Man I gotta say your content is so damn refreshing. Not to put other dbz RUclipsrs down, but so many seem to exclusively entertain by shit talking their opponents. Uploading losses that are genuinely good games, giving props, non-serious shit talk, humility, etc is so nice to see
I put 6 hours into the game today instead of studying for an exam, and I can confidently say that I find myself having more fun here than in dbfz over 1000 hours
You get put on transform/switch cooldown whenever you use one of those mechanics. You can see the yellow switch icon filling up next to your blue meter.
7:06 lol really brought out the “Let it shine” rap reference for kelfa ?!? Also I wouldn’t say that krillen best in world but his vanish timing and Z counters were def peak & practiced . Idk why he’s better with vanishes on freiza . Regardless good vid and keep up good work Wouldn’t say it’s broken more of one of those supers that u can’t press anything otherwise u get caught . Since everyone is mashing defensive tech when someone dashes I’m not surprised they keep getting caught , my guess is high C or B will just not move we will see .
Not sure if people know but like the old games if you press down during a vanish battle you will go in front a bit or behind a bit and stop the vanish war with noone getting a finish hit.
In team battles I've been using Android 16/17/18, they've always been some of my favorite characters. I've been trying to work on some movie teams and other villain setups but nothing has really stuck so far.
I didn’t mind the vanish system much at first, but now that most people learned the timing… i wish there was some kind of difficulty increase for it with every attempt. Because now it’s just a one minute long endurance test decided by who had 1mm more meter when it started.
It’s really not that broken considering how easy it is to hit someone with your ultimate in this game. The goal should be to not let your opponent get to sparking.
most of the issues you faced have to do with dashing. when you were trying to ki blast you usually did it after a dash which gives a smash attack instead. when you were trying to grab after a dash it gave the increased dodge with r1 instead of grab. this game has a lot of odd mechanics that interfere with each other in specific circumstances it's kinda annoying 😭 also yes i hate super counter. the fact that it takes zero resource to do something you can straight up just mash during a combo is really bad imo.
A lot of people are talking about the vanish wars, isn't there counterplay to it though? If you have the timing down on the vanish, you can probably throw a super counter to just end the vanish off, potentially revenge counter it too but that mechanic seems to be a noob trap, not entirely sure.
Hope you realized everytime you do the vanish wars with the last person you fought, you was just giving him more skill bars for him to get to that senzu, that’s why you lost hit and he got to heal, and how he got to 5 again so fast, Sometimes just gotta give it up and take the hit.
i like super counter a lot (the up + x/square one) . it takes alot of practice to be able to pull off consistently. idk if its true but i heard there's only a 4 frame window for it. my problem with it is that the opponent can just reg vanish in response, how is that fair? they can counter ur much harder counter with the easiest one in the game? that doesn't make sense to me. if they took the ability to vanish it away, then it think itd be much more valuable and is the best way to stop the vanish wars that will only get worse overtime.
Been a kelfa main from the start lol. Plus if you go into sparking and punch them to death. About 15 punches in you can still do the ult and it will hit🤣. Fun way to take 3 1/2 bars of health.
