Fujifilm X-H2s VS. Fujifilm X-H2: Can You Really "See" The 40 Megapixels?

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  • @HVRIS
    @HVRIS 9 месяцев назад +1

    I keep coming back to this video. Really helpful! Thanks a lot :)

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  9 месяцев назад +1

      Means a lot coming from you man! You're an OG Fujifilm RUclipsr! Appreciate you bro. Hope you're well!

    • @HVRIS
      @HVRIS 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@oxeneers I can’t believe people still remember me! I haven’t posted in awhile due to personal commitments, but I will be back! 🙏

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  9 месяцев назад

      Can't wait man! You have incredible footage... you're great at telling stories too~@@HVRIS

  • @cbschrader
    @cbschrader Год назад +6

    I initially bought the X-H2 and then quickly sold that and went with the X-H2s. Besides the promise of very slightly better autofocus and dynamic range, I really didn’t want a ton of large file sizes taking up space on my memory cards or computer.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад

      That's awesome! Did you try the 3.01 update yet?

    • @cbschrader
      @cbschrader Год назад

      @@oxeneers Nope, still on Ver.3.00. Didn’t seem like it had anything but a couple of minor bug fixes, so I am not in a rush for that one. Next time I connect my phone to the camera, I’ll do it I guess. Still learning how to best deal with the PASM dial. Takes some getting used to after having used the X100s, X-T3, and X-Pro3 for the last 10 years.

    • @kmb1659
      @kmb1659 Год назад +2

      same here - so many peolpe on the internet say, that the xh2 is a no brainer if u do more stills and same for the xh2s if u do more videography work... but I have to say, that the xh2S is the perfect stills cam in my opinion: great for every usecase incl. wildlife and sports. The xh2 is amazing but lacks a bit afc when doing wildlife whereas the "more" resolution isnt realy a big thing for landscape and portrait

    • @cbschrader
      @cbschrader Год назад

      @@kmb1659 Yeah, I’m with you 100%. I’m much more of a stills guy too. Isn’t it funny how the previous models were fine for photography at their “low” resolution, but now suddenly it’s inadequate. I would definitely rather have better autofocus and less rolling shutter for the few times I do shoot video. Oh, and not have the even larger file sizes.

  • @greggpedder
    @greggpedder Год назад +8

    The differences are so small no client is ever going to tell, and certainly wouldn't be able to pick out one or the other in a double blind test.
    I think if you *need* more detail than the X-H2s can give you, then the logical step would be GFX rather than higher mpix APSC .

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      Totally well said. You’re exactly right! I do enjoy the recomposing power of being able to crop a lot but the X-H2s is definitely marginally better in low light.

    • @stevenbamford5245
      @stevenbamford5245 Год назад +1

      But why not go to the X-H2 in the first place if you're a stills shooter ? Why bother with the 2s ? In fact, it's a better compliment to have alongside the GFX .

    • @greggpedder
      @greggpedder Год назад +1

      @Steven Bamford Faster sensor readout speed and better High ISO performance are more of an advantage than 14 extra mpix. And I'm a video shooter as well so the XH2s is the better choice for me, but doesn't give much away for stills either.

    • @stevenbamford5245
      @stevenbamford5245 Год назад

      @greggpedder Sensor speed on the X-H2 isn't a slouch, and the iso is marginal .If you can get a higher resolution, why not ?
      Especially for landscape, architecture, and studio.

    • @greggpedder
      @greggpedder Год назад

      @@stevenbamford5245 More rolling shutter and slower AF performance. And the X-H2 doesn't do 4k120!

  • @dermcarberry6793
    @dermcarberry6793 Год назад +3

    Thanks for this. The big thing I see is the rolling shutter on the X-H2 @5:04. The faster sensor in the X-H2s eliminates this.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад

      I noticed this too! I usually film with my X-H2s but decided to film with the X-H2 today. Thanks for pointing that out, good catch. Another score for the X-H2s hha.

