"Europe is at stake, Ukraine is fighting OUR war", ex-NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- Former NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer discussed Russia's potential to invade the Alliance, whether Ukraine can win the war and what Europe should be doing today.
0:00 - The leak from the German military regarding arming Ukraine
1:53 - The hazards of Ukraine attacking Russian territory
3:38 - Is it too late to arm Ukraine now?
6:12 - Will NATO send troops to Ukraine?
8:43 - Ukraine needs not only arms but also manpower
10:45 - Can Ukraine still win this war?
13:55 - Will Putin attack NATO?
15:58 - Is there a peaceful way to deal with Putin?
17:56 - Are there plans in the West to persuade Ukraine to negotiate with Russia?
20:28 - Elon Musk questions NATO. Scheffer responds
23:08 - Will Donald Trump really withdraw the US from NATO?
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Dumb conversation about a peace plan, Russia is training their youth now
Germany needs to grow a pair and start acting like an economic superpower and become the military superpower that it should also be.
Germans should not even be allowed to have an army.They forgot how that wemt fotlr them TWICE😂😂😂
Again?
Germany, in the good old days, was a superpower. Today, Germany, including Eastern Germany, thanks to Gorbachev, Shevernadze, and Secretary Baker, ( USA ) is no longer a superpower. The German army is very small.
(65.000 troops)
Agree 100%. Right now, Germany is acting like a kitty cat state. It should be roaring at Russia but instead Germany meows.
Hahaha. You can wish but sadly Germany's economy was dependent on Russia's cheap gas to fund it's military and economic development. But since it had bombed Nordstrom 2 gas pipeline with USA military assistance, Germany is relegated now to the dustbin of history. No economic power house. No military might. No nothing.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There is no negotiating with Putin. Surely everyone accepts that by now, so move on.
Did you not listen to interview between Tucker Carlson and Putin on peaceful dialogue and has done so for years learn some history and
stop showing your ignorance.
@@richardpeychers4076oh we’re Putin lied for 2 hours. Ya. We heard it. His peace talks is controlling, southern Ukraine, Ukraine, to be neutral and run by a puppet Russian government. Every country would except that.😂 moving on.
@@richardpeychers4076 Ruzzian bot.
@@richardpeychers4076
Any such dialog with Putin is purely window dressing.
Putin and Russia would find it hard to trust the west after the west deliberately sank Minsk 2 so to buy time to rearm Ukraine. Remember Merkels comments
Why would Russia lean towards negotiations? Russia has the upper hand.
Ekaterina excellently puts in such a hardworking effort keeping this channel breathing, confident now in fluent English too, but still lacks some key perspective of the full picture - so glad to hear honesty about the devastating situation on the ground. You could read the humble essay _A War Long Wanted_ by USMC Capt Matthew Hoh.
Because Ukrainians' lives, freedom, well-being and loved ones matter, as much as our own loved ones🇺🇦
This is not our war, this is a proxy war between the Anglo-Saxon lobbies and the Russian Federation.
👏
Total BS
Total truth!
Anglo Saxon nations died in WWII when they were tricked into killing each other. Now the Slavic peoples are being tricked into killing each other by the same evil tribe of deviants and usurers.
This is indeed true
Nato troops are their already for at least 2 years and moreover since 2014! Building up the UA army!!
And still a disaster for NATOb!
He found a podium for his opinion!
🗽🇺🇸🦅Great reporting📰!!
Keep up the good work of updating us 👀🕊️
Ekaterina, you are awesome. Keep up the good work!
I hope you come to your senses one day Japie. Even if you no longer play an influential role.
It's so reassuring to have these cynical war mongers in leading positions of politics and the military. And yes, this is sarcasm.
War mongers! Globalists! Ahrsoles!
excellent interview
How about countries stop worrying about how much this or that other country is giving and simply give as much and as fast as they can. If everyone had done this from the beginning this war would be over.
Or, if america not changed in 2014 the ukraine governement there was no war!!
ukrainian people changed government, it's called the revolution of dignity for a reason, only those who fell for the kremlin propaganda nonsense think it was a cia backed coup d'etat.. decades ago the cia did plenty of those and when that happened lots of actual proof was found and presented in the following years, in the case of 2014 euro maidan/revolution of dignity NO proof or even indications of this has been provided. @@daikovany
What are you talking about? Some other game changers? EU can't even give promised 1 million shells because they don't have them.
