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Thanks for the video Sam! I bought an EV in 2022. It does everything I need it to do and it is cheaper to run. If the new EV models are better and the cost is coming down, why would I buy an ICE car?
Bought a 2024 Rav4 Prime a year ago. Living in a rural area with darn few charging stations around drove the decision to by the Prime. Great car. Plenty of power and comfort. Perfect for our particular use. But I must admit that I prefer driving it in EV mode rather than Hybrid mode. In EV mode it's quiet, faster, smoother acceleration, and plenty of power. I really notice the noise and the slower acceleration of the ICE more when in Hybrid mode.
Time to retire your Honda and consider another new 2025 EV from the Chinese, I wish Avatr EV would release the RHD models for their range.. Great options.
My EV is the best weekly drive I have owned good to drive saves money no visits to smelly gas/ petrol stations powered by the sun. I did not realize how strong the smell of gas /petrol is until I drove my EV for a few months.
Same here. We just had a winter storm pass through here in Colorado, and I decided to drive my Ford Ecosport with AWD instead of my Chevy Bolt. Having driven the Bolt all summer and fall, I didn't realize how loud and smelly gas cars are in comparison. As soon as I can afford an AWD electric I'm done with all ice cars.
I already invested in a level 2 charger at my house. Why would I ever go back if I've got the dream set up? If anything, i want to go further and get solar panels to produce my own "fuel" and v2h or battery back up. I'm more of an sufficiency wonk than a performance wonk: I could care less about the 0-60 time, but I love pushing the miles per kWh higher and higher.
The best bit about the level 2 charger is tying it with solar panels. More than 95% of my charging is from solar. With 25kW of panels and summer in Australia the panels are still making power until 8pm. I can get home from work and still top-up the car from solar. In fact, there's so much excess solar production in Australia the grid gives it away for free. They offer free EV charging during the middle of the day even if you don't have solar panels. My fuel costs dropped from $5k per year to less than $500. This car will pay for itself within its lifetime just on the fuel savings alone. I'm gobsmacked. The EV is also better to drive, more comfortable, more reliable, and less frustrating to own, its just the icing on the cake. I hesitated for so long, concerned about the range, and the range wasn't even an issue. The EV is superior to the ICE car in every respect that matters to me.
That's why a portable wireless charger that can be charged in the home & placed securely in the trunk of an electric vehicle would be a game changer for EV adaption!
@@Modok51 Check out the Silence S04 EV, it's more or less what you describe. It's a "nano" car meaning it's a small 2-seater, but it has two removable batteries that can be rolled (suitcase style) into the home for charging. It's not available in the US of course, but Europe has them. The batteries are also interchangeable with the S01 scooters they produce as well. Awesome system I would love to own.
LOL, most are liars. Those "claiming" to go back have likely never owned an EV in the first place. They're trolls, usually people involved with the sales and servicing of gasoline and diesel vehicles (especially new car dealers and their employees). They see mass adoption of EV's as a serious threat to their career choice. Dealers fear mass adoption of EV's will undermine the Parts & Service side of their business. These people now incessantly troll the comment forums under EV articles (claiming to be ordinary consumers) spreading misinformation in an effort to discourage consumers from buying electric vehicles. Spend enough time out here in these comment forums and you'll begin to see the same names making negative comments.
The transition happens after you test drive an EV, quiet, smooth, insane throttle response. Then you get back into your combustible vehicle and it hits you. All this complexity and noise and smell is no longer relevant. Nothing to do with the environment, cost, etc. EV’s are just better all round.
In the UK Tesla has sold around 48,000 ev's in 2024 but only put in chargers in 3 sites (2 in England, 1 in Ireland) no plans from what I can see regarding new charging sites in 2025. For me there needs to be a big upgrade in chargers. I do not want to travel 10 or 20 miles out of my way just to get to a Tesla charger. If they put 2 or 3 in every fuel station that would help as there are over 8,000 in the UK in places that you generally pass.
Sounds like Bs to me. Putting in level 1 chargers at your parking spot is no big deal. Either tie it to your meter or add a small up charge to your parking.
I have been driving an ev for more than 12 years. I would never go back to ice cars. Hardly any service costs, no gas fumes, smooth ride, Generally fund to drive!! A win/win😊
I was a party in September. Somebody over heard me answering questions asked by another about my EV experience. He then confronted me about my opinion, and I liked my EV. I told him I'd never ever consider buying another vehicle that burned a hydrocarbon fuel. He said, "You're being ridiculous" my response, "Why, my EV is just a better car, better acceleration, quieter, cheaper....."
72% of the respondents mainly charge at home. Also cited was bad coverage of fast chargers and time to charge as key disadvantages. Based on this, it would be more interesting if they surveyed more users who can not charge at home.
People shouldn't buy EVs if they can not charge at home. They should buy PHEVs. But lots of them regret that decision. Because once people buy PHEVs, they wanna charge them. And PHEVs tend to have much smaller batteries, therefore they have to recharge much more often than EVs. But that's just the case in China, because electricity is still very cheap there.
well i hired a model Y for 2 weeks and did 2500km in that time and never charged once at home and only did DCFC and the odd AC at shopping centre and had no issues. so needing a home charger is not a reason not to buy 1
Even if you don’t, the advantages are still huge. Unless you live in the Yukon or Central Australia, there is a public charger today in 2024 within 5 - 10 miles of you. Even if you pay the highest rates for electricity at said charger, it is still cheaper than gas and you save on the maintenance.
Ooooo! I sooooo miss the gas station smell and artificially high gas prices on certain weekends. And all those parts I never knew existed that need to be replaced every 50 000km? I so miss having to do that. I can’t believe I’m never going to see a dealer again and get to haggle one whether the mats are included! Waiting for the acceleration to “kick in“ so, so amazing as my life flashes before my eyes! Hate that full charge every time I wake up! I mean that windshield fluid top up truly is a pain the royal arse. …said no Tesla owner Ever!
A lot of comments saying EV sales are dropping, I'm seeing them more and more, I'm lucky to have both now and my ICE vehicle barely moves from the garage, Around town the EV is super efficient , bloody quick, quiet and comfortable 😊 Thinking about getting the Sealion 6 for long range.
After years of exponential growth, sales of electric vehicles in Australia are faltering, achieving only 7.6 per cent of total car sales from January to August this year, according to data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) and the Electric Vehicle Council (EVC). Australians purchased 129,895 Hybrids in the first nine months of 2024 compared to 82,961 Electric Vehicles.
True but you need to very clearly state your context & how the answer is moulded by that! I live in a big UK city with no independent/at home charging. In that context, having a ICE system remains the best current solution because I cannot independently charge the car & its a hassle to continously find a charging point - if thats even available...
A car is on the road for roughly 13 years. Sales of EVs 13 years ago was nearly nothing, so the number of EVs on the road is growing fast, and that growth will support many more chargers, making EVs more convenient.
Got solar because I’m a bit of a prepper and I like the idea of producing and storing my own energy and then powering my home and tools and cars. Also, the electric utility and fossil fuel cartels are corrupt and I no longer want to do business with those crooks. And, we are rural and our electricity and gas are expensive. And, I live just over a mountain from the most polluted region in the US. I’m tired of adding to that pollution. And, global warming is hammering our region, driving up the cost of home insurance and also food (heat and drought are expensive for farmers) and electricity (our electric cartel keeps starting fires and burning down homes and towns and even killing people. That is expensive). So, not buying another dirty and overly fragile and inefficient ICE piece of junk.
Mines is going down in value faster than I can pay it off. That's why I haven't gone back. Here in nz, the road user charges and lack of public charges kill all remaining joy.
During our NZ visit earlier in 2024, my wife and I had no issues doing return trips from Auckland to Wellington and New Plymouth in an EV. That was thanks to Tesla, Z Energy, ChargeNet, PlugShare and A Better Route Planner. The latter pair of apps also showed up chargers in places we hoped to visit, but ran out of time. All this while being tourists.
