It's been working but inconsistent. Sometimes it kicks out and sometimes it just jumps up. Sometimes the pace slows down and sometimes it's on fire coming in lol. Just needs more reps I think. Thanks again!
You are a true teacher! It’s hard to believe how a single person can come up with so many novel ideas to reinvent teaching a decades old game… This channel deserves ten times as many subscribers and views. I guess many people don’t yet know this gem exists…
orsom .It"s a great thing to have the same balltoss for all serves . Makes everything much easier and disgues what serv is comming . Servtoss is a problem (even for Iga Sweat.) so having different tosses for a learner or even experint player is really a problem. Bedst from Copenhagen Denmark
I sort of agree with you. But. What I show here is a great way of telling the different swing paths. I also think that it's a combination of where the racket begins AND where it finishes that determines the spin. Thanks for a great and informed comment. Glad your enjoying the channel. Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know www.oneminutetennis.com
@@oneminutetennis I've been wondering about the role of the abdominals on the serve, or the role of the core in general. It seems to me that if you need to lean back without bending the back, then the abdominals should be playing a key role, but no one I know talks about it w/r/t the serve.
I have a similar question and concern. With a continental grip and the handle finishing in front of your arm, you will hit the ball with the racquet frame, or back side of the string. I think the only way to hit the ball on the front side of the string bed is to pronate or with a wrist flexion. Right?
George Bernard Shaw said "I really do believe you. I just divide by two to allow for your enthusiasm!" I think if you attempt this swing path, you will end up with the correct one, which is close. But not quite how I describe it. Does that make sense Glad your enjoying the channel. Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know www.oneminutetennis.com
Your assured insights and demonstrations really resonate with me Steve. Thanks and well done for creating this unique, stand alone tennis channel. Gordon
Thanks I'm very lucky. I'm drawing off hundreds of ideas from when I had my own academy. I wanted to create an environment of learning and creating. So every week I put up a €100 prize for the best new idea. If my idea was the best, I kept the money😄 But it meant that we were all trying to find new and better ways. I've got so many other ideas to share. It's exciting. It's great that your enjoying the site. Thanks for the kind words www.oneminutetennis.com
All I need now is a video graphic memory. So many clutch tips taking my game to a much higher level. If you could have seen the look of embarrassment on my opponent's face last night Steve you'd know what I mean. Thank you!!! 🙂
Perfect timing! I was looking for a video on high margin second serves. Of course the Alcatraz Kick has me inspired to improve mine. If you could augment this tutorial with where exactly you’re aiming the brush the ball that would be ideal: My understanding is slice you’re looking to hit the ball towards the side, around 3:00. Kick it’s behind the ball. Wrist/mind mapping is quite tedious. I lack an acute awareness of what the wrist is doing on serve, sometimes it’s too open leading to hitting long. Focusing on where to hit the ball is essential until muscle memory has developed.
Thank you, Sir. I will try to apply your instruction for my practicing and I hope it will work well. Can you make a video how to serve to different corners of the serving box?
Interesting training technique. Swinging up and out is what I considered to be the “proper“ technique. But it seems, as a training tool, you are promoting up and in?
Hi Steve, great advice, though I'm a little confused. On the topspin serve, are you pronating your wrist on ball contact, and so much so that the palm of your right hand is actually facing sideways and away from you towards the sideline? If so, I think this was a trademark of the Sampras kick. And I'm not sure how much pronation you're doing on the spin serve. Trying to pick up your wrist action is a little to view on the mobile phone. Maybe you could do this again with with a little closer visual of your wrist action on both serves. Thank you.
Hi Thomas, That's a good idea. I'll wait a couple of weeks so it isn't too repetitive and do exactly what you suggest. Glad your enjoying the channel. Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know www.oneminutetennis.com
@@oneminutetennis Thank you for the courtesy of a prompt reply. Constructive and meaningful dialogue with your viewers is important and very much appreciated. It's almost nonexistent with other instructors. Keep up the great work.
My humble opinion about the slice serve you showed will have players cultivate bad habits. You showed your first serve at the start of the video, isn’t slice serve simply to pronate less so your racket face hit the ball with an angle and hence slice serve? Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks
Hi I actually don't understand you message. The slice serves often have zero pronation. If the player gets good at it. Then ordination occurs naturally. But it doesn't begin with pronation. That's like running before you can walk. Have I misunderstood. Or does this answer your question?
