BOTH engines GONE | British Airways CRASH in London
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On January 17th, 2008, a mysterious failure caused a British Airways Boeing 777 to come crashing down just short of London’s Heathrow airport. This was the first full loss of a 777 aircraft, which had been operating without serious issue since 1995.
In a strange twist, the culprit in this accident seemed to vanish after the crash, leaving investigators puzzled. Speculation was rife after the accident, with some saying that a software glitch may have downed the aircraft, or that there may have been radio interference from the prime minister’s motorcade which was passing nearby at the time. In the end, they found that the cause was both far simpler, and far more pernicious.
The story of this flight shows how a collection of circumstances which on their own are harmless, can combine to cause an accident. This is also a story of how experience, and quick-thinking, can be the difference between life and death.
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Green Dot Aviation, thanks for the video. I hope you don't mind but two weeks ago the ATC of BA38 was on a podcast. RUclips link ruclips.net/video/aYU9OpdbAJg/видео.html. Very interesting to listen to.
@greendot I’m trying too work out is that accent Are you Irish?😁
@@adambanks8249 Thanks for this, will have a listen!
@@JonathanT449 I am indeed 🇮🇪
@@GreenDotAviation when are you doing a video on the view of what you think what happened MH370?
The fact that they weren't able to glide any farther after hours in the sim is incredible. It means the flight crew on the actual flight did everything perfect without notice and in the moment. Bravo.
Yes, that decision to set the flaps at 25 likely saved many lives, not to mention the first officer keeping the plane from stalling.
@Mohamed Jabir The plane may have stalled if the flaps were set to less than 25. That would have led to a significant loss of life, as the plane was still a few hundred feet in the air at that point.
However, you have to take into account that it takes the flaps some time to move, so if they were set to, say, 15, the plane may well have been on the ground by the time the flaps got there.
Simulations of the accident showed, in any case, that the captain's decision to set the flaps to 25 was the optimal one.
@Mohamed Jabir I seem to remember in an interview the Captain said he knew the stall speeds of each of the particular flap settings, and the difference in stall speed between 30 and 25 was minimal, but the difference in stall speed between 30 and 20 is quite large hence his decision. Pretty quick thinking and a testament to his training!
@@GreenDotAviation Retired pilot here. I spent 10 years on the 777 and was going through initial training when this accident happened. The crew did a phenomenal job and my congratulations on their quick actions in this emergency. My comments are no reflection or criticism on what they did. We went into the simulator the next day and recreated the accident. Had the captain raised the flaps to 15 degrees and they had pointed the nose down to gain speed and then rode ground effect they could have just made it to the runway. Now we knew what was going to happen and we knew exactly what to do and when to do it which gave us an unfair advantage over the BA crew. Which is why this is no criticism of them. Once again they did an outstanding job. If I met these two crew members at a pub I would buy them beer until closing time.
@@pixurguy4915 Rememberimg no pilot has ever trained for such event. At least you're more relaxed in the simulator because it's not real life. Pointing the nose down would never even cross your mind in tne real life event even if you wanted too, because of how low they were and the subconcious mind, seeing real ground and people below them. No time for trial and error
I love how the captain made the decision to trust the skills of the first officer to let him continue flying the plane, so that the captain can be in charge of making critical decisions without any distractions. For example the decision he made to set the flap at 25 which eventually led to being the main reason for saving everyone on board, was the most optimal thing he could've done. Even future flight simulations couldn't make a better landing. Hats off to the crew for their skills, and calm and quick thinking in the very short limited time they had.
It’s excellent CRM training.
it is what we are supposed to do. Captain is to manage the situation...
@@daftvader4218 eh?
Yea and that's why I'm confused as to why he referred to the co pilot as a coward at 5:48
@@ericg4915 The Co-Pilot's name is John Coward.
Damn, the guy who broke his leg is both super lucky and unlucky. Imagine, everyone else got by without injury, but you took a landing gear to the knee. You dodged a bullet, but the planes wheels got you.
