For any of you wondering what the cause of the accident was. The flight cruised between FL350 and 400. The pilots watched the temperature of the fuel intently to make sure that it did not freeze at the high altitudes. The minimum temperature of the fuel recorded was -34°C. Well above the freezing point of jet fuel. However, while the jet fuel did not freeze some of the water in the fuel did. This had no effect on the flight until on short final some of the ice (now a slush) moved into the fuel heat exchanger and restricted fuel flow to the engines. This occurred 720ft above the ground. Pilots noticed the problem, but could do nothing to fix it. The captain decreased the flaps from 30-25, reducing drag and increasing speed just enough to miss the ILS instrumentation. Much more going on than meets the eye.
@@page938 as a pilot I too know Ryanair land perfectly acceptably, however Ryanair jokes are always a good laugh. Lighten up, they’ll charge extra for a sense of humour though.
it went over the top of our truck (heading up Hatton road towards Bedfont to drop of some wood chips at the allotments just up the road) just before it crashed. we didn't get to see the actual crash because of a big hedge row on the runway side of the road. but it didn't look right when it crossed over us.
plus they obviously stalled at a VERY low altitude (Probably less than 50ft) otherwise, there would have been a bigger incident than this! the landing gear obviously absorbed most of the shock because some passengers say they didn't realize they had crashed until the oxygen masks came down, they thought it was just a heavy landing. Thank god for soft mud. They passed the perimeter fence at about 15-20ft.
the pilot wrote a bio book, its ok, but doesnt fill one with lots of confidence, in the way BA treat their pilots after an incident. Compared with the US pilot the saved everyone when he had that water landing in New York and how he was treated.
If you listen to interviews with Captain Sully, him & his crew were also put through a terrible time by investigators. They tried to blame them for not landing at an airport.
And by the time investigators arrived it had melted so the clues had pretty much gone. Think it was another 777 in the states that provided the missing pieces.
2023 (so far) Statistics. Heathrow Airport in London is the UK's largest and busiest airport as well as being the busiest airport in Europe and the seventh busiest in the world based on passenger traffic. Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport remains the busiest airport in the world with 5.2 million seats in September 2023. 2008 statistics, when this BA crash landing took place. 1. Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport 90,039,280 2. O'Hare International Airport 69,353,876 3. London Heathrow Airport 67,056,379
@@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 … Atlanta has a mix of domestic and internationally flights just like Heathrow. It’s inevitable that Atlanta would have far more domestic flights being that the USA is much larger than the U.K. However, Atlanta international flights are still a considerable number being that it’s also main Hub airport for Delta Airlines which has a very large international network. Add all other international carriers with direct flights to and from Atlanta then I think it will still leave Heathrow standing?
@@peterbothwell9005Atlanta has more aircraft movements, Heathrow has more international flights, therefore Heathrow has more international flights than Atlanta. The word “international” makes all the difference.
Typical British media sensationalism stories, making out the wing was ripped off, that it was near houses, that it was out of fuel. All of which turned out not to be true, it was a design flaw with a fuel/oil heat exchanger that basically warms the fuel up before it goes to the engine and cools the engine oil down at the same time.
@@ChloeLouiseeB Yeah it was, Sadly the British media are like that utter vultures. BA should know better but from what I've heard their culture is still a bit 1950s.
this is what happened to the a,when it had taken off and on course for Heathrow all aircraft going to northern europe take a shoutcut through russia.but in russia the engine had a small amount of water in the engine and that water froze starving the engines of fuel and thats what happernr
In the moment he couldn't recall the flight number and instead said his next one. It made no difference considering there was not going to be any confusion about which aircraft it was.
The pilots next scheduled flight was to be Speedbird 95. He said this instead of 38 by mistake. It was inconsequential as it was evident which plane had the accident.
