Kevin Durant talks legacy after GS win Final: 'I been dead since July 4th 2016' | FIRST THINGS FIRST

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 19 июн 2022
  • Kevin Durant finally breaks his silence, congratulating the Golden State Warriors on their NBA Finals win while commenting on his legacy being in question on social media. The Brooklyn Nets player is taking shots left and right now that the Warriors have succeeded in getting a title without him, and when it was suggested by a Twitter user that his legacy was now dead, KD responded that his legacy died back in 2016. Nick Wright and Chris Broussard share their thought son KD's response, and whether they agree his legacy is in question with the Warriors' win, especially after the Nets experienced an early playoff exit.
    #FirstThingsFirst #NBA #KevinDurant
    Download the free-to-play FOX Bet Super 6 app: foxs.pt/3z96p0j
    SUBSCRIBE to get the latest from First Things First: foxs.pt/SubscribeFIRSTTHINGSFIRST
    The all-new FOX Sports App, built for the modern sports fan: tinyurl.com/y4uouolb
    ►Watch the latest content from First Things First: foxs.pt/LatestOnFIRSTTHINGSFIRST
    ▶The Herd with Colin Cowherd’s RUclips channel: foxs.pt/SubscribeTHEHERD
    ►UNDISPUTED’s RUclips channel: foxs.pt/SubscribeUNDISPUTED
    ▶Speak for Yourself’s RUclips channel: foxs.pt/SubscribeSPEAKFORYOURSELF
    ►FOX Bet Live’s RUclips Channel: foxs.pt/SubscribeFOXBETLIVE
    ►Club Shay Shay’s RUclips Channel: foxs.pt/SubscribeCLUBSHAYSHAY
    ▶Titus & Tate's RUclips channel: foxs.pt/SubscribeTITUSANDTATE
    ►The Skip Bayless Show RUclips Channel: sprtspod.fox/SUBSCRIBESkipShow
    ►What's Wright? with Nick Wright RUclips Channel: sprtspod.fox/whatswright/youtube
    See more from First Things First: foxs.pt/FIRSTTHINGSFIRSTFoxSports
    Like First Things First on Facebook: foxs.pt/FIRSTTHINGSFIRSTFacebook
    Follow First Things First on Twitter: foxs.pt/FIRSTTHINGSFIRSTTwitter
    Follow First Things First on Instagram: foxs.pt/FIRSTTHINGSFIRSTInstagram
    Follow Nick Wright on Twitter: foxs.pt/NickWrightTwitter
    Follow Chris Broussard on Twitter: / chris_broussard
    Follow Kevin Wildes on Twitter: foxs.pt/KevinWildesTwitter
    Follow Jenna Wolfe on Twitter: foxs.pt/JennaWolfeTwitter
    About First Things First:
    Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, Kevin Wildes, and Jenna Wolfe team up on First Things First, a discussion and opinion-based studio program that covers all the headlines weekdays on FS1.
    Kevin Durant talks legacy after GS win Final: 'I been dead since July 4th 2016' | FIRST THINGS FIRST
    • Kevin Durant talks leg...
    First Things First
    / firstthingsfirst
  • СпортСпорт

Комментарии • 869

  • @FirstThingsFirst
    @FirstThingsFirst  2 года назад +11

    Listen to Flippin Bats: foxs.pt/flipbats

  • @JohnSmith-oc6gm
    @JohnSmith-oc6gm 2 года назад +970

    Imagine Lebron leaves Miami and gets swept with Kyrie in the first round while Wade wins another ring without him.

    • @bayodaman
      @bayodaman 2 года назад +76

      Right 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @bayodaman
      @bayodaman 2 года назад +124

      KD will never be in my top 10 idc

    • @rahulmanne9311
      @rahulmanne9311 2 года назад +101

      My gosh that sounds terrible. But then again in all time discussions KD and Lebron are not in the same breath

    • @michelangelooliver2590
      @michelangelooliver2590 2 года назад +8

      That’s CRAZY

    • @2019_NBA_CHAMPS
      @2019_NBA_CHAMPS 2 года назад +27

      @@bayodaman facts! Great offensive force but results matter. His time in OKC keeps him out of the top 10. Up 3-1 to GSW in a year almost people felt they will win the chip since they have been to the finals before and we’re knocking on the door!

  • @airharr7632
    @airharr7632 2 года назад +52

    2:35 Broussard and Nick with synchronized drink. Their outfits were almost on point today too 🤣

  • @silverknight876
    @silverknight876 2 года назад +289

    We need to stop that “KD took the warriors to new heights” foolishness. That team was one game away from being the most successful team anyone alive has ever seen. He stood on the shoulders of a giant and said ‘look how tall I am now’

    • @rickyphillips7944
      @rickyphillips7944 2 года назад +44

      He made them unbeatable. They can clearly win without him but with him no team in nba history could beat them…

    • @CamLovesJesus
      @CamLovesJesus 2 года назад +25

      He did they became unstoppable.. without him they probably wasn’t getting past Lebron anymore

    • @smerktyg9888
      @smerktyg9888 2 года назад +25

      They don’t beat Lebron without him and he doesn’t make the finals without them. Simple.