The data I have seen is very different: “According to a survey by McKinsey & Co., 46% of electric vehicle (EV) owners in the United States are unlikely to buy another EV”
I drive a BYD Atto 3 for several months now, it is not the fastest thing around, despite having 210 hp and accelerate from 0 to 100 kph in 7.6 seconds. But at least the acceleration is linear and consistent. It is easy to smooth things out, except the auto-hold brakes. The steering radius is cartoonishly small, often to the amazement of bystanders that I often made a U-turn in single pass or exit a parking spot seamlessly. It doesn't like being fast, let alone fast corners - it is just a comfortable city cruiser, competent enough for daily driving. Then I tried a Mercedes-Benz E-class, and then BMW 3 series, and then Toyota Camry - I remembered how terribly twitchy its throttle response was, never consistent and constantly demand you to match its rpm to your driving situation, whether you are accelerating or just smoothing things out, it doesn't like to settle in a certain gear if you are not in highway cruising speed. The Merc has 9 gears, and you'd think it is smooth, but only so in the highways, so almost as useless as most other German dual clutch nonsense in Ford Focus, VW Golf, and the likes. It doesn't like city driving at all. The steering is clumsy at slow speed, you hit the slightest bump or uneven surface, the steering wheel does communicate that well with you, but any otherwise, very hyper-reactive given its super light power steering at low speed. The only time I enjoyed ICE car is when I cruise on open highway, especially with the BMW. It eats long winding fast corners super well, and loves to be played around. Don't get me into improperly handling tall cars like Crossovers and SUVs - it is much more terrible now as they wobbles about. I am also reminded how awfully bad the suspension setup and ride quality in cheap Japanese cars were. They were super noisy and cheap flimsy materials rattled everywhere. And then you watch the fuel consumption gauge. The thing with ICE, whether it is diesel or petrol - it burns fuel, quite inefficiently just to stay idle, no wonder they give it a start-stop function as a crutch to address this. It doesn't get efficient until you hit the 1:1 direct drive gear (usually 4th gear in 5 or 6 speed transmission), which almost doesn't happen in inter-city drive, or morning highway commute - you and most drivers tend to push your cars in overdrive gears when on highway. With 1 litre of petrol = 8.9 kW conversion, the rate of petrol car inefficiency is just unacceptable. They are like 6 times energy waster if you are not doing 50 kph or over. They say Tesla is badly made and poorly finished with a lot of panel gaps - but the Model 3 that I rode along was very quiet and smooth. I don't think I am going back to ICE cars though. Depreciation is just the language of a used car salesman of a certain brand - sleazy dishonest business. If any, we will have a lot of cheap used EVs should it depreciate greatly, I'll gladly pick a good one, like a used Zeekr or Xpeng or maybe even Tesla. That would drive used ICE cars down too, if my last used car buyer were correct, things were already looking bad for them with ICE cars price keeps on falling.
I bought a Nissan leaf, it's a great city car. I'm anticipating when more of these cheap Chinese EVs actually arrive in NZ. You are driving an Xpeng, but Xpeng are not sold in NZ yet. Problem is that new car sales volume here is 1/20th of Oz. Most people buy Japanese cars exported used - they're cheap, low km and a bargain. But very limited used EV options ex Japan. That said, I will never buy another ICE and planning to replace our ex-Japan Toyota Wish (people mover) when an affordable EV alternative is available
I have only owned a model y for 2 weeks and I am never going back. As a matter of fact I am getting the refresh model y next year and then won’t have any ice vehicles 😊
Good question. They depreciate like that because people are afraid of battery degredation. What people don't realize is that modern EVs have batteries that will almost always last ~15 years or and longer. The issue has been that non-Tesla brands have sometimes used crappy batteries in the past, and the media has had a field day with it, while getting paid by Big Oil to do so. The reality is, in almost all cases, a used EV is a great choice, and an incredible bargain because it's "depreciated" so much. Battery Management Systems are so good these days that even supercharging (or it's equivalent) all the time doesn't really do much to batteries anymore. The batteries are fed exactly what they can handle.
1. Batteries will continue to be cheaper. 2. Some EV companies are waging a price war by lowering prices so much without any regard for those who have already bought them, which has also caused second-hand prices to fall.
So if EV's are so good, why are the customer satisfaction surveys and warranty surveys on EV cars being reported by the likes of What Car and CarWow and others? These surveys showing high failures with the EV's. Brands such as Jaguar I-Pace where jag had to buy back some 2000+ vehicles from owners, and other high warranty issues from Mercedes on their EQ series. Also the massive Jeep EV quality issue with recalls in the 10's of thousands in the USA. Not all seems to be roses.
The world is not America. EV success void of politics and misinformation that is rampant in USA paints a very different picture. In markets where EVs are measured on there merits the adoption is higher and proven much different from the propaganda spread in USA
ice cars have recalls as well, but they have had a 100 years head start. As evs evolve, they will have less problems. The jag used a battery that did not work in other brands as well. The latest tech is much more robust.
@@jackoneill28 MG EV's in UK were two of the 10 worst performing cars for satisfaction surveys in the UK in 2024 according to What Car report some 2 months ago. MG ZS EV and MG 4EV see link attached . Jeep and Jag are less than acceptable and Mercedes and the Porsche EV terican did not perform all that well in recent warranty results. Chinese car makers do not release warranty data and there are failures and poor warranty reports for the Chinese Tesla vehicles sold in Aus. it is not all sunshine and lollipops. Much more performance data needs to be released to help make an informed decision as style and looks don't make it a quality product - reliability and performance does. and Jag after all is owned by Chinese manufacturer and they make the EV units and controllers and batteries in the Jag. ruclips.net/video/fnfp6dCL4oE/видео.html
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf I agree all brands have warranty issues ICE and EV. and the Poor performance and warranty data needs to be made aware for the Chinese brands also. that info is not published by Chinese car makers. There re good and bad from all origins. EV's are not all fault free. EVs of MG ( ZS and MG4 ) were 2 of the worst performing vehicles in the UK in 2024 ruclips.net/video/fnfp6dCL4oE/видео.html
I'm only at 0:25 but I just can't help myself: I hope there's a "once you go B, you don't go back" joke/pun/reference in this video! That would be awesome 😃
We don't even have electric cars to buy here, and those that exists are like 40-60k+ euros which is crazy. Europe needs 10-15k cars that go over 600-700km.
UK Zapmap survey now in its seventh year, the survey attracted 3,746 respondent, fewer than 3% of EV drivers stated they missed their internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle and wanted to switch back.
Some very early adopters of EV's, with the original Leaf and Bolt, have gone to hybrids as the range and tech in those EV's was pretty lame, however, people buying EV's over the past few years, will almost never go back to oil cars (OV's). I haven't patented OV, feel free to use it. :)
I rent them when I travel. Have a trusty RAV4 at home. Can’t afford to switch yet. I find myself lamenting the wasted energy of braking and my driving is insanely smoother because I’m annoyed at wasting energy and having no regen etc. lol
EVs are overpriced. Then there is the insurance. Too expensive. Finally, Australia has too many SUVs and pickup trucks. Where are the small electric cars? Why? Greed. Big cars big profits.
I was like you, bitched everything ! The main problem is your ability to learn or change ! You can find a good insurance, ice cars a way overpriced when you ad gas and maintenance over 15 years ! Bought an ev and I am so impressed its designed for the driver not like ice cars to get to the dealer and buy nonsense fossil junk.
Gasoline is overpriced... the car I bought new for US $27K has had US $50K worth of gasoline put into it. I could buy a new Model Y and replace the battery in 10-12 years and be money ahead.
My Porsche 928 has a 23 gallon fuel tank and gets 25 mpg on the highway that's over 500 miles highway range and takes 5 minutes to fill up has a top speed of 165 mph 0-60 in 5.7 seconds and keeps appreciating in value and since I know how to fix ICE cars, I'm sticking to it for now unless EV prices drop. I can drive non-stop from San Diego To Las Vegas without needing to stop half way to charge and wait in line at a busy fast charger.
A here we have an example of someone who still thinks his ICE car gives his tinky winky more length. That's why he drives a compensation car like a Porsche 928. it doesn't do that and in fact talking about it makes you instantly recognizable as a tiny tinky winky man.
you maybe right but until you come across a issue that does not allow you to keep driving it. e.g. engine, trans etc. where cost to repair is no longer cost effective, yes it is almost a classic but not for a daily runner. but also suggest look at some of the conversions been done with the classics. but suggest moth ball it and just get a EV to keep the running cost down and to put money way for restoration
Oh nice. an ICE driver who gives an example of an ICE car that isnt like 99.9999% of ICE cars out there and lose money every month. I think i will listen to this example and apply it to my own life and expect the same results. ......Not.
