CYC X1 Pro first check vs Bafang BBSHD
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- We tested the new CYC motor with a 50A firmware restriction at 55V against a Bafang BBSHD with 45A shunt mod at 57V.
CYC (Gen1):
• compact size
• better ground clearance
• lighter
• better torque
• Bluetooth display with many settings on the smartphone
• company claims a 65A controller in the future by stock and probably up to 20S
• easy changing 104 mm BCD chainrings and cheaper. But restricted on one chainline
• nicer housing and better bearings
• in the beta period
• small company which is interested in feedback and improvements
✔️ 3000-5000W New Gen2-Version can be found here: fasterbikes.eu...
✔️ 1500W CYC X1 Stealth: fasterbikes.eu...
✔️ 1000W Bafang: fasterbikes.eu...
• cost less
• more display options and accessories
• by stock only 30A
• 1 nylon gear, which breaks easier but produces less noise (can be replaced by peek or steel gear)
• different chainrings offer a variety of chain lines
• Bafang refuses cooperation with improvements
Both bikes are not fully finished and some final wiring has to be done. We like to be flexible in changes 😊
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My jaw dropped when I realised that you are doing this test 1 handed whilst filming. WOW! Great job!
Thank you for the video. Very informative and well done. Cheers stranger :)
So glad I found this brand. Great video by the way!
The CYC X1 really comes to life with the BAC 800 controller with a 52v or 72v battery. It becomes a beast with the ERT BAC 400 or 800 give it a try, So much smoother, and better throttle control as well as torque due to the controller's amazing performance. Same with the BBSHD so much more power with ERT BAC 800 controller its a beast. Fantastic review though
Cheers
Is it easy to install. I want to do a ebike retrofits on my Kona MTB. And not sure what is my best options. I want to derestrict it aswell. More speed
Thank for a great comparison. The ASI BAC 800 is showing much promise with the X1 PRO. The BBSHD is also running on the ASI. At 20S they both run much better with lees strain on the drivetrain. Less amps used. Both are 45mph. The X1 will be superior with final ASI tuning.
I like the amount of watts/amps the CYC can pull, but they should really do something about that noise. It's the only thing preventing me from buying this thing (and maybe the shipping time). It's one thing that the sound pitch itself is not pleasant to listen to, but it's another that it's loud.
i would buy CYC in a heartbeat if it wasn't so loud and obnoxious.
Great comparison, the camera angles were great too, nice stuff! Thumbs up
Oh my, that noise.... Changed my mind on getting it, will get bbshd instead, thanks for the video
Yes, if you’re looking for a quiet build, the BBSHD is the way to go.
@@livingroom7019 not really. Just bbs02. Less weight, better alignment. And same gear that will melt if you are really trying or don't know what's is switching gears means. The only reason why it's quiter.
Thank you so much for this info. I now have a bafang bbshd and was thinking if i should get a cyc but i think ill just keep upgrading my bbshd.
SMART MOVE
CYC X1 : I would not like my shoelace to get caught in this chainring. 8-/
That happened on my bafang was stuck to the bike for 10 mins untill I could get my knife out my bag ...it wound up and nearly broke my ankle. always take a blade out . 😂🤔
you probably dont give a shit but if you're stoned like me during the covid times you can watch all the latest movies on Instaflixxer. I've been binge watching with my girlfriend these days =)
@Taylor Dorian Yup, been using InstaFlixxer for since december myself :)
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These mid drives are so awesome! Im currently using a modified 500w hub motor thats been modified to put out 1200w and that goes very well compared to the stock set up
Rears are horrible, i got tired of replacing bent/snapped spokes and the noise, my bbshd is just as quick, less issues and destorys hill climbs, plus you can hotrod it
Thank you so much for your video. Beautiful surrunding!!
I think it's important to note what little difference pushing your bafang over 30 A has. There will be a minor speed and acceleration bump at the cost of much shorter range and accelerated wear on the nylon gear. Also the bafang got the EggRider which I think is essential since you can use a EU legal and off-road profile.
more power is always good to have, if you want some. It doesn't mean I'm always using it and the daily riding is done at a similar speed and power. But good to have if you are in a hurry… 30A is fine and seems that the HD is good also with 45A. And I'm not sure if a Eggrider is fully legal in the EU, since the power can be restricted with a button, when you see the police.
