are some real old school USA pride vibes from these videos Doug. Those days gone by where y'all used to build things...
+thinkpad411 Manufacturing pride!
Should have pee essed that comment. I am LOVING this series. My only lamentation is that I cant drop by and offer some free labour so I can watch up close. Keep up the good work guys!
My only lamination is plywood.
I've done a little bit of welding in my life, barely 50 hours worth. I think I prefer wood working over metal. Anyway not complaining just learning new tricks and tips. Nice work and keep on doing your thing. Derek from Canada
I think its great how with all the stuff you've got going, that you'll stop and help some kid with his bike. That's what we call down in these parts, A Good Guy.
I have that same set of carbide burrs in the gray case. Cheap tools but they have served me well for the money.
Doug bloody hell mate its looking great there wow wow weee
i can't believe how it coming along
great work ,your all my heros loving the videos
dragon looking great too Betsey
awesome progress made. thanks for the longer video.
An idea on your solar water heater problem....stick a piece of pool liner in it.....fold inside the corners and glue it all down. No seams, no leaks. Lasts a really long time in your application as I understand.
Loving the boat build videos! All caught up now and looking forward to the future videos. Incredible to watch the process. Keep up the good work!
Starting to really looking forward to these update videos!
Got To Be The Best Series On The Tube!
A recommendation for your solar hot water tank. Take a large heavy duty black plastic sheet
and use it as a liner for the tank.
I hope it floats! :) nice work guys!
Makes me want to go out and fire up the grinder, wish I had the money to visit! You could do a sweepstake at the end guess the weight of the boat..... Really enjoy your videos and build!
I love this channel so much
every time you pour lead the same comments appear must get very frustrating for you, but you manage (almost) to respond with humour...well done
+kwacker45 It is part of my intolerance recovery program. :)
the welds around the bout look like icing on the cake
My forearms got flash burn just from watching those guys weld.
They will know better the next day.
Your crew always seems to be having fun working...that is the thing with free labor...if it was not fun they would not be doing it.
This is going to be an amazing ship...not a boat but a ship.
+Zeemike1 That is true about all labor. Share the work, and share the rewards. Many employers have just not figured it out, and too many employees think they have no choice.
I think I'm starting to understand what junkies go through, I got my fix, life is good.
More lead - holy smokes!
That solar tank is imbued with the devil - gotta be, after all your sealing efforts!
Some more great progress - quite a team at work.
+ChrisB257 ...and still 4.5 tons in reserve to trim her once she is in the water.
27 mins! Keep them coming! :D Love em!
What a great crew you have,love the viedos!
I wish I could come out and help, I can mig weld, tig weld, bang on stuff XD
Serious business, this really is Top3 in my feed, love your videos, always so exciting to see progress... can't wait when this thing is Floating! :)
Have you considered a couple of ship funnels for the engine room ventilation?? I have a sheetmetal layout book that shows how to layout either a flaring or non-flaring ships funnel.
I'd rather watch than do keep up what you do , very interesting.
damn I wish I didn't binge watch all episodes... hate waiting till the next one posts lol!
BEEN a long time since I have seen any lead poured...First time I saw your project I wondered how you would ever handle the inside rust...
Doug, could you stop your leak by pulling the sealer into the gaps with a vacuum source on the outside the next time you try.. just a thought.
Congratulations Doug, it's been almost a year now since I reminded you that you're not getting any younger and to quit focusing on the submersible and concentrate on the boat. A year later and I can see you have at least 3-3 more to go and it will be finished. I told you that if you promoted it people would help which you scoffed at but here we are today and you have 5-6 helpers a week. Imagine where Seeker would be if you kept wasting time on the submersible and you dint have this support? Nice to see the grandkid and dog are not in the construction zone any more - the other point you reminded me to mind my own business on. Seems like you have taken my advice despite lashing out at me. Good luck with the project, it's coming along well and you look like you are having fun and enjoying the comradery. I hope your dream comes true sooner than later.
+Adrian Smyth Are you always so full of yourself?
+SV Seeker Sorry you interpret it that way, not my intent to be full of myself. I simply made some comments a year ago that you jumped on me over. Yet all of what I said you have followed through on whether it coincidence or not and that's good. Peace Doug.
