2020 Jeep Gladiator vs Chevy ZR2 Bison: Watch These Off-Road Titans Battle it out in Moab, Utah!
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I've owned jeeps forever, but I've got to tell you my ZR2 is FANFUCKINGTASTIC! It keeps up with Rubicons on the trails PLUS
It hauls all my camping gear and fishing gear plus plenty of firewood. However the ZR2 really out shines the Jeep ON road. If you have to use your rig as a daily driver too the ZR2 is lightyears ahead.
Not mention a 4” lift is only 2k and you’re destroying that over priced pos off road to
Payload alone makes the canyonrado the king. Those are beastly little vehicles @ 30mpg!
Scott L Huh? Max payload on a Canyon is 1592. It’s 1600 on a gladiator. Max towing on this ZR2 is 5000. My Gladiator is nearly 7,700.
MK4vDubbin actually, for 2020, the Dmax, NON ZR2, Raydo is rated at 7700# towing.
@@MK4vDubbin sport is 7650 rubi drops
The ZR2 is so much better… it gives options: if you want protection at the cost of approach
then get just the ZR2 bison. Or vice versa) (in this video they NEEDED the regular ZR2 for these conditions)!! 9:11
Jeep community: they should put a 4BT Cummins!
Jeep:Nah
Chevy community: *says nothing*
Chevy: let’s put the duramax.
Chevy community: we kindly take it
which is based on the 2.8L CRD used in the jeep liberty and made by fiat
jeep used the 2.8l crd in australian (and european) jk wranglers and holden used them in the holden colorado (yes your chevy is based on a holden colorado) the 2.8lcrd are unreliable heaps of shit and will blow up at any time after 100,000km (60k miles)
@@6226superhurricane based yes. But massively redesigned.
4bt weighs 850ish pounds heavy!
The fact that the small truck segment price range is between $50k to $60k+ ,Utterly insane!
Not if you get a fully loaded Nissan Frontier Pro 4-X! They’re only $32k. I drive one and I love it. And does my wallet.
It isn't. Bought my Zr2 new for just under $40k
Chuck Cribbs exactly! I have a 2017 Frontier Pro-4x I love it, it has all the nice on a truck. Leather seats, heated seats, heated mirrors sun roof everything but has all the good stuff for off road. Engine is solid and it’s all around amazing truck.
Welcome to 2020. What isn't expensive these days?
@@MrMcGiblets1 Is yours a Bison?
I love jeeps but the Gladiator that I saw at the dealership last week had a sticker of 81k and change. Thats nuts. For the difference in price I would get the Bison, add a 5 inch lift and 37 inch tires and probably still be less than the jeep. I still wish jeep would bring back the scrambler.
One Bison, to go please.
Coming down the hill on 13:49 as well! You guys are amazing thank you for stopping and talking to me! 😍😍
I just bought a new ZR2! First brand new vehicle. Have a 96 Tacoma short box regular cab. Also have a 2010 Tundra also short box regular cab. Haven't had a GM since my 96 GMC Silverado. I do a lot of off roading (no mudding or bashing) and more often than not I pull my little offroad trailer. My wife and I camp almost every weekend in the Canadian Rockies and we get a lot of use out of our trucks and have become somewhat Toyota loyal. Needless to say I was actually a bit apprehensive looking at a Chev but I read a ton of reviews I test drove the ZR2 and was really impressed. I got a white one with the bed bar and lights and of course it had to have the same engine I test drove, the little turbo dmax. I get my truck on Tuesday. So excited! 😀😀😀
Daniel Quistberg same here I was always a Tacoma guy. I just got a new Canyon Denali and a absolutely love it. I’m 6.4 and I love all the leg room. I’ve had 5 Tacos over the years and every time they give it an update they get cheaper made. Toyota is living off the rep of the old ones like your 96. They would outlast the whole body and keep running.
When speaking off road, you can’t just focus on engine output with regards to torque. Transmission gear ratios, transfer case reduction and axle ratio all play a part in determining torque at wheel. The Jeep has a 4:1 t-case vs. 2.72 for the Chevy.
And the Pentastar has an unbelievably flat torque curve (one of the flattest in the industry). As such, torque at the wheels and controllability should be perfect.
@@corystansbury More horsepower than torque? That is as wrong as you get for a Jeep!
@@scarhart53 my diesel ZR@ (after tune) dynos at 240 hp and 450 lb/ft.
