“Elbow Snap” I love, love, love how this channel rewrites the language of tennis. For many of us who still struggle with basic concepts this is invaluable.
This is one of the best service motion explanations I’ve ever seen. This also exposes any mobility issues (which I certainly have). Sampras’s motion is an extreme example of this motion done properly
Thanks for clarifying how to pronate properly. I am guilty of keeping my wrist tight while using “shoulder power”. This correction makes a lot of sense. Can’t wait to try this.
Funny how without instruction you can train your brain to do exactly the wrong movement. Steve unless you hadn't made this video I'd be making the wrong movement through the pearly gates. I'd never ever* have understood you swing from the elbow so counterintuitive yet I've heard the you're throwing the baseball analogy a 100 times.!!!??? Superb attention to so many tiny yet imperative details. You keep bringing so many huge improvements to my game the mind boggles Steve thank you so much! I'm nursing rotator cuff injury and over pronation I'm sure has aggrivated the injury. This swinging from the elbow I'm hoping will get me away from excessive pronation, will let you know! The drill is very encouraging to be sure I'm doing things correctly. Once again thank you for your comprehensive instruction Steve confidence levels are through the roof! Get back to you. 🙂 👊🇨🇦😎
As often the case there was no time to do drills yet, just play Steve. So I swung with the elbow impromptu. The confidence gained knowing how to replicate the best kinetic chain is inspiring. The consistency that eluded me for decades is finally within reach. Such an innocuous tip, yet the results are remarkable and with more practice I really feel confident I'll be pulling into the ball. Instead of swinging with the arm or wrist I'm on that road to improvement to be my very best. It's also way easier on the shoulder keeping maintenance manageable. Thanks Steve, I'm stoked coach! 🙂👍
@@750ml yes I jammed up a 6'5“guy with pronation, never knew what hit him. Yes actually! Less pain doing it right just get really picky on your toss in fact get anal about it. The toss is the boss, miss hit it can mean injury, but flowing power so stealthy so rewarding and yes pain free. Be a toss nerd, study the ball as you swing, can't go wrong 🎾🇨🇦
@@750mldid that answer identify your question appropriately? Not as easy as Steve makes it look I found but he is the Pro after all. So compact his swing consequently a lot more to unpack than meets the eye. That scythe angled racket leading up to the toss is also very key. Racquet speed is the Holy Grail these days 🤔 Hope this helps 👋
Such a complete explanation of the FEELING of this movement. Curious, I've seen the drill where you stand in the service box and serve into the service box across the net. This is similar, but different. Is the requirement of getting it across the whole court testing that enough power went into the stroke?
Steve, nice video. From my experience, you cannot have a loose wrist throughout the serve. Pronation and ulnar deviation occurs and so one must use wrist muscles which forces a tighter grip at contact.
Hi Wally, you are 100% correct.. But, 😉 It's not too relevant, except from a scientific aspect. Because that tightening and strengthening occurs in the totally subconscious stage of the stroke. If you think about it, the tightening occurs earlier.... Bad If you don't think about it, the tightening occurs... Good If you don't think about it and the tightening doesn't occur (and rarely, but this happens) the racket flies out of the hand.... Funny😉 Does that make sense? Once again thanks for your insightful support of my very new channel. Have a great evening Steve
@@oneminutetennis The same is true with ground strokes, of course: you need to be coached to stay loose through the 95% of the motion, but you will naturally and reflexively firm up at contact. Looseness contributes to racquet head speed. But momentum, which is what you want to impart, is mass times velocity. If you didn't 'firm up' the mass in this equation would be merely that of the racquet and your own body weight would make no contribution.