If we have roughly 20m cars on our roads in australia and only sell around 1m cars a year that means 20 years to replace our cars with ev's maybe more as not all those 1m cars are evs
If "go back" means "fully stop using EVs", I think it's understandable why they don't "go back". If "go back" means "not stop using EVs, but still using ICE cars sometimes (e.g. on very long distance trips, or having to travel with person who hate EV or fear EV fire/explode/short-circuit)", then I believe that there will be more people who "go back".
I bought a used 2015 Prius V. It had only 38 k miles and will probably drive another 200 k miles no maintenance. I paid only 16,500. Oh get 45 -50 miles per gallon . It’s quiet and very zippy and hauls everything. Not all those computers that these electric cars have that I’m sure will eventually break . I do like the style and comfort of someone the designs but I’ll wait and see how reliable they are first. Don’t fool your self , if your driving on the road your breathing in all the same fumes .
I don't know of the percentage is correct. But if ex-EV owners go back to ICE, it's probably because of range and charging. Takes too long to charge, esp. if one has to make a lot of long distance trips. This is if one has expectations similar to the ICE-gas-station experience. I own an EV. Wouldn't go back to ICE, because it drives like crap, by comparison. Don't have home charging. It took awhile to get use to a new lifestyle. Now charge at a shopping mall, while I do my shopping. Sometimes it's nerve racking when the stalls are full. Sometimes it's a bit of an adventure to try out new EVgo stations at new shopping mall. (Know my options.). But it's an issue if one doesn't have home charging. Though I've finally gotten use to it. It's workable. But I can see how this can be a barrier for some people.
I've had many cars during my life time from many manufacturers and in my mind there is no comparison between ICE and EV's, Ice cars are the past EV's are better in every way
This is incredibly misleading to say the least. Here's how the data was collected: they only surveyed people who were members of the "Global Electric Vehicle Alliance" or their "collaborating partners". They then extrapolated "weighted" this data according to population of each country, operating on the assumption that it is representative of Joe Public. I shouldn't need to say this but people who are EV owners club members are more likely than average to have a positive attitude towards the technology, in other words it is a selection bias. Perhaps next they could survey coal miners to see what % of the "public" supports coal power plants? I subscribed to you because you appeared more balanced and intelligent in your analysis than most but this is either lazy reporting or willfully misleading on your part- did you even read the study?
I scanned the comments to see if anybody had gotten there first. These are very enthusiastic folks to join a club. The GEVA "study" is in its way as FUDsy as the McKinsey thing with 46% of US owners going back to ICE (when Tesla loyalty alone is above 90%). Or the one with half of EV trade-ins at "dealerships" going back to ICE. Tesla and Rivian don't have normal dealerships for one thing. We can argue over 1 or 46%, but neither passes the smell test. My guess is 80-90% of owners will still own an EV in ten years. We're in a post-truth age and it's gonna take us down without a little common sense.
Not surprised in the slightest, if I could home change then I would have an EV and wouldn’t look twice at ICE. What needs to happen is fix it so that people like me where in first floor flat and parking space other side of road can get domestic rate charging. At the moment then either 1.) two journeys to supermarket and leave car there to charge up at 44p a unit and walk back home whilst charges and then go collect afterwards. - not happening 2.) stop off at fast charger on the journey. More expensive then ICE as 79p at local fast charger and still have 15-20minutes stop to charge. I work from home so no destination charging at work. Was out with friend in his cupra EV and could not tell the difference. As the noise in the cabin in my car is Road and Wind Noise not the noise from the engine with modern sound dampening. Refuelling the car is don’t drive around the petrol station on way out of the supermarket after shopping. I drive 0 miles to refuel and is the 10minutes tops to refuel. Range of cars not a problem. Time to charge (not a problem if could charge at home) Charging network not a problem in UK if using to top up when out and about, The biggest obstacle to EV adoption is if someone can easily charge or not at home. If you can charge at home is a no brainer to do EV, unless have some extremely niche requirements. You will need to stop for your body before run out of battery range and at least here in the UK then the charging network is pretty good on major routes so finding a charger to top up if you cannot out and back on your charge from home. Sadly is an area that nobody is looking to actually fix
I did, well from my Chevy Volt PHEV. Was hoping to keep it and save for a decent EV but it broke, so I bought a used Audi A3, I'm still saving for an EV, EV's are expensive and I don't want to be in debt with a loan or lease, a used Taycan is the plan.
In urban indoor parking and charging or warm climate with charging infrastructure as long as they don't spontaneously fire, fine. Rural to suburban, hybrid only. We all know the EV nightmare for everyone not in hivemind 😮
This goes for average drivers, the enthusiasts will have a totally different outlook on this. I personally like to drive good performance cars. Ev or ICE… whatever
..Maybe that’ll never go back to an ICE ‘cos they can’t afford to…. They’ll be paying for their electric car for the next 6 or 7 years. By the time they’ve finished paying, electric cars will be all that’s available!
The Zeekr 001 isn’t available in the uk, what is a shame as I do like the looks and spec on that. I am seriously considering buying my first EV next year, what will most likely be a used Tesla Model 3.
I can never go back to ICE. Everytime I drive my wife’s new Kia Carnival I live the space but man driving a gas engine is so slow and so clunky. The pure acceleration that EVs provide is unlike anything gas cars can offer. No engine in the world is as smooth as an EV.
Is it wise to import all these EVs into Australia when Australians are purchasing more Hybrids than EVs? Sales of Hybrid cars in Australia have charged ahead of demand for electric vehicles (EVs), reflecting a global trend that has seen major car makers scale back their EV production targets. After years of exponential growth, sales of electric vehicles in Australia are faltering, achieving only 7.6 per cent of total car sales from January to August this year, according to data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) and the Electric Vehicle Council (EVC). Australians purchased 129,895 Hybrids in the first nine months of 2024 compared to 82,961 Electric Vehicles. Car makers have observed slowing demand for EVs around the world, particularly in the United States, which saw sales of hybrids grow five times faster than EV sales in February this year. EV sales will eventually exceed Hydrids and ICE cars, but this won’t happen until battery technology improves and at present, this is not happening to any great degree.
@@philiptaylor7902No what these people are saying. After years of exponential growth, sales of electric vehicles in Australia are faltering, achieving only 7.6 per cent of total car sales from January to August this year, according to data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) and the Electric Vehicle Council (EVC). Australians purchased 129,895 Hybrids in the first nine months of 2024 compared to 82,961 Electric Vehicles.
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Had EVs for over 12 years and their is no going back for me now and people with ICE vehicles don't know what they are missing out on. I will correct that, one thing you can get from a ICE vehicle which you can't get from a EV is Lung Cancer from tail pipe Emissions and I know what you are saying, it won't happen to me but if it does it's too late.
My electric car is brilliant. 1000 miles for £14 on Octopus energy Intelligent Go tariff. So smooth, quiet and powerful. No visiting the fuel station. Preheated on the cold frosty mornings. No way would I give this up and go back to a mechanical piston engined car.
On a planet where the population is aging rapidly, electric cars have an enormous defect which slows down their sale, it's the fact that their on-board computer screen keeps changing regularly. Older people (who have the money to buy Teslas) like stability and use their car to go from point A to point B. They hate to see their on-board computer screen changing because they are afraid of computers. They are like that and nobody will change that. To increase the sale of EVs, Tesla for example should offer to its customers the option to ¨freeze¨ the on-board computer screen for the lifetime of the car. First, only the most essential elements should appear on the computer screen and those elements should be extremely similar to what we see on the dashboard of a gasoline car. Second, any improvement Tesla sends by radio to the on-board computer should remain hidden if it's not essential to drive the car. Third, if somebody has modified the computer screen for whatever reason, there should a ¨reset¨ button on the computer screen to bring back the permanent display I am talking about. Somebody should tell Tesla.