You didn't show the Off-road display or even that it is activated on the 2, 4H, 4L selector. That display also shows pitch and roll angles like the Jeep.
That camera washing mechanism needs to go on every vehicle with a backup camera. lol
Except that the squirter mechanism only is only on the front trail camera. Wierd
@@simonnystrom8137 you said squirter 😂😆😄. Sorry I'm a big kid.
If you guys didn't get the hint at the end, They chose Chevy but did not directly say it. They are filming in MOAB and participating in the Easter Jeep Safari in MOAB so... TFL cannot simply and directly say that the Chevy Bison is the better buy here. (Hint = Roman changing his Jeep shirt to a Chevy shirt at the end)
Yep, they both tapped the Bison.
Every truck will have advantages/disadvantages. We all knew what was going to happen with the lines taken when testing the departure etc. Both are nice rigs, just drive em’ knowing their limitations and that’s when they will both truly shine in different scenarios. It’s like comparing a short wheel base jeep to a long wheel base - we all know the deal. Great to see the protection doing its job. Nice video - cheers 🍻👍
For once I'd like to see a test on these types of trucks in the east in the forests and the mud instead of sand and rock.
That has more to do with tires than the truck’s capability. Doing off roading obstacles is a better indicator of off road capability
The dude from Canada hits the mud tfl Canada
ruclips.net/video/WgYGBk00_iE/видео.html
Here's another one where a stock sahara on street tires kicked the ZR2's ass ruclips.net/video/kQQF5kBMgPU/видео.html
@@sinepari9160 I wouldnt say beat its ass... no where close but alright... fan boys will be fan boys
At $63,000 for the Launch edition, I would rather get a Power Wagon. ‘Cause Power Wagon doesn’t care!
It don't make it up Cliff hanger either (watch the review) ZR2 does lol. My money is on the Chevy.
@@allenheaps2084 I saw that video. Like Nathan I was sad that day. The ZR2 is a pretty awesome truck.
I got a ram 3500 with a cummins 55k reg cab 8 ft box 1000 lb ft....after seeing jeep glad was 57k after all discounts
Agreed. Then put 35-37" tires on it. Unstoppable...
If your going to leave it stock, ZR2 (non bison) is the best choice. If you want big lifts you know Jeep will be the path.
daren s Jeep doesn’t even need a lift. Clears 37’s bone stock easily,
If the price would be similar one would have to think before choosing. Much better value in the ZR2.
Maybe at launch, but the jeep would have a better resale value.
@@triangleofdeath6246 doubt it.
This is why i watch this channel. Love the off-road reviews!
The ZR2 is the lesser known BETTER truck for overall duties. I've towed cars, trailers, gone WAY off road and it never missed a beat. 24MPG later, it's still ticking along.
How big of a car did u tow with it?
@@tl5108 Civic Type R (new one)
I love both these trucks... I do own a ZR2. I don’t think you can go wrong with either..
Chevy wins, love the Zr2 and the Diesel. Could live without the Bison package. For the ridiculous price of that Jeep you could get a 2500HD Duramax.
Prices are absolutely insane on most new vehicles. You guys didn't give any opinions or winner?
I think it’s hard for them to say at a $10,000 dollar difference and both working for Jeep. That the Chevrolet diesel wins hands down!
Add 2k for a 4” lift on the Chevy and you’re still under priced. 65k for a Jeep 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@epeterson2448
If you actually equip the Chevy like a decently equipped Rubi, the price difference is less than that.
Around where I live they state 10k markup on all Jeep pickups right up front. I wouldn’t buy one. As a matter of fact I’ll never buy another Chrysler product due to their high markup. At least not new anyways.
E Peterson Rubicon gladiators are all over the place for $50k now. I wouldn’t buy a Rubi anyways but still.
billy ???? Popped into a dealer just to look at one up close. They were wanting to discount them already. I’m not a Jeep guy though lol. Did get a cool little catalog with a Gladiator shaped multi tool just for looking 👍🏻
It’s been a while eversince I saw Nathan and Roman doing a review together. It’s always entertaining and informative watching these two reviewing a car. Keep up the good work guys 👍👍👍👍
That Bison is a pretty cool truck but for me the Gladiator takes the cake. I mean there is something great about popping off the top and the doors on a summer afternoon. The Jeep can do anything
Yeah like leak water into the cab in a light rainstorm
...except look good.
