I live in a good middle class neighborhood surrounded by more of the same. I had an attempted home invasion robbery about 2 weeks ago. I'm 50+ female that lives alone. The only reason they didn't get past my door, that looks like a normal wood door with small window at the very top, was because my frame was also steel. it's the only one that I have been able to save up for to change. The only reason why I installed that one door with a steel frame was about a year ago a locksmith came to my house to redo all of my locks and he noticed that all of my doors were steel. He also brought to my attention that steel doors will do no good unless I have steel frames around the steel doors. They are pricey so I have to save up one door at a time. The one door I had replaced was the one door that was being kicked in and it held itself by God's grace! Being a daughter of an ex-marine I found myself shocked, saddened and realized I became complacent about my safety as well as anybody else that could have been a in my home. I realized I had to do something about it. I also knew that what I had in my home would not stop anybody, especially 2 anybody's, if they had chosen a different door to kick down. Pepper spray and bear spray doesn't do well inside of a home. The end of my story, I use the buckshot. I pray to God I never have to pull trigger inside of my home but if I have to I will and I will have to live with it for the rest of my life. If I don't chances are I will not be living. It seems that people view all Americans is gun-loving. I don't love guns but I have a GREAT respect for them. There are multiple reasons WHY I respect them but most of all, for home defense. By the way the gentleman that gave me that information about the steel frames was from the Middle East. He told me he had seen many doors get kicked in and the only one he saw the gave any time for the people to get out of their homes, we're homes that had steel doors with steel-frames. I will forever be grateful for that gentleman that gave me that piece of advice that afternoon. Best wishes from across the pond where my ancestors came from in 1803. Happy hunting!
@union310 no ... our gun laws are necessary... especially when a corrupt government runs things.... we need our guns and well keep them.... one way or another..... " the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of Patriots and tyrants from time to time."
@snoopy dubnation our gun laws are the best in the world. If america switched to the same licencing system we have there wouldn't be so many mass shootings and gun violence over there. like imagine, you could still buy all the guns you could buy now, you could still use guns for self defence and all that, but to buy them you would need a background check+police interviews+ property checks+a medical record check to see if you have any mental health issues. I only see positives.
+Christopher Wakelin Yes it was funny, when I did this video along with 'shotgun chokes explained' i was learning too and saw that there were few videos on the subject that could be understood by a beginner. Both videos have proved popular, thanks for watching :)
Thanks for the video ... it was very helpful to see the demonstration of each level of shot right after each other, as well as the size differences in the first part. Well done. I hope that one day all of you in the UK regain your rights. It is a shame what has happened over there in regard to the infringements upon everyone; it should not be that way in a free society. It's absolutely a crime that your Olympic team can't practice in its own country.
Thanks for watching and your kind words! It may change one day, the leader of UKIP has stated he intends to allow us to have our handguns back. Maybe even semi auto centre fire. We don't have rights, of any kind, here in the UK so I hope things change .
Lots of people own guns here! In fact, if I was allowed to show it, I could show you me doing practical shotgun/mini rifle comps too. We are a persecuted group here though, so we keep a low profile.
@@srspower yea well, from what I hear you guys need some more guns. Guess I don't know how it works, I always thought they were illegal there. I've even heard there are muzzle energy restrictions on air guns. So are you allowed to get them with a special license or something?
@@thomasanderson6426 For Air rifles anyone over 18 can buy one provided it produces less than 12ft lb energy. Anything above that requires a firearms license. But most people who get a firearms license just get a rifle! But you need to show 'good reason' for each calibre to be issued a license and the Police visit your house to check your security cabinet etc.
great video, very informative :) It's nice to have a British uploader talking about standard loads that are used over here. While I love watching videos on slugs, bolo and all the other kinds of nasties, it's not very practical for a British shooter. This vid ticked all the right boxes, good ballistic testing too :)
Great video. Especially like the show and tell of the shotgun rounds. Very informative video and the demonstration in the 2nd part was an awesome bonus. Thanks for putting this video out there.
Yes, #4 buckshot seems to be a really good choice for HD because it is a good compromise between power and number of shot. It also wont penetrate numbers of walls either and hurt your neighbors or family members! Great video chaps!
In reference to the 00 buck @ 30 yards (meters, whatever) One of the benefits to the availability of different weapons here in the U.S. is the ability to select the weapon for the job: shotgun for close range, rifle for long range, pistol for out of the home protection. This was a great video, wonderful comparisons of both shell anatomy as well as physical impact of each type. good job.
Cool video. This was quite refreshing from the usual video tutorials by Bob from Kentucky. Its good to watch videos by some bro-tier guys in the UK. Hope you come to the states often to enjoy all the firearms stuff.
Unfortunately I have only visit your great country once and that was New York! So firearms weren't exactly available! But I do hope to visit soon. It would be awesome to shoot some handguns, and semi auto centre fire. Glad you enjoyed the video and don't forget to sub! :)
Thank you for making this. I've always shot rifle before, but was given a Mossberg 835 recently and wasn't sure what shells to get. This video helped quite a bit.