The drag difference between flaps 30 and 25 is huge. You'd think that changing the flaps so close to the ground would make no difference but it clearly saved the plane from a complete tragedy. The fact the captain let the FO fly and changed the flaps is amazing. A true hero.
Absolutely. If you're interested, here's an interview with the Captain where he describes his thought process during the incident: www.avweb.com/multimedia/podcast/the-crash-of-ba038/
Why not go to 20 or even 15 ? Why not lift the gear up for a few minutes ?
Reselecting flaps 30 in the flare.
@@millomweb Very good question about the FLAPS. About the gear, Boeing wouldn't recommend because it increases drag when the doors open.
@@ederss7 I believe 15° flaps is where flaps are the most efficient at providing additional lift. Reductions from 25 to 20 and or possibly 15 would depend on airspeed.
There should be a table for gear doors. Advising on drag for the gear, drag for the doors, flight time left - and compare overall drag for gear only against a period of time with gear stowed + 2 lots of doors drag (one for gear up , the other for gear down (again)) to see which overall gives the lesser drag.
Other than that, it's throw a few pax out to reduce weight ;) Would be unfair on the neighbours to dump fuel at that altitude - and difficult if it'd solidified !
@@millomweb because flaps increase lift at slow speeds. Flaps 20 or 15 would have caused an immediate stall. Remember the aircraft was barely flying at 110kts when all hell broke loose
I love when the pilots come out vindicated. My father was an airline captain for 38 years, we discuss many of these incidents which he often has first hand knowledge of from being in the industry at the time and I gotta say that you're usually spot on. For reference, dad flew the DC10, 727, 737, 757 and the A320 at the end of his career, and I'm a truck driver, because I'm terrified of flying, haha.
You know the statistic about flying vs driving.
@@hellobirdie0617 People have fears, there is no need to try to change everyone. Like most people know nuclear power plants are safer then most other power plants but still refuse to allow them to be built, its just the world we live in.
@@hellobirdie0617 yeah but if you crash your truck you’ll probably survive, plane? Very unlikely
@@YoungSoprano90 Most people don't seem to understand that fact.
The error of your observation lies in the likelyhood of a crash.
One truck crash, high chance of survival, yes. But every few crashes, the driver or innocent bystanders will die and the probability of a truck crashing is nearly infinitely more likely to happen vs a plane crash.
If you were to go to a highway truck stop and talked to a bunch of truck drivers, one or more will surely tell you a story of an acquaintance that crashed and killed him/herself and quite possibly someone else.
Now go to 100 aviation crewrooms and ask around if anyone knew someone that has been in a fatal crash. Hell, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who's been or know someone who's been in any aviation crash, whatsoever if you disregard the ex-military folks that surely will have a war story to rattle of.
Civillian aviation is the SAFEST mode of transportation.
And that's not subjective, it's not an opinion, it's just probability maths.
And the interesting thing about relatively simple probability maths is that it's not up for debate like quantum theorem, etc.
2+2=4, it's 4 in France and it's 4 in Mars, it was 4 in 2.000.000 BC and it will be 4 tomorrow. It is 4 whether you agree or not and making a remark suggesting driving trucks is safer than being inside a plane is like shouting from a rooftop that 2+2=banana casserole.
Excellent quick thinking by the captain! It's great to hear that everyone survived this one.
"Excellent quick thinking by the captain" ????
Or is it the case that investigators were unable
to pin the accident on "human error" as they Usually try to do ???
If there was ANY Way that this could've been blamed on the crew,
rest assured that's the way it would have gone, as Usual !!!
@@JosephKulik2016 couldn't agree more
I work on intensive care. I regularly deal with life or death situations. But I cannot even contemplate the level of experience, ability, mental agility and sheer brilliance of the pilots in this situation. This is absolutely incredible and it leaves me in awe. Utter heroes
@@daftvader4218 ?
@@daftvader4218 no. The first thing to do is nothing. Have a look at what’s going on first.