@@oneminutetennis let’s talk about the end goal for a second. Are you saying even pros, when they serve slice they don’t use pronation? And what’s your definition of pronation? Maybe it’s good to clarify it for viewers and me. Thanks 🙏
But Jason, you are talking about pro players. When I introduce the video I explain that this is about learning the swing path of the spin serve. I don't think that many pro players will benefit from a lesson on learning the swing path of a spin serve! First you learn the shape Pronation is a bi product of the correct initiation of the stroke. I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear enough at the beginning of the video. But this lesson is not aimed at pro players who need help learning the slice or topspin serve swing paths .
@@oneminutetennis ok thanks for clarifying it. I’ll think about it more. I used to do my slice serve the way you showed. It has a lot of spin but no pace. I’m wondering if you have an exercise or ways to incorporate both spin and pace. Just like your forehand videos. Thanks.
I'll make a video on this. But to try and help now. Usually when players get slice yet no speed. They are slicing with the arm and the wrist is fixed. Try the little exercise I show to free up the wrist and then hit your normal slice. It might work. Let me know please
So does Andy Murray. People who insist that pronation is essential in the slice serve love to ignore that some pros don't do it. Ignoring the lack of pronation. How good is your slice?
Just tried it with a couple of shadow swings with my racquet. Incredibly useful tool in identifying the correct swing path for each of these spin serves. Nice work, yet again.
Thanks.. I've been playing with the idea of how to get a physical reference to the swing paths. This has been super successful with the players I've shared it with. Glad your enjoying the channel Please let me know how it goes? www.oneminutetennis.com
Nice video. As a beginner, I did use flexion and this hurt my wrist after awhile and I stopped when I learned the proper technique which is to "pronate". I use a little ulnar deviation but that happens after contact. In general, the wrist is one of the weakest joints in the kinetic chain and you want to minimize the use of it. That's why I pronate my entire arm and use the bigger muscles in my shoulder.
My experience is that if shown correctly the movements naturally develop into pronation. Your right, of course, this is meant to show players who are new to making spin on the serve his to create these effects. Flexion is interesting, I've used it and taught it to vary the flight of the kick serve and never encountered injury issues.. I'm not saying there are no issues, I just don't know if them, in my limited experience. Thanks for your great contributions
@@oneminutetennis I don't have the strongest wrist and I started with the pancake grip which I had to use flexion to get power. As much as coaches hate it, It worked very well but I did feel strain on it. And the second serve was always problematic. (It was easy to serve aces with it.) So I had to switch to the continental, and develop a proper serve. I'm glad I did, cos I can serve a countless number of serve without tiring. I do think your exercise has merit. Good to get a feel of the strings during the second serve.
That’s a slice serve action without pronation and not really a top level service motion. And both tips are wrist-based and the wrist shouldn’t be the driver of the action. Trying to control a serve with the wrist is inconsistent and can cause injury. The action should be the whole arm and the wrist will naturally do what you want if you get the arm motion correct
You are right But. Have you tried the exercises? The elbow movement and to a lesser extent the shoulder happen automatically as a bi product of the movement I show. I don't mention this because I don't like over complicated teaching and I sometimes feel that coaches explain too much. It doesn't help the player at all. Hope that this makes sense It's great that your enjoying the site. www.oneminutetennis.com
This is the best visual explanation there is! Amazing how you can keep coming up with instructions that give the same results! *standing ovation
Glad your enjoying the channel
Please let me know how it goes?
www.oneminutetennis.com
It's been working but inconsistent. Sometimes it kicks out and sometimes it just jumps up. Sometimes the pace slows down and sometimes it's on fire coming in lol. Just needs more reps I think. Thanks again!
You are a true teacher! It’s hard to believe how a single person can come up with so many novel ideas to reinvent teaching a decades old game… This channel deserves ten times as many subscribers and views. I guess many people don’t yet know this gem exists…
Thanks, that's a great tip. Wish I had it years ago when I played in high school & college.
orsom .It"s a great thing to have the same balltoss for all serves . Makes everything much easier and disgues what serv is comming . Servtoss is a problem (even for Iga Sweat.)
so having different tosses for a learner or even experint player is really a problem. Bedst from Copenhagen Denmark
IMHO, both spin serves will have the handle come out behind the arm. It's where the racquet ends on follow thru that determines type of spin
I sort of agree with you.
But.
What I show here is a great way of telling the different swing paths.
I also think that it's a combination of where the racket begins AND where it finishes that determines the spin.
Thanks for a great and informed comment.
