Can we talk about how immaculate the initial communication was for everything that was happening at once? "Stopping on the runway" "Roger, Fire!" "Do you see fire or smoke?" "Yes, fire off the right wing" "Roger send out the trucks" "Sending them" Within 10 seconds, everyone knew what they had to do
@@johannesjoestar8010 you clearly have zero knowledge of the subject. Different pilots and controllers react differently to emergency situations and this was a perfect example of what to do: short, clear communication in both sides with all relevant information and nothing else.
@ Ha! Fire trucks leave skid marks coming to a halt and are afraid to call the tower when someone finally asks "Where the hell are the fire trucks?!" "You told everyone to stop!!" "OH JESUS ... NOT YOU!!! GO MAN!! GO!!!"
It makes no sense at all to me that they didn't keep the 27L and 27R open just because they needed to close the 28 runways! Seems senseless to make all of those inbound aircraft divert when those runways on the north side are over a mile away from the emergency.
My very favorite line in the NTSB report: "As mentioned in section 1.1, one disk fragment (labeled “A” in figure 5), which weighed about 56.6 pounds, was recovered on the airport property in a UPS warehouse located about 2,935 ft south of the airplane’s position on the runway where the uncontained engine failure occurred.37" ...56 pound projectile launched over half a mile TO THE SOUTH.... which means, coming from the right engine, it arced OVER the fuselage rather than through it. Lucky break there.
My carrier had a 737 throw a left main tread fwd into the engine , which protested by spitting fan blade fragments through the fuselage. We found pieces in the baggage compartment, overhead bins and left interior panels. Full flight , not a soul was bothered.
It should be illegal for people to open overhead bins during evacs. Period. In fact, they should auto lock. If someone got in my way trying to retrieve their carry-on, I would go over them. Selfish people think their stuff is worth lives.
The flight attendants actually screwed up in a pretty big way in this particular event. They took it upon themselves to initial an evacuation without waiting for instructions from the cockpit. Doors were opened and slides were blown with engines still running. The aft slides were blowing from the engine jet blast and nearly became separated from the aircraft. Luckily everything worked out, but not an amazing job on their part. This is why they are trained to wait for instructions.
re: Bob, I'll be sure to cross out the part in my in-flight manual that says I'm allowed to initiate evacuation if I assess immediate danger. -a flight attendant
Be sure to have that page highlighted to explain to a family member why their loved one died from getting sucked into an engine that had not or could not be shut down. Or when you blow an aft slide and see it get ripped from the aircraft and go bye bye from the jet exhaust, be sure to tell yourself, "well my manual says that I'm allowed to since I know exactly what's going on".
I liked that you included the ATC communications after the runways were closed, as they proceeded to interact with all of the arrival flights to assess where they could diver to, how much time they have before they have to make the decision to divert (depending on remaining fuel), etc. Once you have a full stop at the airport, which considering that people maybe running /walking in all directions, then the ATC transitions into "juggling mode" ;) to make sure everyone who wanted to land at O'hare gets taken care of.
We really need to applaud the pilots. Perfect abort decision. All survived with little injuries. Had this gone airborne, the story would have been very different.
If airborne, they could still have landed safely, there are 8 runways on that airport and the pilots have a mental picture of where to put it down again in case of problems after V1. A slow flying airplane can turn faster than you think. But, if they had too much fuel, it could be risky. They know how to do a 180 turn and from which altitude.
The starboard wing melted down completely. The FAA says that a fan disk broke on the takeoff roll. This plane is going to be scrapped at O'Hare. I'm just glad everyone got out relatively okay.
He almost screamed: "Look at me! I saw bad things happen! Look at me! I have no idea what happened but I might help you with just saying there was an accident, because you didn't know that already!"
He was trying to report something odd in the middle of an emergency and got rattled. Maybe it was his first emergency. The point is, he saw something and didn't say "If it was important, somebody would be taking care of it." One should not try to be an expert on everything. If it seems odd and possibly a problem, tell somebody who knows for sure. But try to stay calm, okay?
@@akaSlasher Would help if he spoke a lilttle louder and clearer so the tower wouldnt have to ask him twice for 30 seconds of VHF time in the middle of an ongoing emergency
I was thinking the same thing but for AA 2364! ORD GND is a little busy right now why are you asking if your wheels up is still accurate. Then he says he just wanted to know if he should push. Well, hmmm, GND just said everyone STOP and STAY where you are....
@@MarkMcDaniel there was a case similar to this, where almost half the people on board died after a fire because people were trying to get their luggage. Its very dangerous because it takes up valuble time that you need to evacuate
@@MarkMcDaniel Shut up. It’s proven grabbing luggage and items kills, especially when a fire can take over an aircraft extremely quickly. How would you like to die because someone ahead of you spent ages trying to get their luggage out of the overhead lockers? Airlines insurance will cover any damages.
@@swt2296 In general... golf clap, I like the cut of your jib. Need to pay particular attention to any emergency equipment (rafts, med kits, AEDs, fire extinguishers, etc.) that are in overhead bins though and make sure they are only ever in non-locking bins... also need to factor in -morons- _average people_ struggling to try to open locked bins indefinitely because they get task fixated.
Phenomenal job by the pilots. I'm old enough to remember when you could monitor the cockpit on your headphones. Whenever I heard the airport was closed due to an emergency it sent chills down my spine.
@@TheMrVengeance I'm retired now. I've flown over 8,000,000 actual air miles to 164 nations, 48 states and 10 Canadian Provinces. I flew so often we moved next to DFW after the last child graduated high school. I'm a sarcastic smartass with humor and loved when one of the pilots or flight attendants would give me grief over the P.A. They would pause and then laugh about "don't give grief to anyone who controls the P.A. in an enclosed metal tube JB."