+SV Seeker Let me add, you are doing great work for project and your community. I enjoy your videos and have respect for what you are accomplishing. Just please yourself and always know when you publish on RUclips you will always get comments from your viewpoint - good or bad, doesn't really matter but expect them. It's part of what good can also come out of it, like building a team of help and supporters, getting suggestions, donations, tips etc. Ultimately getting Seeker into the water ....
Hardest working dude on the tubes...
A thousand years from now geologists will be baffled by the high iron content in the soil near what used to be Tulsa Ok, "Wait a minute!!! isn't this where Doug and his crew built that boat? Keep up the awesome work and videos, If I could swing it i'd love to come give you a hand, I can grind with the best of them. for now North Dakota is just a little to far from Oklahoma.
+Jeff Cote Ha. We'll it's certainly not just us. Tulsa if full of metal fabrication shops building all kinds of things for the Oil Patch and beyond. We are in good company.
Hi,
And thank you for this interesting upload showing mainly the Scupper Covers, which I assume just stop any watermarks or ice build-up on the outer hull ?
not sure if someone already made a similar comment but diesel is non polar and shouldn't react with the metal but maybe when if water gets in there and goes to the bottom might get a little nasty. back in the day they use to repair gas tanks with copper and lead solder.
Sealing the fuel tanks.
I may have missed it in the video how you intend to seal the tanks but we used a sealant from aircraft spruce in wing tanks. We did have the option of rolling the tanks around to completely cover the interior. poured the rest back in the can and found we hardly used any. Wonder if it can be sprayed or painted on?
I'll have to do a video about my home made roller furler that works like a bought one for you guys but I think we are a ways off that part of the boat yet
We ave similar caveties on our commecial fishing trawler (steel), its common to fill the void with Concrete (because its cheap) but lead can also be used, weld a lid on and to avoid rust issues we fill the void with plain old motor oil through a bung. My boat was built in 1976 and I cut open a tank built like this and some minor surface rust but nothing to make me think it wont last another 40 years.
Cool, thanks.
One thing you may want to think about Doug, where you cut the piece of rib out to put the scuttle's in, Should you not have refitted it and welded it to the scuttle frame to keep the strength integrity of the hull intact.
+Peter Mundy Right. That's really more like a longitudinal, but it's really not even that big of a part of the structure. It's mainly there to help form the hull when it is being bent. The curve of the hull and the deck above are the primary reinforcements.
+Gottenhimfella Then I guess we are going to break apart and sink. :)
Doug this is perhaps your best video yet! It's telling such an amazing story of teamwork from a collection of people that would never have normally met were it not for the internet! Amazing. :)
p.s. what purpose do those scupper sleeves actually perform?
I will be intrigued to see how close to optimal you get the boat float off the bat.
+brian whittle Me too, because I'm not even going to try.
SV Seeker as long as it's in the ballpark it will be right by moving the weight around.
Do you edit the videos yourself? I love the cuts between work, calm surroundings, dogs, flags and birds.
myheartland ,I was thinking the same thing,prob respirators are called for.just me thinking,other wise what an amazing job yu are doing ,,paul
the bell on the bike is called a Gremlin bell supposed to ward off troublesome gremlins from wrecking your bike.
Hey Doug, follow your videos, just an idea for you solar hot water tank. how about fiber glassing the whole tank, solve the leak once and for all?
Do you guys wear any protaction against the lead fumes?
Greetz from belgium
Leads only dangerous if you want to have kids right? Haha
www.healthline.com/health/lead-poisoning#Overview1
+MrRube007 That's not a bad link, but the precautions in the description are better directed at working with lead.
+Patrick Burke If you are a kid. It effects nerve development. ...that's not a big deal for use old guys, unless you are going to get pregnant. And its why the precautions in the description deal with keeping your cloths separate from the families.
+SV Seeker yes I was just joking. lead is serious stuff as I rebuild old houses and the old paints are loaded with it massive regulations regarding removal. Have to say I have watched every episode so far can't get enough. The best RUclips channel I have ever found. Worried that your going to finish and not put anymore shows out.
solar water heater idea what about some skidder tire tubing to line the inner side will also help with the weight of the water on the bottom.
Steri-strips are fantastic.
Nice :-) From all that grinding, you must have iron soil on your place. (good for peach and apricot trees).