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue Год назад

      Ohhh so that’s what it is

  • @SummersSnaps
    @SummersSnaps Год назад +2

    Hey Dylan, thanks for doing this and thanks for repping Flickr! (Flickr doesn't get the amount of love and respect it should!).
    I just wanted to report that I have been keeping an eye on this issue, and I agree with your findings (despite not owning the cameras). How can 40mp NOT be better, BUT... how MUCH better is another thing, and your final shot with the headphones I think showcases something interesting. As it has been manually focused, the bokeh balls are actually different sized and this TINY bit of focus inaccuracy can really inflate the results between the two cameras. You got lucky in some ways that the XH2 landed focus better on the ear foam than the XH2S did, otherwise it could well have looked like the XH2S resolved this shot better! But all the other shots, time and time again it was close but the XH2 got the nudge.
    But... I'm sure a tiny nudge of +5 texture, +10 sharpening (on the XH2S) would have put them on par, and how much larger are these 40mp files? And what are things looking like at 1600 and 3200 ISO? Does a switch happen at all and the XH2S starts winning a little more on the low light/higher ISO IQ field?
    As an XT4 owner I am a little disappointed with the releases from Fuji this year. I was hoping that the XH2 resolution would be significant, but it feels really ever so slight, to the point that it might actually be a step backwards if we consider file sizes and low light/higher ISO IQ. I shall likely pass on 2022 Fuji offerings and start saving for XH3's or Xpro4's..
    Thanks again, yours is the first A/B done well imo. The others have too many variables and even ever so slight difference in focus obtained makes the results practically invalid and I suspect this is the main cause of trouble.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      Yes!! What's your Flickr page, I'd love to follow you!!
      Interesting thoughts. The lens is so finicky and a weird one to begin with, I'm not surprised to see issues. Like I said, it was on the same manual focus "hatch mark" and the tripod didn't move but you never know. Weird.
      And yes, I've run through my X-H2s shots through Topaz noise and sharpening and even the Gigapixel and it gets into the same ballpark as the X-H2. But I hate using that software as I find it clunky and interrupts my workflow. But you're 100% right there. You can get the results.
      As an X-T4 owner, I hear you. It's a weird pathway to "upgrade". I kind of liken it to being a phone user, you won't get the new generation of phone/handset each year, but every 2 years (or generations), it might be worth the upgrade. I think that's where X-T4 owners are at right now - waiting for the next generation since your current camera is so strong. I appreciate all your thoughts man and insightful comment. Also, thanks a lot for watching and giving me some love. See you on Flickr!!!

  • @EdwardMartinsPhotography
    @EdwardMartinsPhotography Год назад +1

    There was a great controversy when the 36mp FF cameras came along as well. A lot of people couldn't see the difference between them and the 24mp cameras. 5 years later and here we are again. Except now nobody questions that 45mp's is what you need for FF and 60 is better. Wonder what changed? (Same thing will happen with the APS-c 40mp sensors.)
    Good demonstration, I wouldn't have used the lenses wide open, but you demonstrated the increase in resolution with the 40mp's. Pixel peeping, yeh, no point in buying a 40mp Fuji. But when you print your images, the increase in IQ becomes apparent really quickly.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +2

      Interesting thoughts! There's always controversy in the "megapixel race" (we still call it that?) these days it seems. We are humans, cyclical creatures, haha. Back again. This is such new territory (at a massive scale) for 40MP on APS-C that it's very interesting to see the discussion around it all. Thanks for watching and commenting man! Really appreciate your thoughts.

  • @bathygao
    @bathygao Год назад

    The ability to shoot in 8k Prores LT then come back home and apply stabilization (with hotshoe gyro data) and crop, then still have an oversampled 4k video is the key to my decision to keep the H2 over H2S, 40MP still and 8k video just give you so much room for post for your final product.