Not America’s War!
Would not have started if we didn't have idiot Obama in 2014.
Awesome interview 👏👏🔝
It is totally unreasonable & illogical for any of Ukraine's allies to attempt to put restrictions on the use of equipment they supply.
Nice icon!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND AT THE MOMENT ..... ARE YOU SAYING LATER MAY BE ,,,,,,
"Our European DNA is peace not war." Lol, lol, lol!!!😂😂😂
I watch the war from the bigging I don't no why not want help Ukraine because its look like they need help Ukraine so there some reason they want to dragged the war or they waiting some agreement to make peace and Russians taking all Ukraine land after they been sacrifice so many civilian and children and soldiers they died Ukraine they fighting for there life's don't for gate everyone need each others his right I agreed what his saying
Sneaky Joe, Obama, and the Globalists cant be trusted. They want one world with Obama the Leader!
Join the army they still need volunteers.
The most corrupt country , i whonder in what pockets some of the money will end ?
I hope you will dig little deeper like you did with the nordstream pipeline!!
I have no interest in Europe as a State, for me, it's just a continent.
Funny thing! Europe is half a continent. The other half is Asia. The US is one third of the continent of North America!
The is another reason why the Ukraine hasn't got a chance to win. This war has decimated the population of the Ukraine.
Unlike Russia, Ukraine isn't killing off their young men in this war. The average age of a Ukrainian soldier is in his 40s. Russia had a more serious demographic problem before they started this war and they've lost many more men, especially the younger ones on which the future depends. You have it backwards.
@@grisall Nope.
- The Ukraine already lost A LOT OF people BEFORE the war started. Between 2004 and 2022 A LOT OF people from eastern Europe (/EU) moved to western Europe (/EU) to work over there. As a result of that there was a shortage of workers in eastern Europe/EU. Those shortages of workers were filled up by "importing" workers from the Ukraine (which is NOT part of Europe).
- When the war started A LOT OF ukrainians more also fled to the EU. And up to now an additional 2 to 7 million ukrainians (depending on the source) also fled e.g. to the EU, draining the Ukraine even more. These people didn't fancy dying in the "meatgrinder" in the east of the Ukraine.
@@grisall The avarage age of a ukrainian soldier is indeed 43 right now. This is the result of people leaving the Ukraine between 2003 and february 2022 (to the EU), all the losses in this war and A LOT OF people more leaving the country AFTER february 2022. I have some sources that about say 2 to 7 million people left the Ukraine since february 2022. There are now very few males of fighting age (between the age of say 20 and 40) anymore in the Ukraine.
@@willemgrooters4958 no, the lack of younger troops in the Ukrainian Army is due to political decisions to exempt them from the draft. There are plenty. They are exempted because Ukraine wants to avoid Russia's post war serious demographic problem caused by eliminating their most productive aged people necessary for the economy. Ukraine may have no choice. Donors are complaining. They can easily draft 700,000 in a first tranche. Whether they can train and equip that many all at the same time is a question.
What about the border? What about the national debt? Do you want a nuclear war? What happens with people brain?
Old man no way ❤
Why can’t people like this get to the frontline? Warmonger!!
it is easier send your children lol
Spot on. Ukraine must be supplied with everything it needs, when it is needed ~ without any restrictions on use.
Not my war . No to NATO always
Putin asked Clinton if Russia could join NATO answer came back definately not?
Yrs 2 x Putin KGB Boy Rassija Agresija in Ukraine ilegale war bat Klinton seed not with this KGB wi do bot trast Putin KGB Boy Rassija.
glad to hear this... canada and north west europe are forced to mobilize our military economies.. the usa has been co-opted, we must prove trump wrong by making ukraine win in spite of any more US help
I am encouraged that NATO and other European nations are waking up to the demands of freedom and democracy. These societal elements do not come cheap. Plus, they are learning how not only the Putins but also the Trumps are against these long-fought for social elements. I salute these nations for starting to stand tall for democracy.
Yes like Irak Liby. Corée. Vietnam. Ethiopia yougoslavia. You bring good democracy there. All is ok there. We see. Psychopath. In power is dangerous. Fatal. For the world
@@hansmedja2774Do you think that authoritarians in command like Russia and China will do better for the world?
