A different way of adding power and spin to your forehand

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024

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  • @oneminutetennis
    @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

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  • @musarra195
    @musarra195 2 года назад +7

    I would absolutely add Cerundolo to the list of effortless power and I attribute it to a loose elbow. I think you are spot on with this insight. I’ll focus on this tomorrow

  • @jayakin2650
    @jayakin2650 2 года назад +23

    Great video, with a creative take on the loose arm. Another way of finding and using the loose arm is to "throw the racket" at the ball. Similar to skipping a stone, our body already subconsciously knows how to relax the arm and use the kinetic chain correctly when doing that type of a throwing motion.

    • @johnholdsworth1878
      @johnholdsworth1878 2 года назад +1

      Brilliant analogy

    • @mxbrnl
      @mxbrnl 2 года назад +1

      At last an analogy that makes perfect sense! thank you! 🤘

    • @Johnstage
      @Johnstage Год назад

      Taken directly from TPA Tennis, right?

  • @arnauddepouilly6281
    @arnauddepouilly6281 2 года назад +1

    the looseness of the arm and wrist as a by-product of elbow looseness. it is a mind-blowing finding. Many thanks for sharing this.

  • @jonatanskrinjar2185
    @jonatanskrinjar2185 2 года назад +3

    Actually it's all about the first point. The elbow on the outside. That's the crucial part and that allows the racquet head to be dropped behind the body (looking from the side perspective, not behind looking at it from the front) which creates kind of delay and therefore a great acceleration. A very good explanation.

  • @alastairtheduke
    @alastairtheduke Год назад

    Steve, you've done it again. I tried this the other day and the power that comes from this instantly added 10-20% power on my forehand with less effort than I was putting in before. Yes, I was last accurate and shanked a little more, but with practice, I think this is going to be the new way I hit my forhand. Thank you!

  • @fatunga1
    @fatunga1 2 года назад +2

    A brilliant insight. Thank you, Steve. I used to focus on straightening my arm before contact, but you've allowed me to see that that was my way of turning the elbow out and that I was missing the crucial relaxation part. So now instead I focus on a loose arm, a soft grip, and guiding the butt cap toward the ball. The result looks similar but feels different, and it's much easier and more consistent. For some reason, this makes my fingers want to spread out on the grip, which seems like a good thing.

  • @michaelking4578
    @michaelking4578 2 года назад +1

    I played for years up until I graduated from college. At 30 I picked up tennis again and had this loose relaxed motion and my forehand became a monster shot. Also similar thing happened with the topspin backhand.

  • @Dhtdhrtv
    @Dhtdhrtv 2 года назад

    What a brilliant instruction !! It is inclusive of lagging by guiding butt towards, whipping, topspins by scrubbing upwards, enhancing power by using core, natural use of loose and etc.

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

      Thanks for your kind words.
      Glad your enjoying the channel.
      Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
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  • @jasonloeb331
    @jasonloeb331 2 года назад +1

    Very clever and intuitive way to check for relaxation. With students I will keep 2-3 fingers off grip as they shadow swing and then hit the ball..
    Will try this technique as well!

  • @ray3499
    @ray3499 Год назад

    Great tip … also we can use the non dominant hand (left) for right handed players to hold the racket during take back

  • @JamesDavisakaRemguy
    @JamesDavisakaRemguy 2 года назад

    I believe I once goofed around with something very similar to this as a teenager. I was actually concentrating only on *bringing my hand forward in a straight line* to intercept the ball's trajectory while *letting the racket head loop (downward and then up) all on its own.*
    This, when coupled with a semi-western club grip, unconsciously produced a straight-armed, automatic stroke - quite possibly with the relaxed elbow you describe here - ultimately yielding (or do I mean 'wielding'?) the fabled, oft quested, "effortless power" and extreme topspin of Arthurian legend.
    Thank you very much for this lesson. Once again, I find your observations truly original and insightful, and ultimately very helpful - THANK YOU!

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

      Thanks for so many kind words.
      I love the fact that so many people seem to be benefiting from my ideas.
      It's a real privilege to help players reach their potential.
      Have a great day
      It's great that your enjoying the site.
      www.oneminutetennis.com

  • @ripleypipe
    @ripleypipe 2 года назад

    As always, you make the complex simple Steve, I shall try this as, for experimentation, I've had my racquet strung tighter than usual. Many thanks, Gordon.