3:55 Witness: "Within seconds, he crash-landed and hit the runway....which isn't the best thing to do." On the contrary, it's absolutely the best thing to do compared to e.g. crash-landing and hitting Buckingham Palace. 🙄
Now I'm flying.... One of the pilots mistakenly pressed at a wrong button and an alarm started to sound in the cabin. One day later.. (BBC News) : " An airplane in London lost one of its wing, and the airplane rapidly started to get in stall position and they crashed. There were 300 passengers onboard, 100 humans were injured and 47 humans died in the horrible crash. " omg hahhaha
just redwatching a few BA incidents - the one in Vegas (engine fire at take off) is cool as fck, however, this story misses out that according to the pilots book, BA treated him like shite, and continue to do so. Mate, in huge Co's only the ££ matters, you are just one dot on their spreadsheet, and if you fck with their media/social standing (risk their profit) you are dead meat. Dont matter that you saved all them lives - and when a few die, its "cost of doing business" attitude... ££££ only this matters. "Your safety is our first priority"............ yeah right !
It literally happened 30 seconds before touch down. They didn't get any warning. They didn't even have time to warn the flight attendants and passengers. They weren't in the brace position
@peteconrad2077 No. It's not damage to a vital organ I guess. You would just need to manage the bleeding. It's still a significant injury. That's all I was saying
For any of you wondering what the cause of the accident was. The flight cruised between FL350 and 400. The pilots watched the temperature of the fuel intently to make sure that it did not freeze at the high altitudes. The minimum temperature of the fuel recorded was -34°C. Well above the freezing point of jet fuel. However, while the jet fuel did not freeze some of the water in the fuel did. This had no effect on the flight until on short final some of the ice (now a slush) moved into the fuel heat exchanger and restricted fuel flow to the engines. This occurred 720ft above the ground. Pilots noticed the problem, but could do nothing to fix it. The captain decreased the flaps from 30-25, reducing drag and increasing speed just enough to miss the ILS instrumentation. Much more going on than meets the eye.
Hats off to BA flight and cabin crew
This is the oldest comment I’ve ever seen
Jeez 13yrs ago
@@twiceooo6127 15 now
Wow 15 years old
wow 16 years old
News reporters always make it sound worse than it actually is, both wings were attached to the aircraft.
Still smoother landing than Ryanairs do
Bro why do u criticized Ryanair landing they always touch down normally they only do hard landings on short runway to stop in time .
Ryanair would of charged you for using the escape shoot
@@intothemultiverse1033 indeed;) before letting the people escape from the plane they would have sorted priority and non-priority passengers first
@@affanali214 exactly! Thank god someone understands performance 🙄
@@page938 as a pilot I too know Ryanair land perfectly acceptably, however Ryanair jokes are always a good laugh. Lighten up, they’ll charge extra for a sense of humour though.
Given the suddeness of the circumstances of the crash landing, kudos to the crew for everyone walking away from the crash
Every landing you walk away from is a good landing 😂😂
If you can reuse the aircraft afterwards, it's a great landing.
Well one guy had a broke leg, so he probably wasn't able to walk away from it
Edit: hop @@sternreport
The news always makes a drama out of an incident. "160mph", "wheels flying off" etc.
He saved so many lives that day
This is why we have the best pilots ;)
I remember this story, and I watched it live
There's live footage of this from behind, I swear I've seen it. Can't find it though
it went over the top of our truck (heading up Hatton road towards Bedfont to drop of some wood chips at the allotments just up the road) just before it crashed. we didn't get to see the actual crash because of a big hedge row on the runway side of the road. but it didn't look right when it crossed over us.
plus they obviously stalled at a VERY low altitude (Probably less than 50ft) otherwise, there would have been a bigger incident than this! the landing gear obviously absorbed most of the shock because some passengers say they didn't realize they had crashed until the oxygen masks came down, they thought it was just a heavy landing. Thank god for soft mud. They passed the perimeter fence at about 15-20ft.
amazing
I remember this news exactly 10 years later
Main gear is supposed to snap off, to protect the wing and fuel tanks on crash landing.
well done BA
Neither of the wings was 'ripped from the aircraft's body' 🤦♂
Typical overreaction ballshit from the media
@1:22 no wing was ripped from the aircraft.