Hans, Ukraine is already a democracy.
Russia wants to enter the country to get rid of it.
Do you see the difference?
Did you not listen to Victoria Nulans speech where she said giving money and weapons to Ukraine was good for American arms producers as all the money came back to America .
Does that sound like someone who is interested in saving Ukrainian lives, this war is about hegemony and money and its all about America , Ukrainian or anyone else's lives don't mean zilch, open the book stop looking at the cover and realise what's happening.
Do you honestly think that it's only the US that talks this way?
The Hoop Scheffer. Time for the eldery home 😂😂😂
Vladimir Zelensky said the interviewer. Is that really showing respect to ukrainian language?
MR EX SECRETARY / RUSSIA OFFERED UKRAINE TO STAY IN PEACE AND NEUTRAL .... YOU WANTED IT IN NATO .... SO DONT BE SHIFTING THE BLAME ..... TELL YOUR STUDENTS AT THE UNIVERSITY ALL THE STORY ...
Ukraine is fighting for USA and Zelensky's interests. They wanted to destroy Russia, and now it had turned against them. 😂😂
What are you talking about,There was a peace agreement and Boris Johnson F it up.
Nato protect their nato states!!
Ok! Good job!! But is Libia or Syria Nato member!??
Russia attacking nato, my question: with what?
shovel
T-34s. Still plenty in the museums
You have not idea how strong Russia is nato can’t defeat Russia on no front
Ukraine reminds me of the Spartans at Thermopylae.
Indeed
Yes, but watch carefully the differences.
1. Spartans did not fight in their homeland.
2. They did not die all so that others are saved. They sacrificed just 300, though their best ones.
3. Their homeland was never invaded, nor annexed, not even touched (unlike the Athenians, and many others).
4. They had a strong assistance by the Athenian fleet until last time.
5. They died for Greece, not just for Lacedaimon.
6. They knew there would be greater battles later on.
Here the situation is different. Ukrainians are protecting their homeland. They do not have strong support by "allies" or "brother nations", the opposite (russians, bellarussians are the enemy). There is no will for a greater battle after Ukraine is fallen. Watch Scholz's face... Watch Trump. And this is pathetic.
The Spartans were not alone at Thermopylae.
Spartans were outmanned. Here at beginning of war Russian were outmanned. Spartans also never begged.
@@sot11cat Spartans have been humiliated by Thebes in battle of Leuctra, Spartans were even outnumbering them quite a lot. Thebes were too smart.
What they are asking we as Americans have scrafice our time away from our family and friends our hard earn taxes paying money, and all our energy to make ammo, artillery shells, tanks, planes and military equipment so they can get it faster. And that means all of us.
The combined west has wasted two full years. By now, we should all be producing military equipment 24/7. In fact, this ought to have been done by early summer 2022...
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He doesnt mean end of EU! What he is saying is end of NATO! That is something what is possible to happend, but if EU depends on NATO expanism than it should be end of EU.
Nobody’s stopping loud mouth from going
He is a nice person. He should spend his time and energy on important things, like stabilizing a part of space where he came from. The stabilization should be done trough synchronization of those nice stars that are just of the right size for becoming super-nova, but of the wrong size for any civilization living in the vicinity. And he should try to discover his previous language. It is somewhere in Americas, but it is not English, or Spanish or Portuguese
And I am writing about reincarnations which make us have longer individual and national history, much longer than just one age of the Universe. In this area nations that have total populations of around pone billion have inhabited ten planets whose stars were closely packed.
Well I've no idea what you just said. But I enjoyed it
Both of them are reincarnated from some other planet more than 39 000 incarnations ago, and since then are incarnating here. Events of that kind are the reason for so many wars, and especially for that one in Ukraine. If people have right state of mind so that they synchronize with Universe they can avoid having super-novae star ever in their vicinity. Mister General Scheffer is from the nation that have had god relation with Universe but was taken away from his planet inside the nation that didn't. So that native American language that he spoke prior to coming here is not his original language and his original language has never been spoken here. I have written while watching all that from Croatia with my inner eye, a song 'Wonderfully Land'. That land being those several planets that are now in a safe zone after parts of their population have been extracted. Although they were extracted to our planet we are also safe, but must start to address that problem of safety. But it is all such a long story, because it is a never ending story.