@@daftvader4218 Tell me exactly what they could FEEL on a full FBW aircraft. The air resistance against the control surfaces? Nope. Unlike every other Boeing of the time there was no mechanical linkage between the yoke and the flight controls.
Yup. I know all my dad's stories from er and how crazy situations could get among all the docs ... But in comparison, pilots at work is an unimaginable level of responsibility and pressure!
A&E PHRN here, and I fly the wife’s SR-22. The pressure of your life also being at risk is the key difference
Thanks for the really interesting video Green Dot Aviation!
You'll notice 2 mistakes made over the ATC by Captain Burkill.
1) He uses the wrong callsign in his MAYDAY call. Speedbird 95 is the callsign used when pilots are practicing emergencies in the simulator at BA.
2) He transmits the evacuation command over ATC instead of the cabin PA. However this is also considered a wise move because ATC and fire rescue are now aware that the aircraft is being evacuated so there will be passengers on the runway.
I had the pleasure of reading Captain Burkill's book on this whole accident and the effects it had on his life, particularly how he was mistreated at BA afterwards with lots of rumours being told about how he froze at the controls. In fact his decision to keep Senior First Office John Coward to fly the aircraft whilst he troubleshooted and then retracted 1 stage of flaps is what saved this aircraft from crashing short of the airport and potentially killing all onboard plus people on the ground.
Apart from an onboard fire, losing thrust at low altitude during takeoff or landing is the worst situation. You are slow with lots of drag (flaps and gear down) and especially at Heathrow you are flying over a large metropolitan city.
The funny story is that nearly one year later, we withessed US Airways 1549 in the Hudson. Captain Sully, FO Jeff Skiles and their crew were treated like heros in the USA (and rightly so) and this was especially encouraged by US Airways. They had their full support.
This should have been the case for the BA crew, but BA didn't give them the support and the UK media tried to turn them from heros to villains over night. Captain Burkill did a news conference shortly after the accident and announced that his senior first officer was pilot flying. The UK media was confused by this (as they are by most aviation stories) and tried to create a narrative that Captain Burkill did nothing and it was all down to his senior first officer.
Just to clear up my point on the wrong callsign. This had no negative effect on the outcome because ATC knew immediately a BA aircraft was in distress just by hearing the MAYDAY call. And after all we are all human so if the wrong callsign is the only mistake made by the crew, then that shows what a great job they did.
I believe Captain Burkill is still at BA and his senior first officer John Coward is now a captain. Captain Burkill left BA shortly after the accident (he took redundancy) and tried to apply for a job at Emirates but was rejected due to having a crash on his record. He was able to rejoin BA a few years later.
There was also a relief pilot on the flight (First Officer Conor Magenis) but I am not sure what he is up to these days.
Thanks for this background! Really interesting, and it’s such a shame the Burkill was so poorly treated by BA after basically saving the aircraft and passengers.
The ATC in the tower saw the pitch change and as soon as the word mayday was said, the controller pressed the crash alarm to call the fire fighters.
Given the literal seconds he had to react, I think he can be forgiven his minor errors over the RT.
He followed rule number 1 " Aviate first". Navigate is second and communicate is last. Even if he didn't make a call at all before impact, always fly the plane first. The ATC would have known in an instant when they saw a crunched up plane laying on the threshold.
thank you for the update on the Cpt, I do hope he did rejoin BA (that isnt in his book), so he hot his redundency from shitty BA and then rejoined them, excellent. Hope he rejoined at same or higher pay level, and the training dept got their arses kicked for allowing those rumours (from the tutors) to run wild.
Bet no-one lost their jobs for the crap they caused the Cpt, at whatever level.
I'm glad I found this channel. Even if the same accidents and incidents are featured in nearly all air crash investigation channels, each episode maker puts in different little details that make a more complete picture of what happened.
It also keeps me from dying of boredom after I've binge watched "Mayday" for the umpteenth time!