Indeed.
the pilot wrote a bio book, its ok, but doesnt fill one with lots of confidence, in the way BA treat their pilots after an incident. Compared with the US pilot the saved everyone when he had that water landing in New York and how he was treated.
If you listen to interviews with Captain Sully, him & his crew were also put through a terrible time by investigators. They tried to blame them for not landing at an airport.
At least the plane cleared the perimeter fence
Thanks to the captain.
UK accent remembers me Thomas and Friends 1984 narrator voice
It was ice went in the pipes
And by the time investigators arrived it had melted so the clues had pretty much gone. Think it was another 777 in the states that provided the missing pieces.
Where’s part 2??
"the world's busiest international airport"
I love how the British just make stuff up
At the time, it was the airport with the most international passengers in the world, not necessary the busiest overall. It still ranks very high.
2023 (so far) Statistics.
Heathrow Airport in London is the UK's largest and busiest airport as well as being the busiest airport in Europe and the seventh busiest in the world based on passenger traffic.
Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport remains the busiest airport in the world with 5.2 million seats in September 2023.
2008 statistics, when this BA crash landing took place.
1. Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport 90,039,280
2. O'Hare International Airport 69,353,876
3. London Heathrow Airport 67,056,379
@@peterbothwell9005I think you missed the word “international”. Most of the flights out of Atlanta are not international flights.
@@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 … Atlanta has a mix of domestic and internationally flights just like Heathrow. It’s inevitable that Atlanta would have far more domestic flights being that the USA is much larger than the U.K.
However, Atlanta international flights are still a considerable number being that it’s also main Hub airport for Delta Airlines which has a very large international network. Add all other international carriers with direct flights to and from Atlanta then I think it will still leave Heathrow standing?
@@peterbothwell9005Atlanta has more aircraft movements, Heathrow has more international flights, therefore Heathrow has more international flights than Atlanta. The word “international” makes all the difference.
BA DID speculate... Instead of waiting for the report, rumours started. Poor incident handling by BA!
anyone would speculate why a plane crached. a company has no shot at quieting rumors.
Except that’s not true. It’s not true at all. BA didn’t speculate. A few misguided members of cabin crew got the wrong end of the stick.
Typical British media sensationalism stories, making out the wing was ripped off, that it was near houses, that it was out of fuel. All of which turned out not to be true, it was a design flaw with a fuel/oil heat exchanger that basically warms the fuel up before it goes to the engine and cools the engine oil down at the same time.
The way BA and the media treated the captain was even more of a disgrace.
@@ChloeLouiseeB Yeah it was, Sadly the British media are like that utter vultures. BA should know better but from what I've heard their culture is still a bit 1950s.
and I would also surmise that the damage to the wingroots were done by the gear as it was ripped off
Thanks for this, I am currently reading the book, and have seen the Mayday documentary.
the LF% is really low on this flight...
Isn’t it time we looked at more recent crashes?
This was posted 16 years ago, you choose to watch it now 😂
I remember this guy from the Lockerbie news reports. Long service.
Heathrow is *NOT* the busiest international airport in the world...Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson Inernational is by _F A A A A A R._
It is for international flights. Hence the use of the word “international”
Was there no video footage of this happening? 🤔
notmanynamesleft I don’t think so, since no one knew it was gonna happened.
@@dxtnguyxn4179 airports have cameras everywhere 🤔
@@notmanynamesleft maybe they might not want to show it idk lol.
@@notmanynamesleft You’d be surprised at how little camera coverage the is at airports.
3:34 I dont think she passed her flight test, Dave !
Itv news accuracy is not theit remit😊😊😊😊😊
Remember kids, JET A1
Very lucky the plane was not full or it would of been a different outcome . Ice gummed up the fuel system & shut down the engines.