Donald Tusk was his cousin in that intermediate zone between the original zone and Earth and he has wanted to change him so that he would start to think more like the one from the nation into which ha was born. But Sheffer has remained a good man that he is. And that zone has comprised of 10 stars with 10 inhabited planets with a total population of billion people. And they used to have super novae explosions one after other, which have forced them to abandon that area and come to live here. But they are not all in Americas, which destabilizes Europe.
Thanks for showing interest, but English is not my language and it is difficult to know that central language is not used in the world. Also it is difficult to observe disinterested ruling classes regarding the Buddhism, as if it would possible to bring Earth into the era of peace and stability without it. @@mickmacgonigle5021
It is bad job.
Non sense bait headline
All these old guys are warmongers because they have nothing to lose.
The Army Bands of the Edinburgh Tattoo should have gone into Donbas in 2014. Putin would have been absolutely stumped !
Now look what procrastination has caused :-(
If the West had provided the necessary material to Ukraine at the beginning, the war would have been over a long time ago. I'm from Estonia and have been living in Germany for over 10 years. The German problem is that they have a culture of internal debates leading to mutual harm. This is as ineffective as it can be, resembling only nightmares. It's the biggest reason why many Germans are leaving Germany today, as there is never a clear political line. Military and political figures are often the biggest anxiety propagators themselves. They lack experience and understanding of how to handle Russia and the Russian government. Constantly talking about what we don't do and crossing red lines is a ridiculous and foolish speech.
The west could have handed over more gear than they did at the beginning for sure. But not much. And if you look back at Ukraine's military as it was on Feb 24, 2022 you'll see that they were already armed to the teeth. They had an absolutely huge army. Very well armed, trained, paid for and supported in every way NATO. That army was destroyed by Russia.
That should have been the end of the war. This protracted war is pathetic.
A few months back Germany's military published a report on the readiness of the German army to defend against war with Russia.
The report stated that if Russia invaded Germany would fall in days.
That comes directly from Germany's military.
The slow pace of the destruction of Ukraine is chosen by Russia.
And for very good reasons.
I have never released, until recently how arrogant central European academic,s are.
This debate had to happen and Europe needs to come to terms with the reality a militarily aggressive Russian political establishment.
On the other hand we must also be ready to work with Russia's liberal opposition, if and when that becomes an option. This normalisation of conflict is benefiting Putin and his authoritarian partners around the world.
Benefiting the US Military Industrial Complex!
Whole EU sitting in a room going ffs Germany it’s hardly the enigma Mach…oh wait 🤣
To be old and stupid is tragedy 😂
Sure Ivan
I think the lady host did not do her homework before the interview. Total failure.
How many nato soldiers have died in Ukraine so far 😅
Bullshxt
So why is the Netherlands expelling Eukranian refugees.
If it’s so essential for russia to lose, and it is, you can’t rule out going in to help
Not America’s war. Give up the hype. They said the same during the Vietnam War! How’d that work out? We made China relevant. Now look at them!
The first decisions to not support Ukraine were made in spring 2014 when the war started. The primary leaders who made those decisions were Obama, Merkel, Hollande, and Cameron, but many other European leaders aligned with Putin at that time too; failing to stand up to Putin in defense of Ukraine's sovereignty always was and always will be aligning with Putin and at this point, the leadership of the West are predominantly aligned with Putin, not with Ukraine. As the General Secretary points out, "we" have helped, but too little, too late and with too much hesitation and conditionality; this is aligning more with Putin than with Ukraine.
After Putin's puppet, Yanukovych fled in early 2014, a new democratic government was elected in Ukraine in summer 2014. At that point, there was no excuse to fail to protect Ukrainian sovereignty at that time, and with every passing year since Western timidity and collusion has grown stronger and stronger.
People like to blame particular parties, and it is certainly true that the aid which was being delivered from the U.S. was brought to a halt by a vote by 208 Democratic Congress people to remove Kevin McCarthy as speaker--a Republican Speaker who had presided over multiple bi-partisan votes to support Ukraine. Those 208 "pro-Ukrainian" Democrats, oddly, aligned with only EIGHT of the most explicitly pro-Putin Republicans (Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor-Greene, etc.) to oust McCarthy, whereas the other 210 Republicans who voted sought to keep McCarthy as speaker. It was this vote, determined by Democrats which removed a speaker who would have continued aid to Ukraine and allowed Johnson to rise to the position. Most certainly Johnson and quite a few other Republicans are explicitly opposed to Ukraine and in favor of Putin, and Donald Trump too has flip-flopped on his previous support for Ukraine.