  • @simongreen7415
    @simongreen7415 2 года назад

    Excellent tip again. Gave me much more spin and control on my forehand. Many thanks.

  • @somethingsisee
    @somethingsisee 2 года назад

    I totally agree with this style of hitting. All the tension and grip it and rip it mentality should go into early, bouncing, dynamic footwork in order to take the proper court position. Then the swing can be effortless.

  • @gerardovitaliani9318
    @gerardovitaliani9318 2 года назад

    You surprised me! I thought it would be another ground force masterclass, but never on the elbow. Thanks I'll try.
    💪🎾

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

      Glad your enjoying the channel
      Please let me know how it goes?
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  • @darrensurrey
    @darrensurrey 2 года назад +2

    I worked this out after practising tai chi for 20 years. 😅

  • @tennfunn6332
    @tennfunn6332 2 года назад

    Thanks for the tip...you always find a component that I've never discovered t🎾

  • @vladimirgetselevich4704
    @vladimirgetselevich4704 2 года назад

    I think by opening your forearm you closing it at the contact with the ball and it enables to use bigger muscles than just wrist to control the brush of the ball which should give greater stability during the shot.

  • @ericbrabander
    @ericbrabander 2 года назад +1

    Isnt it the contact point much in front that is responsible for the elbow going out and be loose in order to hit the ball ?

  • @christopherlowe4129
    @christopherlowe4129 2 года назад

    This was so helpful!

  • @ruggierojerolli
    @ruggierojerolli 2 года назад +1

    Coach Steve also another guarantee - thanks to you - of an inside out elbow-arm which is I'd say one of the 3 or 4 key factors for a sound forehand is an awesome tip you gave some days ago.
    That was in your vid about trusting/ keeping or adding topspin in pressure situations that is your tip of keeping or forming an extended wrist (avoiding neutral or flexed position) by just visualizing the fist pointing to the back fence instead of thinking of the racquet position, etc.
    I wanted to give you my feedback on that past vid after at least 7 or 10 hours of practice ( I'm in the 3rd) but now that you're here in the inside-out arm shape of the fh stroke I noticed:
    1. It's true what you affirm. It assures that the extended wrist forms with more than enough time before even fast or heavy balls giving you a lot of confidence to brush effectively the ball almost anticipating that it will land in. That's awesome coach!!!
    2. Just about the fatal and very well known shortcoming of tucking in the elbow or that it goes involuntarily inside-in at certain or many balls (my issue):
    Well with this new trait-tip I can notice that this prevents the elbow-forearm from going inside-in BECAUSE having an extended wrist since the very beginning of the takeback kind of holds or lags a fraction of a second (but so paramount) your shoulder from anxiously rotating inwardly. I mean that wrist in extension seems to make your shoulder rotate outwardly, also pulling outside your elbow bone point - practically and naturally blocking any cramming or that it goes to the torso. You also feel you true centrifugal force in the inside-out arm. (Adding a bit of conscious involvement of the big rear shoulder muscles increases this sensational feeling. I mean try to feel them moving, working to impact the ball).
    3. The best result for not losing rhythm and elastic energy, thus ball speed when performing your tip is avoiding to "pre form mechanically" the wrist extension but doing it just at the moment you feel you're in the "farthest" part of the takeback.
    4. Even though 3 is the ideal, I've noticed that when relaxation is not enough (eg in a match) and you consciously look for the wrist extension - maybe untiming the stroke making it say kind of less fluid than it should or a little stiff - even so you impart strong spin. Maybe not so accelerated but with at least enough height that reassures you (I) this time won't hit the ball out like before because of anxiety or nervousness situations.
    In a nutshell: Great coch!!

    • @maxiv8744
      @maxiv8744 2 года назад

      What is muscle elastic energy ?