@kentyler3962 Imagine losing 20% of your car's capacity and being so c*cked that you accept that and just say "it's no big deal, just 20%!". I thought EV owners couldn't get more pathetic but you proved me wrong. Kudos.
I went from a Ford Ranger XLT to a Model 3 2024 and ill never go back. Once the other car we have, an old BMW, get too expensive to maintain, we will switch that out for an EV as well. I'm hooked, got solar and a 7KW EV charger installed, loving the ecosystem.
I drive an EV but my sister hates them, she told me that she doesn’t even want to sit in one. When I asked her why she told me they are too quiet! What? Apparently she hates them because they might run over deaf people. I didn’t argue with her, but maybe I should have reminded her that our deaf brother drives an EV! 😂😂😂
If you want to believe that batteries fail and cold weather, then you should research it a little more about what the real problem was human air or the batteries lack of understanding or the batteries there’s a lot of research out there on RUclips that will be very accurate and will satisfy anybody that wants to know the truth the truth is that batteriesare not hurt by cold weather.
Sam, it sounds like you’re asking people to make money-saving, practical decisions. Folks who are considering purchasing an EV need to ask questions of people who have owned an EV for over 90 days, but they shouldn’t make a decision based on some random form online.
This "Over 50% of EV drivers won't buy an EV for their next car" rubbish that's ben bandied about is entirely down to multicar families happy with the EV they have but wanting to get a hybrid to replace the other car so that long trips won't be a worry. Such hybrids would be run on batteries 80-90% meaning that gas would only cover less than 5% of driven mileage.
It's great that they can wait to charge, they are not afraid of electric fire/explosion/short circuit, they are not afraid that the "digital car" may have bugs, errors or glitches while driving or before driving, and they are not forbidden from having EV by their families.
I can't go back to petrol/diesel. My only concern was long-distance trips but it wasn't an issue afterall. It turns out the furthest I can drive before I need to stretch my legs is about 4 hours. As long as there's a supercharger every 4 hours I don't care about the range.
@@thewolf9851 It's like going from a rotary phone to an iPhone. The rotary phone has some nostalgia but I'd never want to use it again. The whole experience of an EV is just so far advanced it makes the old technology look laughably obsolete. I don't go to petrol stations anymore. I don't worry about "warming up" the engine. I don't have to get the engine serviced. The car doesn't vibrate when I'm stopped. It doesn't make any noise. It accelerates effortlessly. It even steers itself. Dinosaurs stuck in the past might lament the loss of the engine "roar" but you know what, I don't miss it. I'd rather listen to my music anyway. If I want to hear a V8 engine I can just put a Spotify song on that plays V8 engines noises. I don't miss it in the slightest. Petrol engines are just so stupid. Once you go EV you realize how dumb we've been, clinging to this ancient nonsense technology from the 1800s. It's just incredible how stuck in the past some people are. The EV is so good. I can't go back.
@nhand42 EVs are just so stupid. Imagine having to wait an hour for your car to "charge" 🤣 Imagine worrying about the temperature outside because your car might not go as far if it's cold 😂 Imagine complaining about the vibrations of a regular car 😂 Imagine being and owning a car that will lose 80% of it's value in just a few years 🤣 Imagine listening to speakers just to hear the sound of an engine 😂 Imagine being so unintelligent that you need your car to drive itself because you can't 🤣 Imagine thinking you're saving the environment by driving an inferior vehicle which actually pollutes the environment even more 😂 Imagine the only good thing about your car being fast acceleration 🤣 Imagine that 😂😂😂
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Thanks for the video Sam! I bought an EV in 2022. It does everything I need it to do and it is cheaper to run. If the new EV models are better and the cost is coming down, why would I buy an ICE car?
Bought a 2024 Rav4 Prime a year ago. Living in a rural area with darn few charging stations around drove the decision to by the Prime. Great car. Plenty of power and comfort. Perfect for our particular use. But I must admit that I prefer driving it in EV mode rather than Hybrid mode. In EV mode it's quiet, faster, smoother acceleration, and plenty of power. I really notice the noise and the slower acceleration of the ICE more when in Hybrid mode.
Our 3rd EV so far, 1. Honda E, 2. BMW i4, 3. BYD seal (see the trend? after the first EV from Honda, 2 other EVs followed . . .)
Time to retire your Honda and consider another new 2025 EV from the Chinese, I wish Avatr EV would release the RHD models for their range.. Great options.
maybe a luxury model myber zeexr 007
My EV is the best weekly drive I have owned good to drive saves money no visits to smelly gas/ petrol stations powered by the sun. I did not realize how strong the smell of gas /petrol is until I drove my EV for a few months.
Ooh petrol is so smelly 😔
Do you realize how pathetic you sound?
Same here. We just had a winter storm pass through here in Colorado, and I decided to drive my Ford Ecosport with AWD instead of my Chevy Bolt. Having driven the Bolt all summer and fall, I didn't realize how loud and smelly gas cars are in comparison. As soon as I can afford an AWD electric I'm done with all ice cars.
I live in USA, I have an EV and an ice car. This is perfect for because the charging infrastructure isn’t ready for cross country driving.
What's not to like with Ev's? I need to replace my 18 year old Holden Astra. End of an era and looking forward to buying a new EV in 2025.
Everything?
I already invested in a level 2 charger at my house. Why would I ever go back if I've got the dream set up? If anything, i want to go further and get solar panels to produce my own "fuel" and v2h or battery back up. I'm more of an sufficiency wonk than a performance wonk: I could care less about the 0-60 time, but I love pushing the miles per kWh higher and higher.
suggest a look at sigenergy and their battery system with 25kw dc ev charger with V2X
Because you don't have the dream setup
The best bit about the level 2 charger is tying it with solar panels. More than 95% of my charging is from solar. With 25kW of panels and summer in Australia the panels are still making power until 8pm. I can get home from work and still top-up the car from solar. In fact, there's so much excess solar production in Australia the grid gives it away for free. They offer free EV charging during the middle of the day even if you don't have solar panels. My fuel costs dropped from $5k per year to less than $500. This car will pay for itself within its lifetime just on the fuel savings alone. I'm gobsmacked. The EV is also better to drive, more comfortable, more reliable, and less frustrating to own, its just the icing on the cake.
I hesitated for so long, concerned about the range, and the range wasn't even an issue. The EV is superior to the ICE car in every respect that matters to me.
Most people going back to ICE probably don't have home charging and perhaps have charging issues where they live.
That's why a portable wireless charger that can be charged in the home & placed securely in the trunk of an electric vehicle would be a game changer for EV adaption!
@@Modok51 just how big and heavy does a portable wireless charger have to be?
@@ronaldlindeman6136 Heavy enough for this idea to be completely impractical.
@@Modok51 Check out the Silence S04 EV, it's more or less what you describe. It's a "nano" car meaning it's a small 2-seater, but it has two removable batteries that can be rolled (suitcase style) into the home for charging. It's not available in the US of course, but Europe has them. The batteries are also interchangeable with the S01 scooters they produce as well. Awesome system I would love to own.
LOL, most are liars. Those "claiming" to go back have likely never owned an EV in the first place. They're trolls, usually people involved with the sales and servicing of gasoline and diesel vehicles (especially new car dealers and their employees). They see mass adoption of EV's as a serious threat to their career choice. Dealers fear mass adoption of EV's will undermine the Parts & Service side of their business. These people now incessantly troll the comment forums under EV articles (claiming to be ordinary consumers) spreading misinformation in an effort to discourage consumers from buying electric vehicles. Spend enough time out here in these comment forums and you'll begin to see the same names making negative comments.
The transition happens after you test drive an EV, quiet, smooth, insane throttle response. Then you get back into your combustible vehicle and it hits you. All this complexity and noise and smell is no longer relevant. Nothing to do with the environment, cost, etc. EV’s are just better all round.
I know EV owners who say the same they will never go back to ICE
Others said if they have to move large items they rent a ICE van/truck for 1/2 day
My girlfriend drives an electric smart car with barely any range and she even says she’ll never go back to gas. 😂
In the UK Tesla has sold around 48,000 ev's in 2024 but only put in chargers in 3 sites (2 in England, 1 in Ireland) no plans from what I can see regarding new charging sites in 2025. For me there needs to be a big upgrade in chargers. I do not want to travel 10 or 20 miles out of my way just to get to a Tesla charger. If they put 2 or 3 in every fuel station that would help as there are over 8,000 in the UK in places that you generally pass.