There are no shortage of villains in the West; one of the few clear-cut heroes I can identify is McCarthy, but he was removed.
For more than TEN YEARS, Western leadership have allowed Putin to do as he pleases. While Trump has a remarkably coarse way of speaking which makes the most universally agreeable points disagreeable, it should be pointed out that: it was Trump who warned NATO about its failure to properly build up in preparation precisely for this sort of crisis. It was Trump who criticized Europe for going forward with high-value energy trade with Putin. It was Trump who attacked Russian mercenary positions in Syria (at a time when this was derogated as "war mongering") and it was Trump who first provided lethal aid to Ukraine. It now seems that all of that may have simply been political theatre, an opportunity for him to be seen reversing Obama era policy against providing lethal aid to Ukraine; certainly his most recent statements on support of Ukraine are lacking in any sense of coherence, continuity or principle and on that basis alone we should not hold out any hope for anything better than the his Democratic party predecessors.
But lets not fool ourselves that the wicked Orange Man is the one who "got us" into this mess. As I said in the opening of this essay, the decisions to NOT support Ukraine were first made in 2014. Setting aside the small modicum of support Trump provided to them, and the "too little, too late" support which has been provided since 22 Feb 2022, those opening decisions have established the tone and precedent: timidity, hesitancy, lack of principle, and probably even greed. Our Western leaders are quite literally not worthy of the heroic Ukrainian people who are fighting for the way of life they ostensibly champion.
You're missing all the most important parts, Victoria Noland, the maiden regime change and the French and Germans not holding Ukraine to the Minsk2 agreement which would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives and kept Ukraine whole. Merkel and the frenc president have blood on their hands along with the ones in the US that designed this conflict.
Joey and Obama encouraged Russia to move into Ukraine.
A new democratic goverment was elected...🤣It was a US backed regime change,with a new US puppet goverment....The new Kiyv Junta started soon the war against the own people in Donbas....Stop talking NONSENSE and LIES....
Please stop talking about Russia invading Europe. Only a lunatic could come up with this idea.
It's amazing it took this long before western politicians began talking about this, this should have been done already from the very start in 2014.
How amazing is it really, mats? Look at our leaders. Which one fills you with confidence? Which one do you respect? Would you die for even one of our idiots?
Would you trust even one of our valiant leaders to run a supermarket you owned?
Why are you not on the first line in Ukraine right now? You are warm and safe and taking bullsh...
Why don't you keep your BS to yourself and let the defense of your ass to others that actually do have a spine.
Germany depended on Russia cheap gas to fund its economic and military development. But since it has bombed Nordstrom 2 gas pipeline with USA military assistance Germany is relegated to the dustbin of history. No economic power house. No military might. No nothing. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
NATO'S 3 WEAKNESS . SERBIA HUNGARY GERMANY
Stop the bs Russia dose not want a fight with nato
Well they're gonna get a fight with NATO if they take Ukraine. Putin made it abundantly clear he won't stop and wants to take back all former Tsarist/Soviet territories
Russha dont get what they want all the time.
So just fill me in here, Why would Russia attack a nato country?
Not Russia, but Putin. He is a dick tator. Putin would attack if his feelings get hurt, or if he finds it advantageous because of domestic conditions. His logics are different from ours.
Cause Putin is Nut,s.
He wouldn't. But how can Blackrock and the US taxpayer continue funding the US Military Industrial complex?
Why not? Russia has not exactly been deterred by the West's response.
@@Mike-br8zt because of nuclear weapons and an active alliance. It's just stupid.
To my opinion Russia never had the intension to overrun Ukraine. Otherwise she would have already done it.
Can the Ukraine still win the war ? No, it already has lost the war.
Do you live in Moscow or St Petersburg? Either one you can look out your apt window and see the raging flames from your factories and oil storage yards. Look at the satellite photos of the empty storage yards that used to be full of obsolete USSR armor and artillery. In case you haven't read it yet half the money Russia squirreled away for its illegal war, $300 billion, is in your enemies vaults. Your black sea "fleet" is the laughing stock of the world, and Ukraine has recaptured half of the territory you occupied with your 2022 invasion. Russia went begging for help from two of the most absurd, backwards countries on earth. Sounds like Russia is losing. It sure ain't winning
political government separation from God overcome by divine central authority unity with substantive human rights choice for international law
Does anyone remember that Putin does not keep any agreements? Why does everyone forget this? It is maddening people!! Wake up for heavens sake !!
