MY GAWD that is a beautiful ship! Both large and elegant at the same time and with proportions that are perfect and far exceed anything JJ Abrams or any of the movie studios have been able to come up with. Fantastic job!
Great job Cap'n..Commander...and Mario. USS Grau looks like an amazing ship. I love the idea of Mission Control for away missions. And neat to have secondary shuttle bay have dedicated turbo lift to bridge. I am sure if Dr Evil had temporarily taken over this ship he would make use of Captains yacht to make his escape.
I often listen to these videos on my phone with no visuals while at work, and so did not previously comment on the 'evolving shipyard' visuals at the beginning. Very nice.
It's very encouraging to see so many positive comments, and the criticisms are also very helpful. As for the camera position, I had no other choice but to use a laptop, because my desktop PC is showing its age and doesn't work well with skype.
Hey, guys! Absolutely love the USS Grau, the technological concepts behind it, and the work you did on it. I discovered your videos a few days ago and have had a blast watching them. You guys are awesome, and I really appreciate the in-depth technical analyses. Have a great new year!
The discussion about the observation deck in the secondary hull is interesting. It kind of reminds me of the floor in the Mon Cal ship from Star Wars Rouge one
+saquist Thank you :D many of the shots i've got to do for Trekyards are just the basic's to show the ship but i try and do a couple of nice ones and some just pop! there are some really special up and coming shots in episodes don't you worry! Thanks again
I really like having a specific area to support away teams. It really makes sense to have a command area to give them direct support while the bridge crew can then focus on the ship itself
A very interesting ship, especially, since we usually only see the "Best" designs that are most popular in starfleet and stay in service for a long time in large numbers. But we all know, it's common for our real world to have prototypes and new designs built for the military or other purposes, that finally prove not as efficient or useful as originally planned and get put aside or never get mass produced. starfleet would certainly have these kind of design-experiments too and the uss grau might be a very cool example for this!
Just discovered this one. Nice job guys! Much better looking ship than Excelsior. I always thought Excelsior looked like warp capable bath tub. Cheers!
I wish I had the technical knowledge to do the ship modeling and 3d design on a computer but I am limited to graph paper and balsa wood models. I've designed a few ships and often wondered how many other trek fans did the same. this is a beautiful ship he designed. and I'm envious of seeing it in cg form
+CaptainROXAS I agree. But the interesting thing Im starting to like about this is the second shuttle bay located at the back of the saucer in between the connection lines between the neck and the boundry.
such a shame JJ didn't use something like this ship for his movies. She's a sexy boat and looks like a great half-step between classic and the beginnings of the trend toward TNG era lines. Also, I really enjoy the observation deck feature. It works great for any planetary observation type missions.
yet another beautiful fan made ship id like to see sto do say a fan pack were you can buy fanmade ships or atleast incorporate there design aesthetically. and what was said about the hanger doors i could just imagine a vulcan engineer observing it and saying "i dont like the doors" and it being set aside for the excelsior.
This is a cool design, gentlemen! The secondary hull shape is reminiscent of a hand phaser. I really like the dedicated turboshaft to the small, saucer shuttle bay. Does the lift car go around, below, or "through" the dome of the impulse deflection crystal?
Dammit, Cockings, would you please enunciate?! I can follow your pace and enjoy your thoughts, but your mumbling is only charming when your words are still discernible!
I would love to see a TV show featuring Enterprise C as the main ship. We get to see so little of her, and there are twelve years of history to tell. Rachel Garrett seemed like a pretty damn good captain, and it would be another chance to have the CO be a female.
Dang, people whip these 3D designs out fast! My model won't be done before NASA actually gets FTL completed in reality! I see both the original and the Cockings mods, being both operational designs. Both cool, can't choose! Sweet nacelles for sure, remind me of the Ulysses class nacelles. The prototype Galaxy class deflector dish reminds me of some fan or game design called Tommy Lehto class, I've seen way back.
Love the overall design. Have no problems with the struts at all. My main quibble is the secondary hanger bay being right underneath the impulse engines. Does this mean it's only in use when the ship is at rest?