Your attention to detail in the preparation of these videos is just outstanding ...
I love this channel. It has all the best parts of the longer airplane crash tv shows, but none of the boring dragged-out story. He always focuses on the important parts. I hope more are coming! I think I’ve watched them all by now 😂
Goodness, these adventures are so well done that I’m watching one after another; I’ll end up watching all of your episodes soon! You are a great storyteller. It’s a good thing that a human was in charge of the plane!!
Thank you! Glad you’re enjoying them, many more on the way ✈️
I do the same, and i'm not usually interested in technical stuff. So my learning curve is very steep, although it's kind of macabre.
if i was the first officer i would feel very proud if i was told that the captain had full faith in my abilities to fly the plane during an unknown error while he focused on making other adjustments. to me that speaks volumes about the respect for each other that was being displayed during that time. its also a perfect example of crew resource management and situational awareness.
@@daftvader4218 That's not true at all though, did you even watch the video?
@@pr0saic692 meh, he's been spamming this same comment under almost every thread here. I think he's just mad.
What an amazing crew, their incredibly skillful piloting ended up saving the lives of so many.
One of your videos was recommended by the RUclips algorithm, and now I've seen at least 6 of your episodes. I'm hooked. I don't know much about aviation at all, but your narrating style has me totally drawn into these stories. Thank you for making your videos accessible and easy to understand for non-aviators!
It's amazing that everyone survived!
Can I just marvel at the pilot's quick thinking, and the manner in which the Air Traffic Controllers handled the situation. I'd have been screeching in an indiscernible girly voice, 'Crash! Holy God! Crash!' They said exactly what needed saying without a single word to waste in the calmest professional manner. This is what saved everyone on this plane, I hope everyone had a rise in salary after this. Bravo Gentlemen! Bravo!
BA basically sacked the pilot cause of how bad they treated him
First time to hear a Captain made a conscious decision to leave his copilot on the handle at such moment, amazing!
The success was due to pilots who have had many hours of hands on flying experience. Everything is so automated these days many younger pilots freeze up in these circumstances. Excellent job by the crew! Thanks for a great video!
Exactly. Like what happened in Air France flight 447.
By the time the copilot disconnected the autopilot at 200 feet AGL, the aircraft was in a stalled condition. So much "hands on flying experience." Incidentally I am a big advocate of airline pilots keeping up their manual flying skills. When the occasion was right I encouraged the copilots to manually fly 707s, DC 10s and 747s up to and down from 10,000ft.
Strange how i’ve seen this on National Geographic last night and now it’s on my RUclips recommendations.
The pilots on this flight are heroes 😍
As were the engineers who created such a robust aircraft. To slam into the ground, even at a low speed, and the majority of people are able to walk off is amazing.
As were the wives and children of the engineers who loved them
IIRC the redesign of the fuel-oil heat exchanger involved changing the flat face of tubes (as shown at 15:16) into a bunch of tubes of random lengths so that tubes would poke through any potential ice buildup, preventing large clumps of ice from forming.
That’s quite a clever solution!
It was the opposite. The irregular length tubes held the ice above where the heat from the exchanger tubes could melt it. Going to the flat face surface gets the ice close enough to melt. Mind you this is all millimeters of distance.
Now if "Air Crash Investigation/Mayday" got it backasswards, shame on them for lack of attention to details.
@@BigBlueJake The cuts I've seen have had it the right way around, at least. For all its faults, the show was usually very thorough and clear.
This video provides a great explanation of this accident. Thank you for your stellar work!!
A lesson in perfect calm in a highly stressful situation by both ATC and the flight crew.
and then there was the whispering campaign by BA staff and crew that said the captain froze leaving the first office to deal with the issues - such rumours eventually forced the captain to leave the company - then the shocking way the company forced the crew involved in the accident to appear in-front of the media cameras
The crew weren’t forced to do anything.
You’re right about the whispering campaign amongst the cabin crew. Fortunately, Pete asked to rejoin and was happily reinstated and flies with them to this day.