Hi! Excelent video, how you can traslate to the spanish the “elbow snap”, i am not sure if i understand it well, i think that its like a throwing motion but stopping the elbow Thank you
Hi Leo, Although most people don't recognize what I am describing. This stop, or reverse of the elbow is perfectly natural. Every baseball pitcher, every good tennis server... All of the people that are good at throwing do this. And the energy created with this stop, doesn't stay in the elbow. It flows from the joint forwards.. Does that make sense? Glad your enjoying the channel Please let me know how it goes? www.oneminutetennis.com
Hi. It's about levels. For the flat serve, this movement is applicable for all levels. For the slice serve, if the motion is not totally natural, then learning the swing path is better with no pronation And then add it develops, we can add the pronation. So this does apply to slice, but only to pretty advanced players. Does that make sense? And thanks for a great and informed question
@@oneminutetennis thanks. This was the answer I’m looking for in my question to your slice video. I’m glad you clarify it. If my understanding of slice serve is correct, the difference between flat and slice is just the degree of pronation at impact. Do you agree with that? Thanks for clarification. 🙏👍
It’s also the swing path, which is slightly more to the right (towards 45˚ but (usually) not that far). Also the ball toss/contact may be further to the right for some people. But yes the primary difference is less degree of pronation at contact.
Hi Chotto, This wasn't my racket, but it's totally irrelevant where the dampener is in training. The rules only apply to tournament. And I actually try to avoid phrases such as IFR etc. This is about teaching, not confusing people and demonstrating how much knowledge we have. If we ask the 10,000 people or so who will watch this video over the next few weeks whether turn or IFR is easier to follow. I think a small majority will prefer the simpler description. Does that make sense? And thanks for an interesting comment
“Elbow Snap” I love, love, love how this channel rewrites the language of tennis. For many of us who still struggle with basic concepts this is invaluable.
This is one of the best service motion explanations I’ve ever seen. This also exposes any mobility issues (which I certainly have). Sampras’s motion is an extreme example of this motion done properly
yes I was thinking Sampras thru the whole video.
Thanks for clarifying how to pronate properly. I am guilty of keeping my wrist tight while using “shoulder power”. This correction makes a lot of sense. Can’t wait to try this.
Funny how without instruction you can train your brain to do exactly the wrong movement. Steve unless you hadn't made this video I'd be making the wrong movement through the pearly gates. I'd never ever* have understood you swing from the elbow so counterintuitive yet I've heard the you're throwing the baseball analogy a 100 times.!!!??? Superb attention to so many tiny yet imperative details. You keep bringing so many huge improvements to my game the mind boggles Steve thank you so much!
I'm nursing rotator cuff injury and over pronation I'm sure has aggrivated the injury. This swinging from the elbow I'm hoping will get me away from excessive pronation, will let you know! The drill is very encouraging to be sure I'm doing things correctly. Once again thank you for your comprehensive instruction Steve confidence levels are through the roof! Get back to you. 🙂 👊🇨🇦😎
As often the case there was no time to do drills yet, just play Steve. So I swung with the elbow impromptu. The confidence gained knowing how to replicate the best kinetic chain is inspiring. The consistency that eluded me for decades is finally within reach. Such an innocuous tip, yet the results are remarkable and with more practice I really feel confident I'll be pulling into the ball. Instead of swinging with the arm or wrist I'm on that road to improvement to be my very best. It's also way easier on the shoulder keeping maintenance manageable. Thanks Steve, I'm stoked coach! 🙂👍
How did that change work for you? Are you seeing better consistency & results and/or less injury?
@@750ml yes I jammed up a 6'5“guy with pronation, never knew what hit him. Yes actually! Less pain doing it right just get really picky on your toss in fact get anal about it. The toss is the boss, miss hit it can mean injury, but flowing power so stealthy so rewarding and yes pain free. Be a toss nerd, study the ball as you swing, can't go wrong 🎾🇨🇦
@@750mldid that answer identify your question appropriately? Not as easy as Steve makes it look I found but he is the Pro after all. So compact his swing consequently a lot more to unpack than meets the eye. That scythe angled racket leading up to the toss is also very key. Racquet speed is the Holy Grail these days 🤔 Hope this helps 👋
Very insightful Steve, can’t thank you enough for having learned so much & improved my tennis in technical & scientific manner thru ur channel
Epic, serve is the weirdest shot in tennis these are the types of vids most needed particularly on the arm action. Great stuff
Love it! What a brilliant progression!