I like the CYC motor.
Bafang BBSHD thank you
BBSHD silent and stealth, perfect for trails
Yes..Im so happy with my stock bbshd..its practically silent even under full power.
@@chargeriderepeat7024 Switch to lower gears and it will be similar in noise. Only reason it's is due to nylon gear, which most throw away if they run much higher than 30A. There is no reason to buy bbshd in the first place, if you don't plan to change this gear. Bbs02 weighs less and has better alignment, larger chainrings and is capable of running 30A too.
Thats in my bottom gear.36/36..yes I just run the nylon gear.
Not interested in more than 30amps
That's why I bought one.
Bafang all the way with a controller 4000 watts no problem, Also Bafang parts are cheap and easy to fix.
Lol when you passed your girlfriend it was like you broke the sound barrier, fasterbikes brilliant company, these guys really care for ebikes and customers, my go to bafang parts.
very good video
nice DTSWISS rims.
I learn a lot in this video. weiter so
The more moving parts are exposed the more problems you will experience. This fundamental difference in design is why I will stay with bafang hd. If you wish you can put 40 plus amps through it. But it will handle 30amps continuously.
thx. you helped me to choose one btw the two
Nice!!
BBS HD clear winner!!! 45A vs 50A and it's almost the same! The ASI BAC 800 controller will give a big boost to the bafang, there will be no contest in performance, considering price, noise, etc....
CYC can produce so much power Bafang cant even imagine... With a proper controller CYC motor will tear that Bafang into pieces
@@wernerhannefeld2636 I think it depend on the gearing ratio used on Bafang BBSHD or CYC, I use 42 T Front Chainring with 9 Speed 11-46T Rear Cassette and it is impossible to keep the front wheel on the ground on the first gear with my BBSHD running with ASI BAC800 controller. The torque is amazing... Here is my YT channel if you want to check it out: ruclips.net/video/zbBiMlinzlo/видео.html Lots more videos to come next summer 2020... Cheers Dan
@@enduroebikeaddict i got the same gearing, chain ring, it goes like a rocket and the chain sound is so sweet, im using sram 951 9speed and kmc x9 both decent priced but strong af
Hi great video what model bikes did you use for the conversion
Scott LT and Propaine Tyee
Nice comparison. What brand bikes are you using?
saying at the beginning: Scott Genius LT10 and Propain Tyee
Very nice bikes. I have the same scott bike, do you think the cyc x1 could be installed on the scott lt? Thank you.
Yes, why not?
Please show more about your battery setup!
14S 6P 52V with Samsung 30Q cells, 14S 5P 52V with Samsung 30Q cells
how did u get these batteries squeezed into the tiny space? or u made them or what?
Thats a customized battery from our shop: fasterbikes.eu/en/batteries/battery/223/52v-customized-battery-built-to-your-measurements-with-samsung-35e-cells?c=162
What crank spline, do these motors have?, the bafangs iv seen have an old school square taper crank, notorious for snapping, or at least thay used to be, do any of these self fit motors come with a crank spline good for real abuse like the isis drive type truvativ used cheers
hello 💪👍 ,, on the BBSHD that battery to mounted,!? me on my 1000wat bafang BBSHD. the seller recommends 52v 17.5ah but it is not good it is lacking in energy. and it does only 15 km with pedal boat assistance speed 4 with accelerator nothing fake 😶 I still have little and gnente
What size is the front sprocket?
Wird der mit EM sinus controller betrieben?
i have the bbshd. i dont understand what you have done to pump up the performance, please can you explain, id like to increase mine, cheers
Please write an email to welcome@fasterbikes.eu and let us know your setup (battery ...).