Willie Walsh paraded the flight crew and CSD out n front of the cameras. They looked very uncomfortable, especially the CSD.
@@daftvader4218 why would his inability to get a job with one particular airline, with a moronic recruitment policy, affect BA’s decision? They just thought it was the right thing to do.
@@daftvader4218 not fact at all. Emirates didn’t employ him because if an idiotic policy. Most others would have.
I genuinly hold that belief that British airways pilots are the best pilots in the world
Loving all your videos! So well made and excellent graphics. My new fave Aviation Channel 💕🔥
Both engines gone? BOTH? That’s insane, Jeremy
Feel like this would be better suited to BA009. Four engines, Jeremy? Four? That’s insane!
Captain Corrigan is flying without a license!
Think this is the first time I’ve heard the ATC after the events of BA38. Even the quality of your coverages of the details were as great as it is now, love it!
Excellent channel. Crisp, excellent detail, focused.
Hello,I would like to commend you on your excellent videos on civil aviation incidents.
I'm a retired British Airways cabin crew member (purser) having spent most of my 24 years on the 747 (100/200/400).
I also flew on many other aircraft types including the 777,dc10,tristar & a few others.
I've often tried to pick the pilots' brains on the numerous flights when I was lucky enough to sit in the flight deck for take off & landing.
Your videos are a superb learning tool on the many aspects of flying.You're quite clearly a very well informed pilot trainer.
Thank you,
Georges
Hi George, thank you very much for the kind words :) Out of curiosity, what was your favourite aircraft to work on?
Exquisite graphics, your attention to detail is just brilliant. I'm obsessed with your channel but have to literally go for a lie down after watching a video as I'm just so emotionally and physically invested.
Here's a channel I never knew I needed in my life. Thank you algorithm
This is exactly why pilots and in particular captains are paid big bucks!! Without that vital flap selection by the captain that aircraft would have wiped out Hatton cross train station and killed many!!! Well done Captain Burkhill and his team!!! 👍. The crew would of probably disagreed but they are heroes for sure. Certainly earned their big bucks on that day!!.
Really been enjoying your excellent videos! Just a small correction on this one: at 8:47 the Controller is on a conference call using the 'Crash' line aka the Batphone. This is picked up by all the other relevant agencies around the airport i.e. AFS, Police, Airfield Operations etc. What he is actually saying is 'Nature of problem' which is standard terminology.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the beautiful and realistic graphics? Love this channel.
Thank you!
Very concise delivery of the facts.
Important lessons learned without the cost of any lives.
Many animated air crash investigation vids are boring but I love Green Dot.
Much appreciated!
Beautifully put together video and factually sound too. I’ve subbed. 👍👍
Brilliant video, thank you!
For once RUclips recommended me a great channel. Excellent work 👍🏻
Welcome! Glad you’re enjoying the vids 😎
I remember this from the news. Very interesting explanation. Subscribed.
I hadn't been aware of this crash before but always great to see exemplary flying and quick thinking from the captain and first officer in such a sudden and serious situation. It was interesting to hear the ATC calls after the crash too. Thanks for the well put together videos mate.
You’re welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.
Great work by the Pilots but also great work by the crew evacuating all the passengers so quickly. Cabin crew often don't get the praise they deserve or the support from the big bosses after such an accident. Which happened with many of the crew from this flight who were treated appallingly
An excellent detailed account of what happened to cause this rare accident.. Thankyou
Glad you enjoyed it 😎
I was there on that day working at Heathrow.
I like the way you explain the causes of the accident instead of creating a drama made for TV like another Air accident show, your point of view is from a pilot's view. I really like how you explain the causes of the accident.
I saw (I wish I could remember where) an hour long documentary about this incident. One of the most interesting parts was the detective story that finally led to the explanation of the fuel ice effect. The engineers setup a laboratory with all the fuel system apparatus, refrigerators, and all kinds of equipment to investigate different hypothesis scenarios. Eventually, they found the right combination of circumstances and timings to reproduce the fuel blockage effect in the laboratory. It was Columbo/Apollo 13 level drama and technical virtuosity.
