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Pirelli Superbike Slicks | A guide to various compounds vs temperature and conditions
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
- A short and handy video to truly understand which Pirelli slick compound to use on what kind of conditions.
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0:00 Important Intro
01:06 SCX
02:02 Temperatures
02:22 SC0
03:18 SC1
03:46 SC2
04:37 SC3
06:16 Fronts
06:52 What's next?
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Here are the Chapters for an easier viewing experience:
0:00 Important Intro
01:06 SCX
02:02 Temperatures
02:22 SC0
03:18 SC1
03:46 SC2
04:37 SC3
06:16 Fronts
06:52 What's next?
Thank you for the video. Hearing it again and again helps me remember this stuff!!!
Much appreciated Sean and most welcome
I am glad it’s handy :)
This information is rarely available in video form
I learnt it the hard way and then spoke to Pirelli engineers
I own a moto shop in the San Francisco Bay Area. I also used to work in two different suspension shops. There’s ALWAYS so much to learn!!! Keep up the good work and best of luck to you with your racing!!!
@@seanmcmichael855 thank you mate
My parents and brother live in elk grove California and everytime I visit them I land at San Francisco airport , do keep in touch via Facebook chasing tenths , would love to come and say hello during this summer :)
Am just getting into my trackdays done two last year more to come this year. Finding your videos invaluable 👍🏻 keep up the good work mate. Maybe see you on a track day soon?
Thank you Johnathan , I truly appreciate it so very much , so glad they are useful .. this year I am not doing as many trackday but you might still see me with a camera in my hand you never know
Well done. I was trying to find info on the different compounds. Nicely done as always! 👍🏽👍🏽
Thank you very much my friend
Thanks Abhi, another very interesting topic. Being a road rider and not knowing much about different compounds, I'd always assumed with hotter weather you used harder tyres and softer for cooler days. Can't wait for the next vid 😁 cheers
Mark, I also thought the same thing
And I learnt it the hardest last year on a hot day I had a high side in a race and I couldn’t understand why , turns out wrong tyres for the wrong day , I had the hardest compound for a super hot day … but I am now passing that knowledge on :)
Man can’t believe I had not seen this channel very well made wow and man very good info thank you 🙏
Thank you mate. Very nice of you and I am glad it was helpful
Very interesting video !!! Even though at my level I believe it is more important checking tyre pressure between sessions than trying more extreme compounds….as you say in the video, there are some compounds that need and only work at certain temperatures and faster paces than a below average rider like myself
BTW I ride SC2s
You know what Alberto , I should have actually included tyre pressure information in the video too... totally forgot to mention that but tbh that such an easily available info on google and it's quite well represented , you make good point about checking pressure in and out of the pits and SC2 Supercorsa are fantastic , they warm up good on road too especially with your lovely Spanish weather
That’s very helpful video mate . Carry on, your videos really gain our knowledges. ❤
Thank you Osman , I will be doing road tyre ones too which will be helpful to you and riders like you
Yup. Please do. Just got Michelin Road 6 for my Ninja 1000 , will ride and give you review in pm.
@@osmanali3941 that are brilliant tyres , you can’t go wrong with them
Perfect video thanks for your work 😉
Most welcome Adrian :)
Glad it helped
Great timing for the video!
I'm literally in a quandary with what to run for Donny a week Sunday
Think I'll probably not run the Superbike slicks I only have an SC1 I'll probably launch me at 7 degrees.
Still deciding what to run between SC2 rear Supercorsa or a VO2 soft
Such a minefield when it's cold
Lewis, 100 percent SC2 supercorsa mate
Absolutely don’t risk it with the slick the way temperatures are now
Not only it can cause a crash but the slick can crack too.. SC2 or even SP is fantastic
Just hope it’s dry for you mate
@@ChasingTenths time will tell 🙈
@@LowsideLew take it easy matey :)
Hi Abhi great video and again helpful I have just got on too Pirelli slick last year I ran sc1 front and scx rear it was the hottest day of the year at donnington park so this year I’ll be on slicks again but your video has given me a better understanding on selection good work my friend
Mark, that was just perfect selection of tyres for the day , in 2019 when it was the second hottest day , it was 39.7 Celsius and I had SC1 and SC0
It was amazing
Crazy hot day
So many people nearly passed out or left by 2 pm lol
I did all the sessions and nearly passed out while loading the bike in the trailer
@@ChasingTenths I had a friend of mine on the same day he nearly passed out he rode his bike to donnington so was in his leathers all day bless him lol. Are you racing again this year or taking a break.
@@marksawbridge5345 bless him , its proper tough sometimes with those conditions , no mate , no racing , mortgage rates have sky rocketed , unbelievable, so no racing for a year or even two.