+Michal Rimmerak Hell Yes. If you drop a magnet it turns into a ball of fuzz. :)
+SV Seeker I know that... And I hate magnet cleaning :)
It`s looking awesome Doug -- When is it going to float ?
Funny, all my T shits get holes like that, must be the spark moths !
Malcolm
+mparkerlisberg Spatter Worms
Doug, when will you be making the gangway? When will you begin working on engine room fuel and water lines?
+B Brown I don't know. When are you going to show up to help?
Oh yeah. I like engine work, and setting up fuel and water systems.
Thanks & best wishes! :o)
the bell is to keep the gremlins off. WW2 aircrew men put em on planes. the carried it over to their bikes
Rumor is they only work if gifted to you, can't buy them for yourself.
@@thegarbone,,,There are several "rules",, but Rule #1: Never buy your own bell ,, & Rule #2: Never hang your own bell
As soon as I'm healed up and finished with physical therapy I'm going to be pestering you for some drawings for smaller parts you need fabricated.
Pester away, but I'm not sure what we will need yet.
I know you can use linseed oil, not boiled for bare metal coating inside steel boats. Might be worth looking into.
Love that someone sent you steristrips :D Wish I had some money to send you something!
I'd bake for you, but I dunno if it'll survive taking that long to get across the Big Salty :(
+Azayles I smashed the piggy bank and paid for the steristrips. As Bart is my neighbor now, I figure we will need them. :)
SV Seeker Oooh I thought a viewer had sent some in :P
In any case, be careful :D Loves from England!
Just had a thought that i'd love you to answer in one of the videos - what kind of electric and welding gas bills do you run up every month and do you ever have problems with not having enough power to run a house, workshop and 'ship yard SVSeeker' of a domestic electrical board?
+Jonathan Cook We run off a 100 amp panel. Last months electric bill was $109 and I refilled on CO2 tank for $65. If you want to build a basic 36 foot steel sailboat, you could do it for less than $35,000 dollars. Money is not the problem. Courage is.
+SV Seeker A lot less than I expected! Building a sailboat is not on my agenda, but interested anyway as the skills are highly transferable and every year I build a ski lift, which gets more inventive and elaborate every year, and good metalworking skills are the key to such a build.
I thought you were going to hold some chambers "in reserve" to balance out the boat on the water. Did something change to make you want to fill the forward keel compartments? I wouldn't blame you for not wanting to deal with water accumulation in there later on in the build.
+jeremyrainman Those chambers will also be a fuel tank. All we'll have to do is add ingots and epoxy them in place.
Another entertaining and informative video ! By the way, was that chirping bird in the close up one legged ? Glad to see the lead work in the keel is near finished before you all lost yer minds from the evils of lead poison, he he... Hope that tub is working for my next visit, I hope this fall. Finances still an issue at American Airlines post merger.
+Mike Love Did he? Might have had a close encounter with our cat Earl. Many have met their demise that way.
+SV Seeker I had to go back and check, see 25:10 to 25:17 and it is one legged ! Tricky Earline must have got a swipe at this one... must not be enough elves around to keep Earline distracted from the birds.
Having no clue about boat building, but how do you know how the boat will sit in the water, with all this lead weight at the bottom, in different places? Will the deck be sort of flush with the water? Just ponderin' on how that might work, as the boat will only get into the water after it's finished. Or do you adjust weight distribution afterwards?
Are you going to weld eyebrows above each port hole to keep the water from running down the glass?
+Twentypdr Parrott No. Considered it, but the portholes all lean outwards and are recessed.
I had an idea saw yoy had trouble pushing the masts together in another video. If you welded brackets two on each mast..then you could attach those chain things and pull them together.. sorry I do not know the word for them.
consider sealing the welds in the fuel tanks with epoxy to prevent any leakage.
+Dennis Williams That is the current plan. Coal Tar Epoxy
Doug, have you tried flex seal? I've never used it...great reviews from friends though.
Doug, what is the purpose of the plate outside the scupper? The water is already outside the boat when it passes through the scupper opening. Another plate means more maintenance, another obstruction outside, another thing to rust.
+MrCGChief I suggest you don't put them on your boat.
Regarding the water leak - maybe you could just stuff a big enough piece of polyethylene in there and it would act like a pool liner.