If you live in a big city your building may not have an option to charge. I asked one time and they said a person would have to hire an engineer etc…
Sounds like Bs to me. Putting in level 1 chargers at your parking spot is no big deal. Either tie it to your meter or add a small up charge to your parking.
@ it is underground and building management said would need electrician and engineer and would have to pay myself
@@richardkeller4892 Is the garage lit? Are there existing 110 volt outlets in the garage?
@ no outlets in garage, only by indoor part by elevator.
when my Bolt had the big battery replace form recall, I needed to rent a car and got stuck with a ice car, man I cannot believe how much I hated it
Never, ever going back to ICE cars.
Pathetic.
Same here, I say the same thing about my electric lawn mower. I don't miss the loud noise and stink from my old gas mowers.
@@thewolf9851 Keep coping.
@KP-xi4bj EV owners are the ones coping when their car depreciates and drives less when it's cold outside 😂😂😂
@@thewolf9851 Sure, buddy. 🙄
I have been driving an ev for more than 12 years. I would never go back to ice cars. Hardly any service costs, no gas fumes, smooth ride,
Generally fund to drive!! A win/win😊
I was a party in September. Somebody over heard me answering questions asked by another about my EV experience.
He then confronted me about my opinion, and I liked my EV.
I told him I'd never ever consider buying another vehicle that burned a hydrocarbon fuel. He said, "You're being ridiculous" my response, "Why, my EV is just a better car, better acceleration, quieter, cheaper....."
72% of the respondents mainly charge at home. Also cited was bad coverage of fast chargers and time to charge as key disadvantages. Based on this, it would be more interesting if they surveyed more users who can not charge at home.
People shouldn't buy EVs if they can not charge at home. They should buy PHEVs. But lots of them regret that decision. Because once people buy PHEVs, they wanna charge them. And PHEVs tend to have much smaller batteries, therefore they have to recharge much more often than EVs. But that's just the case in China, because electricity is still very cheap there.
well i hired a model Y for 2 weeks and did 2500km in that time and never charged once at home and only did DCFC and the odd AC at shopping centre and had no issues. so needing a home charger is not a reason not to buy 1
Even if you don’t, the advantages are still huge. Unless you live in the Yukon or Central Australia, there is a public charger today in 2024 within 5 - 10 miles of you. Even if you pay the highest rates for electricity at said charger, it is still cheaper than gas and you save on the maintenance.
Ooooo! I sooooo miss the gas station smell and artificially high gas prices on certain weekends. And all those parts I never knew existed that need to be replaced every 50 000km? I so miss having to do that. I can’t believe I’m never going to see a dealer again and get to haggle one whether the mats are included! Waiting for the acceleration to “kick in“ so, so amazing as my life flashes before my eyes! Hate that full charge every time I wake up! I mean that windshield fluid top up truly is a pain the royal arse.
…said no Tesla owner
Ever!
A lot of comments saying EV sales are dropping, I'm seeing them more and more, I'm lucky to have both now and my ICE vehicle barely moves from the garage,
Around town the EV is super efficient , bloody quick, quiet and comfortable 😊
Thinking about getting the Sealion 6 for long range.
After years of exponential growth, sales of electric vehicles in Australia are faltering, achieving only 7.6 per cent of total car sales from January to August this year, according to data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) and the Electric Vehicle Council (EVC). Australians purchased 129,895 Hybrids in the first nine months of 2024 compared to 82,961 Electric Vehicles.
My example is would you watch a tube TV after watching a 75 inch 4k HD screen?
True but you need to very clearly state your context & how the answer is moulded by that!
I live in a big UK city with no independent/at home charging. In that context, having a ICE system remains the best current solution because I cannot independently charge the car & its a hassle to continously find a charging point - if thats even available...
True ,big cities have problems providing EV charge points/stations.. which is way there's always be a mix of ICE and EV till 2030 at least...
@@jansenwilder1335Yeah until ICE cars reclaim the throne
Hey, Sam. How about a contest to determine what major OEM will adopt Tesla's FSD first & which vendor will be the last to adopt FSD!
A car is on the road for roughly 13 years. Sales of EVs 13 years ago was nearly nothing, so the number of EVs on the road is growing fast, and that growth will support many more chargers, making EVs more convenient.
Got solar because I’m a bit of a prepper and I like the idea of producing and storing my own energy and then powering my home and tools and cars. Also, the electric utility and fossil fuel cartels are corrupt and I no longer want to do business with those crooks. And, we are rural and our electricity and gas are expensive. And, I live just over a mountain from the most polluted region in the US. I’m tired of adding to that pollution. And, global warming is hammering our region, driving up the cost of home insurance and also food (heat and drought are expensive for farmers) and electricity (our electric cartel keeps starting fires and burning down homes and towns and even killing people. That is expensive). So, not buying another dirty and overly fragile and inefficient ICE piece of junk.
We're adding a Chevy EV Equinox to our gen2 Volt ownership
Mines is going down in value faster than I can pay it off. That's why I haven't gone back. Here in nz, the road user charges and lack of public charges kill all remaining joy.
During our NZ visit earlier in 2024, my wife and I had no issues doing return trips from Auckland to Wellington and New Plymouth in an EV. That was thanks to Tesla, Z Energy, ChargeNet, PlugShare and A Better Route Planner. The latter pair of apps also showed up chargers in places we hoped to visit, but ran out of time. All this while being tourists.
Good on ya mate. Well as a kiwi in the south island, aka the real nz. I can tell you the charging network sucks.
I wish Avartr would release the RHD models for our markets.. great EV design, Huawei software and premium interior.
The data I have seen is very different: “According to a survey by McKinsey & Co., 46% of electric vehicle (EV) owners in the United States are unlikely to buy another EV”
I read the same thing. I got rid of my Tesla Model Y after 15 months and returned to gas car
@ Statistics are an amazing Tool.
I drive a BYD Atto 3 for several months now, it is not the fastest thing around, despite having 210 hp and accelerate from 0 to 100 kph in 7.6 seconds. But at least the acceleration is linear and consistent. It is easy to smooth things out, except the auto-hold brakes. The steering radius is cartoonishly small, often to the amazement of bystanders that I often made a U-turn in single pass or exit a parking spot seamlessly. It doesn't like being fast, let alone fast corners - it is just a comfortable city cruiser, competent enough for daily driving.
Then I tried a Mercedes-Benz E-class, and then BMW 3 series, and then Toyota Camry - I remembered how terribly twitchy its throttle response was, never consistent and constantly demand you to match its rpm to your driving situation, whether you are accelerating or just smoothing things out, it doesn't like to settle in a certain gear if you are not in highway cruising speed. The Merc has 9 gears, and you'd think it is smooth, but only so in the highways, so almost as useless as most other German dual clutch nonsense in Ford Focus, VW Golf, and the likes. It doesn't like city driving at all. The steering is clumsy at slow speed, you hit the slightest bump or uneven surface, the steering wheel does communicate that well with you, but any otherwise, very hyper-reactive given its super light power steering at low speed. The only time I enjoyed ICE car is when I cruise on open highway, especially with the BMW. It eats long winding fast corners super well, and loves to be played around.
Don't get me into improperly handling tall cars like Crossovers and SUVs - it is much more terrible now as they wobbles about. I am also reminded how awfully bad the suspension setup and ride quality in cheap Japanese cars were. They were super noisy and cheap flimsy materials rattled everywhere.
And then you watch the fuel consumption gauge. The thing with ICE, whether it is diesel or petrol - it burns fuel, quite inefficiently just to stay idle, no wonder they give it a start-stop function as a crutch to address this. It doesn't get efficient until you hit the 1:1 direct drive gear (usually 4th gear in 5 or 6 speed transmission), which almost doesn't happen in inter-city drive, or morning highway commute - you and most drivers tend to push your cars in overdrive gears when on highway. With 1 litre of petrol = 8.9 kW conversion, the rate of petrol car inefficiency is just unacceptable. They are like 6 times energy waster if you are not doing 50 kph or over.