The reason you said you would take the Jeep is the same reason high school girls buy jeeps. Just sayin.
@@andyham6094 high school girls who aspire to be hip soccer moms.
@@andyham6094 Haha. Maybe but you clearly have never owned a Jeep
The zr2 is the better truck on the road, which is where i spend most of my time . So for that reason and cost I would go with it . Fwiw , I currently own a 2dr wrangler jk and I love it
I agree. Same situation.
Smart post. Buy a Prius.
1:15 ..."at the end of this video we're going to tell you which one we'd buy if it were our money"
Did I miss something? Never saw/heard what you would choose.
It's the GMC because it's not FCA...
That is EXACTLY correct. Just more Click Bait BS
@Goddess Sky I can tell you from experience. I have a JK and a couple GMC sitting in my driveway. The Jeep Wrangler is a total pile of shit vehicle. FCA can't make a car that's worth a shit after 4-5 years while the GMC hold their value.
@@scottleggejr
GMC holds their value? Lol. My 2017 Chevy dropped $6000 in value after two years. So...
@@Sig721Tau go buy anything Chrysler ram Dodge Jeep and watch it fall off a cliff!
79 series LC dual Cab Ute (v8 turbo diesel). That's THE ULTIMATE truck. Let's not even begin with anything else.
This is the truth. 79 Series LC beats them all.
TFL >>> you have no idea how invaluable your vehicle reviews are to me and the rest of the public; we are very grateful for all of the time and effort that you all at TFL do to bring this footage to us, thank you, thank you, thank you! Obviously, the ideal situation for when one is considering the purchase of a new vehicle is to be able to view and test drive the vehicle in person. However, even with a test drive there are a lot of things that one will be unable to learn; here's where you guys come in ... thanks to your testing of vehicles in their respective elements we get to learn a great deal more than we ever could with any ordinary test drive. By viewing a certain vehicle in different videos that you have prepared one is able to get a very good idea about the pluses and minuses of a vehicle. Allow me to elaborate ... me myself upon viewing the Jeep Gladiator at a car show I was quite impressed. But I am obviously at a disadvantage with the manufacturer who makes sure that their vehicle is positioned "just so" and the lighting is perfect and the stance, etc. an attendee at such an event has no chance ;-) Then the more I got to see this vehicle reviewed, the more I could see unappealing aspects of it. In the case of other vehicles it was the opposite, I ended up developing an appreciation for something that I had initially thought was not so good, or that I had no particular interest in. So ... believe me, what you guys at TFL do is very, very invaluable and we are very very grateful to all of your efforts and presentations; because no matter whether we agree with your comments and reviews or not, we are learning a great deal thanks to you. So once again, I thank you TFL team for all of your time and effort that you put into bringing us this wonderful material, you guys are awesome! ;-)
I love my ZR2. I'm glad I didn't wait for the Gladiator. I think it looks cool, but a little funny. Also, 63,000 is way too much. I got a midnight edition with the sports bar and lights for 42K. No way I'm spending that much on a truck that can't compare to a Raptor.
Can the Raptor rock climb? You're debating apples and oranges Jeeves.
I mean in terms of rock climbing and off roading it’s honestly better. Raptor looks nicer but for a raptor with the same features you’re talking 72k almost 80 with tax. I got my zr2 for 41k brand new.
How’s that zr2 holding up?
@@JG-mg3if I still love it. Dealership tries to buy it back every time I'm there.
@@carlosvelez8750 What you got. The diesel or gas n how many miles on her you got. I’m trying to get me a midsize truck in the next few months. I want the diesel but it sounds like you really need to be on top of your maintenance game! I also like the Ridgeline. Thanks for the reply..
New imperial weight unit...the Tommy, which is roughly equivalent to "a buck 20" or (1/2 x AEV skid plates)
Nice.
So 1 Tommy equals roughly 2?
@@samjohnson9894 It depends on the density altitude
Both trucks are fantastic. They both have their ups and downs, but overall good products.
Both suck bring in the Toyota
Jeep is way too long, way too heavy, way too underpowered, way too overpriced.
@@marsoneonone1234 you said underpowered what?
@@marsoneonone1234 offroad i would take the bison over the TRD pro Tacoma
@@ivalterbaptista2305 same
We need the J6; standard cab, 6’ bed, solid axles, manual trans, crank windows, soft top, 37”s!!!!