Personally i don't like super counter specifically the fact that it doesn't cost anything to use. This means at high levels when people have the skill to use it consistently combos just wont exist because super counters break any combo unless you find a way to combo with only ki blast. Its really weird for a fighting game to not have any true combos, i think they should make super counter cost either ki or a skill count so that actual combos can exist, especially since something way weaker like super perception cost skill count
@@emptyjumplowit’s very very luck based. You can obviously get better at timing it, but like you said it’s difficulty makes it very luck based regardless. In a match I could hit 12/20 super counters while in another I get 6/20 (all while timing it basically the same with maybe milliseconds of difference which is why I say it’s luck based to a large degree). Obviously there are people who can super counter a lot better, but even they can’t consistently do it (and if they did you’d at most land 2 hits before being countered which is unfun). I personally hate super counters I loved all the defensive mechanics. But after a chess game of trying to outsmart your opponent into getting into a combo string you just get 2 hits before they super counter? Very unrewarding and like I said a person could be lucky and get many or vice versa. There’s absolutely no counter play to it aside from countering it yourself after it stops your combo (which defeats the point of counter playing it since what you truly want is your combo). Maybe make it only possible to use after a string or 2 of basic combos or make it cost half a bar of ki? Personally I’d love to see it removed as a whole. It’s basically a revenge counter on a 0 cooldown and no skill cost. In fact it’s even better considering u can do it while getting hit from behind and it can’t miss…
@@emptyjumplowfor example when I go sparking against my friend, he locks in extra hard with super counters and I genuinely land at most 2-3 hits before I get super countered. And that’s after I finally get through all the defensive mechanics and mind games to even land a single hit. I genuinely lose more then what I gain when I go sparking because of super counters and there’s nothing I can do about it against good players. I beat my friend most of the time but that doesn’t make super countered any less fun to deal with. Also you can’t convince me that low dp characters can just super counter your high dp character in the middle of a comb. When did they suddenly be able to ignore the effects of being hit enough to counter attack 😂 anyway love the game, my only issue is super counters (and the cheese characters ofc)
Yeah super counters need to have some limitations. Like you can literally super after it as well. I cheesed my friend so hard since I can hit it a little bit more than normal and it’s not fun to watch. I can’t tell him to just get good cause like I know that shit cheap lmao. Side note, I think there definitely should be some true combos. This game feels like I’m fighting with defensive mechanics and key blast instead of actually fighting and mixing. Idk how I feel about that because high low is point after 20 seconds in the game because of you can just super block high/low
Ive been doing this since the 2nd day and it counters yajirobe. Broly Super, and Base Kefla and a random 4 character. Broly and kefla spam sparking, it's easy.
I was having a ton of fun in single battles until i ran into a cheesey SSJ4 gogeta who had all the auto spam on earth, it was the first time i fought SSJ4 gogeta so the speed of his attacks completely threw me off, then a fought a good ass Broly, respect to him, then i fought more SSJ4 gogetas of completely different skill levels it was annoying even when i was doing good, its more fun fighting Vegito and hell even beerus, almost went from D5 to B5 in an hour and 45 minutes or so and thats when the nonsense started. It got repetitive and annoying very quickly especially the gogetas that only try to backshot all game and UI Goku is just UI Goku bs but im loving the game and all the characters but the basic cheese and stupid "meta" are annoying PS respect to that dude that played Cooller and slammed me
Main dp adult great saiyaman suit gohan base bardock end of z Goku roshi Dp bck up end of z Goku and vegeta pan roshi I fuse into vegito or super gogeta z
I have, but I discovered this before I knew he was even playing Kefla. He definitely found it before I did though because I don’t think I even tried Kefla until Day 2 or 3 and he found it Day 1 lmao.
@@LotusAsakura oh word, i wasnt paying that close attention to the timeline. My fault. Shame i never got a chance to throw down with you in Fighterz, maybe ill run into you here.
even sword trunks can do it as well. ngl if you spam this just to win, your not comp. shit is lame asf. i lost close game to this weak ass shit. good content btw
you counter this by starting to play vertically and use dragon ascend when you see them dashing and break their camera flying above and over the top of them
Kefla's "I win" button keeps getting better with each game she's in lol
lol what was it in fighterz ik in xeno it was blaster ball
@@O.H306her level 3 hits full screen in fighterz, lol
@@HabitualThinker oh yeah 🤣
@@HabitualThinker so in xeno she could combo into it without stamina break, fighterz full screen and now it’s unblockable 🤣🤣
@@O.H306you can block it in this game it’s just you have to block the whole thing until it goes away.
Man I gotta say your content is so damn refreshing. Not to put other dbz RUclipsrs down, but so many seem to exclusively entertain by shit talking their opponents. Uploading losses that are genuinely good games, giving props, non-serious shit talk, humility, etc is so nice to see
So good balance.
Real
that let it shine reference was crazy
Literally was about to comment about that. Man dug up a lost memory for a second.