They say Tesla is badly made and poorly finished with a lot of panel gaps - but the Model 3 that I rode along was very quiet and smooth.
I don't think I am going back to ICE cars though. Depreciation is just the language of a used car salesman of a certain brand - sleazy dishonest business. If any, we will have a lot of cheap used EVs should it depreciate greatly, I'll gladly pick a good one, like a used Zeekr or Xpeng or maybe even Tesla. That would drive used ICE cars down too, if my last used car buyer were correct, things were already looking bad for them with ICE cars price keeps on falling.
Great sharing, this is so cool
Soulless maybe but wooo I love the way it moves and it's like a quarter of the running cost to go to work and back 😂😂😂😂😂 winner winner 😊😊
I bought a Nissan leaf, it's a great city car. I'm anticipating when more of these cheap Chinese EVs actually arrive in NZ. You are driving an Xpeng, but Xpeng are not sold in NZ yet. Problem is that new car sales volume here is 1/20th of Oz. Most people buy Japanese cars exported used - they're cheap, low km and a bargain. But very limited used EV options ex Japan.
That said, I will never buy another ICE and planning to replace our ex-Japan Toyota Wish (people mover) when an affordable EV alternative is available
Home "fuelling"; fewer/no fluids leaking onto the roads, and into waterways
I have only owned a model y for 2 weeks and I am never going back. As a matter of fact I am getting the refresh model y next year and then won’t have any ice vehicles 😊
If EVs are so great then why do they depreciate so much?
thats a dumb way to rate cars........That business model is obsolete in so many ways.
@andyfreeze4072 Why? Because it doesn't benefit the EVs?
Good question. They depreciate like that because people are afraid of battery degredation. What people don't realize is that modern EVs have batteries that will almost always last ~15 years or and longer. The issue has been that non-Tesla brands have sometimes used crappy batteries in the past, and the media has had a field day with it, while getting paid by Big Oil to do so. The reality is, in almost all cases, a used EV is a great choice, and an incredible bargain because it's "depreciated" so much. Battery Management Systems are so good these days that even supercharging (or it's equivalent) all the time doesn't really do much to batteries anymore. The batteries are fed exactly what they can handle.
1. Batteries will continue to be cheaper.
2. Some EV companies are waging a price war by lowering prices so much without any regard for those who have already bought them, which has also caused second-hand prices to fall.
@@shannon6876 Surely thousands of buyers are all misisnformed and unintelligent. Surely it's not the inferior cars which are the problem. Surely.
What happened to the used EV batteries that get thrown away?
If you are throwing away the battery you are wasting the battery because it still has enough power to drive home appliances.
@eish3291 No, when the battery gives out
Disposable junk is what these gadgets are
The raw materials inside are too valuable to dispose of... your narrative is about 5-7 years out of date.
@@thewolf9851 rubbish. You've gone woke
So if EV's are so good, why are the customer satisfaction surveys and warranty surveys on EV cars being reported by the likes of What Car and CarWow and others?
These surveys showing high failures with the EV's.
Brands such as Jaguar I-Pace where jag had to buy back some 2000+ vehicles from owners, and other high warranty issues from Mercedes on their EQ series. Also the massive Jeep EV quality issue with recalls in the 10's of thousands in the USA.
Not all seems to be roses.
The world is not America. EV success void of politics and misinformation that is rampant in USA paints a very different picture. In markets where EVs are measured on there merits the adoption is higher and proven much different from the propaganda spread in USA
ice cars have recalls as well, but they have had a 100 years head start. As evs evolve, they will have less problems. The jag used a battery that did not work in other brands as well. The latest tech is much more robust.
He is talking about Chinese EVs, not those small brands like Jaguar Mercedes JEEP, they are junks.
@@jackoneill28 MG EV's in UK were two of the 10 worst performing cars for satisfaction surveys in the UK in 2024 according to What Car report some 2 months ago. MG ZS EV and MG 4EV see link attached . Jeep and Jag are less than acceptable and Mercedes and the Porsche EV terican did not perform all that well in recent warranty results. Chinese car makers do not release warranty data and there are failures and poor warranty reports for the Chinese Tesla vehicles sold in Aus. it is not all sunshine and lollipops. Much more performance data needs to be released to help make an informed decision as style and looks don't make it a quality product - reliability and performance does. and Jag after all is owned by Chinese manufacturer and they make the EV units and controllers and batteries in the Jag. ruclips.net/video/fnfp6dCL4oE/видео.html
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf I agree all brands have warranty issues ICE and EV. and the Poor performance and warranty data needs to be made aware for the Chinese brands also. that info is not published by Chinese car makers. There re good and bad from all origins. EV's are not all fault free. EVs of MG ( ZS and MG4 ) were 2 of the worst performing vehicles in the UK in 2024 ruclips.net/video/fnfp6dCL4oE/видео.html
In Germany, 25-30% go back from EV to ICE.
specs please.
That's still very low since they screwed up their own energy market big time.
yeah u can only support the industry so much until it goes busts.
source please
@@TerryHickey-xt4mfWhat specs?
I'm only at 0:25 but I just can't help myself:
I hope there's a "once you go B, you don't go back" joke/pun/reference in this video!
That would be awesome 😃
As Fat Bastard once said, "once you go Fat you never go back"
We don't even have electric cars to buy here, and those that exists are like 40-60k+ euros which is crazy. Europe needs 10-15k cars that go over 600-700km.
Who, in their right mind, would regress to combustible vehicles?
UK Zapmap survey now in its seventh year, the survey attracted 3,746 respondent, fewer than 3% of EV drivers stated they missed their internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle and wanted to switch back.
Incomparable.
Some very early adopters of EV's, with the original Leaf and Bolt, have gone to hybrids as the range and tech in those EV's was pretty lame, however, people buying EV's over the past few years, will almost never go back to oil cars (OV's). I haven't patented OV, feel free to use it. :)
Can't admit they regret buying them
I rent them when I travel. Have a trusty RAV4 at home. Can’t afford to switch yet. I find myself lamenting the wasted energy of braking and my driving is insanely smoother because I’m annoyed at wasting energy and having no regen etc. lol
This is worldwide you understand, not red county Texas.
I won't go back to ice for my car. I still have a 300cc gas dual-sport motorcycle, as e-motorcycles aren't ready yet.
EVs are overpriced. Then there is the insurance. Too expensive.
Finally, Australia has too many SUVs and pickup trucks. Where are the small electric cars? Why? Greed. Big cars big profits.
the insurance on my EV is cheaper than my hybrid.
I was like you, bitched everything ! The main problem is your ability to learn or change ! You can find a good insurance, ice cars a way overpriced when you ad gas and maintenance over 15 years ! Bought an ev and I am so impressed its designed for the driver not like ice cars to get to the dealer and buy nonsense fossil junk.
Gasoline is overpriced... the car I bought new for US $27K has had US $50K worth of gasoline put into it. I could buy a new Model Y and replace the battery in 10-12 years and be money ahead.
@ exactly I had a 27k Toyota matrix for 20 years put how know $ in gas and now I have a Tesla model Y. 🤡
I went back..... and I hate it!! (To my defense the car I returned at lease termination was a 2014 Nissan LEAF)
My Porsche 928 has a 23 gallon fuel tank and gets 25 mpg on the highway that's over 500 miles highway range and takes 5 minutes to fill up has a top speed of 165 mph 0-60 in 5.7 seconds and keeps appreciating in value and since I know how to fix ICE cars, I'm sticking to it for now unless EV prices drop. I can drive non-stop from San Diego To Las Vegas without needing to stop half way to charge and wait in line at a busy fast charger.
A here we have an example of someone who still thinks his ICE car gives his tinky winky more length.
That's why he drives a compensation car like a Porsche 928.
it doesn't do that and in fact talking about it makes you instantly recognizable as a tiny tinky winky man.
@@TheGalantir not cool try more tackful like facts not insults
you maybe right but until you come across a issue that does not allow you to keep driving it. e.g. engine, trans etc. where cost to repair is no longer cost effective, yes it is almost a classic but not for a daily runner. but also suggest look at some of the conversions been done with the classics. but suggest moth ball it and just get a EV to keep the running cost down and to put money way for restoration
@@RayJohnson1980So what about when an EVs battery and engine stop working?