Google the desription from here and you will find how to: BBSHD 45A shunt mod
The shunt measures the amperage of the controller. There are different shunt values to choose. E.g. Half the shut value and the controller thinks to provide the same 30A, but provides 60A instead, but shows 30A in the display. I have tested it for a while and I would say, it isn't really worth it, since using more power, the motor has a overheating problem. Also the 45A feels like 10% more, because of the saturation of the motor. It is fine for a few short boosts, but you have to watch out for the nylon gear.
Also you need a battery, which can provide the power, like 50A continuos if you want to use it for longer in the flat.
What is one of those frame pad/cover thing called that you have on your bike, what’s the name called, and where to purchase it?
Do you mean the battery bag?
Hi what use you for pedals arm of the bbshd ? On the left side ?
Lekkie Cranks: fasterbikes.eu/en/accessories/cranks/116/lekkie-buzz-bars-cranks-offset-black?number=1420-160
I have a question what hub to use for my bike my motor is running 3000w and my hub has broke which one do you recomend
Mxus 3K Never had issue 3 years in
I have bash guard mounts at my bottom braked can I fit both motors without removing (flexing them of)
CYC motor will work, Bafang pretty sure not
@@fasterbikeseu I think you talk German right I would like to buy the cyc motor on your website but I don't know which battery I have to choose maybe Rucksackakku 52V 14S 5P Ebike zelltype Samsung 30q
@@fynnchiboy1060 Ja zum Beispiel, oder Jumbo Shark Akku, oder ein Akku nach deinen Maßangaben, ...
Eine deutsche Übersetzung wäre gut 👍
Thats the way you do it! great comparison! but should share the prices
Thanks, prices are not ready yet. But the CYC costs about 30% more. Prices for HD should be clear and are around 720€ incl. VAT here in Europe.
Cyc only problem to me is the noise
What frame is the CYC motor on?
it´s a Propain Tyee
How does it compare to 18 or 20S BBSHD?
If I go down from 18S to 14S on my BBSHD, it feels much slower, both at 45 A though.
I imagine BAC800 BBSHD vs CYC at 65 A 20S will be interesting.
didnt test with 20S yet, this was with stock controller only. I think the HD has similar power, but the nylon gear is still the weakest point
@@tschingol
Your system is likely becoming the best option in the future of mid-drives. I definitely see myself buying one later. Just have to finish another maxed out BBSHD first. 🙂
woah does the bbshd overheat on 18s for you?
the cyc wasn't on 18s or 20s tho
Welches bike ist das wo der bbshd verbaut ist?
Scott Genius LT
I'm going to convert a bourdman mtr 8.8 to a bafang, can you advise what kit will fit the bourdman mtr, I think it's a 68mm BB cheers
68mm should fit mate
Yes 68mm is standard fit.
Not only alot of more power the issue iss the price of the motor
The CYC is made for running at 72v there is no point in running at 55v.
You can use CYC Gen2 with all batteries between 10S (36V) and 20S (72V) - no problem.
Hello what battery fit for the cyc x1 pro
14S batteries with lots of amps. If you want to get 3000W you need a battery (and bms) for 50A. We can build such a battery according to your wishes.
Hey! :) If you can build batteries, how big in size would be a 30 A/72 V battery?
I love your race test. You have an amazing GF if she’s willing to do this with you. Lock her down!
3000$ vs 500$
Demasiados cables por medio...
hmmm. Der CYC Antrieb sieht aber empfindlich in Sachen Sand, Steinchen und Schlamm aus…
This is NOT even close to compare these 2 motors.
GET YOUR HEAD ON STRAIGHT DUD
For it to be fare why not compare 2 equal motors because the cyc is rates at 2000 watts and bbshd is rates at 1000 watts so your NOT really comparing them you just need views and clicks is all why not compare the cyc stealth x1 to the bbshd its much more compatible in the output power at 1000 for bbshd and 1200 for the cyc stealth x1
Please watch and listen again, and you will know. ;-) (BBSHD power has been increased)
Bafang is better
cyc x1 pro GEN2 72v 5000w lol
Slow right?
Now I'm am glad I didn't buy it yet. Seeing your cyc display is a joke... And all Chinese in the app????
Really not much in it
Wenn schon Englisch dann mit deutschen Übersetzunger