@@KensFamiliar11same😂😂😂 we love that
I put 6 hours into the game today instead of studying for an exam, and I can confidently say that I find myself having more fun here than in dbfz over 1000 hours
Bro got his priorities straight
Bro go study dawg lol
Yeah, DBFZ was very enjoyable on release but a proper arena fighter is where Dragon Ball can truly shine
Had a Kefla try this against me 3 times in a match and learned you have to hold block for a very long time for it not to hit
Dawg the timing of this video is hilarious because I JUST decided on maining Kefla 😭
Mmmhhhmmmm
Me with Kale 🤣 but kefla is looking appealing too
I decided before I even got the game lol
7:03 One of the greatest bars of all time 🤣 The real ones know
You get put on transform/switch cooldown whenever you use one of those mechanics. You can see the yellow switch icon filling up next to your blue meter.
7:06 lol really brought out the “Let it shine” rap reference for kelfa ?!? Also I wouldn’t say that krillen best in world but his vanish timing and Z counters were def peak & practiced . Idk why he’s better with vanishes on freiza . Regardless good vid and keep up good work
Wouldn’t say it’s broken more of one of those supers that u can’t press anything otherwise u get caught . Since everyone is mashing defensive tech when someone dashes I’m not surprised they keep getting caught , my guess is high C or B will just not move we will see .
Not sure if people know but like the old games if you press down during a vanish battle you will go in front a bit or behind a bit and stop the vanish war with noone getting a finish hit.
Of course I run into a Kefla doing this for the first time immediately after watching this 😂
Kefla is Amazing. She’s My Favorite Fusion Character. My Overall #1 Favorite Character Is Caulifla Tho😁
Can’t wait for you to see how broken dbs full power Broly is 😭 I’m on a 20 win streak with this guy and I only started practicing with him yesterday
I see Kale, Kefla, who gon show Caulifa some love!?
I play caulifla a little, though I think I like kale more
@@HabitualThinkerKale is definitely better in terms of skills. She can really put that work in for the whole fight if you play well
She’s quite good, she has a defensive buff and a AOE super
Caulifa is basically beta kefla ngl
In team battles I've been using Android 16/17/18, they've always been some of my favorite characters. I've been trying to work on some movie teams and other villain setups but nothing has really stuck so far.
There's no way lotus references let it shine in 2024
We love that
Having base Kefla in the game is pretty sick
For sureeee, base kefla makes me happy
7:04 the let is shine reference 👌
I didn’t mind the vanish system much at first, but now that most people learned the timing… i wish there was some kind of difficulty increase for it with every attempt. Because now it’s just a one minute long endurance test decided by who had 1mm more meter when it started.
bro i thought i was the only one who figured this out as a kefla main 😭😭😭
Homie hit us with the Wild Thornberry there at the end.
I love using Super Broly's giant explosive wave move combined with the teleport, that shit is cheesy af. XD
See now that's insane cause Recoome does the EXACT SAME THING
It’s really not that broken considering how easy it is to hit someone with your ultimate in this game. The goal should be to not let your opponent get to sparking.
You can get sparking with a skill just a push of a button and you won’t make it in time to stop them
Sad news for those who actually find out she can just pop a skill and instantly get it
It is very broken
Kefla got me all the way to B2 in one day 😂
Yeah the chick is cracked she helped me get to A5
I play kefla, and I'm 100% gonna use this cheese
Same in single matches she also in my dp team with 18 and teen gohan
I've been playing a Caulifla Kale duo and fusing into Kefla. This tech is absolutely hilarious, I need to try it.
most of the issues you faced have to do with dashing.
when you were trying to ki blast you usually did it after a dash which gives a smash attack instead.
when you were trying to grab after a dash it gave the increased dodge with r1 instead of grab.
this game has a lot of odd mechanics that interfere with each other in specific circumstances it's kinda annoying 😭
also yes i hate super counter.
the fact that it takes zero resource to do something you can straight up just mash during a combo is really bad imo.
dont get into a vanish war with yajarobe because he is gaining skill points for it
Just got the game and I wanted jerks to be one of my mains so def just took notes and started practicing this lol thanks Lotus
legend has it LotusAsakura is still saying AYEE NO AYEE NO AYYEEE NO
A lot of people are talking about the vanish wars, isn't there counterplay to it though? If you have the timing down on the vanish, you can probably throw a super counter to just end the vanish off, potentially revenge counter it too but that mechanic seems to be a noob trap, not entirely sure.