I like the over all shape, it fits nicely between several ships in. Although it gives me for some odd reason a Galaxy idea, specially if you look at 12:05 (top ship model). This makes me believe it could be a slimmer and squished pre-Galaxy. Specially with the insane number of windows added to that. Use the skin of the bottom one on the top ship and it will look a hell lot better. Those pylons look rather awkward in my mind, yes the side view does look nice, but there is no single ship in the Federation fleet that has something like that. It would be better to have swiped back pylons. If it was to be a STO ship, it should have there for both versions seen at 12:05 so that you could customize it the way you wish. Those awful looking torpedo launchers at the neck may need to be as optional thing. This ship does not feel 'complete' yet. Not sure why, but it just gives me that feeling.
I could actually see that because of the way the doors in The hanger open up it creates an optical illusion that can cause the shuttlecraft to crash or heavy land
Great design guys! I do have 2 questions, what are the white recessed stripes on the top of the saucer and is that a cargo bay door above the away team/observation room?
Wow its always amazing to see people design starships. Respectfully i think i prefer the original version i think the bottom of the secondary hull is a touch too bolus. the torpedo tubes are too boxy and are in conflict with the rest of the curvaceous nature of the design. The secondary shuttle bay is very practical but could use a bit more refinement with better integration into the saucer section, i think it needs to be wider matching the circumference of the saucer. But otherwise i really like what you have done. i love the deflector, the warp engines, the general overall shape. It does remind me of the USS lexington from KA
This is a lovely design, a testiment to the "less is more" philosophy on detail. Could I please see a spelling of the class name? Sorry the audio is not all that clear.
Hey! You missed the Ent C in your opening animation???!!! Instead going from the B to the D. Speaking of which this design kinda reminds me of proberts original Ent C, I think it's the engineering hull that reminds me of it the most...
+Fox Piano we also did not show the 1701 classic, the animation was not to show all of the Enterprises in order...just show the ones we had seen in some kind of Drydock!
+Fox Piano You are right, it really does strongly lean towards the probert Ent C's aesthetic doesn't it. Looks like someone in Starfleet knew a good thing when they saw it ^^
Here's a bit of irrony. Could it be possible that a modified version of the Gagarin Class engines were used to replace the failed 'transwarp' engines on the USS Excelsior?
I don't think my opinion(s) would be welcomed by the designer but; My biggest bug about it is the antenna on the dish, why? it honestly doesn't look like it'd be Motion Picture era but more of late TOS and pre-TMP, that's what I see. Aside from the tactical error of the observation deck it looks interesting, it just inspired me to add something into my personal ship. I'm not really a fan of the overall design/look of the struts they just look out of place compared to the ship, sure as Drexler would say "ape brain" but the way the struts connect to the nacelles just looks strange, probably because my designer personality is screaming to move the connections toward the middle of the nacelles. The deflector dish kinda makes me think it'd be the Enterprise-C era, but since it is a DS ship it'd make since for a big dish. I do find the ship design inspiration funny, and that was interesting that Sam' helped with the ship.
I must say, awesome design. However, I don't think the secondary shuttlebay was done particularly well. It looks a bi out of place and tacked-on, and it kinda sticks out since the rest of that area is very aerodynamic and smooth. Other than that, great design!
The young dude needs to slow down when he's reading. Can't understand him hardly. lol. Captain Mustache is a way better speaker. Cool design though. Is this to insinuate that there couldn't have been different classes of explorer for Starfleet at this time period? Seems like the fan-made "history" talked about here indicates Starfleet only wanted 1 class of mainline explorer, when later (TNG) it seems like there are at least a few.
Jacob Vaughn Its made up :) Of course all of the missions have a fight because this is a combat game, which wont sit well with the rest of trek which didn't focus on combat in every episode.
I suggest you advise your guest to position his webcam a bit higher. The whole "looking down on the camera" doesn't look all that good. It might even result in his closing thoughts about how much he enjoyed working with Stuart and Samuel not sounding like a hostage reading his own ransom note. That thing aside, it's a very nice ship design
I don't like the engineering section, it looks pregnant! The slimmer design fit the ship's overall sleekness. The curved struts go with the flow of the overall design.
This is a nice design and fits the era perfectly imo.