@@alan_davis - What? I asked a question, I got an answer. How am I "owned"?? 🤷🏻♀ Pretty sure the only person with a sad life is you; the person who's whole world apparently revolves around owning and being owned. Sounds pretty pathetic and childish.
It's seriously ATC and piloting at its absolute BEST when it comes to radio exchanges. The busiest airspaces make the best communicators, those guys both in the cockpits and on the ground are the very best, well done.
I could forgive the lifevest though. People act irrationally when they get adrenaline rush from example, plane being on fire. So they go back to instictive stuff and what they heard. They see the lifevest demo, that is what some will do. (though this may have been a hoodie as goncalodvd mentioned)
From one Flight Attendant to these superstars, well done!! Burns me up to see one guy walking away with his carry-on, though. That crap is what slows down the evacuation.
O'Hare ground (and tower for that matter) are super busy frequencies, and so it might feel like a burden for some pilots to do what they need to do and stop on the runway, but you can hear how the controller immediately pivoted from a "let's get everyone out" mindset to a "get this aircraft everything they need" mindset. It is that quick shift that can really save lives, and they did a great job
From these lines, THANKS very much for the support yesterday. At this moment, it's not known yet the cause of the rejected takeoff. American Arilines said engine failure (which we represented), and FAA and NTSB reported blown tire, then causing fire. Special thanks to P3D_Flightdeck for the simulator view and Carter Humphreys for his transcriptions. You guys cannot imagine how much time we spent yesterday working and editing this video. Give it a BIG LIKE as you guys always do!!! =D
+Michael Caplan I live near the airport; aircraft are on final over my neighborhood. The first sign of trouble for us were the two unmarked helicopters that parked in airspace directly overhead. You'd think there was an escaped fugitive on the loose. It was all they could do to film and feed their hysterical news reports. And they didn't leave, either. Helicopters were buzzing around all evening with nothing to see. Ridiculous. The airport had long gone back to work; clearly some people had nothing better to do but milk as much drama out of an incident as they could.
Lol that ASQ4114 be like, "hey tower, I have some info for you... his engine caught on fire, but I don't know anything else." Why would he bother the ATC and tie him up? Clearly he's a bit busy at the moment.
tigersfan14 No, the audio is not edited - it is in real time. ASQ4114's needless pedestrian comment blocked an active frequency during an emergency situation.
Air Wisconsin guy is a moron. Wasted everyones time during an emergency. it's obvious he was on fire, what could he provide that would be useful at that moment? FAA should take action on his licenses for stupidity.
Cause of fire was the high pressure side of the number 2 exploded sending parts 3000 feet away from the aircraft and into some buildings. Debris caused a fuel pool fire under the wing, causing it to sag down.
Holy cow! This was a lot more serious than this video led me to believe. It's a bit of a miracle everyone survived. www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-american-airlines-fire-ohare-ntsb-report-20180130-story.html
Wow, this is cool under pressure to the max!! Great job on the video, all of you. RTOs don't always have a definitive answer, but the pilots did a great job and ATC did a great job in taking it in stride.
Great video, and awesome details... I can't comprehend the level of stupidity certain individuals have to retrieve their large carry-on bags during a evacuation??
It never fails that while ATC is dealing with a life-or-death emergency, some pilot asks how long the delay is going to be. Can't blame them. If I were sitting in a delayed plane, I'd want to know too, but it just sounds a bit insensitive.
the ones asking ho long the delay is here were from my understanding currently in the air and they cannt stay there forever. The have to decide wheter to divert or not, and the earlier the better (before they run into a low fuel situation) - and the most important factor for that is the time. So it may sound insensitive, but the question is entirely justified because of the safety of their own Plane.
Aircraft that can't land are diverted, not delayed. Delays occur on the ground. Putting planes into holding patterns is, I guess, delaying them in some sense, but if they're in the pattern, their going to land shortly. The pilots asking how long were in planes waiting to either leave their gates or start their takeoff procedures. And it's not at all about being insensitive, it's about the incredibly high cost of delays. A delay at one airport means missed connections at another which means compensation and the logistical cost of another flight which has to be loaded, fueled, catered, and serviced. I used to work in flight catering, loaded all the grub and booze etc onto the planes. If one of us caused a plane to delay its pushback from the gate by more than 3 minutes, we got a written warning. A second delay was a suspension. A third and you were fired. lol... You would puke if you knew what airlines pay for the support they need on the ground. Airplanes on the ground *cost* money, they don't make it. That's why they were asking how long.
MrDamien15, this channel combines the traffic from various frequencies. So video had the tower frequency, ground control, emergency frequency, and the approach frequency all combined into one. The video's text shows which frequency it is that is talking, e.g. ORD GND and CHICAGO APPROACH.
@@ShuskiCross Not for their time on duty anymore? WoW! I guess we can thank SouthWest & Ryanair for that business model. Times have changed since my day...
@@Delta2D2 Not really; they have a slot booked at their destination airport, so not only would they need to worry about passenger delays, but also charges by the destination airport. On top of that the longer they are idling (assuming they aren't still plugged into the airport's power systems), the less fuel they have, and the more likely they need to delay/cancel the flight because they'll lack sufficient fuel for diversion, which is a legal and safety requirement.
Amazing coordination and response from everyone involved! Of course, O'Hare is a major airport (6th-busiest in the world!), so for them to shut everyone down, is a pretty major ordeal! I actually used to work with the woman who is now the Assistant Commissioner for Emergency Management at O'Hare & Midway, although this incident happened while she was still Director of Emergency Management at my employer.
the meaning of the "Go Cleveland" comment at 7:31 in case anyone was wondering, 5 hours after this event and 13 miles east, the Chicago Cubs hosted the Cleveland Indians at Wrigley Field for Game 3 of the 2016 World Series. Cleveland won that game 1-0, but the Cubs went on to win the Series in Game 7, breaking the 108 year curse since they last won the World Series. The Cubs being in the World Series again was a huge deal and everybody in the city knew about it, even non-sports fans. Cheeky pilot knew he would get a reaction :)
Wtg ... great response time. Your all heros. Even the planes waiting and being understanding and not putting any pressure on the airport to make your own landing. Nobody made a selfish move here at all. Wow.