Thanks for your testing results. A couple of points from the USA on huntiing and personal defense. 00 and 000 Buck shot is/was originally used for certain deer hunting seasons in the USA and Canada. With the advent new Rifled barrel shotguns, rifled slugs shells are becoming more common for deer and bigger game due to more accuracy and impact energy at close to moderate ranges of 150 yds or less. For personal defense in the USA the general rule of law is that you [or family ]are in immidiate danger of death or serious injury, usually meaning that the attacker is 20 yds or less in range. My home personal defense load is a 'commercial "Shotshell"which is a combination . 65 caliber round ball and 6 "00" Buckshot. I sequentially mix other loads in my 12 gauge Mossberg pump if I should happen to miss. A lot of ballistic gel testing as well as 12 guage deer hunting videos are available on You Tube.
vizslas Thank you for the shot shell comparisons. Shotguns are versatile and lots of fun. My favorite is an L.C. Smith 12 gauge my great grandfather left me 60 years ago.
'Love that accent. I missed my British friends.Well explained video.I gained more understanding of what loads to use for target shooting.More power to you. You should have been a teacher!
Excellent! great stuff learned a lot. Just got my first shot gun last week . Rock Island armory/Armscore M5 Nickel Matte. I needed some great info. Thanks from the states.
Thank you very much for posting this. As someone thats still finding their feet in the shotgun world here in the uk that was very informative. We were using no. 6 on the range the other day, must say i prefer it to the normal 7's. OO is on the list of odd things to find now. Just for novelty. Thanks again.
Thanks for the great vid, guys. I'm brand new to shotguns, so this video was perfect for me to learn about the different types of shells available. I'm in the process of buying a Mossberg 590 A1 for home defense. Looks like that 00 buckshot would be best for that purpose. Btw, I'm a member of an English Springer Spaniel fb page, so I get to see many hunting pics posted by Brit hunters out in the field. Looks like you've got lots of great hunting out in the UK. Thanks again for the great vid. I've definitely "liked and subscribed". Keep up the good work.
Yes 00 buck would definitely do the job! And yes we do have some fantastic hunting here although no public land for hunting so you have to know the right people. Thanks for the sub :)
What a cracking video chaps! Very informative and rather amusing! Would have loved to see you tripping out of argos with 5 catalogues under your arm!! Well done.
There was a time when the UK made some of the best rifles & shotguns in the world. Their legacy sill lives on with collectors; often in the $10,000 range. Their drilling, double rifles and magnificent wood was regarded as some of the world's finest. Too bad you lost most of your rights.
Well we still do make the finest side by sides Holland and Holland, Purdy etc out of my price range though! But yes you would not believe what we have to go through just to get a .22 rifle a shotgun is easy by comparison and that still involves a police house inspection.
***** My Lord, man - police inspecting your home? Terrible, & does nothing productive.. I knew something was amiss when I read some of the different Bill from the House of Commons (& Lords) re: the banning of knives with points, serialization (numerically of edged objects like swords, hunting knives, etc).This can be found (there had been more thna a single proposal) by doing a SEARCH for "proposed knife legislation within the UK". Some fellows in the USA call idiots with "window dressing" legislation "Libtards" ( a leftist+a retarded individual) But I find that somewhat offensive as retarded individuals are challenged in their thinking my organic elements; it's not their decision. Nor do they (generally bear ill-will toward others for differences in their world view, economics, or being. Most seem without deceitful agenda and a good percentage become very productive, loving people. I can't say that about politicians on either side: marketing themselves, lying, & obsessed with self promotion.
John Grey Not only an inspection. Ammunition has to be locked away separately and you are limited to how many rounds you can own. Also each round you buy is recorded as is each one you fire if shot at a club. You have to have 'good reason' for each calibre ie: land to shoot on for game/vermin and/or membership of a club. You need two people to vouch for you, background check and a mental health check. It's no problem for me other than it is a LOT of hassle.
***** Notice how the gentleman (srspower) describes very closely some of the present administrations proposals. EXACTLY those folks that may NEED help would be shied away from a therapist if that person could deny them their rights if they said something emphatically. Most individuals have suffered loss at one time or another. Grief, depression or for that matter anger may be phrased in a manner misunderstood by someone w/ a political agenda or hypersensitive themselves (transference or negative counter-transference). Frankly, were some law enacted to make me see someone, I would not be honest w/ them for fear they may do MUCH more than deny me a firearm. It easily could be twisted into a "record or documentation" of mental heath problems were someone to express grief with intensity. Mental Health should NEVER be a political issue. The bond of trust is broken by simply divergent laws existing. One is PAYING to speak w/ another impartial person re: personal issues. Exactly those people who may need it the most would avoid proper therapy. There is already a disparity of power built into may less cometent therapists; why not think this out? Warning signs of suicidal ideation are NOT a political football. Anger-managment treatment is best treated by a well educated therapist; NOT some Graduate-Level marginalized young lady w/ her own issues to deal with. We have too many "marriage counselors", etc with degrees they got from a diploma-mill. It's really time for use to deal with the problem in a new manner; not doing the same thing & expecting differing results. We have approx. 300 million firearms in the USA they are also an inanimate object - they are not going away. All the more we would do is create ANOTHER banquet for Organized Crime. The problem of Violence is the issue. The UK had some MP's seriously propose legislation for the serialization of knives and the end of knives with points! Look up UK proposals for "dealing with knife crime". You will be saddened by the lack of clarity & "objectification" of a behaviour. One cannot legislate behaviour! It seems obvious yet it continues.