Glad your enjoying the channel.
Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
www.oneminutetennis.com
@@oneminutetennis I've been wondering about the role of the abdominals on the serve, or the role of the core in general. It seems to me that if you need to lean back without bending the back, then the abdominals should be playing a key role, but no one I know talks about it w/r/t the serve.
I have a similar question and concern. With a continental grip and the handle finishing in front of your arm, you will hit the ball with the racquet frame, or back side of the string. I think the only way to hit the ball on the front side of the string bed is to pronate or with a wrist flexion. Right?
George Bernard Shaw said
"I really do believe you. I just divide by two to allow for your enthusiasm!"
I think if you attempt this swing path, you will end up with the correct one, which is close. But not quite how I describe it.
Does that make sense
Glad your enjoying the channel.
Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
www.oneminutetennis.com
Great lesson. You just made hitting the spin clear and easy. Hats off to you!
Glad your enjoying the channel.
Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
www.oneminutetennis.com
great tips! I'm going to practice this.
Your assured insights and demonstrations really resonate with me Steve. Thanks and well done for creating this unique, stand alone tennis channel. Gordon
Thanks
I'm very lucky.
I'm drawing off hundreds of ideas from when I had my own academy.
I wanted to create an environment of learning and creating.
So every week I put up a €100 prize for the best new idea.
If my idea was the best, I kept the money😄
But it meant that we were all trying to find new and better ways.
I've got so many other ideas to share. It's exciting.
It's great that your enjoying the site. Thanks for the kind words
www.oneminutetennis.com
Great tips I will definitely try them
Nice teaching cues, thank you, sir!
Thank you very much for sharing coach. Enjoy your time. Lots of love from Bali.🌞🌎🌛
Glad your enjoying the channel.
Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
www.oneminutetennis.com
All I need now is a video graphic memory. So many clutch tips taking my game to a much higher level. If you could have seen the look of embarrassment on my opponent's face last night Steve you'd know what I mean. Thank you!!! 🙂
Excellent suggestions - can't wait to try both
Fantastic Steve!!! you always find a new or diferent explication for solutions our play. Tank´s a lot
Glad your enjoying the channel
Please let me know how it goes?
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Brilliant explanation of swing path for serve variations - best I have seen. many thanks!
Hi Cameron
Glad your enjoying the channel.
Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
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Absolutely genius
This is exactly what I needed to see thx!
Perfect timing! I was looking for a video on high margin second serves. Of course the Alcatraz Kick has me inspired to improve mine.
If you could augment this tutorial with where exactly you’re aiming the brush the ball that would be ideal:
My understanding is slice you’re looking to hit the ball towards the side, around 3:00. Kick it’s behind the ball.
Wrist/mind mapping is quite tedious. I lack an acute awareness of what the wrist is doing on serve, sometimes it’s too open leading to hitting long. Focusing on where to hit the ball is essential until muscle memory has developed.
Hi.
Have you seen this video
ruclips.net/video/CMRb51_UCxU/видео.html
It may help
Great coach very clesr !!!
Thank you, Sir. I will try to apply your instruction for my practicing and I hope it will work well. Can you make a video how to serve to different corners of the serving box?
Yes. I'll make one asap
Glad your enjoying the channel
Please let me know how it goes?
www.oneminutetennis.com
Interesting training technique. Swinging up and out is what I considered to be the “proper“ technique. But it seems, as a training tool, you are promoting up and in?
Hi Steve, great advice, though I'm a little confused. On the topspin serve, are you pronating your wrist on ball contact, and so much so that the palm of your right hand is actually facing sideways and away from you towards the sideline? If so, I think this was a trademark of the Sampras kick. And I'm not sure how much pronation you're doing on the spin serve. Trying to pick up your wrist action is a little to view on the mobile phone. Maybe you could do this again with with a little closer visual of your wrist action on both serves. Thank you.
Hi Thomas,
That's a good idea.
I'll wait a couple of weeks so it isn't too repetitive and do exactly what you suggest.
Glad your enjoying the channel.
Do you have any other tennis issues that I could help with? If so let me know
www.oneminutetennis.com
@@oneminutetennis Thank you for the courtesy of a prompt reply. Constructive and meaningful dialogue with your viewers is important and very much appreciated. It's almost nonexistent with other instructors. Keep up the great work.