Marshall Williams The big problem would be the price. If I couldn't justify the price for the Bison ( which I can't) then that goes double for what Jeep would demand for a J6 spec'd out to match. The way FCA's finance's look like lately, you know darn well they wouldn't discount anything in the Wrangler line, especially if it's got a Rubicon badge slapped on its ass. Jeep and Ram are the only things FCA'S got that's making them money.
Make it happen Jeep and it better not cost 50k in Canada
THats why Id get the sport with no options. No power locks windows backup camera or anything. That right there would be on par with a jlu or a gladiator of the same specs. $35k
I am with you on all this except the manual, would love a manual but paired with the 3,6 it is no good .Jeep has ruined the manual experience .
Leaf springs in the back instead off coils and you have me sold
Remember Roman gears multiply torque. Horsepower is the rate work is done. torque is NOT always what you need when 4x4ing. Thats why you have a two speed transfer case. Try some soft dune sand in 4 low vs 4 hi to see the major difference.
You just touched on one of my major pet peeves. Folks, in an engine that's turning, horsepower and torque are intimately related. At each and every rpm, from bogged down below idle to way off the top of redline, your engine makes torque. Take that torque (in foot-pounds), multiply by the rpm you're turning at that instant, and divide by 5252. That gives you the horsepower you're making. There are 52 cards in a deck, so it's an easy number to remember.
People that think "it has plenty of horsepower but not enough torque" are really saying "I need (or need to use!) a lower gear".
Remember, kids - a 2010-2015 Prius has 500 ft-lbs but only 150 HP. It's not doing big, smokey burnouts, is it? (The electric motors make max torque at zero rpm...)
I will admit that a "peaky" engine, one that makes max torque near redline, isn't pleasant to drive. But I'll maintain that what people casually call a "torquey" engine is really just one that won't keep making torque as it revs. A good and very readable discussion is at www.epi-eng.com/piston_engine_technology/power_and_torque.htm
In the U.K. you can buy the JL with a 2.2 Diesel with 197bhp and 332lb/ft of torque.
So? How's she doing on the Ike gauntlet fully loaded?
That's because in Murcia diesels do not compute. Especially after Volkswagon.
What is JL?
As a Toyota Owner... i can say.... Yota has to step up their Off road game...
I thought the bison was already spendy af for a mid sized, FCA, "hold my beer!"
Seems to me almost every new truck is massively overpriced.
You guys sure are some fan boys. Until I see either of these being used to cut across Australia/ Africa maybe then I’ll consider any of these
We pick up our white Bison Friday. So excited
Great white buffalo 🐃
Sweet ! 👍👍👍
Update? How's the truck trating you brother?
You guys always forget about the Rubicon having a 4:1 low range, that makes a big difference when crawling. Great episode though!
Sure, it has a good low range. But at what point do the front CV joints give out from being locked, turned, flexed, and in low range.
Low range is only really important when you need more torque.
Both of these in low range have enough to climb a wall.
@@johnarcher9480 Solid axle.. no CVs on the Gladiator.
@@johnarcher9480 Jeep has been using 4:1 low ranges since 2002, no real issues. The 4:1 really comes in handy when you go to larger tires, and to give better control when crawling at low speeds.
Yuppies don't know nuttin about gear reduction
Yes you have to consider all factors not just one.
Henderson NV To Santa Clarita CA 500 Mile round trip at the speed limit 26.0 MPG 2018 ZR2 2.8 Diesel.
Gah, I can’t wait to be back in a 4x4!!! Thanks everyone for the videos! It lets me live vicariously.
I'll keep my original 2019 zr2. I love it...!!!
Same, love my black Bison!
I’ve had my satin steel Bison for 10 days now. Amazing truck.
$63,000 for a Jeep Wrangler with a bed? I think for that price range I’d rather have a Ford Raptor with 450 horsepower, but that’s just me !
justinloughrie15 They’re not even in the same segment. Plus you can’t take the doors and roof off the raptor
Agreed
WGAS whether you can take the doors and roof off!! For that money a Raptor is the only choice. Now for 35-40, the ZR2 is a solid option.
$63k is only the launch edition. the Gladiator starts at $34k and the Rubicon is like $45k I think.
David Kutschke Yeah but that 45k is no options. You will get to 60 real quick. The ZR2 only comes loaded. You can get a base Colorado for 28k
Move that exhaust out I'd the way and put the spare in the bed then change the front bumper to the standard zr2 bumper and it'll clear tons more.