top vid mate liked and favorite done i dont really have the ability to make this kind of video anymore due to losing my permission on an estate due to changing ownership but at least i can recommend your video through my channel plus you are better at making these kinds of videos than me so keep them up mate they are helpful to me and everyone else good luck on the pigeons this year mate the farms in the area are having huge problems atm so ima try grab some permissions while its still there
While 00 buck is now used for defense, generally, here in the States, it was originally a deer hunting load. There's still a couple of states that mandate either buck or slugs for deer hunting. Considering the minimal distances for home defense, and the fact that pattern size at those distances will range around 3 inches or less, many of us opt for #6 or less for home defense so as to limit over penetration. Since the shot impacts on a limited area, this is highly effective at neutralizing bad guys, and still leaves those who are behind walls relatively safe. Longer distances, (more than a room), of course, require a buck load. i.e. #'s 4 buck (not the same as 4 shot), #1 buck, BB, 0, 00, & 000...... 00, of course, is an overall favorite because of balanced ball size and loading density. I also noticed that you tend towards a larger shot size application than we do here. Most of us start with #8 shot for dove and quail, moving to # 5 or 6 for ducks (smaller has trouble penetrating wing feathers), and #2, 3, or 4 for geese. Typically rabbits are hunted with the same size shot one is using for birds that season, and foxes and coyotes are hunted with small bore rifles. Just thought you might like to know how we compare.
+weeweeonthefire Be very careful, remember SG pellets are around 60 grains each and going at high speed. Treat it as though you were shooting a rifle ie: safe backstop and not in to the air!
Great video, explained a lot! Ive only ever really needed two types of cartridge so never knew what all the others where like. Might have to try a few myself.
Oh and great video! Very well thought out and informative. What kind of choke were you using for the shooting part of the video? A lot of people in the US do like to use 00buck for home defense but I prefer birdshot just incase I happen to miss so I don't get any kind of over penetration through walls.
I think we used a modified choke for this test. And yes I think birdshot would be ample for such a use, as you can see close up even number 7 1/2 is pretty devastating. Thanks for watching :)
@@srspower Thank you for your incredibly quick response on an rather old video. So I could, if I chose, buy 00 buck/sg 2 3/4 for a 12 gauge on a shotgun licence?
@@ClarkesonTheMarksman Buckshot is an entirely different category to birdshot. BB is a type of birdshot. It's much smaller than any buckshot but still big for birdshot.
Thanks a lot for watching, don't forget to check out other videos in my explained series ie: Chokes, wadding etc. And I am about to edit a shotgun cleaning video :)
Very thorough and one of the best videos I've seen on this subject. My only and minor criticism would be that variation in target flexure upon impact could cause differences in penetration even for the same load. But the broader conclusions are clear. Thanks for the considerable effort that went into making this video. Is very helpful, especially to folks like me who are new to shotguns.
I have killed loads of whitetail deer here in the American south using that exact same Remington 00 buckshot load. Inside 40 yards the deer fold like a wet dish rag. It's also what I keep in my home defense riot shotguns in case of a home invasion or social unrest. As always, great informative video.
I am indeed from the U.S, Florida specifically. My shotgun does take chokes, and I currently have a full turkey choke for it. Not planning too much in the way of small birds, but I'll probably try for turkey and maybe even deer with some of the higher loads. Talking with some friends of mine, #4 is apparently good for turkey, and I've seen several "turkey loads" that are #4's. For deer I may use 00 buck. A friend told me to look into #4 Buckshot, that's apparently different from regular #4 loads
Theophilus Fernleaf Yes I have shot them quite a bit in practical comps. My friend Tom, who is often in my videos, uses a Mossberg 600 AKA the Newhaven AT 600. Basically the same as a 500 but with a larger capacity, nice wood as standard and a C-Lect choke system. I think they are excellent well engineered guns but it is a pity that most of them are fixed cylinder bore. For competition shoots they are great for shooting birds on the wing? I think any pump is a significant disadvantage.
Im still looking for that good home defense round. Buck sounds like the right choice but i don't want to hurt anyone else in the home thats non intruder. Why I have been looking at the BB or #3,4 regardless they will hurt someone. I just want to be able to stop them with out hurting family. Maybe candy cane them BB then buck or buck then BB. Awesome video thanks for the explanation.
Good to hear from my limey bretheren. Fun with shotguns is universal. 00 Buck is great but inside your own home the buckshot can go through walls & hit innocents in other rooms. If that is a concern, any birdshot will ruin an intruder's day and not catch the neighbor with any stray shot.
great video mate been shooting s/gun of years iv always stuck to 32gr 6's but seems 5 or 4 shot mite be an option cheers for the upload very formal ATB guy
type of choke means most down range improved cylinder is not the same as full choke or even turkey magnum double full ported choke I recommend a shotgun that has interchangeable choke tubes for different applications considering my Remington 870 has taken a fox at 90 yards with a 2×4 duplex Remington 3inch mag shotshell
pretty much difficult. for the own gun in south korea, you must get through the HARD evaluate and complex legal judge. south korea is one of the most difficult possess the gun contry in the world
if passed hard evaluate, the government only allow non-rifled firearms. like a shotgun, air hunting gun, and crossbow. / that mean, the good civilian never get rifled gun ever.
i enjoyed watching this because i kinda knew you were gonna be surprised ! Come to Canada and ill hand load you 2 3/4 and 3 inch versions of every single load type available for your second shotgun video ;P
will do mate i had 8000 acres in total all gone now but just gotta keep going waiting on a reply from a mate down in perthshire about crop protection from crows pigeons and hares so looking forward to it
Here in Florida it is legal to shoot deer with buckshot, but we also have slugs that can be used for a little longer distances. It is illegal in other states though, the rules vary.Normally I would use my .270 Winchester if I were to go for a deer though. The deer are fairly small down here in Florida, and with all the scrub brush it's pretty rare to get those long shots down here. The terrain is pretty flat unless you get into the Northern part of the state. Good hunting to you.