Sounds like that may have been the Mayday/Air Crash Investigation episode on this accident.
The Sully of UK! No lives lost due to Cap's experience.
FO was flying.
@@EinkOLED The safe landing was due to the actions of the entire crew, not just the FO.
@@LunaticTheCat cabin crew 👁️👄👁️
@@K1OIK Captain Chesley Sullenberger
Keep ‘em coming
This content is always unbelievable. Great job!
Much appreciated!
Brilliantly produced video. One correction on the real audio - you’ve made the same error as the guy who captioned the original video. The ATCO does not say “medical problem”, he says “nature of problem”.
If you listen closely the controller probably does not say “medical problem is crash” but rather “nature of problem is crash”
I heard that the captain after this had a terrible time - lawsuits tried against him and wife & family left. I really, really hope none of that is true and that he lives the true life of a hero in retirement
This just shows that decent quality training at decent quality airlines arm the aircrews with a cool, calm and collected reaction to adversity and emergencies.
Best flight crash analysis channel on RUclips
Thanks! ✈️✈️
Experience is a great teacher! The crew did not panic but thought the situation through and saved the crew and passengers. Whew...I was sweating awaiting the outcome.
Nice piece of stat work on the investigators part - and a hell of a nice piece of flying on the pilots part
How you only got 67,000 subscribers is beyond me :-)
The luckiest unlucky person who got their leg broken by the landing gear
13:00 I'm just as interested in those three on the lower left. Something tells me they're not quite right also 😅
The shots of the simulation look beautiful
I applaud the crew. Only I myself could have done better. The two things that define me are my incredible, one of a kind piloting skills AND my humility.
Very well done.
Huge W by the pilot. Bravo!!!
As someone that loves flying with my face in the window most of the time it's nice once again seeing experience play a huge role in saving everyone. I use my experience as a passenger and fan of your channel along with other channels to carefully choose the seat I want that I think will have the best survivability. I even choose my attire specifically for flying and is one of few times I wear a belt. My belt years ago probably saved my friend's life after a head on accident.
A perfect accident, no? No fatalities, a previously unknown vulnerability discovered and patched, lessons learned for next time - what more could you want?
When you understand the immediate surroundings and actually saw the crashed aircraft on the ground you realise just how much of a disaster this could have been.
There was actually another incident of fuel crystals before this. But that crash had a 100% fatality and took over a year before they found that fuel crystals was the reason and this accident proved the prof they needed
An incredible landing and effort by the flight crew. This is such a weird failure to happen. I work with turbine systems and we have coolers and heaters throughout piping to regulate fluid temperatures. I never would've thought that such an anomaly would occur on a plane...
@@daftvader4218A crew solved this problem, almost satisfactorily, too.
Captain discovered the problem as far as possible, and took action to reduce damage and risk, co-pilot flew the plane (very important, that), third crewman checked the instruments and gave both others true data with which to work.
A real crew, no rugged individuals. Like astronauts.
Great video
I find it really amazing how in a few crash investigations the test pilots are incapable of recreating the success rate of the pilots who were there, it really shows just how talented these people are that they can operate at the absolute maximum in such high stress situations I've heard of a few times this has happened (the most well known is definitely the water landing over the hudson) for these people to do everything so perfectly that it's almost impossible to recreate is honestly astounding
great content
8:47 "Nature of problem"
I was regularly travelling from Heathrow to Benelux at this time. Flew Amsterdam week before and Brussels week after, from and too same runway. No second thoughts about continuing after it happened as the flight industry is pretty good as sorting this stuff out.
Loving these videos, but how about investing into some audio editing software, such as audition and apply some simple noise reduction and some compression? would be much better without hearing background noise.
So the pilots did a perfect green dot unbeaten in simulator. Bravo!
verry interesting,thank you.