Oh nice. an ICE driver who gives an example of an ICE car that isnt like 99.9999% of ICE cars out there and lose money every month.
I think i will listen to this example and apply it to my own life and expect the same results. ......Not.
If we have roughly 20m cars on our roads in australia and only sell around 1m cars a year that means 20 years to replace our cars with ev's maybe more as not all those 1m cars are evs
not many people look at this detail.
Transitions don't work that way.
Hopefully that replacement will never happen
The average age of vehicles in Australia is less than 12 years.
If "go back" means "fully stop using EVs", I think it's understandable why they don't "go back".
If "go back" means "not stop using EVs, but still using ICE cars sometimes (e.g. on very long distance trips, or having to travel with person who hate EV or fear EV fire/explode/short-circuit)", then I believe that there will be more people who "go back".
I bought a used 2015 Prius V. It had only 38 k miles and will probably drive another 200 k miles no maintenance. I paid only 16,500. Oh get 45 -50 miles per gallon . It’s quiet and very zippy and hauls everything. Not all those computers that these electric cars have that I’m sure will eventually break . I do like the style and comfort of someone the designs but I’ll wait and see how reliable they are first. Don’t fool your self , if your driving on the road your breathing in all the same fumes .
I’ll never go back to an EV
I don't know of the percentage is correct. But if ex-EV owners go back to ICE, it's probably because of range and charging. Takes too long to charge, esp. if one has to make a lot of long distance trips. This is if one has expectations similar to the ICE-gas-station experience.
I own an EV. Wouldn't go back to ICE, because it drives like crap, by comparison. Don't have home charging. It took awhile to get use to a new lifestyle. Now charge at a shopping mall, while I do my shopping. Sometimes it's nerve racking when the stalls are full. Sometimes it's a bit of an adventure to try out new EVgo stations at new shopping mall. (Know my options.). But it's an issue if one doesn't have home charging. Though I've finally gotten use to it. It's workable. But I can see how this can be a barrier for some people.
You could not pay me enough to go back to a gas car. Slow. Gross. Expensive.
I've had many cars during my life time from many manufacturers and in my mind there is no comparison between ICE and EV's, Ice cars are the past EV's are better in every way
This is incredibly misleading to say the least. Here's how the data was collected: they only surveyed people who were members of the "Global Electric Vehicle Alliance" or their "collaborating partners". They then extrapolated "weighted" this data according to population of each country, operating on the assumption that it is representative of Joe Public. I shouldn't need to say this but people who are EV owners club members are more likely than average to have a positive attitude towards the technology, in other words it is a selection bias.
Perhaps next they could survey coal miners to see what % of the "public" supports coal power plants?
I subscribed to you because you appeared more balanced and intelligent in your analysis than most but this is either lazy reporting or willfully misleading on your part- did you even read the study?
Oops, seems relevant facts being ignored here - Again.
I scanned the comments to see if anybody had gotten there first. These are very enthusiastic folks to join a club. The GEVA "study" is in its way as FUDsy as the McKinsey thing with 46% of US owners going back to ICE (when Tesla loyalty alone is above 90%). Or the one with half of EV trade-ins at "dealerships" going back to ICE. Tesla and Rivian don't have normal dealerships for one thing. We can argue over 1 or 46%, but neither passes the smell test. My guess is 80-90% of owners will still own an EV in ten years.
We're in a post-truth age and it's gonna take us down without a little common sense.
Not surprised in the slightest, if I could home change then I would have an EV and wouldn’t look twice at ICE. What needs to happen is fix it so that people like me where in first floor flat and parking space other side of road can get domestic rate charging.
At the moment then either
1.) two journeys to supermarket and leave car there to charge up at 44p a unit and walk back home whilst charges and then go collect afterwards. - not happening
2.) stop off at fast charger on the journey. More expensive then ICE as 79p at local fast charger and still have 15-20minutes stop to charge.
I work from home so no destination charging at work.
Was out with friend in his cupra EV and could not tell the difference. As the noise in the cabin in my car is Road and Wind Noise not the noise from the engine with modern sound dampening.
Refuelling the car is don’t drive around the petrol station on way out of the supermarket after shopping.
I drive 0 miles to refuel and is the 10minutes tops to refuel.
Range of cars not a problem.
Time to charge (not a problem if could charge at home)
Charging network not a problem in UK if using to top up when out and about,
The biggest obstacle to EV adoption is if someone can easily charge or not at home.
If you can charge at home is a no brainer to do EV, unless have some extremely niche requirements.
You will need to stop for your body before run out of battery range and at least here in the UK then the charging network is pretty good on major routes so finding a charger to top up if you cannot out and back on your charge from home.
Sadly is an area that nobody is looking to actually fix
I did, well from my Chevy Volt PHEV. Was hoping to keep it and save for a decent EV but it broke, so I bought a used Audi A3, I'm still saving for an EV, EV's are expensive and I don't want to be in debt with a loan or lease, a used Taycan is the plan.
In urban indoor parking and charging or warm climate with charging infrastructure as long as they don't spontaneously fire, fine. Rural to suburban, hybrid only. We all know the EV nightmare for everyone not in hivemind 😮
Because they are so expensive you can't afford to go anywhere nevermind back😢
Go back to ICE?
From a purely personal point of view, why would I opt to go from 2 pence per mile to 20 pence per mile?
I'd have to bedaft to do that.
This goes for average drivers, the enthusiasts will have a totally different outlook on this. I personally like to drive good performance cars. Ev or ICE… whatever
ICE only appeals to poor kids, or old people who still want to hear a rumble.
a bit fewer than old people who think fondly of manual transmissions
..Maybe that’ll never go back to an ICE ‘cos they can’t afford to…. They’ll be paying for their electric car for the next 6 or 7 years. By the time they’ve finished paying, electric cars will be all that’s available!
I've never been in an EV, let alone drive one and I totally agree with you. I'll never buy another ice car. 😂
The Zeekr 001 isn’t available in the uk, what is a shame as I do like the looks and spec on that. I am seriously considering buying my first EV next year, what will most likely be a used Tesla Model 3.
Never ever. I want more EV's. 😂
They can’t go back cause they’re underwater in their loans
I can never go back to ICE. Everytime I drive my wife’s new Kia Carnival I live the space but man driving a gas engine is so slow and so clunky. The pure acceleration that EVs provide is unlike anything gas cars can offer. No engine in the world is as smooth as an EV.
If everyone is so happy with their EV then why are so many user reviews negative?
You don't need to own an EV to write a review.
@philiptaylor7902 I'm talking about the reviews of EV owners. Written by them, about cars which are owned by them.
Australian EVs are defective. They are not Cybertrucks.
Is it wise to import all these EVs into Australia when Australians are purchasing more Hybrids than EVs? Sales of Hybrid cars in Australia have charged ahead of demand for electric vehicles (EVs), reflecting a global trend that has seen major car makers scale back their EV production targets.
After years of exponential growth, sales of electric vehicles in Australia are faltering, achieving only 7.6 per cent of total car sales from January to August this year, according to data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) and the Electric Vehicle Council (EVC). Australians purchased 129,895 Hybrids in the first nine months of 2024 compared to 82,961 Electric Vehicles.
Car makers have observed slowing demand for EVs around the world, particularly in the United States, which saw sales of hybrids grow five times faster than EV sales in February this year.
EV sales will eventually exceed Hydrids and ICE cars, but this won’t happen until battery technology improves and at present, this is not happening to any great degree.
Let's not forget all those tail pipe emissions poisoning your family.
How is it that EV sales are dropping so much if so many people love them and don't want to go back to ICE cars?
how is it?
Its called delusional people say it.
Ev sales dropping is only a fantasy for people in the engine spare parts industry.
If you think that EV sales are dropping, keep taking the tablets, or try turning the chart the right way up.
@philiptaylor7902 They are dropping. If you think they're not I suggest getting your eyes and/or brain checked
@@thewolf9851 Any news can be fabricated these days. If it says what you want to hear you will believe it.