The height from the door to the ground, or down the chute... can seriously injure or kill someone... it's stupid... let the stuff burn... always take it with the realization that you might not come back with it.
Ah, and the president of AFA-CWA, a flight attendants union, told the Sun Tmes “Apparently the threat of death by incineration fueled by thousands of gallons of jet fuel isn’t enough of a deterrent to stop passengers from taking time to grab carry-on bags during an emergency evacuation. The FAA should use existing laws to crack down on passengers endangering themselves and countless others as they put computers, cosmetics and clothing ahead of human life.” Some of these people actually pulled bags out of f/a hands.
Any passenger who wants to take his carry-on with him on evacuation are asked to please remain seated until everyone with common sense had evacuated....an elbow in the throat usually discourages most from stopping in front of me. Pilots did a great job but I am thinking a little more time and that runway their left behind them when they started their roll could have been beneficial. It is also important to know the wind and where the fire is....there have been fires on aborted takeoffs where the pilot turned off the runway and put the fire upwind of the main cabin and the flames were then blown into the cabin, melting the cabin, and forcing many passengers to be trapped by fire. Blocking the runway is always an option when you have a fire...get that fire downwind so it blows away from the aircraft cabin. Stopping on the runway in this instance with the wind at 220 kept the flames blowing away from the cabin. Good job.
this is the channel to send to anyone scared of flying, crashes are so rare because pilots and atc are amazing. Also VAS you are amazing and your channel is great
VASAviation - actually have been involved in aviation for 40 years as an enthusiast. Have got 6 hours dual time in a C172, and yes I still do learn how to communicate on the radio by listening. and still enjoy Steve Abraham the most
Very good job Guys! Ifly B767 300 too.. good job.. few injured.. to many questions from some pilot at the beginning of the Emergency from other Aircraft .. the ATC was fantastic.
he had exactly v1 "At that time, the airplane’s airspeed was 134 knots, which was also the calculated takeoff decision speed (V1). The auto speedbrakes activated about 2 seconds after the autobrakes.8 In a postaccident statement, the captain indicated that he rejected the takeoff because he thought that the airplane was “unable/unsafe to fly.” " ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR1801.pdf
Can I say, not just a great job to the pilots, ATC and firies who responded, performing an absolutely wonderful job, but to every pilot, ATC and Firie who responded to similar incidences in the past who did not live to pass on their lessons, who had to rely on the the system to teach their lessons to the next generation. Your sacrifice was not in vain. Rest peacefully knowing we have learned from your sacrifice and saved more lives thanks to you.
no, he gave critical information,.... that there was no collision, that guy is full of adrenaline and all, if tower doesn't want to hear it in the moment, they will tell him
damn bro I remember all of this unfold from my house which was about 30 mins away from the airport. it was scary ngl because you could just look out and see a huge dark plume of smoke. Now that I see the exact things that happened Its kinda surprising abt how big of a deal it actually was.
Great job to controllers. It's one thing just to sequence everyone in and out of a busy airport, it's quite another to scatter and deal with everyone when something like this happens.
Wow, thank God (and the pilots) that the plane did not leave the ground! Who knows what would have happened if it did.... Also, @3:06 to 3:09 seem particularly interesting... do you have a guess as to what the ATC "saw flying through the air" (like a piece of debris from the American flight), because that ever-more proves why they stopped all of the aircraft.
parts of the engine, probably. the incident was caused by the #2 fan disk deconstructing itself violently. a 56.6 lbs disk fragment was found almost 3,000 feet south of the plane.
superb job in handling the emergency, and the video makes it clear what is happening. that must’ve been really scary for the passengers! aircraft failures often carry fatalities so they were lucky here. glad everyone was safe with minor injuries.
on other runways probably. The incident runway would of be closed for some time. The main concern is all the people out on the airfield. Once the fire is out and all passengers/crew are accounted for the rest of the airport can return to operation.
And yet again, some have slowed the evac by getting their carry on luggage - please don't do that when evacuating, it can cost the lives of the last ones trying to get off.
VASAviation - my father is on an American Airbus A321 and he texted me saying Air Force One landed while his plane was waiting for Take off. Rare right?
Emergency situation and I'm stunned the people that think that there luggage is more important than human life. First the luggage has to be removed from the over head and then carried down the isle that could prevent egress of the aircraft.
It always amazes me when I see these things people evacuating the plane and have the presence of mind to take their luggage it's crazy to me. The plane is on fire let me grab my stuff instead of getting the heck off the plane
I just know if I am ever on a packed airline that is burning on the ground there is going to be a bunch of people trying to pull overhead luggage out of the overheads.
Hand luggage, and Alchohol at the airport should be banned . I really dont want some one who is pissed trying to take his bag of duty free off in front of me in an emergency, the set up is dangerous.
Of course I watched the video of THAT GUY who decided to film the evacuation from inside the fuselage.. He kept turning around in the aisle to film the people behind him screaming. I got mad just watching it....should be against the law or something
On the other hand, remember the valuable footage of a Garuda flight that ended in a swamp? Not clear whether having extra footage is that bad. Even there, he decided to evacuate with a large reporter camera! (I'm not advocating for the one or the other side, just sayin)
If he didn't impede the evacuation, then I see no problem in it, sometimes videos help investigators understand what happened. Also it allows them to look at how well evacuation procedures work in an actual emergency when people are panicked
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Can we talk about how immaculate the initial communication was for everything that was happening at once?
"Stopping on the runway"
"Roger, Fire!"
"Do you see fire or smoke?"