Wouldn't you just buy a zr2 at that point? The bison was made for overlanding and not hardcore rock crawling. The armor is just so you make it home at the end of the day.
@@aaron5222 exactly. I'd rather get a normal zr2 and buy the plates to add on rather than the bison and take off the bumper. But they had a bison in the video and getting rid of that bumper would be best thing for them with what they had
So the regular ZR2 with the off-road bars and spare in the bed? That's a factory package, cheaper than the Bison actually
I've been with you guys since the beginning and it was great to FINALLY get to review products like these. Competition is great! My family absolutely loves our Zr2!
Zr2 Any day!
Bison, all the way
I don't feel the launch edition really reflects how much the average model would cost.
Joshua Jeremy you can easily spec a wrangler to be over $60k. I work at a jeep dealership, and they are very common.
@@theonlybucko They said the launch edition is a fully loaded Rubicon with a few thousand added due to being the first ones
Joshua Jeremy No it’s a fully loaded Rubicon with a badge paying homage to the original, black leather with red stitching on the instrument panel and dash, and special gloss black aluminum wheels.
It was little over 62,00 which about same as a regular Rubicon with most of the options.
According to Forbes they already filled out all 4,150 of the customer orders on the first day.
The website configurator has more reasonable prices.
57k for a loaded Overland model.
For $10k you could get a pair of nice dirbikes to throw into the back of the Colorado.... or a small travel trailer to park at a nearby campground. I would take the Chevy.
I have a 18' Colorado in Z71 trim that would do that trail without a problem though. Paid $32,500 OTD for it new. Removed the airdam and added sliders and skids for about $650. I will wait until I rip off the bumpers before buying some. I would not make the wife angry that way! lol
I can get the Bison bumper directly from AEV now as well as the skids. So that is an option as well. Would be much cheaper when placed on the Z71 trim. Would just be mission a few things like a front locker... until you add your own.
I own a Colorado and I'll say Chevy's aren't the most reliable or anything. But there's no way I'd pick a Jeep over a Chevy lol... Also, look at them. ZR2 is gorgeous.
Definitely helping me make a choice between the two............the ZR2 Bison is winning.
i like the way how the bison looks
Honestly I would buy the ZR2 Diesel and do the mods yourself. AEV was restricted in what they were allowed to do for crash testing. Save alot of money. I just wish you could put 35s on it without a lot of trimming.
This would also be a good comparison on the tires, Falkens Wildpeak AT3/W vs Goodyear Duratrac.
Did he say he gives equal love to all brands. That's a funny guy.😅😅😅😅😅
Pontiac Aztec
Cross Born modern Subaru’s are junk.
Grow-a-set quality and safety of a modern Subaru vs modern jeep....ya ur funny lol. Enjoy your death wobble and electrical gremlins in your fca product
Cross Born but he gave Subaru a chance, they just failed miserably... as they always do
SQ8warrior confused as to where I said I liked Jeep ? I would agree they’re also junk. Nothing more than a lifted fiat. I don’t even like Subaru’s and I’d still drive one over a Jeep.
Great video. Both amazing trucks that performed equally well.
most people that go crawling usually pick a line that doesnt go straight down something that they might get caught up on.. if you use the articulation the vehicle has then you can go with minimal scrapes and dragging
As a former tactical motor vehicle operator/instructor, I agree. Articulation also isn't quite as important with traction-aided diffs at both ends, as military HMMWVs have shown with their torque-biasing diffs and full independent suspensions. Taking those approaches and departures at an angle, where possible, would minimize the scraping. One just has to be more careful to not roll.
Good video. The new Gladiator is awesome! Cameras and removable roof are nice to have but the ZR2 is the best bang for the buck off roader on the market right now.
My next Truck ZR2 for sure great looking truck ... the gladiator looks like a model T pickup go look for your self lol
I knew there was something familiar about it!
Jeep should put out a throwback edition with a hand crank starter!
Looks like the old military trucks. Paint it Army Green with a big white stars on the front door.
The Gladiator is hideous.
Everyone will complain that this is a diesel vs. gas. But what about the fact that the Bison is sold out. Meaning if you didn’t already buy one, you won’t be.
Can still buy them on dealer lots
Ivan Rodriguez and probably with a stupid added dealer mark up since dealers know the build out is done.