@@philiptaylor7902No what these people are saying. After years of exponential growth, sales of electric vehicles in Australia are faltering, achieving only 7.6 per cent of total car sales from January to August this year, according to data from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) and the Electric Vehicle Council (EVC). Australians purchased 129,895 Hybrids in the first nine months of 2024 compared to 82,961 Electric Vehicles.
هذا كلام صحيح
عندما تشتري سيارة كهربائية تتخلص من الرائحة الكريهة الغاز السام الذي يخرج من العادم وتتخلص من تغير الزيت المزعج ومن أعطال المحرك الكثيرة ومن الذهاب إلى محطات الوقود الديزل أو البنزين
لان لا يوجد وقود مجانى في البيت
الشى الوحيد الذي ستفقدة سرعة تعبئة الوقود في اقل من 4دقائق إذا كنت في رحلة طويلة لكن مع الوقت سرعة الشحن ستكون أسرع من ما يوجد في الوقت الحالي
Electric cars have plenty of their won problems. And the smell of regular card is not unpleasant. It's quite nice.
@thewolf9851 السيارات الكهربائية ليس لديها عادم يخرج منه غاز سام 😂
Because they can't get a sensible offer for the milk truck that they still owe 40,000 on so it's the bus or bankruptcy.
Never ever going to EVs
When there's nothing else to buy, we'll come back and see if you're walking instead.
Had EVs for over 12 years and their is no going back for me now and people with ICE vehicles don't know what they are missing out on. I will correct that, one thing you can get from a ICE vehicle which you can't get from a EV is Lung Cancer from tail pipe Emissions and I know what you are saying, it won't happen to me but if it does it's too late.
Very well spoken n frank. Ya fully agreed on BS from Yankee vblog 😂👍
My electric car is brilliant. 1000 miles for £14 on Octopus energy Intelligent Go tariff. So smooth, quiet and powerful. No visiting the fuel station. Preheated on the cold frosty mornings. No way would I give this up and go back to a mechanical piston engined car.
This "fake news" talking point has been debunked! Most people stick with EVs...
On a planet where the population is aging rapidly, electric cars have an enormous defect which slows down their sale, it's the fact that their on-board computer screen keeps changing regularly. Older people (who have the money to buy Teslas) like stability and use their car to go from point A to point B. They hate to see their on-board computer screen changing because they are afraid of computers. They are like that and nobody will change that.
To increase the sale of EVs, Tesla for example should offer to its customers the option to ¨freeze¨ the on-board computer screen for the lifetime of the car.
First, only the most essential elements should appear on the computer screen and those elements should be extremely similar to what we see on the dashboard of a gasoline car.
Second, any improvement Tesla sends by radio to the on-board computer should remain hidden if it's not essential to drive the car.
Third, if somebody has modified the computer screen for whatever reason, there should a ¨reset¨ button on the computer screen to bring back the permanent display I am talking about.
Somebody should tell Tesla.
Better get rid of screens and computers cars don't need them
@@djt8518 no, enjoy living in god's waiting room. Stop talking as if everyone is like you.
@@andyfreeze4072 if everyone was like me it would be a much better world
I wonder what EV owners think of their car when their battery performs worse simply because it's cold outside 😂😂😂
They love EVs in Norway! You do know ICE vehicles struggle in very cold weather?
Imagine the poor people that still drive Nissan LEAFs....
I may see a 20% loss in range on very cold days, not enough to worry about.
@kentyler3962 Imagine losing 20% of your car's capacity and being so c*cked that you accept that and just say "it's no big deal, just 20%!". I thought EV owners couldn't get more pathetic but you proved me wrong. Kudos.
I went from a Ford Ranger XLT to a Model 3 2024 and ill never go back. Once the other car we have, an old BMW, get too expensive to maintain, we will switch that out for an EV as well. I'm hooked, got solar and a 7KW EV charger installed, loving the ecosystem.
Are you aware of how much EVs depreciate and how expensive they are to maintain?
@@thewolf9851 I am new to this, tell me what your experience has been.
@MelbHusTLA What experience?
And those people are lying to themselves and to those around them.
Less than 5% of Americans own an EV.
That's slowly changing. It's a few more percent this year.
Considering model 3 and y are best selling cars the % will increase a lot
If the Chinese EV offerings were readily available in USA the % adoption would ramp up hugely.
@@sunrisejak2709 exactly.
@@sunrisejak2709B Patriotic. Ur Country's Automotive sector must never ever go Bankrupt. Im from India. An ev enthusiastic & Specialist .
I drive an EV but my sister hates them, she told me that she doesn’t even want to sit in one. When I asked her why she told me they are too quiet! What? Apparently she hates them because they might run over deaf people. I didn’t argue with her, but maybe I should have reminded her that our deaf brother drives an EV! 😂😂😂
Never go back to fossil junk.
then why too many failures during cold weather
batteries have evolved, the latest gen can cope with the cold.
If you want to believe that batteries fail and cold weather, then you should research it a little more about what the real problem was human air or the batteries lack of understanding or the batteries there’s a lot of research out there on RUclips that will be very accurate and will satisfy anybody that wants to know the truth the truth is that batteriesare not hurt by cold weather.
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf last year was a disaster in the USA during winter
I wouldn't go back to internal combustion, or a steam engine for that matter. I'm an Armature Man....!
Sam, it sounds like you’re asking people to make money-saving, practical decisions. Folks who are considering purchasing an EV need to ask questions of people who have owned an EV for over 90 days, but they shouldn’t make a decision based on some random form online.
This "Over 50% of EV drivers won't buy an EV for their next car" rubbish that's ben bandied about is entirely down to multicar families happy with the EV they have but wanting to get a hybrid to replace the other car so that long trips won't be a worry. Such hybrids would be run on batteries 80-90% meaning that gas would only cover less than 5% of driven mileage.
It's great that they can wait to charge, they are not afraid of electric fire/explosion/short circuit, they are not afraid that the "digital car" may have bugs, errors or glitches while driving or before driving, and they are not forbidden from having EV by their families.
So much wrong here to unpack!
The 1% that have said they will next buy an ICE car, probably drive the crapy Toyota BZ4X EV 😂
or maybe the hydrogen crap
Or maybe they have a working brain 😂😂😂
Great video Sam, keep the good news coming.
I can't go back to petrol/diesel. My only concern was long-distance trips but it wasn't an issue afterall. It turns out the furthest I can drive before I need to stretch my legs is about 4 hours. As long as there's a supercharger every 4 hours I don't care about the range.
Why would you not be able to go back?
@@thewolf9851 It's like going from a rotary phone to an iPhone. The rotary phone has some nostalgia but I'd never want to use it again. The whole experience of an EV is just so far advanced it makes the old technology look laughably obsolete. I don't go to petrol stations anymore. I don't worry about "warming up" the engine. I don't have to get the engine serviced. The car doesn't vibrate when I'm stopped. It doesn't make any noise. It accelerates effortlessly. It even steers itself. Dinosaurs stuck in the past might lament the loss of the engine "roar" but you know what, I don't miss it. I'd rather listen to my music anyway. If I want to hear a V8 engine I can just put a Spotify song on that plays V8 engines noises. I don't miss it in the slightest.
Petrol engines are just so stupid. Once you go EV you realize how dumb we've been, clinging to this ancient nonsense technology from the 1800s. It's just incredible how stuck in the past some people are. The EV is so good. I can't go back.
@nhand42 EVs are just so stupid.
Imagine having to wait an hour for your car to "charge" 🤣
Imagine worrying about the temperature outside because your car might not go as far if it's cold 😂
Imagine complaining about the vibrations of a regular car 😂
Imagine being and owning a car that will lose 80% of it's value in just a few years 🤣
Imagine listening to speakers just to hear the sound of an engine 😂
Imagine being so unintelligent that you need your car to drive itself because you can't 🤣
Imagine thinking you're saving the environment by driving an inferior vehicle which actually pollutes the environment even more 😂
Imagine the only good thing about your car being fast acceleration 🤣
Imagine that 😂😂😂
@nhand42 Was reading your comment again and I truly hope you were being sarcastic
@@thewolf9851 I get it, you're a dinosaur who hates EV and dumps on everyone who likes them, but you'll come around eventually. Everybody will.