Surprisingly, aircraft glide further with more weight. It’s counterintuitive but true.
this is what happened to the a,when it had taken off and on course for Heathrow all aircraft going to northern europe take a shoutcut through russia.but in russia the engine had a small amount of water in the engine and that water froze starving the engines of fuel and thats what happernr
What’s Russia got to do wiht it.
"Mayday, mayday, Speedbird, speedbird... 95, 95." (First officer on ATC, moments before impact).
First Officer flying. Capt on radio.
In the moment he couldn't recall the flight number and instead said his next one. It made no difference considering there was not going to be any confusion about which aircraft it was.
Carriage way? Horse carriages? LOL
Carriage way is the word we use for a set of road lanes.
How did it not explode?
Read the final report
Another happy landing😆
hello there
BeiJING, like "jingle bells," people! Pronounce it exactly how it looks in English, gosh.
No In uk like me we say bay jzing
Probably Americanism
What does 95 means?
The pilots next scheduled flight was to be Speedbird 95. He said this instead of 38 by mistake. It was inconsequential as it was evident which plane had the accident.
No, they had been using it in the sim and just instinct action
I'm watching 22/12/18 🙏
asiana airlines similar accident
that was pilot error though, thid weasnt
The old ass Asiana pilot couldn't see where he was going
3:55 Witness: "Within seconds, he crash-landed and hit the runway....which isn't the best thing to do."
On the contrary, it's absolutely the best thing to do compared to e.g. crash-landing and hitting Buckingham Palace. 🙄
Now I'm flying....
One of the pilots mistakenly pressed at a wrong button and an alarm started to sound in the cabin.
One day later..
(BBC News) : " An airplane in London lost one of its wing, and the airplane rapidly started to get in stall position and they crashed. There were 300 passengers onboard, 100 humans were injured and 47 humans died in the horrible crash. "
omg hahhaha
Rip British airways 38 june 24 2000 to January 17 2008
I think the plane (G-YMMM) was delivered in May 2001 not 2000.
just redwatching a few BA incidents - the one in Vegas (engine fire at take off) is cool as fck, however, this story misses out that according to the pilots book, BA treated him like shite, and continue to do so. Mate, in huge Co's only the ££ matters, you are just one dot on their spreadsheet, and if you fck with their media/social standing (risk their profit) you are dead meat. Dont matter that you saved all them lives - and when a few die, its "cost of doing business" attitude... ££££ only this matters.
"Your safety is our first priority"............ yeah right !
That’s BS. I know the skipper of this one. H was angry that som cabin crew trainers put around false stories and BA didn’t do enough to quash them.
@@peteconrad2077 "Thats BS", which part ?, have you read HIS book, he wrote, how HE says BA treated him? I did!
@@were-all-human9427 better. I know him.
witness's are so useless.
actually the plane spotter is spot on
What ever happened in the report then?
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Incredible that no one has a video from inside the cabin NO ONE 🙄🙄 in any of this crashes . 🙄🙄🙄🙄
It was in 2008 and happened so quickly there’s no chance there was going to be any videos from inside
Most people had video phones in 2008 tho.
It literally happened 30 seconds before touch down. They didn't get any warning. They didn't even have time to warn the flight attendants and passengers. They weren't in the brace position
sounds like it ran out of fuel....or it wouldve burned when it hit the ground
No-one is seriously hurt? Part of the landing gear punctured the cabin and broke someone's leg. It was amazing nobody was killed though.
But that’s not life threatening.
@peteconrad2077 It can be. Open fractures can bleed a lot. Plus I would call that pretty serious
@@techmantra4521 it’s not generally classified as life threatening in emergency triage.
@peteconrad2077 No. It's not damage to a vital organ I guess. You would just need to manage the bleeding. It's still a significant injury. That's all I was saying
Ice crystals, formed over the engine casing some water in the fuel tank. condensation of weather route.