If you can get it try some #4 buckshot in 2 3/4 or 3 inch mag the pellet s are about 5.56mm and there are around 27 and 40 pellet in the cartridges. At 30 yards I get about a 2.5 foot spread out of an 18.5 inch open bore barrel. It messes up a piece of plywood something awful. Btw that is a beautiful shotgun that you all were using.
mate im subscribed dnt need to worrie mate you have some amazing vids on here. your information really helps mate. job well done. thumbs up from me dude :)
Firstly, very informative video thank you. Question for you: here in the UK is there any laws preventing from purchasing or modifying a shell and replace the round for rubber balls?
technically no provided you still have 9 pellets or more in the shell so it remains section 2. I don't think there is any stipulation of the type of specific material for the shot.
I've used single shot I got at Walmart in the 90's is got me everything from Dove, pheasants, 🦃, 🦌 and good bear protection for the ranch. Just got Mossberg Maverick rifle barrel. For the bigger critters mountain lion.
Wow, definitely wasn't expecting to hear a British accent. Good to hear our cousins from across the pond enjoying firearms.
People keep saying that! Take a look around the channel, I do lots of shooting :)
I live in a good middle class neighborhood surrounded by more of the same.
I had an attempted home invasion robbery about 2 weeks ago. I'm 50+ female that lives alone. The only reason they didn't get past my door, that looks like a normal wood door with small window at the very top, was because my frame was also steel. it's the only one that I have been able to save up for to change. The only reason why I installed that one door with a steel frame was about a year ago a locksmith came to my house to redo all of my locks and he noticed that all of my doors were steel. He also brought to my attention that steel doors will do no good unless I have steel frames around the steel doors. They are pricey so I have to save up one door at a time. The one door I had replaced was the one door that was being kicked in and it held itself by God's grace!
Being a daughter of an ex-marine I found myself shocked, saddened and realized I became complacent about my safety as well as anybody else that could have been a in my home.
I realized I had to do something about it. I also knew that what I had in my home would not stop anybody, especially 2 anybody's, if they had chosen a different door to kick down. Pepper spray and bear spray doesn't do well inside of a home.
The end of my story, I use the buckshot. I pray to God I never have to pull trigger inside of my home but if I have to I will and I will have to live with it for the rest of my life. If I don't chances are I will not be living.
It seems that people view all Americans is gun-loving. I don't love guns but I have a GREAT respect for them. There are multiple reasons WHY I respect them but most of all, for home defense. By the way the gentleman that gave me that information about the steel frames was from the Middle East. He told me he had seen many doors get kicked in and the only one he saw the gave any time for the people to get out of their homes, we're homes that had steel doors with steel-frames.
I will forever be grateful for that gentleman that gave me that piece of advice that afternoon.
Best wishes from across the pond where my ancestors came from in 1803.
Happy hunting!
@union310 and now you can't even own a $15 spring assisted opening knife from Amazon. times change homie.
@union310 no ... our gun laws are necessary... especially when a corrupt government runs things.... we need our guns and well keep them.... one way or another..... " the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of Patriots and tyrants from time to time."
@snoopy dubnation our gun laws are the best in the world. If america switched to the same licencing system we have there wouldn't be so many mass shootings and gun violence over there.
like imagine, you could still buy all the guns you could buy now, you could still use guns for self defence and all that, but to buy them you would need a background check+police interviews+ property checks+a medical record check to see if you have any mental health issues. I only see positives.
am fairly new to shotgun shooting and have watched a few vids on you tube this is by far the best yet. very helpful
+Christopher Wakelin Yes it was funny, when I did this video along with 'shotgun chokes explained' i was learning too and saw that there were few videos on the subject that could be understood by a beginner. Both videos have proved popular, thanks for watching :)
Thanks for the video ... it was very helpful to see the demonstration of each level of shot right after each other, as well as the size differences in the first part. Well done.
I hope that one day all of you in the UK regain your rights. It is a shame what has happened over there in regard to the infringements upon everyone; it should not be that way in a free society. It's absolutely a crime that your Olympic team can't practice in its own country.
Thanks for watching and your kind words! It may change one day, the leader of UKIP has stated he intends to allow us to have our handguns back. Maybe even semi auto centre fire. We don't have rights, of any kind, here in the UK so I hope things change .
Every gun video I watch is typically made by someone in the southern us. It's always a shocker to see a brit with a gun
Lots of people own guns here! In fact, if I was allowed to show it, I could show you me doing practical shotgun/mini rifle comps too. We are a persecuted group here though, so we keep a low profile.
@@srspower yea well, from what I hear you guys need some more guns. Guess I don't know how it works, I always thought they were illegal there. I've even heard there are muzzle energy restrictions on air guns. So are you allowed to get them with a special license or something?
@@thomasanderson6426 For Air rifles anyone over 18 can buy one provided it produces less than 12ft lb energy. Anything above that requires a firearms license. But most people who get a firearms license just get a rifle! But you need to show 'good reason' for each calibre to be issued a license and the Police visit your house to check your security cabinet etc.
great video, very informative :) It's nice to have a British uploader talking about standard loads that are used over here. While I love watching videos on slugs, bolo and all the other kinds of nasties, it's not very practical for a British shooter. This vid ticked all the right boxes, good ballistic testing too :)
Great video. Especially like the show and tell of the shotgun rounds. Very informative video and the demonstration in the 2nd part was an awesome bonus. Thanks for putting this video out there.