    • @ruggierojerolli
      @ruggierojerolli 2 года назад

      @@maxiv8744 This concept is widely used. But before getting into it, look for some slowmo of Carlos Alcaraz and eg say Dusan Lajovic, Pablo Carreño Busta or James Duckworth though there are many.
      I guess the minute you compare them you'll notice for yourself the difference between brutal elastic energy and normal, pretty average.
      Elastic Eneegy in tennis in its peak is to develop a secuential and continuous motion in which the body transfers its inertial energy directly to the ball in a very short period of time.
      To get it to the max everything must be accomplish like in a perfect dance though more complicated than that because the ball is always coming at you translating it better into a perfect dance with sudden rhythm shifts.
      Now in tennis that perfect dance must utilize 2 others pillars: The Kinetic Chain (KCh), obviously the most proper one where in here is the practical concept of SSC (Stretch Shortened Cycle) of key muscles. Look for it.
      Hence Elastic Energy is just the product of

    • @maxiv8744
      @maxiv8744 2 года назад

      @@ruggierojerolli Thanks a lot for the explanation. Although it is quite difficult to understand. The expression "elastic energy of muscles" sounds like muscles are rubber band. But muscles are not rubber band, and they do not work like rubber band. That is why I asked this question.

  • @raufbaba4419
    @raufbaba4419 Год назад

    Elbow drop. Thanks Steve

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  Год назад

      Glad your enjoying the channel.
      I try to provide a view and perspective that is different and creative.
      Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
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  • @robertocfaguiar
    @robertocfaguiar 2 года назад

    Awesome, the wizard strikes again.

  • @bournejason66
    @bournejason66 2 года назад

    Interesting idea. Will give it a try

  • @Ben-ml8ke
    @Ben-ml8ke 2 года назад

    Amazing insight wow !!!!!

  • @bournejason66
    @bournejason66 2 года назад +5

    I do notice that if you search pros still images at contact, it is hard to use “relax” to describe them. Try Iga or Carlos and look at their facial expressions, their muscles bulged, their hand holding the racket…. If we are receiving Carlos or Rublev’s forehand, can we really use a loose, relaxed wrist to absorb their shots? Would love to get your take on that. Thanks in advance

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад +3

      Hi Jason, your 100% correct.
      The arm will tense up enormously on contact. Every time.
      But.
      Look at those same players at the beginning of the stroke.
      And there is huge looseness. Huge relaxation..
      It's like a car crash.
      Great acceleration and then a little bit of stress at contact🤔😂
      Does that answer your question?

    • @bournejason66
      @bournejason66 2 года назад

      @@oneminutetennis thanks for your reply. I’ll need to think about it further. I get your points 90% I believe. 🙏👍🎾

    • @dennisblokland9717
      @dennisblokland9717 2 года назад +6

      @@bournejason66 That’s because you don’t have 100% of what is going on ;) Let me fill in some of the blanks. The looser your grip, the more effective your racket is. And you never have to be afraid of loosing your racket, because of the spindels in the muscles of your underarm. The functionality of these spindels in your can be used for the desired effect by just trusting this magnificent feature of your body. You already experienced it in many ways, when you stretch a muscle and the opposing muscle is relaxed it will prevent it from overstretching. Spraining your ankle, running, the knee which is moved with the little hamer from the dokter. But only when it is relaxed! And the reaction time is 30 millliseconds because the electrical signal is direct from the muscle. Would it be directed by the brain this would be 120 milliseconds and being to slow. Injuries would happen and rackets would be flying 🛸 So how to apply this? Take what Steve said and bring your hand with your racket high, very relaxed because they are carried by the non-dominant hand. Let them fall and as soon as you feel gravity coming into the swing at force from the leg that is behind and that can give you the power from the ground, preferably with a little squat/bounce just before. This will give you all the power and spin you wish. Anything that you would like to add is counterproductive to the power you just generated with your most powerful and biggest muscles. Enjoy the feeling! If you want to know more let me know 😁😁😁

    • @ruggierojerolli
      @ruggierojerolli 2 года назад

      @@dennisblokland9717 I find it quite interesting and anew. I'd like you develop the idea in a practical way or also other ways to explain it to catch it!

    • @bournejason66
      @bournejason66 2 года назад

      @@Johnstage thanks for taking the time to reply. I see where the 6” idea is coming from but I also am not sure I can control the forward swing phase 6” before contact. I guess you mean it’s our natural instinct that we will tighten it up right before contact? And I guess you’d Disagree with Steve’s latest video which he suggested to intentionally hit off center to get more top spin? For rec players I think it’s much better to copy WTA players. Most of them have the wrist already in laid back position in take back, then just forward swing and held the wrist until contact. It’s an easier way to copy IMHO.