Hope you realized everytime you do the vanish wars with the last person you fought, you was just giving him more skill bars for him to get to that senzu, that’s why you lost hit and he got to heal, and how he got to 5 again so fast, Sometimes just gotta give it up and take the hit.
I've been doing this with Kefla since day one. Everytime I land it I say "It's crashout time" 😂
I mean, you can do this with almost any character's Ultimate.
Character switch glitch, and not being able to charge ki glitch cost me a couple matches. Let’s see if they fix it.
That's shit got me too. I left dp battle for now until they fix it
I've had someone do this to me with Recoome too. I do not know how to deal with it yet lmao
Lotus you GOTTA stop giving these freaks more ammo to cheese with in single battles, gang, PLEASE
I been mainign her since release so thanks for this
I’m a Kefla main. Not really one to rely on these tactics, but I guess I’ll try it out to see how effective that is.
I discovered this strat a couple days ago lol I love Kefla
Kefla is sick! I’m between Kale and Cabba but gonna bring out the kefla if I need to cheese some matches 😂
i like super counter a lot (the up + x/square one) . it takes alot of practice to be able to pull off consistently. idk if its true but i heard there's only a 4 frame window for it. my problem with it is that the opponent can just reg vanish in response, how is that fair? they can counter ur much harder counter with the easiest one in the game? that doesn't make sense to me. if they took the ability to vanish it away, then it think itd be much more valuable and is the best way to stop the vanish wars that will only get worse overtime.
Been a kelfa main from the start lol. Plus if you go into sparking and punch them to death. About 15 punches in you can still do the ult and it will hit🤣. Fun way to take 3 1/2 bars of health.
Nothing secret about dashing and using ult 🤦🏻♂️
Doesn't this work with every character?
Or atleast everyone with unblockable supers?
Yes, better if you have an insta-sparking skill tho
Personally i don't like super counter specifically the fact that it doesn't cost anything to use. This means at high levels when people have the skill to use it consistently combos just wont exist because super counters break any combo unless you find a way to combo with only ki blast. Its really weird for a fighting game to not have any true combos, i think they should make super counter cost either ki or a skill count so that actual combos can exist, especially since something way weaker like super perception cost skill count
Nah. Super counter being difficult and free of charge is perfect.
It costing even just a little bit of ki or skill count would completely ruin its ability to turn vanish battles in your favor.
@@emptyjumplowit’s very very luck based. You can obviously get better at timing it, but like you said it’s difficulty makes it very luck based regardless. In a match I could hit 12/20 super counters while in another I get 6/20 (all while timing it basically the same with maybe milliseconds of difference which is why I say it’s luck based to a large degree). Obviously there are people who can super counter a lot better, but even they can’t consistently do it (and if they did you’d at most land 2 hits before being countered which is unfun). I personally hate super counters I loved all the defensive mechanics. But after a chess game of trying to outsmart your opponent into getting into a combo string you just get 2 hits before they super counter? Very unrewarding and like I said a person could be lucky and get many or vice versa. There’s absolutely no counter play to it aside from countering it yourself after it stops your combo (which defeats the point of counter playing it since what you truly want is your combo). Maybe make it only possible to use after a string or 2 of basic combos or make it cost half a bar of ki? Personally I’d love to see it removed as a whole. It’s basically a revenge counter on a 0 cooldown and no skill cost. In fact it’s even better considering u can do it while getting hit from behind and it can’t miss…
@@emptyjumplowfor example when I go sparking against my friend, he locks in extra hard with super counters and I genuinely land at most 2-3 hits before I get super countered. And that’s after I finally get through all the defensive mechanics and mind games to even land a single hit. I genuinely lose more then what I gain when I go sparking because of super counters and there’s nothing I can do about it against good players. I beat my friend most of the time but that doesn’t make super countered any less fun to deal with. Also you can’t convince me that low dp characters can just super counter your high dp character in the middle of a comb. When did they suddenly be able to ignore the effects of being hit enough to counter attack 😂 anyway love the game, my only issue is super counters (and the cheese characters ofc)
Yeah super counters need to have some limitations. Like you can literally super after it as well. I cheesed my friend so hard since I can hit it a little bit more than normal and it’s not fun to watch. I can’t tell him to just get good cause like I know that shit cheap lmao.