MrGTO4 I'm glad you enjoyed it, check the channel out I have done a few videos like this. Thanks for watching :)
Saved me from sawing off a bunch of shells to see what was inside! Cheers.
Yes, #4 buckshot seems to be a really good choice for HD because it is a good compromise between power and number of shot. It also wont penetrate numbers of walls either and hurt your neighbors or family members! Great video chaps!
In reference to the 00 buck @ 30 yards (meters, whatever) One of the benefits to the availability of different weapons here in the U.S. is the ability to select the weapon for the job: shotgun for close range, rifle for long range, pistol for out of the home protection. This was a great video, wonderful comparisons of both shell anatomy as well as physical impact of each type. good job.
I am glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching :)
Love the effort gone into this video an old one but a favourite
"I may have been proven wrong there."
No matter the issue, I have to respect someone that looks at fact over anything else. Cheers and happy shooting.
Thanks for watching and don;t forget to sub :)
srspower I don't know if y'all have a lot of big game but you probably guessed from the name it's meant for deer and other large game.
srspower what about slugs and buck n ball
Cool video. This was quite refreshing from the usual video tutorials by Bob from Kentucky. Its good to watch videos by some bro-tier guys in the UK. Hope you come to the states often to enjoy all the firearms stuff.
Unfortunately I have only visit your great country once and that was New York! So firearms weren't exactly available! But I do hope to visit soon. It would be awesome to shoot some handguns, and semi auto centre fire. Glad you enjoyed the video and don't forget to sub! :)
got my first shotgun this week. These videos have been so helpful.
Glad to hear it Mark and thanks for watching :)
Thank you for making this. I've always shot rifle before, but was given a Mossberg 835 recently and wasn't sure what shells to get. This video helped quite a bit.
Fascinating stuff! Fired my first shotgun yesterday at clays and found this very informative!
Through and informative, I really like what you do with the Argos catalogue there.
Glad you liked it and thanks for watching :)
Enjoyed that, watched all 17 mins of it. Useful info. Loved 12:25, **kin hell, made me laugh. Like no 1201 . Cheers. G
+AirgunGearShow Thanks for watching Giles, always nice to have a comment from you :)
Yall made a good video here. I already knew about the rounds just watch because it's a passion of mine. Keep up the good work guys.
+Aj wood Thanks for watching Aj :)
Thanks for your testing results.
A couple of points from the USA on huntiing and personal defense.
00 and 000 Buck shot is/was originally used for certain deer hunting seasons in the USA and Canada.
With the advent new Rifled barrel shotguns, rifled slugs shells are becoming more common for deer and bigger game due to more accuracy and impact energy at close to moderate ranges of 150 yds or less.
For personal defense in the USA the general rule of law is that you [or family ]are in immidiate danger of death or serious injury, usually meaning that the attacker is 20 yds or less in range. My home personal defense load is a 'commercial "Shotshell"which is a combination . 65 caliber round ball and 6 "00" Buckshot. I sequentially mix other loads in my 12 gauge Mossberg pump if I should happen to miss. A lot of ballistic gel testing as well as 12 guage deer hunting videos are available on You Tube.
We'll done. As a shotgun newbie I've learn a lot from you. Thank you.
Thanks for watching, don't forget to check out my other videos :)
vizslas
Thank you for the shot shell comparisons. Shotguns are versatile and lots of fun.
My favorite is an L.C. Smith 12 gauge my great grandfather left me 60 years ago.
Thanks for watching :)
'Love that accent. I missed my British friends.Well explained video.I gained more understanding of what loads to use for target shooting.More power to you. You should have been a teacher!
Excellent! great stuff learned a lot. Just got my first shot gun last week . Rock Island armory/Armscore M5 Nickel Matte. I needed some great info. Thanks from the states.
I'm glad it helped, make sure you check out my recent video plastic vs fibre wad and shotgun chokes explained. Thanks for watching and the sub :)
Thank you very much for posting this. As someone thats still finding their feet in the shotgun world here in the uk that was very informative. We were using no. 6 on the range the other day, must say i prefer it to the normal 7's. OO is on the list of odd things to find now. Just for novelty. Thanks again.
00 is hard to find in the UK but SG is pretty much the same. Thanks for watching :)
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SG is EXACTLY the same as OO
Not quite, it doesn't have the packing stuff. From shells i have seen anyway.
Thanks for the great vid, guys. I'm brand new to shotguns, so this video was perfect for me to learn about the different types of shells available. I'm in the process of buying a Mossberg 590 A1 for home defense. Looks like that 00 buckshot would be best for that purpose. Btw, I'm a member of an English Springer Spaniel fb page, so I get to see many hunting pics posted by Brit hunters out in the field. Looks like you've got lots of great hunting out in the UK.
Thanks again for the great vid. I've definitely "liked and subscribed". Keep up the good work.
Yes 00 buck would definitely do the job! And yes we do have some fantastic hunting here although no public land for hunting so you have to know the right people. Thanks for the sub :)
giving it a Thumbs up for the "theres nothing like cordite in the morning " ;D
Yes sir we do luv our 00 Buck. Howdy from Arizona
What a cracking video chaps! Very informative and rather amusing!
Would have loved to see you tripping out of argos with 5 catalogues under your arm!!
Well done.