  • @itsmeforsure5475
    @itsmeforsure5475 2 года назад

    I equate a loose grip to a flying racquet. The pros do seem to generate so much power from their swing. When I've watched the videos of Roger & Raf practice, it seems like they hit the ball harder in practice than matches.

  • @kadivikram
    @kadivikram 2 года назад

    Great way to achieve ESR(External shoulder rotation)

  • @xyzzyx5209
    @xyzzyx5209 2 года назад

    Decontract-contract is kind of analogy with centre-decentre for vision (eye-sight) isn't it, Steve? Also, for the former, if not properly maneuvred, it might negatively impact the grip by changing it at contact (it sometimes happens to me). Thx for the insight of the elbow's role.

  • @kevinle5460
    @kevinle5460 2 года назад

    Great channel, subbed

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

      Glad your enjoying the channel.
      Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
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  • @awangsafrisafri476
    @awangsafrisafri476 2 года назад +1

    Feel the lostness of the elbow

  • @thephysicaltherapycentre7422
    @thephysicaltherapycentre7422 2 года назад

    Where are these courts? They look nice.

  • @igorsalinovic4914
    @igorsalinovic4914 2 года назад

    If I am not mistaken, Rick Macci teach the opposite, that yoor arm/elbow should never go to the outside during the preparation..

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

      I think this is simply an interpretation of Rick's use of the word outside.
      The only reference I've seen him make to this is when he's talking about going inside the line of his body.
      I'll be surprised if he contradicts this...
      Every pro does it and I've never seen Rick teach anything other than the technique of the pro players.
      Does that make sense? It's great that your enjoying the site.
      www.oneminutetennis.com

    • @igorsalinovic4914
      @igorsalinovic4914 2 года назад

      @@oneminutetennisoh I understand now, he is talking about keeping racquet on hitting side of the body - Inside?

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад +1

      Exactly..
      But thanks. It's a great point and I love Rick Macci, he was ahead of his time.
      I would be very surprised if my ideas contradict him.
      Have a great day
      Steve

  • @jamesa7997
    @jamesa7997 2 года назад

    I'm confused. In the first of the video you talk about turning your elbow from outside to inside. That feels like you are loading your arm with pronation. Is that correct?

  • @johnholdsworth1878
    @johnholdsworth1878 2 года назад

    The problem with this video is the trajectory of the racket head. The extreme low to high action undermines replicability and consistency. The low to high/above the shoulder finish doctrine taught for decades defies physics and is responsible for more errors and inconsistent forehands than anything else. If you watch modern players particularly ones with great forehands e.g Rublev, Alcaraz, Berrettini etc the trajectory of the swing is flatter circa 15 to 20 degrees. So the secret of a great forehand is a semi-western grip, loose arm, straight take back, fast windscreen wiper finish (throw the racket head at the ball). This leads to more power (flat hard topspin) and greater consistency (less overhitting).

  • @rucas10
    @rucas10 2 года назад

    Precious tips Steve !

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

      Hi,
      I don't understand. Are you saying I've mentioned this before?
      If so, in what video please?
      I try very hard not to be repetitive and this video is the first video I've made in some very new ideas I have.
      Let me know please.
      It's great that your enjoying the site.
      www.oneminutetennis.com

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

      Thank you. Sorry. I totally misread it..
      I'm getting old I think.
      😳

    • @rucas10
      @rucas10 2 года назад

      @@oneminutetennis
      Steve, this message was probably not for me!?

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

      No. It was. I misread your first message. I thought you said previous tips.
      I was answering messages quickly and I didn't read correctly

    • @rucas10
      @rucas10 2 года назад

      @@oneminutetennis
      Me too Steve !
      I turned 60 in Abil, curiously on the day of the extraordinary Charlie Chaplin, 04/16, and it already hurts me here and there and the memory is not what it used to be. On the other hand, we gained in other aspects: maturity, experience and wisdom.
      It's important to keep a young spirit and I can't complain about that. There are people who at 40 years old let themselves get old, and others who at 80, 90 remain young.
      It's a matter of attitude towards life, which remains beautiful in later ages, as long as we do something about it.
      In short, we're fine Steve!
      Have a great day my friend !