Absolutely incredible
Slightly misleading thumbnail pic. They didn't even have a flight issue until they were miles past Parliament and central London.
Solid airmanship. We will always need capable pilots no matter the level of automation.
Some pressure that! Seconds from the ground and your whole world is on a knife edge and you’re still able to make those life saving decisions. 🤯
Simply impressive. Respect to captain and fo.
Thank you a bunch for these pretty informative videos linked to safety in Aviation industry. The crew really did a great job to glide in an attempt to reach the threshold in order to save passengers. Please, could you spell the first possible cause according to investigators? Prime minister motorcade and what ...? Something like staff or softereglage????!! I couldn't take in the word.
I heard Cardiff left a Fuel entry tank mat in the Fuel tank.
Wow dude awesome vid again Jus wanted to ask will u do some live streams or have a discord server in sometime? Crazy insight tho
Thanks! They sounds like great ideas. What kind of live stream would you be interested in? Talking with the camera, or using flight sim, etc.?
@@GreenDotAviation cameras not needed u can do like a few full flights or jus parody flights on flight sims like airforceproud95 does it would be great to talk to u on stream and seeing u make descision irl flying planes jus a fun time
@@big_man_ank1768 Thanks for the idea, that sounds great 😎I'll do a poll soon, and see what subscribers are interested in. It would be fun to do a livestream of a flight, or do a group flight on MSFS.
@@GreenDotAviation Maybe recreate some of the scenarios you cover here in the sim, that could be a fun livestream if it is challenging enough for you.
That would be interesting actually. I think more drawn-out incidents would be good for this, e.g. Aeroperu 603.
13:53 The ole Italian Tune Up - let her idle abit then drive like it's stolen. lol
Speedbird 95. That’s the simulator call sign. Interesting hint to human factors that the Captain said that under stress.
From the Mayday/Air Crash Investigation episode on this accident - Flight 95 was the next flight for the captain.
A very very minor design flaw in the design of the fuel/oil heat exchangers, that is only obvious in hindsight.
A skilled set of pilots, that is also obvious.
Fascinating ❤
14:32 Wow. Good job to the pilots here.
0:20 That sure was a short landing roll, or should I say skid.
That's what they call a " touch and stay".
Great Pilots….I worked on the 777s and they’re not a bad aircraft. I still prefer the 747 though!
The accident had nothing to do with Boeing, it was the shitty Rolls Royce Trent 800 engines with frozen fuel lines. In the end Boeing didn't alter anything , Rolls-Royce has redesigned the fuel line system..
WHOA! Cheers to the Captain!!
There was talk back then on how much water could be in the fuel and still have the airfield and it's refuelling reliability be certificated to international standards.
It's actually normal for some water to be dissolved in paraffin / kerosene / jet fuels of different types the percentage actually helps with an efficient burn, and thrust is increased in some jets by water injection.
The amount of water in fuel standing in refuelling tanks at airfields was reviewed after this incident, and it was discovered that when normal volumes of fuel (almost always a total fill of all tanks) occurred, water and fuel were thoroughly mixed in the pumping process, any standing water being re-dissolved into the fuel.
The idea that fuel and water could separate in the storage tanks, and one plane get more water than another is also dealt with by the standard standpipes within the storage tanks taking fuel from the lower part of the tank, preventing a build-up if it did separate.
I recall an occasion when a military jet had been flown several times, with top-ups to a standard level of fuel having been carried out several times in one day, which resulted in a higher than average water content, but this was found to be due to the fuel on the last fuelling coming from a standby vehicle that had not been used for a few days, and was nearly empty, and the water had separated AND the standpipe had been removed.
Fuellers keep careful track of fuel and where it comes from for this reason.
🎩 of for this captain and his crew❤❤❤😊
Have they released the full CVR I like the pull up terrain ahead pre c
i well remember this one. I was flying out of London on a 777 the very next day...
Sleep well that night ?