Surely you could build tank "inserts" to go inside the keels?
+Jerry Beatfreak No need to.
Doug, love the videos! I'm not too far away, in Missouri. Our maximum weight on roads here from what I understand is 40 tons, what is it for you?
+Darrel Willman Not sure what it max is. But the truckers and movers I have talked to have no worries about our 38 tons.
Super! I read your estimates on weight and wondered. Amazing what you are accomplishing.
Aww yes, another video! did you get my facebook message Doug? :)
Why do you not make a hot metal tank, instead messing around with the half stone/steel water tank. You have probably al the stuff laying around?
Or just line the one he has with steel.
+Joop Terwijn That's actually more work than you think with the current connections. I build that tank 10 years ago.
Not going to lie, I was expecting to see a free falling dummy again.
that's a deep hull for a ketch...
SV seekern When are you going to put your boat in the water?
+Filip Rodin When it is ready.
Keeping the diesel fuel with the lead is a bad idea... You risk rust accumulating into the fuel and clogging filters or god forbid eating piston rings on the engine.
In my opinion, your options include:
1) Having a large filter and pump and using at least 1" pipe for the fuel to ensure rust that does accumulate clogs an easily replaceable filter instead of getting stuck in small piping you can't access or fix
2) Making either aluminium or stainless steel boxes to house fuel. Best option as they won't compromise the engine
3)Using some sort of gas tank sealer to coat the inside, implausible as they require you to shake the gas tank.
+Ariel Lezen I don't think I agree. Even if the fuel was directly exposed to the lead, which is not the plan, I don't think there would be any significant absorption of the lead into the fuel.
Have you tested the coal tar epoxy with diesel? Will some of the epoxy dissolve in the fuel and gum up your system. Maybe tar the inside of a pint jar, fill it with diesel, and let it sit on the shelf a while. The steel and lead don't bother me so much. Aren't diesel and gasoline dielectric? I've worked on plenty of in-tank pumps with bare electrical connections.
Regarding your solar water heater, do you add anything to kill bacteria? There are some particularly nasty things that love warm stagnant water.
+rjk69 Never had a problem with it. It only sits for about 2 weeks before we drain it into the tub for a bath.
Somebody was watching Brian Oltrogge...same ingot molds, he just posted a week or so ago. :)
+WreckDiver99 Great minds. I've had those molds for years.
Yup, not a new idea, just a good one! I decided to shoot for a specific weight so I know that I'll need a certain number of ingots to do X number of castings.... I wish an ingot from a 'C' channel mold would fit through the hole in my furnace!
Great content as ever. Have you tried Plasti Dip paint for sealing the tank. it doesn't tend to go brittle when its cold. its based on the chemical paint thats used on swimming pools. although the plasti dip brand is more flexible. We use it for painting onto the ware areas of our coasteering wetsuits.
+The ClanAdventures Not yet. I did get some Flex Seal. We'll give that a shot and that last drip.
The swimming pool paint is referred to as Chlorinated rubber paint. it works it way into the smallest crack then sets rubbery. The plasti dip does not run into the cracks as well but does give a very flexible coating. The price is night and day between the product. It might be a lot cheaper in the USA here in Scotland its 4 to 6 times the price of the Chlorinated rubber paint.
That bell on the bike is a myth that the bell will wart off evil road sprits, someone is suppose to buy it for you, and its suppose to be on the front of the bike. lol
+Benny Osburn Yeah, I don't think anyone has proved the existence of gremlins either.
not one of those guided burrs it missed his ass lol great vids
dang that would make a lot of sinkers or enough bullets to end a war.
FYI: it's the hoist pendant, the controller is inside the hoist.
+Ram-n_dodge That's interesting to know, but if I ask a crew member to get the hoist pendant out of the tool box, I don't think I will have actually communicated. :)
+SV Seeker Good point, only learned when ordering parts myself.
+SV Seeker The hoist clicker.
+J Santarsiero Yellow thingy with the buttons.
You need vents so the fumes from the metal will not make you sick
+marco “t500” jonker Warning: Fear memes are fatal to people who are actually going to get work done.
SV Seeker what was the actual wt of the lead on both sides? did you keep track of that as you went along, Joseph T