MY GAWD that is a beautiful ship! Both large and elegant at the same time and with proportions that are perfect and far exceed anything JJ Abrams or any of the movie studios have been able to come up with. Fantastic job!
A very compitant design. Congratulations guys.
A really nice looking ship. Great job Mario!
A lot of love went into this ship. A great name too, it not only suits the ship, but it will encurage you to read up on your own history.
Great job Cap'n..Commander...and Mario.
USS Grau looks like an amazing ship. I love the idea
of Mission Control for away missions. And neat to have
secondary shuttle bay have dedicated turbo lift to bridge.
I am sure if Dr Evil had temporarily taken over this ship he
would make use of Captains yacht to make his escape.
Came back to watch this one again. Totally cool!
I love everything. From the design to the name - it fits so well!
Very nice design. Love the story behind this class:
The observation room under the secondary hull is pure genius!
That observation deck seems like a really good multipurpose use of space. I like the concept, especially on a ship, where space is at a premium.
I often listen to these videos on my phone with no visuals while at work, and so did not previously comment on the 'evolving shipyard' visuals at the beginning. Very nice.
Beautiful looking Ship. Both Mario's original and Samuels refit would look awesome in Star Trek Online.
The Observation area is a great idea
totally awesome show guys ,get up the excellent work .
It's very encouraging to see so many positive comments, and the criticisms are also very helpful. As for the camera position, I had no other choice but to use a laptop, because my desktop PC is showing its age and doesn't work well with skype.
+Humbertusmarius Beautiful design, sir.
Hey, guys! Absolutely love the USS Grau, the technological concepts behind it, and the work you did on it. I discovered your videos a few days ago and have had a blast watching them. You guys are awesome, and I really appreciate the in-depth technical analyses. Have a great new year!
One of my favorite designs now! Would love to use this sometime in a Star Trek RPG.
The love of Trek shines here!
I would SO command a ship in that class, The Grau and her sisters are gorgeous!
+Daniel McCool ok upon looking at this further the deflector dish housing looks like the grill from a '57 Chrysler 300c
Excellent work!
Great looking ship.
I really like the design of this ship. Well done guys!
The discussion about the observation deck in the secondary hull is interesting. It kind of reminds me of the floor in the Mon Cal ship from Star Wars Rouge one
Very Good work Samuel. You're on your way to becoming a Tobias Richter!
14:40 Beautiful shot passing through the nacelles.
+saquist Thank you :D many of the shots i've got to do for Trekyards are just the basic's to show the ship but i try and do a couple of nice ones and some just pop! there are some really special up and coming shots in episodes don't you worry! Thanks again
I really like having a specific area to support away teams. It really makes sense to have a command area to give them direct support while the bridge crew can then focus on the ship itself
Nice looking ships! Great Vid! SLV xox
looking good and a sweet looking ship
Love that opening.
Good looking ship! I wouldn't mind seeing a new TV series involving this starship.
Nice job guys.
The secondary hull looks a lot like one of the variant options available in STO for your commander level ship.
A very interesting ship, especially, since we usually only see the "Best" designs that are most popular in starfleet and stay in service for a long time in large numbers. But we all know, it's common for our real world to have prototypes and new designs built for the military or other purposes, that finally prove not as efficient or useful as originally planned and get put aside or never get mass produced. starfleet would certainly have these kind of design-experiments too and the uss grau might be a very cool example for this!
Just discovered this one. Nice job guys! Much better looking ship than Excelsior. I always thought Excelsior looked like warp capable bath tub.
Cheers!
I wish I had the technical knowledge to do the ship modeling and 3d design on a computer but I am limited to graph paper and balsa wood models. I've designed a few ships and often wondered how many other trek fans did the same. this is a beautiful ship he designed. and I'm envious of seeing it in cg form
Beautiful design
Grau is a very nice design!
now that's a beautiful tmp era ship. to me it feels like the galaxy class of tmp
+CaptainROXAS I agree. But the interesting thing Im starting to like about this is the second shuttle bay located at the back of the saucer in between the connection lines between the neck and the boundry.
this fixes the one thing I don't love about the Excelsior which is the pylons. Nice ship!
such a shame JJ didn't use something like this ship for his movies. She's a sexy boat and looks like a great half-step between classic and the beginnings of the trend toward TNG era lines. Also, I really enjoy the observation deck feature. It works great for any planetary observation type missions.