"Yes, fire off the right wing"
"Roger send out the trucks"
"Sending them"
Within 10 seconds, everyone knew what they had to do
I agree - they were really fast to communicate effectively and get things done. It was an impressive response.
I mean what did u expect?
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-Roger Fire
-Send out trucks
-No we wont! God dammit u deal with ur fire urself!!
@@johannesjoestar8010 you clearly have zero knowledge of the subject. Different pilots and controllers react differently to emergency situations and this was a perfect example of what to do: short, clear communication in both sides with all relevant information and nothing else.
@@alan_davis sadlife
@@johannesjoestar8010 nobrain
You know something went down when tower yells "EVERYONE STOP; E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E STOP"
Probably listening to the Sounders match and you did not want to miss a penalty kick.
I was almost expecting one of the trucks to ask "us too?" :)
@ Ha! Fire trucks leave skid marks coming to a halt and are afraid to call the tower when someone finally asks "Where the hell are the fire trucks?!" "You told everyone to stop!!" "OH JESUS ... NOT YOU!!! GO MAN!! GO!!!"
"But... but... but... I'm at 2000 feet..."
It makes no sense at all to me that they didn't keep the 27L and 27R open just because they needed to close the 28 runways! Seems senseless to make all of those inbound aircraft divert when those runways on the north side are over a mile away from the emergency.
I'll just have to say it again that your graphics make these situations easier to understand. Thanks!
That's my goal. Thanks very much! :)
Super helpful "make a left turn" plane turns to the right
MegaAnonymoussupport thats for when the plane was airborne
@@MegaAnonymoussupport The Tower ATC told them with this Call...that American 383 was cleared...after the Takeoff... to turn left for Heading 220...
Agreeeeeed!!!!!!!!!!😀
My very favorite line in the NTSB report: "As mentioned in section 1.1, one disk fragment (labeled “A” in figure 5), which
weighed about 56.6 pounds, was recovered on the airport property in a UPS warehouse located
about 2,935 ft south of the airplane’s position on the runway where the uncontained engine failure
occurred.37" ...56 pound projectile launched over half a mile TO THE SOUTH.... which means, coming from the right engine, it arced OVER the fuselage rather than through it. Lucky break there.
Wow.... The forces involved in a turbine engine are crazy.
@@ConnorLinley The main fan blades have close to 50 tons of pull force at T/O power
My carrier had a 737 throw a left main tread fwd into the engine , which protested by spitting fan blade fragments through the fuselage. We found pieces in the baggage compartment, overhead bins and left interior panels. Full flight , not a soul was bothered.
@@ThePetlowany Wow...😱
Lucky... Break... ... ... *Rimshot*
Fantastic job from the pilots, flight attendants, ATC and emergency services.
Thanks for putting all this together VASAviation.
Thanks for your comment, sir! I feel honored! :)
I agree fantastic job..
Let's not forget about the FLIGHT ATTENDANTS. Amazing job getting 161 passengers to safety.
It should be illegal for people to open overhead bins during evacs. Period. In fact, they should auto lock. If someone got in my way trying to retrieve their carry-on, I would go over them. Selfish people think their stuff is worth lives.
The flight attendants actually screwed up in a pretty big way in this particular event. They took it upon themselves to initial an evacuation without waiting for instructions from the cockpit. Doors were opened and slides were blown with engines still running. The aft slides were blowing from the engine jet blast and nearly became separated from the aircraft. Luckily everything worked out, but not an amazing job on their part. This is why they are trained to wait for instructions.
re: Bob,
I'll be sure to cross out the part in my in-flight manual that says I'm allowed to initiate evacuation if I assess immediate danger. -a flight attendant
Be sure to have that page highlighted to explain to a family member why their loved one died from getting sucked into an engine that had not or could not be shut down. Or when you blow an aft slide and see it get ripped from the aircraft and go bye bye from the jet exhaust, be sure to tell yourself, "well my manual says that I'm allowed to since I know exactly what's going on".
(g woah. Holy crappie
"Yeah, and go cleveland"
"Oo, that hurt"
Chicago tower is the one laughing bout that exchange
At that time, the Chicago Cubs were playing the Cleveland Indians in the World Series.
Tom S. Whats the World Series?
@@ianmoseley9910 Major League Baseball championship series.
@@tomsmith5584 Where only US teams participate...
@@xtratic Well, a Canadian team won it twice....
5:36 "Yeah I know there's an aircraft burning down on the runway, but can I get a push?"
I mean, I don't know the gate layout of O'Hare but they might be at a gate where they don't have view of the accident.
@@TheMrVengeance “ stop all aircraft stop”
@Managed Stop what? Radio transmissions? Landing and taking off? Taxiing? All manoeuvres? Doesn't really communicate effectively, does it?
@@TheMrVengeance That’s ground frequency if you didn’t realize…..no plane what’s its the air should be on that
Pilot(s) probably wanted a closer view xD
I liked that you included the ATC communications after the runways were closed, as they proceeded to interact with all of the arrival flights to assess where they could diver to, how much time they have before they have to make the decision to divert (depending on remaining fuel), etc. Once you have a full stop at the airport, which considering that people maybe running /walking in all directions, then the ATC transitions into "juggling mode" ;) to make sure everyone who wanted to land at O'hare gets taken care of.
We really need to applaud the pilots. Perfect abort decision. All survived with little injuries.
Had this gone airborne, the story would have been very different.
Indeed.
did all of the bags survive? or was the hold burned in the fire?
If airborne, they could still have landed safely, there are 8 runways on that airport and the pilots have a mental picture of where to put it down again in case of problems after V1. A slow flying airplane can turn faster than you think. But, if they had too much fuel, it could be risky. They know how to do a 180 turn and from which altitude.