Thanks for this. I am a newbie to shooting and found it very useful. :-)
Its you guys this is aimed at! Thanks for watching :)
Me 2 ! just waiting for my ticket to land to go and pick up my Browning
Loving the Argos catalogue as the target! Brilliant video, very informative, thank you :)
Excellent video. This cleared a lot of things up.
Good to see the comparison of shot size. Good video
Different buckshot will pattern differently from the same barrel. Federal flight control is known to have very tight groups. Nice vid, thanks.
There was a time when the UK made some of the best rifles & shotguns in the world. Their legacy sill lives on with collectors; often in the $10,000 range. Their drilling, double rifles and magnificent wood was regarded as some of the world's finest. Too bad you lost most of your rights.
Well we still do make the finest side by sides Holland and Holland, Purdy etc out of my price range though! But yes you would not believe what we have to go through just to get a .22 rifle a shotgun is easy by comparison and that still involves a police house inspection.
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My Lord, man - police inspecting your home? Terrible, & does nothing productive..
I knew something was amiss when I read some of the different Bill from the House of Commons (& Lords) re: the banning of knives with points, serialization (numerically of edged objects like swords, hunting knives, etc).This can be found (there had been more thna a single proposal) by doing a SEARCH for "proposed knife legislation within the UK".
Some fellows in the USA call idiots with "window dressing" legislation "Libtards" ( a leftist+a retarded individual) But I find that somewhat offensive as retarded individuals are challenged in their thinking my organic elements; it's not their decision. Nor do they (generally bear ill-will toward others for differences in their world view, economics, or being. Most seem without deceitful agenda and a good percentage become very productive, loving people. I can't say that about politicians on either side: marketing themselves, lying, & obsessed with self promotion.
John Grey Not only an inspection. Ammunition has to be locked away separately and you are limited to how many rounds you can own. Also each round you buy is recorded as is each one you fire if shot at a club. You have to have 'good reason' for each calibre ie: land to shoot on for game/vermin and/or membership of a club. You need two people to vouch for you, background check and a mental health check. It's no problem for me other than it is a LOT of hassle.
***** That's a major hassle. Glad to be a Texan.
*****
Notice how the gentleman (srspower) describes very closely some of the present administrations proposals.
EXACTLY those folks that may NEED help would be shied away from a therapist if that person could deny them their rights if they said something emphatically.
Most individuals have suffered loss at one time or another. Grief, depression or for that matter anger may be phrased in a manner misunderstood by someone w/ a political agenda or hypersensitive themselves (transference or negative counter-transference). Frankly, were some law enacted to make me see someone, I would not be honest w/ them for fear they may do MUCH more than deny me a firearm. It easily could be twisted into a "record or documentation" of mental heath problems were someone to express grief with intensity.
Mental Health should NEVER be a political issue. The bond of trust is broken by simply divergent laws existing. One is PAYING to speak w/ another impartial person re: personal issues. Exactly those people who may need it the most would avoid proper therapy. There is already a disparity of power built into may less cometent therapists; why not think this out? Warning signs of suicidal ideation are NOT a political football. Anger-managment treatment is best treated by a well educated therapist; NOT some Graduate-Level marginalized young lady w/ her own issues to deal with. We have too many "marriage counselors", etc with degrees they got from a diploma-mill.
It's really time for use to deal with the problem in a new manner; not doing the same thing & expecting differing results. We have approx. 300 million firearms in the USA they are also an inanimate object - they are not going away. All the more we would do is create ANOTHER banquet for Organized Crime.
The problem of Violence is the issue. The UK had some MP's seriously propose legislation for the serialization of knives and the end of knives with points!
Look up UK proposals for "dealing with knife crime". You will be saddened by the lack of clarity & "objectification" of a behaviour. One cannot legislate behaviour! It seems obvious yet it continues.
Great video and answers a few questions on loads for a new shooter in the uk
Matt Taylor I'm glad it helped and thanks for watching :)
Thanks for posting this video, sure helped alot ✌️
Very useful information. Nicely done. Thank you for posting this, mate. And yes, I subscribed.
Nice work guys...I'm learning lots for a shotgun novice
Glad to hear it mate, and there is more to come :)
top vid mate liked and favorite done i dont really have the ability to make this kind of video anymore due to losing my permission on an estate due to changing ownership but at least i can recommend your video through my channel plus you are better at making these kinds of videos than me so keep them up mate they are helpful to me and everyone else good luck on the pigeons this year mate the farms in the area are having huge problems atm so ima try grab some permissions while its still there
Very good video 17 minuets 13 seconds not wasted, plentyof educational value!
Thank you for posting ;-)
cubleycat Thanks for watching :)
Cool video, and using catalogs as a standard was brilliant.
Yes they worked well! Thanks for watching :)
the #1 Lead shot are larger bird, if you are wondering. In North America wild turkey, if you were wondering what you would use them for.
very interesting look at various shot, well done, perhaps a report on the Argouse range would reveal some interesting orders. Made me smile.
I don't understand?
While 00 buck is now used for defense, generally, here in the States, it was originally a deer hunting load. There's still a couple of states that mandate either buck or slugs for deer hunting.
Considering the minimal distances for home defense, and the fact that pattern size at those distances will range around 3 inches or less, many of us opt for #6 or less for home defense so as to limit over penetration. Since the shot impacts on a limited area, this is highly effective at neutralizing bad guys, and still leaves those who are behind walls relatively safe.
Longer distances, (more than a room), of course, require a buck load. i.e. #'s 4 buck (not the same as 4 shot), #1 buck, BB, 0, 00, & 000...... 00, of course, is an overall favorite because of balanced ball size and loading density.