@@ChasingTenths ❤️
@@ChasingTenths well hopefully we’ll catch up on a trackday or something I understand racing is expense I’m still hopeful of racing next year fingers crossed 👍🏻
Nice little vid Abhi👍🏻
Would be interested to learn more about the Metzler TD. Been using the Continental Race Attack for track days and I really rate them, but fancy trying a slick this season 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks for sharing as always 🙂🏍️👍🏻
Thanks Gareth , continental is one tyre I have never tried
I would love to one day
But the video for SC3 vs Metzeler TD is already recorded
So will edit it and post it on Sunday :)
Thanks again for the comment :)
Looking forward to the weekend post then Abhi 🙂👍🏻👍🏻
@@6arethevan5 Sunday night for sure Gareth , your support is so much appreciated
Good tyre ! Raced 6days oscherslebe/spa/lautsitz last year on a fron and rear metzler TD and still life left. Rsv4 and is a kind of fast beginner intermediate pace
@@tobiasjacobsen_dk that’s fantastic, some iconic tracks there , good stuff matey
Great video. My understanding is that the SC3 uses the same compound as the Supercorsa SP V4 (slick part of the SP). I’m looking forward to seeing more on this topic.
It’s probably slightly similar but with road tires are normally dual compound , different on the sides , different in the middle and the profile is different but it’s actually a very interesting comment , I am sure there must be some similarities in the compound
@@ChasingTenths I meant just the slick part past the tread. I’m interested in trying the SC this year. Keep up the good content! 👍
@@sp00ky1969 aaahh ok Dean , I get you now and thanks for the appreciation :)
Good video! What tire psi are you running hot and cold? Ive only run sc1 120/180 on an r6. I recently tried the sc2 and the wear was amazing. The sc1 ive always had tire wear issues. Its probably due to my tire psi. I run 2.5 bar (36psi) front and 1.5 bar rear (21.7psi) cold. A buddy racer told me those numbers are to high especially for the front tire
Thank you for the appreciation, you’ll be fine with 25 hot rear and 35 psi hot front ..
I have seen riders go upto 37 psi front but they are very heavy guys
I use 120 in the front and 200 rear
Sc1 and Sc2 respectively
How can you match sc3?
Rear sc3 …what on front?
If use metz TD which is very similar ti sc3..,what compaund have we hot in that front(td)???
Because if td or sc3 are better for cold …should we chance the front ?
I have spoken to the Pirelli technicians about it last year
The Pirelli SC1 Superbike slick in the front is absolutely fine , it gives optimum grip in most conditions
However, slicks should not be used if it’s less than 6 to 8 degrees on track .. it’s too cold .. you can then use Supercorsa SP in the front or Supercorsa SC in the front
Have you done a video on the service life of your bike or parts of it? Like on how bearings have worn compared to an rsv4 that lives on the road.
Would you ever need an engine rebuild, or just changing the oil frequently keeps it in top shape ?
I have not done it yet mate, but I will definitely to it in march , I have a few bike related videos to make in march, so 100 percent will do it
Que aula de conhecimento ! muito obrigado por compartilhar conosco Abhi
Anderson, google does not let me copy and paste your comment into google translator, please can you translate in English so I can respond back accordingly, thank you 😊
@@ChasingTenths Sorry man, I forgot to write in English lol. I was amazed by the video, a lot of knowledge. I've always researched tires, and I learned more today. I already used an SC1 on my old zx10r 2011, I remember they were fantastic, but they didn't last long. Here in Brazil, tires are very expensive, especially high-performance ones 😓
@@andersonnilo605 thanks for the English translation, much appreciated.. helps me a lot 🙈..
Pirelli are tend to be more expensive
And I know metzeler who are part of Pirelli aren’t that common in north and South Americas . If you could get metzeler, they might be cheaper but you are right Pirelli is definitely top dollar :)
I am glad you found the video useful
Sponsored by Pirelli.. 👍🏻👍🏻
😂😂 I bloody wish mate, never taken a penny in sponsorship from anyone yet but wouldn’t mind lol
Very helpful Abhi! This track game is such a minefield and really hard to navigate. Seems that the more you get into it and the more high performance you go, the more variables there are, which i guess is why the td slicks are a great option as it takes the guess work away.
We probably all need a tyre man, massive budget m and about 10 sets of new tyres in the van to be sure... then its starts raining 😂.
Personally mostly run dunlops which have been great and now on kr slick ms3 and moto 2 rear... were awesome in Portimao, but not sure how they'll work out on a cold march/april england track day at croft. 😬 Aaron Knox
Always great to hear from you Aaron, a video at oulton on chopsey’s channel once and you were there and it was a very hot day… I think if the day is a bit on the cold side metzeler TD or Supercorsa SC2 or Metzeler Racetec RR K3 are bloody fantastic… Dunlops are amazing, I heard they are a bit dear but give a lot of grip and life , I am yet to try them but may be this year I will , saying that I have a lot of Pirelli scrubs left from racing last year so I might use them first :) .. nice to hear from you
@Chasing Tenths course and you have to use Pirelli/metzeler in most racing etc so it makes sense to stick to what you know.