@@thomasdahl3083 yeah yeah but did u see how fast the plane was on fire?? I guess id wouldnt have ended good
Some even managed to get their luggage
The starboard wing melted down completely. The FAA says that a fan disk broke on the takeoff roll. This plane is going to be scrapped at O'Hare. I'm just glad everyone got out relatively okay.
Current thought seems to be shrapnel from the engine failure took out the tire(s).
Interesting viewpoint on the aircraft's final disposition. I think that it may end up refurbished as a cargo plane.
the entire wing was destroyed and there is significant fire damage. it'll be written off and scrapped for parts.
Talk about money up in smoke for a before perfectly good working plane.
The failure was in the second stage high pressure turbine disk, not the fan disk.
2:45 "Everyone, stop". Wow, that is surreal! This ATC guy was great, by the way.
I listen to this guy a lot on ord tower. A pro for sure.
Surreal indeed ... especially at mammoth ORD!
@@FOH3663 stop
Pilots: during an emergency, don't ramble on pointlessly if you have nothing to say. Looking at you, ASQ4114.
He almost screamed: "Look at me! I saw bad things happen! Look at me! I have no idea what happened but I might help you with just saying there was an accident, because you didn't know that already!"
He was trying to be helpful. Hopefully he had to waste hours doing the witness report. Good deeds and all that.
He was trying to report something odd in the middle of an emergency and got rattled. Maybe it was his first emergency. The point is, he saw something and didn't say "If it was important, somebody would be taking care of it." One should not try to be an expert on everything. If it seems odd and possibly a problem, tell somebody who knows for sure. But try to stay calm, okay?
@@akaSlasher Would help if he spoke a lilttle louder and clearer so the tower wouldnt have to ask him twice for 30 seconds of VHF time in the middle of an ongoing emergency
I was thinking the same thing but for AA 2364! ORD GND is a little busy right now why are you asking if your wheels up is still accurate. Then he says he just wanted to know if he should push. Well, hmmm, GND just said everyone STOP and STAY where you are....
People evacuated with their carry-on luggage. Insane. Good way to get killed and to endanger others.
Quit it with your preening. They didn't crash, and replacing work assets isn't easy.
@@MarkMcDaniel there was a case similar to this, where almost half the people on board died after a fire because people were trying to get their luggage. Its very dangerous because it takes up valuble time that you need to evacuate
@@MarkMcDaniel Shut up. It’s proven grabbing luggage and items kills, especially when a fire can take over an aircraft extremely quickly. How would you like to die because someone ahead of you spent ages trying to get their luggage out of the overhead lockers?
Airlines insurance will cover any damages.
The overhead lockers should lock in an emergency so ppl cannot retrieve their luggage.
@@swt2296 In general... golf clap, I like the cut of your jib. Need to pay particular attention to any emergency equipment (rafts, med kits, AEDs, fire extinguishers, etc.) that are in overhead bins though and make sure they are only ever in non-locking bins... also need to factor in -morons- _average people_ struggling to try to open locked bins indefinitely because they get task fixated.
7:30 replying "you too" to a "have a nice flight" is the pilot equivalent of saying "you too" to the waiter when they say "enjoy your meal"
The tower said have a “nice night”
@@rizb506 Yeah, apparently a lot of people don't hear well...or read well.
Nobody’s talking about “Happy birthday!” “You too!”
Phenomenal job by the pilots. I'm old enough to remember when you could monitor the cockpit on your headphones. Whenever I heard the airport was closed due to an emergency it sent chills down my spine.
How often did you fly for that to happen _multiple times?_ 🤨
@@TheMrVengeance I'm retired now. I've flown over 8,000,000 actual air miles to 164 nations, 48 states and 10 Canadian Provinces. I flew so often we moved next to DFW after the last child graduated high school. I'm a sarcastic smartass with humor and loved when one of the pilots or flight attendants would give me grief over the P.A. They would pause and then laugh about "don't give grief to anyone who controls the P.A. in an enclosed metal tube JB."
For sure
@@TheMrVengeance I think you got owned. Don't assume everyone else's life is as sad as yours.
@@alan_davis - What? I asked a question, I got an answer. How am I "owned"?? 🤷🏻♀
Pretty sure the only person with a sad life is you; the person who's whole world apparently revolves around owning and being owned. Sounds pretty pathetic and childish.
7:31 to 7:41 was the best thing I’ve ever heard. Laughed for a while
Yep this was right during the World Series this actually happened the day I went to game 3
It's seriously ATC and piloting at its absolute BEST when it comes to radio exchanges.
The busiest airspaces make the best communicators, those guys both in the cockpits and on the ground are the very best, well done.
6:40 passengers with luggage and life vests inflated. Nice.
Yeah forget your carry on's not worth yours or anyone else's life... Some people.
gotta get that souvenir.
If had been a water landing, life vest inflated inside, dead passenger, there is no way to educate pork
Its not a life jacket. The guy has an orange hoodie and he is hugging another passenger. You can find the full size photo online ...
I could forgive the lifevest though. People act irrationally when they get adrenaline rush from example, plane being on fire. So they go back to instictive stuff and what they heard. They see the lifevest demo, that is what some will do. (though this may have been a hoodie as goncalodvd mentioned)
From one Flight Attendant to these superstars, well done!! Burns me up to see one guy walking away with his carry-on, though. That crap is what slows down the evacuation.
I love how calm the pilot was.
O'Hare ground (and tower for that matter) are super busy frequencies, and so it might feel like a burden for some pilots to do what they need to do and stop on the runway, but you can hear how the controller immediately pivoted from a "let's get everyone out" mindset to a "get this aircraft everything they need" mindset. It is that quick shift that can really save lives, and they did a great job
I mean the controller is literally seeing the plane on fire from his tower, it's not like he is going to continue normal airport operations.
You got to admire both the American pilots coolness dealing with the situation and the efficiency of ATC.
4 sure
From these lines, THANKS very much for the support yesterday.