Great comprehensive tests.....considering your time limitation with the trucks...thanks!!!
You never gave us a verdict as to which one you would "spend your own money" on...!
Holy frame flex on the Bison on that downhill, he hit that hitch hard.
like jello
Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison-Eagle Claw Demon- Slayer Shit-kicker will be the next model.
J R where do I sign up? 😂😂
Both of them are AWESOME!! I'm just glad that the BIG 3 ( only 2 of them in this video) are still making bad ass trucks for us to choose from. My money would go to the Jeep though. So many aftermarket mods available to make it awesome. Would be nice to see Jeep offer a factory 2 to 3 inch lifted version to get a better break-over angle.
Dealers are always stocking lifted jeeps with warranties.
For the money I am
Buying the zr2
For the money, I'm buying a used truck and banking the rest
Im buying a Tacoma TRD
@@TheAlphapuck5280 I got a 2016 TRD off road 4wd. Awesomeness
@@mannymotta2174 so you have already been robbed of your money lol
@@Jake_Hynds what do you mean?
I can't wait to see more of the new 2023 zr2. That thing looks great it could use a few more ponys under the hood but I'm sure the aftermarket will take care of that
ZR2 is what I would buy, wouldn't even look at that Jeep honestly
...when I look at the Gladiator, I get sick to my stomach...
You need see a dr preferably a psychiatrist
@@kidamere2408 Why do I need to see a doctor? I'm not the one who designed that nasty thing...
@@NukePooch1 if a design of a car makes you sick to your stomach you may need a dr all im saying
I own a Wrangler JL along with another primary daily driver vehicle, a Ford Expedition. I would not recommenced a Jeep JL/Gladiator if its going to be your only vehicle or daily driver. The upright windshield and solid front axle make for a harsh ride on roads above 55mph. The Jeep is a specific purpose vehicle. The Chevy is a more versatile vehicle and a better bang for the buck.
I feel like, if they don't exist already, someone should invent a small, solid bar roller that goes inside the trailer hitch so that the truck rolls down the departure rather than scraping the hitch.
The Jeep may have less torque on paper, however, it does come with higher torque multiplication in form of a super low range transfer case (84:1 crawl ratio).
AEV release the video explaining the situations and limitations that Chevy put on them that limited approach angles and departure angles because of regulations.
My current 4wd is a Nissan Frontier Pro-4x. It's a capable truck but I can't justify using it to it's full offroad potential. I take the safe line or turn back if things get too rough going. That brings me to my point. I'm too stressed out piloting a $30k rig through serious obstacles. I was a lot happier wheeling my old, beat up
Price on both these are ridiculous especially the jeep when you can get a Power Wagon or Raptor for less or a Rebel for way less that's crazy.
In what world can you get a decent Raptor for cheaper than this? You can get a base model Raptor for less if you're lucky, but put anything on a Raptor and it jumps to $70K+...
TFL truck tester, BEST JOB EVER!!!
The ZR-2 is the better truck by far. the Jeep is cool, but that front suspension is a deal breaker.
Except off road it offers way more flex and travel. But i get most people just buy offroad trucks to drive to the grocery store.
Wrangler has a superior front suspension.
Boron!!! Lol that’s where I grew up! Good old Boron California.
I love my Chevy but, that exhaust is just BEGGING for a hacksaw! WHY!?
That's hilarious same happens to me to when I get a newer truck 😂😂😂
The 3.0-liter EcoDiesel engine will be available starting in 2020. Gladiator models will offer the 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V-6 engine, rated at 260 horsepower and 442 lb-ft (599 N·m) of torque, with ESS standard. An eight-speed automatic transmission is standard and is designed to handle the increased torque output.
Land Rover should really watch this. They really need some inspiration.
their still working on making their vehicles reliable enough to get the customer all the way home from the dealership after the deal closes
I love how @ 4:12 you can see how someone has bent the hell out of the chain eyelets on the “Off Road” version of the Gladiator.
i think ram should bring back an all new dakota and enter the mid sized truck game again
I heard they were
It'll be on the same platform of the gladiator if they do
at 3:19. Love how they cut it just before he smashes the bed down on that roller.
That’s so true. I never noticed it Until you said something lol
Nathan, in all that discussion about torque... were you guys running in 4lo? Doesn't the Jeep have a 4:1 while the Bison is 2.72 or something?
