How to use the wrist for more power (Centrifugal Force)
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In todays session we show you how to increase racket speed on the forehand by using centrifugal force and the wrist.
In practice this is good advice, just conceptually it's more of a forearm action than the wrist. You don't want to push the ball but not slap the ball either, you want to puch it. Same on serve and backhand
Although what constitutes a slap vs. a punch is difficult to demarcate, if you were to use a punching analogy I think the most accurate comparison is a jab. The best jabs are loose and fast.
I agree with you. It should not be like a slap. Although Brerrettini and Kyrios forehand does resemble to a slap.
Almost every 100mph plus Forehand has this slap like motion and very little use of the body.
It's hard to comprehend.. but it's what happens
@@oneminutetennis can you comment on in this case, what’s the wrist position at contact? Is it not laid back? Also, the slap like forehand is still rare. I wouldn’t put Alcaraz or Federer’s in the slap category. Do you agree?
Yes I totally agree that the slap like Forehand is very rare.
But it is interesting to try to understand.
The wrist position at contact is extended, but in varying degrees depending on how far in front the contract with the ball is
But this contact should not be examined too much as it then results in over thinking and therefore, kind of, mechanical strokes...
Does that make sense ?
Simply a beautiful analysis coach!! ... esp part from extension to neutral (not wind shield wiper) to hit thru the ball, and that deflectionplays no part of the forehand.
Awesome advice, best tennis channel I have seen so far.
Fantastic lesson, thank you🎉
i think players like nadal are even going over neutral position due to the grip. I explain flexion and extension to all my players. going fast from extention to flexion makes even happen the pronation and ISR more natural because of the circular motion of the racketpath.
Wow! Tomorrow I'm implementing this tip, in my mind sounds easier to perform than the swipe movement
I do, now i have it confirmed, honestly my game improves by 30 percent.
Understand your teaching, the lower handle is the centre point of the swing, the racquet face is on the outer circle and it’s multiplying swinging speed.
Steve, for a normal forehand, that centrifugal force you are implying happens well after contact. The extension you are talking about occurs because you are hitting in front of you and you really don't have a choice but to extend out with your racket if you do this. Most players do not hit in front enough and so they do not exhibit this extension. In some cases, there might be some wrist flexion during contact. This occurs when you are slightly away from the ball and you want to want to hit a flatter ball. Otherwise, wrist flexion does not occur during contact.
Hi Wally,
I mostly agree with you..
Centrifugal force definitely occurs after contact.
But if what happens after contact does not effect what happens in contact... Could we not simply stop at contact, when we hit the ball?
Either the follow through influences the contact, or it doesn't! And if it does, then whether the centrifugal movement being post contact or not is less relevant.
What do you think? Do you think that what happens after contact does not effect the ball?
Because that is what I understand from your post.
Thanks once again for a thought provoking comment
@@oneminutetennis Hi Steve! I'm very happy for another great video of Yours! You can apply your own words to it: "thought provoking." There are many aspects, a lot can be said, but I will only say about "follow through". I think that first of all we need to figure out for ourselves whether it is done intentionally, muscularly, or is it just a conscious movement by inertia? And if this is a movement by inertia, then - whether we like it or not - it begins immediately after the end of the lightning phase of contact, and is a consequence of the ballistic movement of the hand and racket, which began BEFORE the contact.
Of course, It is possible to stop, hold the hand and racket "immediately" after contact. But it will cost us, firstly, constant huge muscular efforts, and secondly, not the reliability of control over the speed of the hand and racket on contact, because we'll have to "press the brake" long before contact.
But in general, I think that the method of hitting described by you is one of the many "correct" hitting methods that can be the main one in the game, or designed to solve certain game tasks.
With best wishes to You!)
Am I getting this right in terms of centrifugal force....Because from the time the buttcap is facing towards the target, to the point where the butt cap is facing the hitting player, that distance is much smaller than the traditional windshield wiper where the buttcap travels in a rainbow motion across the players body, that short distance coupled with fast acceleration, is what achieves that centrifugal effect explained in the beginning?
Always like your videos mate. Keep it up!
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Would you consider doing a video on technique changes to consider for different arm injuries? I’m suffering from golfers elbow and have heard that injury is most technique related…would love some thoughts about what to consider changing to help it. Thanks for all the videos!
I don't have golfers elbow but I have tennis elbow and suspect that it is caused by late preparation on my one handed backhand drive. So I work on getting turned and coiled early so that the larger hip and lower body muscles are driving the stroke, instead of being late and "arming" the shot.
Hi Raul,
Two of the doctors, local to me send their tennis elbow patients to me.
Can you either'
Send me a video of your stroke.
Or.