  • @JerredZ
    @JerredZ Год назад +2

    Nice man! Both are awesome cameras. Pretty much all cameras in 2022/23 are awesome cameras. We are all (including - especially me) being too picky sometimes! I still have old Canon 10D files that I have blown up to 30, 40 inches that were shot in good light... so yeah. I am super guilty of buying all these new cameras. ALTHOUGH - the difference in GFX is a heavy-hitter. Going back to non-gfx files can be depressing sometimes! HA!

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      Yep exactly!! We are definitely too picky. Like I said - it's a wild time to be alive, right? We have all this incredible technology and we're guilty of sitting here pixel peeping and overanalyzing this stuff. But, for me, that's the fun part too haha. I talked to a CMOS engineer the other day and he was telling me just how wild stacked sensors are and the engineering that goes into it - and here we are testing these marvels of engineering side-by-side with photos of shit on my desk hahaah! Wild times. And yes, to your GFX point, there's nothing else like it. I pick up my GFX and get blown away EACH time with the results. Spoiled rotten we are :)

    • @JerredZ
      @JerredZ Год назад

      @@oxeneers Spoiled beyond reason! HA! Love it man. And those stacked sensors... I can't even wrap my head around half the stuff that goes on. I love the technical stuff, but I also don't have time or, probably the brain power, to really focus in on that stuff! HA!

  • @DanFarrar
    @DanFarrar Год назад +1

    I’m really hoping they put that Xh2s sensor in the xpro4. Great comparison Dylan!

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      You know, wouldn't that be something? But I think Fujifilm is saving that sensor for the X-H2s. With their current market model, they'd have to do an X-Pro4 and X-Pro4s to have it all make sense. But who knows, they've confused people before - remember the X-E2 and X-E2s? Hhaha.

    • @DanFarrar
      @DanFarrar Год назад

      @@oxeneers I’m hoping Fuji will deck it out with “street camera” in mind. Skip the lcd completely and put max effort into the OVF/EVF. Throw on a f-ing flash onboard and sync it fast. Stabilized with fast focus. If I’m not mistaken the newer Fuji lenses that handle the 40 mpx are also bigger…not good for street…hence the hope for 26 mpx lol. And…I want really really good slo-mo video…stabilized, 4K, 120. Oh, and lastly, I want Fuji to bake RAW files with film simulations as an output. Not asking much right? lol

  • @uateva
    @uateva Год назад +1

    Personally, I don’t see the difference at all and I'm not sure anyone would in a blind test. The last example is almost certainly due to slightly different focus point with the manual lens.
    The only advantage, and it's not a minor one, is the ability to crop further with the H2.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      Yeah, I hear you. And with the manual focus lens issue, it's interesting since they are both on the same tripod with the same quick release plate and the same aperture and focus mark. So, who knows. Could be something with the sensor difference? Likely not but interesting nonetheless. And yes, the cropping advantage is panned by many people (especially here on YT) but I find it incredibly useful to keep "as much" resolution as possible.

  • @burneshollyman2621
    @burneshollyman2621 10 месяцев назад +1

    I own Fuji's and love them. It is, no matter what, a brand that is putting the "film" back in Fuji Film. In that sense, it is an old-school novelty camera. But I think this shoot-out misses the larger points of doing a real functional comparison (vs. just doing pixel peeping with a non-Fuji lens that can't be seen on YT anyway due to poor resolution) and what each camera is intended for and the associated use cases. The Fujifilm X-H2 is for still and video shooters (e.g., wedding shooters) and is in the "hybrid" class of cameras (still + vid) that the industry now uses as a class of low-end cameras. Sony has owned this space for a while with fast focus, etc. as well as the high-end video space. That is the real story along with the video side of things and dual cards, head monitor jack, HDMI out, etc.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  10 месяцев назад

      This was filmed almost immediately after the releases. I am not an in-depth review channel and do not claim to be. But I agree with you. At the time of filming, there were not many other true "pixel peeping" videos showing the X-Trans V HR vs X-Trans V HS.