At this moment, it's not known yet the cause of the rejected takeoff. American Arilines said engine failure (which we represented), and FAA and NTSB reported blown tire, then causing fire.
Special thanks to P3D_Flightdeck for the simulator view and Carter Humphreys for his transcriptions. You guys cannot imagine how much time we spent yesterday working and editing this video.
Give it a BIG LIKE as you guys always do!!! =D
A lot of time to say the least.
VASAviation - great job, i was looking forward to seeing this.
according to what ASQ4114 saw I would suspect a tire blown with debris hitting the engine
this...could have been really nasty...if he had v1...and it happend...oh boy...really lucky all on board
+Michael Caplan I live near the airport; aircraft are on final over my neighborhood. The first sign of trouble for us were the two unmarked helicopters that parked in airspace directly overhead. You'd think there was an escaped fugitive on the loose.
It was all they could do to film and feed their hysterical news reports. And they didn't leave, either. Helicopters were buzzing around all evening with nothing to see. Ridiculous. The airport had long gone back to work; clearly some people had nothing better to do but milk as much drama out of an incident as they could.
Lol that ASQ4114 be like, "hey tower, I have some info for you... his engine caught on fire, but I don't know anything else." Why would he bother the ATC and tie him up? Clearly he's a bit busy at the moment.
Sorry, but the guy was clogging up the frequency and controller needlessly.
This is edited so that the silent parts are removed so it's likely he was not clogging up the frequency. It just seems like it from this edited clip.
tigersfan14 No, the audio is not edited - it is in real time. ASQ4114's needless pedestrian comment blocked an active frequency during an emergency situation.
Air Wisconsin guy is a moron. Wasted everyones time during an emergency. it's obvious he was on fire, what could he provide that would be useful at that moment? FAA should take action on his licenses for stupidity.
That's not Air Wisconsin. It's Expressjet.
Picture at the end is brilliant!
Cause of fire was the high pressure side of the number 2 exploded sending parts 3000 feet away from the aircraft and into some buildings. Debris caused a fuel pool fire under the wing, causing it to sag down.
DLDHistory NTSB social media account. They released the cause yesterday. Why it happened is now the question
The UPS building on the grounds got hit with shrapnel from the #2 engine.
Holy cow! This was a lot more serious than this video led me to believe. It's a bit of a miracle everyone survived. www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-american-airlines-fire-ohare-ntsb-report-20180130-story.html
@@joesterling4299 Crappy newspaper blocking EU visitors from reading it...
@@Xanthopteryx VPN Opera web browser has one you can activate to view pages blocked by isp
Wow, this is cool under pressure to the max!! Great job on the video, all of you. RTOs don't always have a definitive answer, but the pilots did a great job and ATC did a great job in taking it in stride.
Great video, and awesome details... I can't comprehend the level of stupidity certain individuals have to retrieve their large carry-on bags during a evacuation??
It never fails that while ATC is dealing with a life-or-death emergency, some pilot asks how long the delay is going to be. Can't blame them. If I were sitting in a delayed plane, I'd want to know too, but it just sounds a bit insensitive.
the ones asking ho long the delay is here were from my understanding currently in the air and they cannt stay there forever. The have to decide wheter to divert or not, and the earlier the better (before they run into a low fuel situation) - and the most important factor for that is the time. So it may sound insensitive, but the question is entirely justified because of the safety of their own Plane.
They would also be on a different frequency
I'm guessing that they don't know exactly what kind of emergency they are dealing with
Aircraft that can't land are diverted, not delayed. Delays occur on the ground. Putting planes into holding patterns is, I guess, delaying them in some sense, but if they're in the pattern, their going to land shortly. The pilots asking how long were in planes waiting to either leave their gates or start their takeoff procedures. And it's not at all about being insensitive, it's about the incredibly high cost of delays. A delay at one airport means missed connections at another which means compensation and the logistical cost of another flight which has to be loaded, fueled, catered, and serviced. I used to work in flight catering, loaded all the grub and booze etc onto the planes. If one of us caused a plane to delay its pushback from the gate by more than 3 minutes, we got a written warning. A second delay was a suspension. A third and you were fired. lol... You would puke if you knew what airlines pay for the support they need on the ground. Airplanes on the ground *cost* money, they don't make it. That's why they were asking how long.
MrDamien15, this channel combines the traffic from various frequencies. So video had the tower frequency, ground control, emergency frequency, and the approach frequency all combined into one. The video's text shows which frequency it is that is talking, e.g. ORD GND and CHICAGO APPROACH.
Really astonishing how many people are carrying their bags and even carry-ons...!
Like the war photo with the pilots standing in front of their melted plane. The old guy probably hasnt been in anything like that since Vietnam
No big deal for them.
WWII flight crews were being shot at on bombing runs, etc . Their entire missions were stressful
airline pilots are force-retired at 60. No one flying commercial aircraft today was in vietnam (or 3 years ago)
@@thedamnyankee1 could be the many other wars since then...
Christopher Schroeder You’re about a decade + behind the times. Airline pilot mandatory retirement in the USA changed to age 65 in 2007.
Excellent, high quality and quick turnaround for a big job. I like the birds eye parts of the flight sim frame, less so the cockpit view.
ATC: “We have an emergency situation Everyone STOP‼️”
Pilot: “So do you have a new departure time for us?”
It’s all about the 💰💰💰 isn’t it...
Most pilots only get paid for time in the air. So sitting at an airport for hours on end means they don't get paid.
@@ShuskiCross Not for their time on duty anymore? WoW! I guess we can thank SouthWest & Ryanair for that business model. Times have changed since my day...
*time spent in the plane while the doors are closed. They got paid.