Let's arrange a zoom call.
I'm on oneminutetennis@gmail.com
I'm sure I can help
@@oneminutetennis This is so true. Doctors should be sending their tennis and golf players to good coaches
Nice video! Congrats. Please make another considering role wrist to 2 hand backhand. Hugs
If you watch a figure skater on ice they accelerate their spin on an axis by drawing their arms and legs inwards hence reducing their moment of inertia. when they want to slow down from a fast pirouette they extend their arms and legs outwards. Tennis players can use this same principle when hitting a forehand, backhand or their serve. When you serve you extend and then tuck in your wrist a for a smaller moment of inertia and your racquet will automatically accelerate. A child on a swing uses the same principle when they bend their knees, which makes you swing faster,
Which is why I always hate the two minute tennis mantra of "catch your racket with your opposing hand". NO, I don't want to catch my racket, I want my extended non-hitting hand to be pulled into my hips. But it also creates a bit of a conundrum of what to do with your racket...you need to pull it in (ideally) to generate head speed but in doing so you are creating mechanical problems for your non perfect levers (aka your shoulders and elbows).
As an addendum, this is why a closed stance is ideal for generating power. It allows you to pull your arms and racket in to generate speed and then use that speed to extend out with the racket after. If you are hitting open stance you can't pull in as much, and if you are trying to crank it you had better be hitting crosscourt and you should be hitting it as late as possible!
can any of your really useful advise be used for my two handed forehand(Gene Mayer style)
Great video! One comment - I think you perhaps have an audio problem with the microphone. I hear little rattle sounds every time you speak, like someone has a tiny maraca by the microphone. Just something to think about!
This is brilliant
At contact, what’s your wrist position?
Totally brilliant
Thanks, very good instruction. Can this be applied to the one handed backhand?
Hi.
Great question, yes. But I think it needs to be clarified.
The pivotal point of the one handed backhand is different to the Forehand and the two handed backhand.
I'll make a video on this asap
Thanks.
I have the same question as it applies to a two-handed backhand.
I have the same question as it applies to a two-handed backhand.
Where does a windshield wiper fit in with this tip? It would seem that a WW finish requires the racquet head tip to be pointing roughly upwards at contact and just after contact whereas this tip requires the racquet head tip to be pointing roughly towards the net at contact and just after contact. The two finishes do not seem to be compatible with each other.
Thank you!!!!!!
Can we apply this to the one handed backhand as well?
good ... like
How do you avoid the racket becomes unstable in your hand if you loosen up your wrist?
Hi Danny,
It's a marriage of racket speed and contact position.
If the contact is in the middle, the racket will be stable.
But if the contact is off centre the racket will still be stable if the racket speed is sufficient.
It is only possible to achieve this racket speed unless the wrist is relaxed.
Does that help and make sense?
Glad your enjoying the channel
Please let me know how it goes?
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Does it mean you “snap your wrist” through contact? How do you stop the wrist from going into flexion at the end of the stroke?
He's good but I'm still confused as well. I get wrist pain when I try lag. It's probably bc im an old dog and used to the old way
Hi Simon,
It's actually easier than it seems.
The key is to create a neutral position from extension.
Because that happens as the racket reached the limit of how far away from the body you can swing.
Flexion is unnatural. And the recoil becomes extension again.
It's easier to do than it is to explain.
Glad your enjoying the channel
Please let me know how it goes?
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@@JamesWang007 Don't try to lag, the lag happens when you relax and accelerate fast.
Does this tie in with an earlier video you made about pushing your shoulder through as you swing forward?
Hi.
Yes, today, I'm only talking about the role of the wrist.
The shoulder moves forwards in a smooth linear motion.
Glad your enjoying the channel.
Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
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@@oneminutetennis Hi Coach! Enjoying your channel! Any chance you can make a video on backhand volley put aways, especially high ones (some players can smash them nicely)? Thank you!
Everything is okay, but what you call centrifugal force should be named the force of inertia. In physics, the centrifugal force doesn’t exist: there exist the centripetal force and the force of inertia. Thank you!
Thank you!🎉
I am suffering with wrist injured at the pinky side from twisting my wrist in wrong motions. I happened from time to time and it gets worse. I think it caused by late hitting with the ball. How could I stop doing this wrong twist further than try to prepare the swing early??
Hi,
Do you have a video of the stroke that causes you distress?
If so, can you send to oneminutetennis@gmail.com
I'll try and help.
Good luck
Hey it sounds to me like you’re straining your tfcc joint. You need to be careful because an injury of that type can you keep out for at least six months. Most likely you’re either holding the racket too tightly and rotating your wrist towards the ground causing the pain.
I am recovered now, thanks a lot 🙏