Ruzzuns only lie when their lips are moving, or they are writing.
What f…. Nonsense baseless war hog
A stalemate lol ukraine is losing bad its not a stalemate😂
Good interview. But here in Italy we don't see Europe in any danger. This is scare tactics. Truth is best. Thanks🙏
Your understanding is diminished by your ignorance
As General Ben Hodges said, there’s a complete lack of strategic goals among the NATO & European countries… without these strategic objectives, support is piecemeal & diffracted.
If you know Ukraine is fighting & dying on your behalf, isn’t the only moral choice to help them to the fullest extent possible, including with your own military?
There’s never been a better time to defeat Russia, bring down putin & show dictators & despots everywhere that the West is willing to keep its word & defend its principles & the vulnerable
Nato is defencive. Eu is anorher question.
If Russia wanted half of Poland or Germany or the rest of the European countries would you negotiate that a stupid question Ukraine had the right to have there country back every inch of it. The problem is the world is scared of puttin and in action will be our undoing eventually.
Not America’s war. They said the same things as you are now saying during the Vietnam War. Except, they were talking about China. How that work out? The US has made China relevant over the past 65 years!
No comparison between this & Viet Nam. @jhacksb1399
So far the only attack against Germany was by whoever blew up the Nordstream pipeline. I don't think it was Russia...
I agree with his opinions and analysis. Also Richard Shirreff predicts that Nato members will be attacked. 10-15 years of rearming, retraining a military force is a long time. Putin started the war economy and is already 1 year ahead.
I feel sad Jeremy Hunt has in the UK budget opted for tax cuts rather than more support for Ukraine.. I don't know why I expected better after he wrote the book "Direct Democracy: An Agenda For A New Model Party" to replace the NHS with insurance companies most likely owned by tories 😢
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Russia has never lived up to any agreement. That would be a waste of time and effort
Any such peace related dialog where Putin is concerned is purely window dressing.
Is this guy responsible for the Western Europeans needing to get the Eastern Europeans to do the fighting.😂😂😂😂
Should have been there on day one back in 2014. But Obama was weak. Definitely should have been there on day 1 in 2022. NATO MUST fight its own war!
That's why Putrid does his stuff when imbecile Democrats in W. House.
AGAIN ... WAR ECONOMY .... BUT WE HAD PEACE , WITH RUSSIA AS A FRIEND WE HAD PEACE , WHAT THE F@CK ARE YOU TELLING US , AND OF COURSE TO YOUR STUDENTS , IS THIS NOT WARMONGERING DEAR
Absolutely agree with your comments this professor is literally trying to groom his students, he should be dismissed.
There can never be peace when people like this want to teach war.
That Kerch bridge is coming down either way!
Kiev also!
Zelensky worries about people not territory.
Lay off the crack pipe
The same scenerio of European leaders political games they played prior to WW2. Now it is being replayed prior to WW3. They do not want to put out the fire before it spread wildly. They should either force Ukraine to negotiation for peace or help Ukraine completely and totally to win the war. They are walking and talking with little actions, (so called calibrating with slowly infusion the assistance).
Appeasement didn't prevent WWII, it will not prevent WWIII. There can be no negotiations with a terrorist.
@@TechTusiast which country do you think Russia will attack next?
My opinion: bordrs ukraine are hard. In europe no border changes because of wars of expantïon. It is pandoras box. Russia is not an empire. Just as all other former empires. Period.
Rewarding aggression by ceding territory is not only about some soil, it would also mean abandoning millions of compatriots to the misery of "ruSSian mir". Look at the rapes, tortures, murders in the currently occupied territory.
@@gerryhouska2859I am romanian.In 1940 ,the Soviet Union took and anexed to Soviet Ukraine romanian teritories.At that time ,Romania was a kingdom and a sovereign country.
Ukraine was founder member of Soviet Union,a Frankenstein state created by Lenin and Bronstein-Trotsky.
Ask your grandchildren if they want to go.
Or, ask your children!