@@ShuskiCross they get paid from door close, not air
@@Delta2D2 Not really; they have a slot booked at their destination airport, so not only would they need to worry about passenger delays, but also charges by the destination airport. On top of that the longer they are idling (assuming they aren't still plugged into the airport's power systems), the less fuel they have, and the more likely they need to delay/cancel the flight because they'll lack sufficient fuel for diversion, which is a legal and safety requirement.
8:44 - me when i haven't been paying attention on a Zoom meeting
Wow! Great posting. Thanks for getting both the ground and approach communications.
I don't know what my life would be like without this.
Amazing coordination and response from everyone involved! Of course, O'Hare is a major airport (6th-busiest in the world!), so for them to shut everyone down, is a pretty major ordeal!
I actually used to work with the woman who is now the Assistant Commissioner for Emergency Management at O'Hare & Midway, although this incident happened while she was still Director of Emergency Management at my employer.
whoever is the atc guy, you need an award
This approach controller is amazingly competent and professional. Great job all around
This is a fascinating channel! Consummate skills shown by all those involved in every video. Top stuff.
True journalism. You're doing a great job. Thank you.
Thanks James! :)
the meaning of the "Go Cleveland" comment at 7:31 in case anyone was wondering, 5 hours after this event and 13 miles east, the Chicago Cubs hosted the Cleveland Indians at Wrigley Field for Game 3 of the 2016 World Series. Cleveland won that game 1-0, but the Cubs went on to win the Series in Game 7, breaking the 108 year curse since they last won the World Series. The Cubs being in the World Series again was a huge deal and everybody in the city knew about it, even non-sports fans. Cheeky pilot knew he would get a reaction :)
Wtg ... great response time.
Your all heros. Even the planes waiting and being understanding and not putting any pressure on the airport to make your own landing. Nobody made a selfish move here at all. Wow.
At 5:54 you can see passengers with luggage. The rest of the pax should slap the crap out of them.
" the need for research on the effects of evacuating with carry-on baggage" this line was in the NTSB accident report -.-
"But this was a real fire! I'm not going to leave my stuff to burn!"
The height from the door to the ground, or down the chute... can seriously injure or kill someone... it's stupid... let the stuff burn... always take it with the realization that you might not come back with it.
NTSB report suggested fining passengers who take luggage when being commanded to leave it.
Ah, and the president of AFA-CWA, a flight attendants union, told the Sun Tmes “Apparently the threat of death by incineration fueled by thousands of gallons of jet fuel isn’t enough of a deterrent to stop passengers from taking time to grab carry-on bags during an emergency evacuation. The FAA should use existing laws to crack down on passengers endangering themselves and countless others as they put computers, cosmetics and clothing ahead of human life.” Some of these people actually pulled bags out of f/a hands.
7:30 "Have a nice flight!" "You too." Oof the pilot's gotta be so embarrassed
He clearly said "Have a nice NIGHT" - even the subtitles confirm that.
Give that controller an award!!!? Great job handling all of that. Absolutely superb
Great pilot skills by the American pilots. The best in the industry, along with United ,Delta and Southwest....
Not just kudos to the pilots, but the whole flight crew for getting everyone out safely. Looks like that aircraft is no more.
wow these are put together so well, great job
Many hours behind... Thanks very much! :)
Great job team.
I am happy that there were no injuries and everyone was fine.
Love the new animation and extra videos. illustrates everything so clearly! awesome video!
Been following your vids for a while now, they keep getting better. Good job!
Thanks Devin! :)
Any passenger who wants to take his carry-on with him on evacuation are asked to please remain seated until everyone with common sense had evacuated....an elbow in the throat usually discourages most from stopping in front of me. Pilots did a great job but I am thinking a little more time and that runway their left behind them when they started their roll could have been beneficial. It is also important to know the wind and where the fire is....there have been fires on aborted takeoffs where the pilot turned off the runway and put the fire upwind of the main cabin and the flames were then blown into the cabin, melting the cabin, and forcing many passengers to be trapped by fire. Blocking the runway is always an option when you have a fire...get that fire downwind so it blows away from the aircraft cabin.
Stopping on the runway in this instance with the wind at 220 kept the flames blowing away from the cabin. Good job.
I know it's not really relevant, but I couldn't help hearing
"YOU GOT A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT WING!" in my head XD
this is the channel to send to anyone scared of flying, crashes are so rare because pilots and atc are amazing. Also VAS you are amazing and your channel is great
Great pic of the pilots!
Great video as always! By the way I hate those people taking their luggage out of the plane when it is evacuated.
Huge difference in the level of competency and professionalism of these controllers versus the one at LGA for the Eastern/Pence 737 overrun incident.
The graphics are so helpful! Great job!
+VASAviation Thanks for posting a video of this event so quickly!
Hi VAS team.
I've listened to this clip 3 times now. each time it's still exciting. I love to listen to your efforts. excellent posts.
Hello,
I'm glad you enjoy the videos and maybe you learn something new about this amazing little world of aviation. =)
VASAviation - actually have been involved in aviation for 40 years as an enthusiast. Have got 6 hours dual time in a C172, and yes I still do learn how to communicate on the radio by listening. and still enjoy Steve Abraham the most
Very good job Guys! Ifly B767 300 too.. good job.. few injured.. to many questions from some pilot at the beginning of the Emergency from other Aircraft .. the ATC was fantastic.
VASAviation, thank you for all of your efforts. Fascinating to hear the behind the scenes.
Thanks, sir. My pleasure! :)
Great channel, great videos. thank you for sharing!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching! :)
wow i wonder how close they were to V1 before deciding to stop.
a death sentence if they were beyond V1.
he had exactly v1 "At that time, the airplane’s airspeed was 134 knots, which was also the calculated takeoff decision speed (V1). The auto speedbrakes activated about 2 seconds after the autobrakes.8 In a postaccident statement, the captain indicated that he rejected the takeoff because he thought that the airplane was “unable/unsafe to fly.” " ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR1801.pdf
@@sddndsiduae4b-688 Those parts flew a looooong loooong way!