Dunlop set was ok price wise, think i paid 380 from no limits and that was what most of the instructors were on. All the beat mate. 😀
Thanks again Aaron, yeah I always wondered why so many instructors used Dunlops , I think it’s mainly cause it lasts so long , Paul Curren the BSB team principal local to me also told me to use Dunlops for Trackdays, all the best to you too mate
I've rode at Misano world circuit with SC3 in June last year and they were dangerously slippery. I suggest them as season opening or ending track days tyres because they work great with cold temperatures. I've used mostly SC2 and they adapt better with temperatures during the year than any other compound Pirelli currently offering. SCX, SC0 those are truly for qualifying laps tyres, definatly not for the average track day rat as me. 😁 Thanks for the video very informative.
Perfectly summarised comment there mate, very good points which I totally agree with and I am jealous you did Misano ;) … I would love to do that track plus Mugello .. thanks for appreciating
@@ChasingTenths Hope to see your video riding at Mugello aswell Abi. I've been there 6 times and i can tell you is truly a benchmark racetrack for any bike. You will reach your top speed +300 km/h, casanova-savelli and Arrabbiata 1+2, are the most frightening turns of Mugello. The last one " La Bucine", cameras of MotoGP lies, in reality is a tremendously downhill left corner that will launch you at full speed down the straight of the box. You will love Mugello guaranteed 👍.
@@TahirPassionGP wow, I can’t wait mate
In 2020, I was supposed to go there but sold my slot to a friend .. it’s the creme of bike tracks
Brilliant Videos! I live in spain and been doing track days now for about 2 years. I currently have dunllop d212 M on the front and a pirelli SC2 on the rear of my bike. Never had an issue with the two types on my bike, however, as we get closer to summer and the temperatures rise, would it be better to run an sc1 on the front and keeping the sc2 on the rear ? And run the same tyres all year round? As temperatures here are 20 plus degrees most often.
Cheers.
I have never ran a Dunlop in the front I’ll be honest
However running SC1 and SC1 combination is absolutely brilliant
I have never ever had an issue with running this at all..
you would be absolutely fine
The sc1 front is a little expensive but then Dunlop isn’t cheap either
You will be fine with sc1 front
Sc2 rear is very versatile, it has a larger operating window ..
thank you for the kind words , let me know how it goes for you
Fronts are very important
It’s all about how we feel
Thanks for watching
@ChasingTenths thanks for getting back to us mate. will do 👍🏻 next track day is in a few weeks ✊🏻😎
@@Warden8885 brilliant , all the best … let me know how it goes with sc1 sc2
Nice content! big Pirelli person and going to run an sc1 front and sc3 rear on my s1000rr. Think i'll switch to an sc2 mid summer here since its not incredibly warm yet. Do you think the variance in grip will matter? Its a street bike i run advanced pace track. thanks!
Hi Mitch , Thanks for the appreciation, SC2 has better grip than SC3 for sure
But the main thing here is
If you have the right compound for the right temperature
You will feel unbelievable grip
On a cooler day SC3
On a very hot day SC1 or even SC0
On a warm to hot day SC2
Thanks for the video, can i ask roughly how many sessions (20mins each) one of sc1 and sc2 front tyre will last if youre riding in group A pace? Thank you.
Plenty Brandon, absolutely plenty …
So for example we have 7 , 20 min sessions in U.K. for a trackday , say average ambient temp 21 degree Celsius
Front will last easily 2 full days that’s 14 sessions
The rear might last 2 days too
But if really quick then 1.5 days
But if the rider isn’t smooth , very choppy throttle and very unnecessarily aggressive then may be 1 day on the rear
@@ChasingTenths thanks for yhe detailed response. Can i also ask if the slick SCs compound and the supercorsa SCs are the same compound? And also what is the TD tyre then? Thank you
@@barrabran the SC supercorsa and Slick are quite different in profile as the slick is more of a racing slick profile , a lot more side grip and the compound is also different , more race orientated , the supercorsa can be used without warmers but the slick needs warmers . Ths Metzeler TD is a great compound , very versatile
I have done two videos on it , here are the links , this will explain everything
, see new comment
@@barrabran ruclips.net/video/h0WiF_m2tks/видео.html first video for metzeler TD
@@barrabran ruclips.net/video/iuKnlcszfrk/видео.html
Second video for metzeler TD
Hi Abhi, I really need your recommendations..
I'll have a trackday in Mandalika Indonesia for 2 days with my R6 and I have 1 pair supercorsa SC2 and Superbike SC2 front+SC3 rear..