    • @burneshollyman2621
      @burneshollyman2621 10 месяцев назад

      I really like your videos so keep them coming! I heard one channel on YT say about this issue "Fuji has drawn a line in the sand. There are cameras for still and cameras for video." Well put.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  10 месяцев назад

      Very well said - thanks man, will do! Appreciate your comments!@@burneshollyman2621

  • @sozable
    @sozable Год назад +1

    I bought the XH2 because I needed a second camera That is compatible with all my X mount lenses. I had the choice between a 1800€ XT4 to complement my x-s10 or higher mp camera. I did not wanted the h2s because I had already a 26mp in my x-s10. Bought Xh2 + 33mm 1.4 for the Price of the xh2 only on black friday si great deal for me.
    + The ergonomics of H2 is more lookalike of the X-S10 which is like a little brother.Would be a lot différent learning curve if I had xt series camera + x-s10

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      You did well! The X-H2 is incredible man. The X-S10, like many have investigated here on YT, is actually the weaker Fujifilm camera in the lineup. This is because the IBIS is not as strong (not just on the spec sheet, but in practice) as the X-T4 or X-H2 series. Enjoy your camera, would love to see some of your shots - where can I find your work?

  • @matthewchute5514
    @matthewchute5514 Год назад +1

    great work, thanks man!

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад

      Thanks Matt! Appreciate the love!

  • @sarynellivalerin7691
    @sarynellivalerin7691 Год назад +1

    Appreciate your expertise!

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @MikeBanom
    @MikeBanom Год назад +1

    Really great video Dylan! Funny enough I have done a ton of comparisons between the 23mp files of the X-H1 and the 45mp files of the Nikon Z7. Similar results and thoughts. The Z7 had more detail, but it was so incredibly slight, and in the end I was always left being like… doesnt seem worth it. Very helpful to me though, I think I'm at the crossroads of go XH2s for video work, or go Sony 🤷‍♂

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад

      I think for video, you would be better off with the X-H2s. Something that's not often talked about a lot is the heft/weight/size of Sony FE lenses (the 3rd party options can be lighter for sure). You already have a hefty kit with the GFX, something more lightweight like the X-H2s and respective lenses would balance out that "kit" nicely. Just a thought!!

    • @MikeBanom
      @MikeBanom Год назад +1

      @@oxeneers You're just trying to keep me a 100% fuji fan boy! I respect that!

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      @@MikeBanom HAHAHA. Mainly because I can't stomach a "WHY I SWITCHED TO SONY" video then "I AM COMING BACK TO FUJIFILM" video 6 months later and your back surgeon telling us "It was because of the GFX + Sony kit weight in his bag sir, it did him in!"

    • @MikeBanom
      @MikeBanom Год назад

      @@oxeneers LOL!!!!!!! Ok… fair enough… i already have the lenses for XF, so very slim chance on the Sony switch ;)

  • @doghouseriley4732
    @doghouseriley4732 Год назад +2

    Great video. Do you have the 80mm macro? I ould be interested to see how it performs on each of the cameras.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      I have the 30mm Macro and have used it on both but have been very impressed with the X-H2 results, not so much with the X-H2s. But I should do a comparison of those too!

    • @fusion-frosty
      @fusion-frosty Год назад +1

      @@oxeneers Just watched, and as soon as you spoke about the 30mm macro.. 😁 Definitely would like to see that comparison 👍 and was wondering how the 30mm, 33 1.4, 56 1.2 WR/II would do as they were developed with this 40mp sensor in mind IIRC. Even the 150-600mm, being one of the newest - I haven't done a deep dive on these but I believe that resolves similar detail to the existing 100-400 (which was also close to the 70-300).
      I've recently settled on getting into the Fuji X system (balancing size/weight/perf/value) and leaning toward X-H2 as I'm mainly about stills, though, if the H2S price gap was closer I'd probably tip toward that (fast readout & full-sensor 20+ ES bursts). Possibly even the X-T5, with those silver & black good looks and dials, if it shared the buffer size and/or EVF of the H2/S.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      @@fusion-frosty I think between the X-H2 and X-T5, the X-H2 is the better camera unless you obsess over the dials. I hate the flip out screen but I've adjusted. The EVF alone is worth it - and I rarely used it because I hated the typical shitty EVF that's on most cameras. Here's a lot of photos with the new 56 and 30mm: ruclips.net/video/xMgdHlMnDZU/видео.html