Man, this one is hard
Glad your enjoying the channel
Please let me know how it goes?
www.oneminutetennis.com
My humble opinion about the slice serve you showed will have players cultivate bad habits. You showed your first serve at the start of the video, isn’t slice serve simply to pronate less so your racket face hit the ball with an angle and hence slice serve? Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks
Hi
I actually don't understand you message.
The slice serves often have zero pronation.
If the player gets good at it.
Then ordination occurs naturally.
But it doesn't begin with pronation.
That's like running before you can walk.
Have I misunderstood.
Or does this answer your question?
@@oneminutetennis let’s talk about the end goal for a second. Are you saying even pros, when they serve slice they don’t use pronation? And what’s your definition of pronation? Maybe it’s good to clarify it for viewers and me. Thanks 🙏
But Jason, you are talking about pro players.
When I introduce the video I explain that this is about learning the swing path of the spin serve.
I don't think that many pro players will benefit from a lesson on learning the swing path of a spin serve!
First you learn the shape
Pronation is a bi product of the correct initiation of the stroke.
I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear enough at the beginning of the video.
But this lesson is not aimed at pro players who need help learning the slice or topspin serve swing paths .
@@oneminutetennis ok thanks for clarifying it. I’ll think about it more. I used to do my slice serve the way you showed. It has a lot of spin but no pace. I’m wondering if you have an exercise or ways to incorporate both spin and pace. Just like your forehand videos. Thanks.
I'll make a video on this.
But to try and help now.
Usually when players get slice yet no speed.
They are slicing with the arm and the wrist is fixed.
Try the little exercise I show to free up the wrist and then hit your normal slice.
It might work.
Let me know please
His intro is so annoying with the "Ladies and Gentlemen please take your seats etc..."...I thought I have another tab open or something haha
I'm having trouble completing full pronation on the slice serve
So does Andy Murray.
People who insist that pronation is essential in the slice serve love to ignore that some pros don't do it.
Ignoring the lack of pronation.
How good is your slice?
@@oneminutetennis getting better now after I saw your "soccer throw in" video .. and the "right arm passes the left" advice ...thanks coach
This is genius... cant wait to try on court
Brilliant!
That s an very easy and effective way to feel the different swing paths of slice and kick.... Congrats.
Just tried it with a couple of shadow swings with my racquet. Incredibly useful tool in identifying the correct swing path for each of these spin serves. Nice work, yet again.
Thanks..
I've been playing with the idea of how to get a physical reference to the swing paths.
This has been super successful with the players I've shared it with.
Glad your enjoying the channel
Please let me know how it goes?
www.oneminutetennis.com
First again 👍😊
Nice video. As a beginner, I did use flexion and this hurt my wrist after awhile and I stopped when I learned the proper technique which is to "pronate". I use a little ulnar deviation but that happens after contact. In general, the wrist is one of the weakest joints in the kinetic chain and you want to minimize the use of it. That's why I pronate my entire arm and use the bigger muscles in my shoulder.
My experience is that if shown correctly the movements naturally develop into pronation.
Your right, of course, this is meant to show players who are new to making spin on the serve his to create these effects.
Flexion is interesting, I've used it and taught it to vary the flight of the kick serve and never encountered injury issues..
I'm not saying there are no issues, I just don't know if them, in my limited experience.
Thanks for your great contributions
@@oneminutetennis I don't have the strongest wrist and I started with the pancake grip which I had to use flexion to get power. As much as coaches hate it, It worked very well but I did feel strain on it. And the second serve was always problematic. (It was easy to serve aces with it.) So I had to switch to the continental, and develop a proper serve. I'm glad I did, cos I can serve a countless number of serve without tiring. I do think your exercise has merit. Good to get a feel of the strings during the second serve.
Fantastic tips & thx
Prince
That’s a slice serve action without pronation and not really a top level service motion. And both tips are wrist-based and the wrist shouldn’t be the driver of the action. Trying to control a serve with the wrist is inconsistent and can cause injury. The action should be the whole arm and the wrist will naturally do what you want if you get the arm motion correct
You are right
But.
Have you tried the exercises?
The elbow movement and to a lesser extent the shoulder happen automatically as a bi product of the movement I show.
I don't mention this because I don't like over complicated teaching and I sometimes feel that coaches explain too much. It doesn't help the player at all.
Hope that this makes sense
It's great that your enjoying the site.
www.oneminutetennis.com
this setting is beautiful! where are you guys located?
Hi. This was shot in Italy. I made videos this year I'm Italy, Spain, USA and Thailand.
It's a hard life having to visit these places😉