Side note, I think there definitely should be some true combos. This game feels like I’m fighting with defensive mechanics and key blast instead of actually fighting and mixing. Idk how I feel about that because high low is point after 20 seconds in the game because of you can just super block high/low
Ive been doing this since the 2nd day and it counters yajirobe. Broly Super, and Base Kefla and a random 4 character. Broly and kefla spam sparking, it's easy.
dp battles been Kid Buu, Krillin, Pan, and Videl
Kefla mains taking over
My Main Team would most likely be Piccolo (End), Bardock (Z) and Base Vegeta or Frieza (First Form). Feel free to try out that Team.
i love you forever lotus.
Does this strat work with other explosion type ultimates?
Super counters timing is tricky to me. Maybe it’s the net code but it’s not that reliable for me
Can we get a dedicated Ribrianne video Mr. Asakura ?
Is her ultimate an AOE + Beam?
what does saiyan spirit do
wow , dude's voice is soo deep :O
WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN
I’m a kelfa main I love everything bout her gang 😂
Ngl I’ve been abusing this for a while now with kefla😭
Kinda sound like a deeper Afro low key or I’m tripping?
I really dislike how they made Hit's face look in this game
I was having a ton of fun in single battles until i ran into a cheesey SSJ4 gogeta who had all the auto spam on earth, it was the first time i fought SSJ4 gogeta so the speed of his attacks completely threw me off, then a fought a good ass Broly, respect to him, then i fought more SSJ4 gogetas of completely different skill levels it was annoying even when i was doing good, its more fun fighting Vegito and hell even beerus, almost went from D5 to B5 in an hour and 45 minutes or so and thats when the nonsense started. It got repetitive and annoying very quickly especially the gogetas that only try to backshot all game and UI Goku is just UI Goku bs but im loving the game and all the characters but the basic cheese and stupid "meta" are annoying
PS respect to that dude that played Cooller and slammed me
Which gogeta?
@@Sussiness1877 SSJ4 Gogeta, sorry I forgot to add that
Thats how i played her from day 1 but it doesnt work against good players
Yeah cuz we know it's coming if they super saiyan 2. Just wait for the dash behind and hold guard.
Main dp adult great saiyaman suit gohan base bardock end of z Goku roshi
Dp bck up end of z Goku and vegeta pan roshi I fuse into vegito or super gogeta z
NO DON'T LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS
same with teen gohan ss2 and hes only 4 DP
keep posting ranked!!!
MORE KEFLA
I see you been watching Diaphone too
I have, but I discovered this before I knew he was even playing Kefla. He definitely found it before I did though because I don’t think I even tried Kefla until Day 2 or 3 and he found it Day 1 lmao.
@@LotusAsakura oh word, i wasnt paying that close attention to the timeline. My fault. Shame i never got a chance to throw down with you in Fighterz, maybe ill run into you here.
Hey my main
No is going to wait 30 minutes before they comment so I'm going to join the squad and just say Hi.
How many likes for us to get a Dr Wheelo exclusive online ranked video?
I can't help but to find the universe 6 saiyans so ugly
They got no muscle 😂
@@souljaleo7192 right? stick bug looking ass saiyans 😩
even sword trunks can do it as well. ngl if you spam this just to win, your not comp. shit is lame asf. i lost close game to this weak ass shit. good content btw
Hey what's goods
Afterimage strike
I wanna tell yall something but I don’t want word to get out and get nerfed 😭😭😭
you counter this by starting to play vertically and use dragon ascend when you see them dashing and break their camera flying above and over the top of them
Beerus solos
Tien is definitely stronger than Krillin…. Cry about it😂
yoooooo
This is so scummy
To fix the glitch u have go on classic
First
Unblockable attacks need to go
It's not unblockable!
Explosive wave
You right, but this one isn’t unblockable
@@LotusAsakura 😱
im A2 and its just a ki manager sim for vanish battles and thats it, super annoying. Wish it had a CD after a time