Which one will have better performance on hot days in Indonesia? 🙏🙏🙏
I really never use them(pirelli), I've only use Power Cup 2 for daily and travkdays
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Hello Fathu,
I would say SC2 slick front is ok if you already have it
And Sc2 slick or Sc1 slick rear
Do not use Sc3 slick at all if it’s hot
Supercorsa is not a bad choice but not in too too hot weather
Let me know if you have further questions
Thanks
Abhi
@@ChasingTenths Thank you so much Abhy, really appriciate it 🙏
But is it okay if I'm not push hard or do slow pace with SC3?
In my prediction, I think I'll do about 02.00 for a lap meanwhile fastest group will do about 01.52
I assumed the tire will not going too hot as my slow pace 😬🙏
And of course I'll use tyre warmer before down to the track
@@FathuPrasetyo yes that should be absolutely ok pace wise
Yes definitely use tyre warmers please
@@ChasingTenths Thank you so much Abhy, you make me confident to go with the sc3 🙏
Hope you and your family doing well 🤲
And cann't wait to see your next videos ✊️✊️✊️
@@FathuPrasetyo thank you
You are very kind
Much much appreciated
I wish you all the best :)
Abhi, awesome video! Preciate the knowledge and experience you've shared. I am considering Pirelli race slicks vs. Bridgestone race slicks for track use. Eventually, I would like to experience both for my own comparison. In the meantime, I have to start with one. I don't recall if you have ridden on Bridgestone slicks. If so, and if not, what are your thoughts about Bridgestone? Thanks again, Abhi!
Bridgestone is brilliant mate the v02 soft and medium compounds both are brilliant and they also do a slightly more durable and more consistent version called V02 3LC , I have done a video on that , I talk about v02 in general in that video too , in our racing category we can only use Pirelli and metzeler. And I have also heard that the Bridgestone W01 is one of the best if not the best wet weather race tyre out there… check that v02 video out or actually I will put a link in a second comment to you here , thanks for the appreciation
ruclips.net/video/5ICHiSKB3hg/видео.html
Here’s that video matey
@Chasing Tenths Thanks again for the wisdom and knowledge, Abhi 💯
@@adrenalinejournalist not a problem at all… I learn from the experts then I simplify information and pass it on :)
Would you use a SC1 front all year round ? Ive got a trackday at Cadwell this sunday and i like the idea of using it with a TD rear as long as its not too cold for the SC ?
It should be absolutely ok
Unless the temperature drops to about below 10 degrees
I have used Sc1 all year around with no issues plus TD rear with it
And it’s been brilliant
Thankyou very much for your reply 👍 Love your Channel keep up the good work 👏
@@thomasaddison6957 thanks very much mate , much appreciated honestly
Bravo just in time, I got an Rsv4 ( thanks to you ), I am preparing it for the track and probably some racing. Keep the vids coming : )
P.S I need a track fairing for my rsv4 2021+ model any suggestions ?
Thanks for the kind words there mate, and I am good to see a fellow Aprilia man inspired by the channel …
Let me find out for your about the fairings for the new model
I have personally used extreme components fairings and BikePlast fairings for my 2015 RF but I don’t think they make it for the new one yet ,,,, pro fibre might do but let me find out for you matey
@@ChasingTenths thank you so much, i do have parts on bike inspired by your crashed like milottie sliders , screen protector 😛
@@trashedlife1 aahaaa brilliant
They saved me big time honestly
I am never sponsored by anyone :) so I only recommend stuff where I have been the crash test Guinea pig lol
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@@ChasingTenths thank you so much, i really would like to ride with you some day
what you mean by heat cycles??? if i get an track used SC1 will perform worse than a SP?
Heat cycles means in Lehman terms; how many times the tire has gone through warmers off then on track then warmers on and also if not using warmers then; going on track then coming back in to the pits and then going back out again. So in the UK we have 6 to 7 twenty minute sessions on one trackday so thats like 7 heat cycles. If you get a Track used SuperCorsa SC1 (which is road legal too) that will be fine with a few heat cycles, but if its the SC1 Racing Slick, thats doesn't last that long anyways as its a softer compound tire and the wear dots on it will tell you the limits of the wear. You will be fine as long as the tire wear markers are ok. SC1 gives much more grip than SP. But SC1 does like to be used with warmers, SP warms up pretty quick on track within a lap without warmers. Please feel free to ask any further questions, I hope I haven't confused you
@@ChasingTenths i think i will use SC1 used front and SP new on rear... I live in Brazil, here we have 24-35 degre temperature, i will use for road "race" with friends i was on doubt if i get the front SC1 or SP, i dont mind durability only grip for the front...
@@Intrudercaferacer that’s a good combination , you will be absolutely ok with that mate
@@ChasingTenths thanks man =)
@@Intrudercaferacer no worries at all, all the best . Hope it goes well for you