I also noticed that you tend towards a larger shot size application than we do here. Most of us start with #8 shot for dove and quail, moving to # 5 or 6 for ducks (smaller has trouble penetrating wing feathers), and #2, 3, or 4 for geese. Typically rabbits are hunted with the same size shot one is using for birds that season, and foxes and coyotes are hunted with small bore rifles.
Just thought you might like to know how we compare.
Kirk Boswell I use 7.5 for dove and quail and believe me its 100 times better
picked up some gamebore SG cartridges today, looking forward to putting a few through my Benelli.
+weeweeonthefire Be very careful, remember SG pellets are around 60 grains each and going at high speed. Treat it as though you were shooting a rifle ie: safe backstop and not in to the air!
thank you for the advice, thankfully I have a friends farm that I have permission to shoot on, with a decent dirt mound to set targets against.
Splendid demonstration chaps! We'll done!
Thanks a lot for watching mate, don't forget to sub :)
Great video, explained a lot! Ive only ever really needed two types of cartridge so never knew what all the others where like. Might have to try a few myself.
Glad it helped, thanks for watching :)
oh my god finally someone in the uk. i will hopefully get my licence soon.
I am sure you will, provided you remember to send off the forms! :)
That’s a good video mate, I gather the higher the number,the lighter the cartridge
The higher the number the smaller the shot size. The weight depends on the weight.
Excellent video. Informative and entertaining. 00 buck can make quite a mess.
stg04562 Thanks for watching :)
Oh and great video! Very well thought out and informative. What kind of choke were you using for the shooting part of the video? A lot of people in the US do like to use 00buck for home defense but I prefer birdshot just incase I happen to miss so I don't get any kind of over penetration through walls.
I think we used a modified choke for this test. And yes I think birdshot would be ample for such a use, as you can see close up even number 7 1/2 is pretty devastating. Thanks for watching :)
Thanks for the great video. What would be your first choice for pigeon shooting?
Just got a silver pigeon,I'll be using modified and improved modified in top barrel.Thanks for the info.
Thanks for watching Leo :)
What is the biggest load you can buy/shoot in the UK on a shotgun licence?
Anything with 9 pellets or more. So you might be able to get triple ought buckshot in a 3” shell. Good luck finding it though.
@@srspower Thank you for your incredibly quick response on an rather old video.
So I could, if I chose, buy 00 buck/sg 2 3/4 for a 12 gauge on a shotgun licence?
@@ClarkesonTheMarksman yes generally SG is the largest pellets you can get in the UK. It’s basically the same as 00 buckshot.
@@srspowercould you explain what size pellets are inside bb's, b's and a's please? Do they lie between 00 buck and 1?
@@ClarkesonTheMarksman Buckshot is an entirely different category to birdshot. BB is a type of birdshot. It's much smaller than any buckshot but still big for birdshot.
In the United States, down south we use 3" mag in 00 and 000 buck. for dear hunting.
Cheers again useful & fun at the same time, I'm about to get into shotgun shooting so helps a lot cheers
Thanks a lot for watching, don't forget to check out other videos in my explained series ie: Chokes, wadding etc. And I am about to edit a shotgun cleaning video :)
Very thorough and one of the best videos I've seen on this subject. My only and minor criticism would be that variation in target flexure upon impact could cause differences in penetration even for the same load. But the broader conclusions are clear. Thanks for the considerable effort that went into making this video. Is very helpful, especially to folks like me who are new to shotguns.
Thanks a lot for watching and commenting John, you may like other videos I have done in the explained series :)
***** I'll check them out. By the way, I forgot to mention that you speak the English language very well indeed. ;)
ChicagoJohn Nice of you to say! :)
Great video srspower! Here in sweden we use no 3 for foxes and no 1 for roe deer.Those buckshot sure had some penetration!
I have killed loads of whitetail deer here in the American south using that exact same Remington 00 buckshot load. Inside 40 yards the deer fold like a wet dish rag. It's also what I keep in my home defense riot shotguns in case of a home invasion or social unrest. As always, great informative video.
I bet they do! 00 buck is one hell of a load! Totally different to anything else other than slugs. Glad you like the channel, thanks for watching :)
Excellent, fascinating and very informative. That has helped a lot, thanks!
Glad to hear! Don't forget to sub and thanks for watching :)
Hello from across the pond - nice vid.
Thanks for watching Batt :)
Thanks,...great video. I now understand Shot numbers
very good demonstration. learned alot.
Thanks for watching :)
I am indeed from the U.S, Florida specifically. My shotgun does take chokes, and I currently have a full turkey choke for it. Not planning too much in the way of small birds, but I'll probably try for turkey and maybe even deer with some of the higher loads. Talking with some friends of mine, #4 is apparently good for turkey, and I've seen several "turkey loads" that are #4's. For deer I may use 00 buck. A friend told me to look into #4 Buckshot, that's apparently different from regular #4 loads
Very nice video, thank you. #00 is closely equivalent to a .308 pistol round so the penetration was no surprise on this side of the pond :-)
Yes it is a nasty load!
***** I would say he probably meant a .380.
Thanks for putting this up, very interesting.
Theophilus Fernleaf Thanks for watching, take a look around my channel. I have done quite a few videos like this :)
Yeah, I just subbed. Do you have any experience with a Mossberg 500? Any thoughts on it?