Wow, great decision. Hero.
@@mergg3365 yeah abortion after V1 and overshooting the runway is still better than airborne with no wing and an active fire
Can I say, not just a great job to the pilots, ATC and firies who responded, performing an absolutely wonderful job, but to every pilot, ATC and Firie who responded to similar incidences in the past who did not live to pass on their lessons, who had to rely on the the system to teach their lessons to the next generation. Your sacrifice was not in vain. Rest peacefully knowing we have learned from your sacrifice and saved more lives thanks to you.
Damn, you work fast. This happened right when I just came home from school, just 13miles east of me
The dude jammed up the frequency to tell tower exactly what tower just witnessed. No useful information at all. Uhh we saw some sparks.
no, he gave critical information,.... that there was no collision, that guy is full of adrenaline and all, if tower doesn't want to hear it in the moment, they will tell him
ATC + P3D + Real footage.
Wow!
7:32 Ooh, that burns. 😂😂
Thank you VASAviation, outstanding job.
I saw the new and I was waiting for you to upload the ATC radio. Thanks
Here you go! :)
damn bro I remember all of this unfold from my house which was about 30 mins away from the airport. it was scary ngl because you could just look out and see a huge dark plume of smoke. Now that I see the exact things that happened Its kinda surprising abt how big of a deal it actually was.
Great job to controllers. It's one thing just to sequence everyone in and out of a busy airport, it's quite another to scatter and deal with everyone when something like this happens.
Hi, wonderful videos for ARFF training. Airports firefighters and pilots love this...
mike
Wow, thank God (and the pilots) that the plane did not leave the ground! Who knows what would have happened if it did....
Also, @3:06 to 3:09 seem particularly interesting... do you have a guess as to what the ATC "saw flying through the air" (like a piece of debris from the American flight), because that ever-more proves why they stopped all of the aircraft.
parts of the engine, probably. the incident was caused by the #2 fan disk deconstructing itself violently. a 56.6 lbs disk fragment was found almost 3,000 feet south of the plane.
Vasaviation you always perfect, thank you!
Muito obrigado!! :D
Love how in the live video you can see a few people got their suitcases and start walking casually away from the plane.
Awesome job! Your videos tell whole stories. Love it.
Thanks Pamela! :)
"go Cleveland" "hoo that hurt" lol
Perfect handling of this situation. US pilots are the best. Good job pilots and tower.
superb job in handling the emergency, and the video makes it clear what is happening.
that must’ve been really scary for the passengers!
aircraft failures often carry fatalities so they were lucky here.
glad everyone was safe with minor injuries.
than you acey pilot - your information was so damn important.....
So how long did it actually take before they started landing planes again? Did the 5-10 minute estimate hold up?
on other runways probably. The incident runway would of be closed for some time. The main concern is all the people out on the airfield. Once the fire is out and all passengers/crew are accounted for the rest of the airport can return to operation.
28R was closed for the rest of the day and into the next. I took off from 28C the following day with the 767 still sitting on 28R. Quite the sight!
And yet again, some have slowed the evac by getting their carry on luggage - please don't do that when evacuating, it can cost the lives of the last ones trying to get off.
One of the best channels on RUclips! Appreciate all the hard work, keep it up !!
Thanks very much, David! Glad you enjoy it! :)
VASAviation - my father is on an American Airbus A321 and he texted me saying Air Force One landed while his plane was waiting for Take off. Rare right?
Lol I love the bantering on the approach frequency past 7:30 😂
Emergency situation and I'm stunned the people that think that there luggage is more important than human life. First the luggage has to be removed from the over head and then carried down the isle that could prevent egress of the aircraft.
Yeah but.... what if they needed a change of clothes?
@@FoxtrotOscar2011 The probably need clean underwear.
@@akaSlasher haha true! 😅
It always amazes me when I see these things people evacuating the plane and have the presence of mind to take their luggage it's crazy to me. The plane is on fire let me grab my stuff instead of getting the heck off the plane
@ There is a little more involved than that. You are about to go down a giant slide where your stuff may cause problems.
amazing job you are doing thanks for all
These videos keep getting better. Thank you!
And this was done years ago
6:42 The most important thing when your plane is on fire: grab your hand luggage
I just know if I am ever on a packed airline that is burning on the ground there is going to be a bunch of people trying to pull overhead luggage out of the overheads.
Don't judge, maybe he had a fire extinguisher in there. 😏
Being an ATC is not an easy job .... every video you let us watch is a proof of that statement :)
Awesome 👌
when i thought you couldn't top yourself, you've put an FSX overall on the video. oustanding work mate
Good job. Very well done and informative.
Hand luggage, and Alchohol at the airport should be banned . I really dont want some one who is pissed trying to take his bag of duty free off in front of me in an emergency, the set up is dangerous.
TR6Telos totally agree cheers
So if I had a small bag with my MEDICATION, you'd be pissed? Abelism, bish.
Of course I watched the video of THAT GUY who decided to film the evacuation from inside the fuselage.. He kept turning around in the aisle to film the people behind him screaming. I got mad just watching it....should be against the law or something
what if himself or his followers died?
It is illegal.
On the other hand, remember the valuable footage of a Garuda flight that ended in a swamp? Not clear whether having extra footage is that bad. Even there, he decided to evacuate with a large reporter camera! (I'm not advocating for the one or the other side, just sayin)
If he didn't impede the evacuation, then I see no problem in it, sometimes videos help investigators understand what happened. Also it allows them to look at how well evacuation procedures work in an actual emergency when people are panicked
fantastic job on editing this all together!!
Thanks, Ben! :)
These people are *VERY GOOD* at what they do, *ALL OF THEM* they have our lives in their hands, they should be paid better than they are.
all except the customers who grabbed their bags. death can come quickly if there is a jam at a door.