Trump was America's mistake. Trump was also Putin's best investment.
Stupid thought! Blame Obama and Joey!
@@jhacksb1399 try to think for once buddy. Actually put two dots together and then form an opinion. Something besides fake news
Shocked 😮 Who would of thought UK would support Ukraine,unlike USA 🇬🇧
It’s not America’s war. Ukraine is a corrupt Europian country. It’s up to Europe to protect it, or not!
if Ukraine loses it means the end of Europe as they know it?
that's vague as hell, Russia has neither means nor desire to invade Europe
such an occurrence is mathematically impossible, what is the fear then?
Based on pure contribution rates, it seems NATO members have grown accustomed to peacetime. Though former president Donald Trump ruffled feathers by claiming he would stop support for NATO members who failed to meet their 2% GDP spending obligations, he made a clear and salient point: Europe is no longer at peace. Yet, 20 of the 31 NATO members have failed to meet the alliance’s military spending goals. America continues to carry the heaviest burden for Europe’s security. Editorial Boston Herald 3/6/2024
The situation might be different if the President of US was not senile.
Dumb conversation by "know=nothing" muppets
When you listen to someone germanic like the dutch or the english, you should remember the guy of the”killers of the flower moon” film, based on real events, who was adamant until the last moment that he was injecting insulin, not poison into that native Indian woman… the problem of Ukraine is that Ukrainians got intimately close with them, who fight Russians until the last Ukrainian…
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@@jhacksb1399 when anglosaxons arrived at these isles, the Welsh immediately called them “treacherous Germans”, and if you read Kate fox’s book”watching the english” the main feature of the english character is hypocrisy… I suggest you watch the above film to save you time, for the ageing Scorsese it is a film of redemption in a way… Anglo Saxons arrived here from Holland…
It is a film about how America came into being…
@@jhacksb1399 while watching the film you should remember that hutzpa is something admirable in the English language:
chutzpah
/ˈhʊtspə,ˈxʊtspə/
nounINFORMAL
extreme self-confidence or audacity.
"love him or hate him, you have to admire Cohen's chutzpah"
In Russian this word means something very different… so, the perception of the film will depend on your culture:
Хуцпа (из арамейского через иврит חֻצְפָּה и идиш חוצפה) - это характеристика поведения, приблизительно определяемая словами «огромная дерзость» или «сверхнаглость». Например, если сын, убивший родителей ради наследства, просит поблажки, потому что он сиротинушка, - это как раз классическая хуцпа. А вот случай из реальной жизни: супруг требует половину нажитого совместно с убитой им женой.
В традиционной еврейской культуре слово «хуцпа» означает однозначно отрицательные вещи: наглость, готовность врать в глаза, высокомерие… Причём всё это - в такой степени, что дух захватывает.
The problem is the English aren’t really Germanic. It’s a stretch to think so. The Nordic countries and the Netherlands, yes!
@@jhacksb1399 you are being very english!
English is a West Germanic language in the Indo-European language family, whose speakers, called Anglophones, originated in early medieval England. The namesake of the language is the Angles, one of the ancient Germanic peoples that migrated to the island of Great Britain.
if Ukraine is fighting your war why aren't you in Ukraine?
It's not my war!😡🤬
Coward
For a Dutchman he speaks perfect English.
An incompetent Dutchman judging another incompetent Dutchman, wow what a crap! 😮😮😮
@@maanvol Do you understand irony?
@@robertvanslooten9475 I do beg your pardon, my mistake! Have a nice weekend, cheers.
Ukraine is fighting Europe's and NATO's war and it's totally unfair. Ukraine is not going to be able to invade Russia alone NATO needs to help get to Russia's oil, natural gas, and enormous natural resource wealth. Europe, this is the 4th try ?
Lol, no, Europe is not at stake, Europe is already gone - with the Nordstream and the German deindustrialisation. What is at stake is the well-being of the EU political classes, who are going to lose their power if the democratic process in Europe will actually be allowed to run its course. And a Ukrainian failure in this war will undoubtedly stimulate that democratic process. That's why they are in such panic now.
Who blew up Nord Stream and who is weakening Germanys industrial heart and supplying gas at 3 times the cost that Russia charged and is pressuring Germany in this flawed enterprise
much to the detriment of the German people.
Hint- not Russia.
What does musk know, he is always on drugs
NATO is in coward mode