  • @junyun6447
    @junyun6447 2 года назад

    Good tutorial on how your arm can stay loose. Same principle as Taichi. Stay loose, then your arm will strike like a whip.

  • @twinwankel
    @twinwankel 2 года назад +2

    Thanks Steve. The easiest way to see if your arm is loose is video your forehand and if you get the snap and lag on the forward swing, you have a loose arm. Or some ppl can sense this themselves. It's really not hard.

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад +2

      Hi Wally,
      I think you maybe in the lucky group of people who find relaxation when hitting easy.
      Moist people find it very difficult.
      It's like when a good skier sees people inching their way along the nursery slopes in a ski resort. And they say "just go with the flow"
      It's easy for them.
      But not for everyone

    • @darrensurrey
      @darrensurrey 2 года назад

      @@oneminutetennis Yes, you have to be very aware of what your body is doing and most people (even sports players) are not really aware of their body's movements. It's only because I teach somatics that I'm aware of everything that's going on as I play tennis.

  • @tenniswithric
    @tenniswithric 2 года назад

    Love it, going to give it a try on court this week

  • @ruggierojerolli
    @ruggierojerolli Год назад

    Pinned it as a FAVORITE Steve!!

  • @quentincrisp6933
    @quentincrisp6933 2 года назад

    Interesting concept however finding that looseness in the elbow is almost impossible. I would concentrate on the whole arm being more loose than the wrist/hand

  • @at1838
    @at1838 2 года назад

    I second the “skipping a stone” image

  • @thitran9637
    @thitran9637 2 года назад

    Great analysis and advice, thank you.

  • @levleung2000
    @levleung2000 11 месяцев назад

    all you have to remember is: all power comes from the body, all controls come from the hand and wrist.

  • @counsela9240
    @counsela9240 2 года назад

    Interesting 🤔

  • @Alastairtheduke1
    @Alastairtheduke1 2 года назад

    Being that the elbow is so relaxed, does this necessitate the straight arm forehand (federer, verdasco) as opposed to a bent arm forehand (djokovic, murray)?

    • @MikeHammerForEver
      @MikeHammerForEver 2 года назад

      Not really. The concept applies to both. However; It’s.harder to relax while hitting it with a straight elbow but Federer proves it can be done.

    • @Alastairtheduke1
      @Alastairtheduke1 2 года назад +1

      @@MikeHammerForEver I find it easier to relax with a straight arm, because if I let my arm completely relax, it goes straight

  • @alexandern4140
    @alexandern4140 2 года назад

    wow

  • @dominicpaul8460
    @dominicpaul8460 2 года назад

    👍

  • @davelee6002
    @davelee6002 2 года назад

    Whose forehand looks more effort full than alcaraz's? Can't be that many. It seems pretty tightly wound. Djokovic's forehand seems to be a way better example. Murray and Monfils are great examples too

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

      Hi Dave,
      I actually would have agreed with you.
      But I'm very lucky.
      Where I live, I get to watch pro players any day that I want.
      I went over to watch Alcaraz practicing with feliciano Lopez and Pablo Montana.
      In real life, although he makes a huge grunt... The stroke is so, so smooth.
      It's actually amazing to see.
      That's why I included him.
      Hope that makes sense.
      Glad your enjoying the channel.
      Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
      www.oneminutetennis.com

    • @davelee6002
      @davelee6002 2 года назад

      @@oneminutetennis oh, very interesting! I'd definitely defer to your firsthand experience then. I've been struggling with my serve toss for a couple of years now, and definitely watched your videos on the topic. I like what you've done in coming up with innovative tricks to help get the feel for the right technique. Keep it up!

    • @oneminutetennis
      @oneminutetennis  2 года назад

      Thanks...
      Your the only person who has made this point.
      But it's very astute. I was amazed how different Carlos appears when watching from court side compared to watching on TV.
      I'm going to make another video with some new ideas on the ball toss in the next few days.
      I hope that it helps.
      It's great that your enjoying the site.
      www.oneminutetennis.com