    • @fusion-frosty
      @fusion-frosty Год назад

      @@oxeneers Yeah X-H2 is clearly specced better, I'd already decided to go X-H2/S for those reasons (better EVF, buffer, comfy & stabler grip), I should've used parenthesis on the X-T5 comment: IF the X-T5 had the EVF and/or buffer I'd be tempted + I do like the tactile dials (or at least having 3 programmable 📐 dials as w/the Canon bodies I've used).
      I certainly wouldn't mind X-H2S with it's silent, faster ES readout & un-cropped 20-40 FPS bursts either! But the H2 is a good base to start with I think, then maybe an H3/4/5 S down the line.. Now if they could add A7R V's all tilting, flipping & rotating screen too in future..
      I'll check your vid on my TV tonight! But definitely interested in some head-head detail comparisons of the 40mp vs. X-H2S (or X-T4 as I've seen elsewhere) using those new generation lenses 30 2.8, 33 1.4, 56 1.2 II. The recent Fujifilm USA workbench vid on the 33 2.8 macro states it's "designed to take advantage of that resolution as well as possible"
      ruclips.net/video/fe8zMvHQp2o/видео.html
      So that one at least, is begging for a comparison mounted X-H2 vs. X-H2S! 😉

  • @Tbonyandsteak
    @Tbonyandsteak Год назад +1

    Yes you can see the difference, 40 mp are more pinsharp over 26/24mp. Even 8 k you can see the difference over 4k. Try and compare those modes over reality. Quite easely 8k are closer to reality. You need a large HD monitor to see it more clearly.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      Agreed. I use an ASUS 4K ProArt display and it's very clear to me - and yet, many people in online Fujifilm circles say "There is no difference". Sorry, but like you said, there IS a difference. Thanks for your thoughts!!

    • @Tbonyandsteak
      @Tbonyandsteak Год назад

      @@oxeneers Especially in movies, when there are movements, the pixel transitions are just more smooth and natural in 8k.

  • @deepdas7168
    @deepdas7168 Год назад +1

    26mp is more than enough on my xt3 ❤️

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад

      Agreed! It's great -- BUT the extra resolution is fun :P

  • @Jgheiler
    @Jgheiler Год назад

    Great comparison. In high contrast environments with strong lights and shadows, which one would you think have better dynamic range? The 40mb sensor or the stacked sensor?

    • @byproduct8849
      @byproduct8849 Год назад

      the x-h2s hat 1 stop more dr. 14 instead of 13 on the x-h2

    • @Jgheiler
      @Jgheiler Год назад

      @@byproduct8849 is this for stills or video?

  • @NigelSwan
    @NigelSwan Год назад +2

    haha the 10-24 is even shit on 26MP, not wrong there.

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад +1

      I wouldn't say it's shit at all, but needs to be stopped down. Check Andy's video: ANDY MUMFORD’S VIDEO (XF10-24 COMPARISON):
      ruclips.net/video/E9zbKZksrnc/видео.html

    • @NigelSwan
      @NigelSwan Год назад

      @@oxeneers good point.

  • @Iamtongue
    @Iamtongue Год назад +2

    I see no difference on my iPhone 😅

    • @oxeneers
      @oxeneers  Год назад

      You need to buy the Fujifilm full frame camera then!!

  • @russellmann8297
    @russellmann8297 11 месяцев назад

    You lost me by using an off brand Chinese lens!!
    Failure To Launch!