I'd really love to see the schematics of this ship, especially the bridge and engineering.
yet another beautiful fan made ship id like to see sto do say a fan pack were you can buy fanmade ships or atleast incorporate there design aesthetically. and what was said about the hanger doors i could just imagine a vulcan engineer observing it and saying "i dont like the doors" and it being set aside for the excelsior.
That would have been perfect as the original Enterprise, great design.
I love the Lower Obs Deck, though I reckon it could be bigger (Deeper with more couches and tables) :D
That is one pretty ship
Cool ship.
really good design
This is a cool design, gentlemen!
The secondary hull shape is reminiscent of a hand phaser.
I really like the dedicated turboshaft to the small, saucer shuttle bay. Does the lift car go around, below, or "through" the dome of the impulse deflection crystal?
Dammit, Cockings, would you please enunciate?! I can follow your pace and enjoy your thoughts, but your mumbling is only charming when your words are still discernible!
+Evan Green Sorry...lots to say...less time than you think to do it!
I would love to see a TV show featuring Enterprise C as the main ship. We get to see so little of her, and there are twelve years of history to tell. Rachel Garrett seemed like a pretty damn good captain, and it would be another chance to have the CO be a female.
Dang, people whip these 3D designs out fast! My model won't be done before NASA actually gets FTL completed in reality!
I see both the original and the Cockings mods, being both operational designs. Both cool, can't choose! Sweet nacelles for sure, remind me of the Ulysses class nacelles. The prototype Galaxy class deflector dish reminds me of some fan or game design called Tommy Lehto class, I've seen way back.
Love the overall design. Have no problems with the struts at all. My main quibble is the secondary hanger bay being right underneath the impulse engines. Does this mean it's only in use when the ship is at rest?
I like the over all shape, it fits nicely between several ships in. Although it gives me for some odd reason a Galaxy idea, specially if you look at 12:05 (top ship model). This makes me believe it could be a slimmer and squished pre-Galaxy. Specially with the insane number of windows added to that. Use the skin of the bottom one on the top ship and it will look a hell lot better. Those pylons look rather awkward in my mind, yes the side view does look nice, but there is no single ship in the Federation fleet that has something like that. It would be better to have swiped back pylons.
If it was to be a STO ship, it should have there for both versions seen at 12:05 so that you could customize it the way you wish. Those awful looking torpedo launchers at the neck may need to be as optional thing. This ship does not feel 'complete' yet. Not sure why, but it just gives me that feeling.
I LOVE that Observation deck! Lovely design. But what about the bridge? I want to see the bridge. =3
Great looking ship well done guys, this should have been Cannon and used as the Enterprise B instead of the Excelsior
looks kinda like an excelsior with a beer gut lol but i really like the necelles
I could actually see that because of the way the doors in The hanger open up it creates an optical illusion that can cause the shuttlecraft to crash or heavy land
this is a great ship
The Nacelle pylons reminds me of the new Enterprise A at the end of Star Trek Beyond.
You guys on trek yards need too design a ship together I would be interested in seeing what you guys would come up with
Love it
Great design guys! I do have 2 questions, what are the white recessed stripes on the top of the saucer and is that a cargo bay door above the away team/observation room?
At first glance I thought this ship was a bridge between Excelsior & Ambassador class ships. Like it better with red Bussard nacelle caps.
Wow its always amazing to see people design starships. Respectfully i think i prefer the original version i think the bottom of the secondary hull is a touch too bolus. the torpedo tubes are too boxy and are in conflict with the rest of the curvaceous nature of the design. The secondary shuttle bay is very practical but could use a bit more refinement with better integration into the saucer section, i think it needs to be wider matching the circumference of the saucer. But otherwise i really like what you have done. i love the deflector, the warp engines, the general overall shape. It does remind me of the USS lexington from KA
All you have to do the increase refit enterprise size and make it big
Trekyards: "Should the Need Arise."
This is a lovely design, a testiment to the "less is more" philosophy on detail. Could I please see a spelling of the class name? Sorry the audio is not all that clear.