Thanks! Great post. Gorgeous location! Where was this filmed?
Great drill. Great lesson. Great channel
Such a complete explanation of the FEELING of this movement. Curious, I've seen the drill where you stand in the service box and serve into the service box across the net. This is similar, but different. Is the requirement of getting it across the whole court testing that enough power went into the stroke?
Steve, nice video. From my experience, you cannot have a loose wrist throughout the serve. Pronation and ulnar deviation occurs and so one must use wrist muscles which forces a tighter grip at contact.
Hi Wally, you are 100% correct.. But, 😉
It's not too relevant, except from a scientific aspect.
Because that tightening and strengthening occurs in the totally subconscious stage of the stroke.
If you think about it, the tightening occurs earlier.... Bad
If you don't think about it, the tightening occurs... Good
If you don't think about it and the tightening doesn't occur (and rarely, but this happens) the racket flies out of the hand.... Funny😉
Does that make sense?
Once again thanks for your insightful support of my very new channel.
Have a great evening
Steve
@@oneminutetennis The same is true with ground strokes, of course: you need to be coached to stay loose through the 95% of the motion, but you will naturally and reflexively firm up at contact. Looseness contributes to racquet head speed. But momentum, which is what you want to impart, is mass times velocity. If you didn't 'firm up' the mass in this equation would be merely that of the racquet and your own body weight would make no contribution.
@@joepalumbo5340 but the point is you don't form of, as in your mind or brain doesn't form up, your body does naturally
@@leokovacic707 Exactly
Hi! Excelent video, how you can traslate to the spanish the “elbow snap”, i am not sure if i understand it well, i think that its like a throwing motion but stopping the elbow
Thank you
I love the football throw concept, but isn't it dangerous for the shoulder to stop the elbow like that?
Hi Leo,
Although most people don't recognize what I am describing. This stop, or reverse of the elbow is perfectly natural.
Every baseball pitcher, every good tennis server... All of the people that are good at throwing do this.
And the energy created with this stop, doesn't stay in the elbow. It flows from the joint forwards..
Does that make sense?
Glad your enjoying the channel
Please let me know how it goes?
www.oneminutetennis.com
Hi, do you use the same motion ( pronation described in this video) for slice serve? I asked because it seems different from your slice video
Hi.
It's about levels.
For the flat serve, this movement is applicable for all levels.
For the slice serve, if the motion is not totally natural, then learning the swing path is better with no pronation
And then add it develops, we can add the pronation.
So this does apply to slice, but only to pretty advanced players.
Does that make sense? And thanks for a great and informed question
@@oneminutetennis thanks. This was the answer I’m looking for in my question to your slice video. I’m glad you clarify it. If my understanding of slice serve is correct, the difference between flat and slice is just the degree of pronation at impact. Do you agree with that? Thanks for clarification. 🙏👍
It’s also the swing path, which is slightly more to the right (towards 45˚ but (usually) not that far). Also the ball toss/contact may be further to the right for some people. But yes the primary difference is less degree of pronation at contact.
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Decent drill notwithstanding, hasn't anyone noticed the ridiculous, and illegal, dampner placement?
Additionally, it's not elbow snap. It's inner forearm rotation.
Hi Chotto,
This wasn't my racket, but it's totally irrelevant where the dampener is in training. The rules only apply to tournament.
And I actually try to avoid phrases such as IFR etc.
This is about teaching, not confusing people and demonstrating how much knowledge we have.
If we ask the 10,000 people or so who will watch this video over the next few weeks whether turn or IFR is easier to follow. I think a small majority will prefer the simpler description.
Does that make sense?
And thanks for an interesting comment