@ihategooglespooks that's what I thought. I'd take gas and 4:1 over diesel and 2.7:1 for sure
My son has a 2018 ZR2 that he bought used for 34k. Great truck. I like it as well as my 6 inch lifted Silverado. Only problem for me is I need the extra towing capacity of the full size truck plus I really love the rumble of the big V8 with my borla exhaust.
Oh shoot you got the Duramax.. Best video ever.
Perfect timing! This is my exact decision. (Leaning non-Bison ZR2 Diesel.)
Do it. I just got a ZR2 diesel a few weeks ago and it's been great.
Man, 63k for the Jeep. I really kind of want one but I'll have to wait 20 years when it's like 2k lol.
20 year old jeeps aren't selling for 2k now so good luck with that.🤣😂😅🙄
@@jimbotheassclown Right, because 20 years ago Jeeps were good vehicles and made well. But these new Jeeps and vehicles in general are too technically advanced and expensive to fix so they are going to be worth next to nothing in 20 years when the thousands of dollars of computers start failing and or corroding lol.
@@dedalliance1 Yeah, that's what people said 20 years ago. And 20 years before that....
@@blaises1748 Not really because 20 years ago a high tech feature was cruise control and abs. Now high tech features is cylinder deactivation and computers that run everything from the Engine to the transmission to the exhaust system. Now as a new vehicle owner I hope that all this technology is made well and will last, but if we're being honest it probably won't because they design things to have an 'expected lifespan' and that's pretty short because the longer your vehicle runs the longer it will be until the vehicle manufacturers make money again from your new purchase.
dedalliance1 dedalliance1 again, same argument was made 20 years ago when “damn computers are running the motor, i want carburetors!”
Quality control is better than ever and cars are lasting longer than ever. 20 years ago Jeeps were not well made vehicles compared to today are you joking!!?!!?? Hahaha go drive a TJ or XJ of that era and compare it to a modern one.
Regardless these won’t be $2k in 20 years, and you’ll have missed out on 20 years of tech. I’ll keep driving my nice, modern, reliable vehicles with the best designs yet....
Way better review on these vehicles than Edmunds! Edmunds didn't even seem to know what they were talking about and contradicted themselves. TFL knows their stuff!!
Actual payload on the Glad Jeep is 1200 lbs or less depending on transmission choice.
Loved how Nathan kept shouting, "boron!" 😅
looks like fun! Especially when it's not your truck!
Boron is good for bumpers and skid plates. And that’s all it should be put in!! I’m saying this from 22 years as a fire rescue and first responder ⛑ it makes our job so much harder when they put it in the A pillars and B pillars. Of most new vehicles. The new jaws of life are amazing and will cut through anything except boron but vehicle manufacturers don’t seem to care 🤔☹️
Tall tires also make approach and departure angles better or worse as well.
Yup. Just saw a company post where they had a 45° departure on a gladiator because of the lift and tires. I can't remember who it was though... Maybe skyjacker?
@@USAFJUNKIE i know what you're talking about but can't remember the name as well...but what happened when someone else tested it gave them a bad departure angle
That exhaust tip ain't BORON @ 12:22
OUCH.
Also, the Winner is . . . . . ??????
2 door j6 and I'm sold. Not digging a 20 foot long jeep. Of course that's just an exaggeration
That ZR2 is bad ass
Great video. I think you guys should do a comparison video with the Bison again when the Wrangler diesel is available. However, I've thoroughly enjoyed the presentation and entertained per usual!
Keep it up!
Before buying my ZR2, I had a '12 JK Rubicon and my wife had a wonderful '14 Grand Cherokee Overland Diesel with ORII variable suspension. My Wrangler had the head replaced within 6 months but otherwise held up OK. Great off road, but a terrible vehicle on road. Back seat passengers, even in the 4-dr., are subjected to torture. ;) The JGC Diesel was an amazing vehicle, both on road and off and you couldn't find a better tow vehicle. Problem is that the Chrysler diesel emission control system just doesn't work. Ours built up so much soot that the engine caught on fire at about 50k miles. The DEF system in general is subject to constant problems on both the Jeep and the Ram 1500's. I'd only want the Gladiator with the diesel - but I'd never buy another Chrysler diesel. My ZR2 has been great. Comfortable to travel over the highway, OK towing, and great off road. Here's the vid on my ZR2 build. ruclips.net/video/EnLhbafX1n0/видео.html
Finally an exciting video TFL!!
ZR2 all year round!