Hey! You missed the Ent C in your opening animation???!!! Instead going from the B to the D. Speaking of which this design kinda reminds me of proberts original Ent C, I think it's the engineering hull that reminds me of it the most...
+Fox Piano we also did not show the 1701 classic, the animation was not to show all of the Enterprises in order...just show the ones we had seen in some kind of Drydock!
+Fox Piano You are right, it really does strongly lean towards the probert Ent C's aesthetic doesn't it.
Looks like someone in Starfleet knew a good thing when they saw it ^^
Here's a bit of irrony. Could it be possible that a modified version of the Gagarin Class engines were used to replace the failed 'transwarp' engines on the USS Excelsior?
I rewatched the ds9 battle scene. The ship that was under the galaxy class was not the ship. It was an excelsior class starship.
I like it
I don't think my opinion(s) would be welcomed by the designer but;
My biggest bug about it is the antenna on the dish, why? it honestly doesn't look like it'd be Motion Picture era but more of late TOS and pre-TMP, that's what I see. Aside from the tactical error of the observation deck it looks interesting, it just inspired me to add something into my personal ship.
I'm not really a fan of the overall design/look of the struts they just look out of place compared to the ship, sure as Drexler would say "ape brain" but the way the struts connect to the nacelles just looks strange, probably because my designer personality is screaming to move the connections toward the middle of the nacelles.
The deflector dish kinda makes me think it'd be the Enterprise-C era, but since it is a DS ship it'd make since for a big dish.
I do find the ship design inspiration funny, and that was interesting that Sam' helped with the ship.
Wish we could make this canon
Why No rear facing launch tubes.
If one would look at the blue prints of the Enterprise. The max warp speed was factor 12 too
+psychoholic100 Thats the old warp scale!
+power543 I know what it is
+power543 They are talking about the old warp scale
I'd love to have a 3d model of this ship.
I must say, awesome design. However, I don't think the secondary shuttlebay was done particularly well. It looks a bi out of place and tacked-on, and it kinda sticks out since the rest of that area is very aerodynamic and smooth. Other than that, great design!
I'm not a fan of this ship design, but I like it anyways.
oh Mr Merino, is it not arrogant for Abrams to approve such a hideous design?
Needs a thicker neck and beefier nacelle pylons.
The young dude needs to slow down when he's reading. Can't understand him hardly. lol. Captain Mustache is a way better speaker.
Cool design though. Is this to insinuate that there couldn't have been different classes of explorer for Starfleet at this time period? Seems like the fan-made "history" talked about here indicates Starfleet only wanted 1 class of mainline explorer, when later (TNG) it seems like there are at least a few.
Twenty-One Aft ?
Well, the ship is certainly pretty grau. Ha! now tell me Germans can't make good jokes...oh dear...
I am sad... the fans make better ships than the current "cannon" of sto...
+Jacob Vaughn Sto is not canon.
+Stanimir Georgiev oh thank god
Jacob Vaughn Its made up :) Of course all of the missions have a fight because this is a combat game, which wont sit well with the rest of trek which didn't focus on combat in every episode.
+Stanimir Georgiev that and have you SEEN cryptic ships? fucking eww
Jacob Vaughn Oh, I quite like the ships in the game, especially the enterprise F.
Commander cockings is a better host and I'm not saying that because I'm English
I suggest you advise your guest to position his webcam a bit higher. The whole "looking down on the camera" doesn't look all that good.
It might even result in his closing thoughts about how much he enjoyed working with Stuart and Samuel not sounding like a hostage reading his own ransom note.
That thing aside, it's a very nice ship design
+Staarfury He is looking down at the hangout or skype so he can see who is is talking too...
+Doug Russell The camera is still lower than his face, it's just not a very good look.
He was on a laptop. Nothing he could do about the camera. When we have guests sometimes they don't skype all that often so we work with what we have.
Its a webshow.. people think cause they watch something they get to nitpick it to death...
+Doug Russell It's also the internet, where people think just because you point out something that could've been better, you're a meanie.
I don't like the engineering section, it looks pregnant! The slimmer design fit the ship's overall sleekness. The curved struts go with the flow of the overall design.