Theophilus Fernleaf Yes I have shot them quite a bit in practical comps. My friend Tom, who is often in my videos, uses a Mossberg 600 AKA the Newhaven AT 600. Basically the same as a 500 but with a larger capacity, nice wood as standard and a C-Lect choke system. I think they are excellent well engineered guns but it is a pity that most of them are fixed cylinder bore. For competition shoots they are great for shooting birds on the wing? I think any pump is a significant disadvantage.
Amazing video. What fun!....Thanks from Indiana..
Thanks for watching Rick :)
Man, you are my shotgun teacher starting from this moment. Hahaha
Im still looking for that good home defense round. Buck sounds like the right choice but i don't want to hurt anyone else in the home thats non intruder. Why I have been looking at the BB or #3,4 regardless they will hurt someone. I just want to be able to stop them with out hurting family. Maybe candy cane them BB then buck or buck then BB. Awesome video thanks for the explanation.
Good to hear from my limey bretheren. Fun with shotguns is universal. 00 Buck is great but inside your own home the buckshot can go through walls & hit innocents in other rooms. If that is a concern, any birdshot will ruin an intruder's day and not catch the neighbor with any stray shot.
great video mate been shooting s/gun of years iv always stuck to 32gr 6's but seems 5 or 4 shot mite be an option cheers for the upload very formal ATB guy
type of choke means most down range improved cylinder is not the same as full choke or even turkey magnum double full ported choke I recommend a shotgun that has interchangeable choke tubes for different applications considering my Remington 870 has taken a fox at 90 yards with a 2×4 duplex Remington 3inch mag shotshell
Very well done video.👍💙👍
that smokes..... awesome
pretty much difficult. for the own gun in south korea, you must get through the HARD evaluate and complex legal judge. south korea is one of the most difficult possess the gun contry in the world
if passed hard evaluate, the government only allow non-rifled firearms. like a shotgun, air hunting gun, and crossbow. / that mean, the good civilian never get rifled gun ever.
even government never allow Slug ammo for shotgun. the shotgun owner only can use birdshot, and buckshot.
Very informational ! Thanks for the Video!
Thanks for watching :)
So where's the slug? 🤣😅
Right
Tidy...saved me cutting up few of my shells, I know how you felt with Remington shell lol. Only criticism video bit windy. Cheers
+Roy Hopkins Yeah I need a mic cover! Thanks for watching :)
Great viewing and have just reposted on The Stalking Directory as most of us have 12g as well...
Cheers
iain
Most in the states use #4 buckshot for defense...and it is good out to 50yrds. For deer too.
Good information brother 👍🏿🎯👍🏿
Picked up from Fieldsports Channel, very interesting with some apt expleatives!
i enjoyed watching this because i kinda knew you were gonna be surprised ! Come to Canada and ill hand load you 2 3/4 and 3 inch versions of every single load type available for your second shotgun video ;P
Come to Chinanada ?
No thanks, I like being able to own guns and ammo.
Great videos by u best on utude for explanations I am 17 just getting into shooting love the videos keep them coming
I can only imagine what kind of hoops you had to jump through to own a gun in the UK.
Connor Vaughn you just need a license it’s not hard
will do mate i had 8000 acres in total all gone now but just gotta keep going waiting on a reply from a mate down in perthshire about crop protection from crows pigeons and hares so looking forward to it
Here in Florida it is legal to shoot deer with buckshot, but we also have slugs that can be used for a little longer distances. It is illegal in other states though, the rules vary.Normally I would use my .270 Winchester if I were to go for a deer though. The deer are fairly small down here in Florida, and with all the scrub brush it's pretty rare to get those long shots down here. The terrain is pretty flat unless you get into the Northern part of the state. Good hunting to you.
If you can get it try some #4 buckshot in 2 3/4 or 3 inch mag the pellet s are about 5.56mm and there are around 27 and 40 pellet in the cartridges. At 30 yards I get about a 2.5 foot spread out of an 18.5 inch open bore barrel. It messes up a piece of plywood something awful. Btw that is a beautiful shotgun that you all were using.
Yes number #4 would be ideal for fox. And thankyou, it is a Browning B525 made in Japan.
Thank you fun video from 😎 sunny California
Great vid, nice looking shot gun.
Yes it is a Browning B525 in 12 bore, thanks for watching :)
mate im subscribed dnt need to worrie mate you have some amazing vids on here. your information really helps mate. job well done. thumbs up from me dude :)
Good show, ol' boy! I shoot a 3 1/2 inch Mossberg. Time to get a KSG. Thank you for the info!
Great video,what chokes were you using and does that gun say it can take 3inch shells?
Very entertaining our Brit kin,but which shells would you use for the two guys clacking the coconut shells at 50yds?
Fantastic video laddy, very informative
number 4 bird shot is nice
briliant video very helpfull but just giving advice to everyone on an over under shotgun the lower barrel must be shot first and then the upper
Firstly, very informative video thank you. Question for you: here in the UK is there any laws preventing from purchasing or modifying a shell and replace the round for rubber balls?
technically no provided you still have 9 pellets or more in the shell so it remains section 2. I don't think there is any stipulation of the type of specific material for the shot.
@@srspower interesting. Ive screenshot this convo so worst case scenario its you that goes down for man slaughter 🙂
I've used single shot I got at Walmart in the 90's is got me everything from Dove, pheasants, 🦃, 🦌 and good bear protection for the ranch. Just got Mossberg Maverick rifle barrel. For the bigger critters mountain lion.
Another great video.
+Peree Fance Thanks for watching :)
Good vid well done . Lot of time invested