    • @shauntaebenton2062
      @shauntaebenton2062 2 года назад +17

      I could of swore the warriors went seeking KD to overcome LeBron. Yeah Stephs team but KD made them unbeatable…without him they don’t win 2…so give KD credit

    • @dontmindme4197
      @dontmindme4197 2 года назад +1

      Lmao stop

  • @trevorbarto9454
    @trevorbarto9454 2 года назад +24

    The synchronized coffee sip @2:30 between Bru and Nick is too good 👌🏻

  • @PianoandCoffee
    @PianoandCoffee 2 года назад +66

    Did any one else see how Nick and Chris each raised his cup in total sync during minute 2:30? NICE!!!😃

    • @jamesmcluvlee
      @jamesmcluvlee 2 года назад +1

      Lol habit

    • @curtiscj3087
      @curtiscj3087 2 года назад +2

      Drinking the cool aid

    • @Sandman1027
      @Sandman1027 2 года назад +1

      Couldn’t unsee it after your comment lol

    • @jada8047
      @jada8047 2 года назад +1

      Nick an Chris got gonzo n👃ses

    • @coachwill9584
      @coachwill9584 2 года назад +1

      They have cue cards and producers to tell them to play on their laptops like they do on First Take and when to drink and write down “notes” so they won’t look boring and still on television lol ppl like to see ppl moving on tv you can’t just sit there lol you gotta do something lol

  • @Mezukage27
    @Mezukage27 2 года назад +158

    it validates Steph's legacy. it puts him above KD. Like when Kobe won 2 without Shaq. Shaq won only 1 without Kobe. Steph changed the game. "you cant talk about KD without bringing up Steph. but you could talk about Steph without bringing up KD"
    he won 2 without KD. KD has won 0 without Steph

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh 2 года назад +13

      Curry has always been above kd, he joined curry’s team to win chips. Also kobe has the greatest coach ever for almost his whole career, that invalidate kobe being above shaq kiddo

    • @Mezukage27
      @Mezukage27 2 года назад +11

      @@MeBihhhh by that logic, it invalidates MJ since we're glorifying coaches in a player debate conversation

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh 2 года назад

      @@Mezukage27 you can use it as a knock against MJ but Phil Jack didn’t go to MJ as the greatest coach ever…he was already in that discussion when he got to shaq and kobe which is where the difference is

    • @francostrong202
      @francostrong202 2 года назад +12

      @@MeBihhhh yea. I agree with your Kobe take. Magic Johnson had a hall of fame coach in Pat Riley. Riley went on to win without Magic. That invalidates Magic's career. Shaq's legacy is invalidated because he only won with Phil Jackson and Pat Riley 2 of the top 5 greatest coaches of all time...🥴🥴🥴

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh 2 года назад

      @@francostrong202 nah you can win with good coaches, it’s just suspect when it’s the greatest coach ever(why Brady had to win without Bill) also Kareem being the greatest player to ever play invalidates magic yungin

  • @otisls
    @otisls 9 месяцев назад +5

    The counterintuitive, yet brilliant decision, by Curry to accept KD, sets Curry above and beyond other superstars, who, historically, would not sublimate their egos and accept a better player {arguably} on their team in pursuit of NBA Championships 🏆🏆🏆🏆

  • @victorsullivan9107
    @victorsullivan9107 2 года назад +61

    Warriors with KD = Warriors in 5
    Warriors without KD = Warriors in 6

    • @thelonewolf7443
      @thelonewolf7443 2 года назад +15

      KD without Warriors = Nets go 0-4

    • @richardclark1127
      @richardclark1127 2 года назад +4

      2019
      Warriors with KD = champs
      Warriors without KD = Raptors in 6
      2020
      Warriors without KD = missed playoffs (granted Steph was injured too)
      2021
      Warriors without KD = missed playoffs (Steph won scoring title)
      So maybe it has more to do with team composition.

    • @kingsfordoteng7684
      @kingsfordoteng7684 2 года назад +9

      @@richardclark1127 Cap. and the finals was both just KD and Klay. Warriors were without Steph or Klay, or Dray from 2020 and 2021..If you still insist, Warriors with KD= Championship(2). Warriors without= championship(2)- He is not an X-factor.

    • @light-rd7vq
      @light-rd7vq 2 года назад

      Basketball is a team game so of course every team member matters and team composition matters but you conveniently ommitted the fact that klay was missing in 2019, 2020, 2021. In 2019 he didnt miss all the games but both KD and Klay was injured some of the finals games

    • @richardclark1127
      @richardclark1127 2 года назад +2

      @@kingsfordoteng7684 How does Steph win the scoring title in the 20/21 season but not have Steph? Klay is a fair argument, but my point was that it takes team composition. Steph missed the playoffs, Lebron has missed the playoffs, KD may as well have missed the playoffs this year. Teams around these players dont get enough credit

  • @haiti_microshading1774
    @haiti_microshading1774 2 года назад +61

    Nick got that take on point 😂🤣

  • @GaryTurbo
    @GaryTurbo 2 года назад +67

    Durant only has himself for screwing up his legacy, he chose an easy ring instead of proving his worth

    • @semionjohnson1351
      @semionjohnson1351 2 года назад +7

      Y'all weird KD made his decision he not living his life to please people like you nor is he living his life to do things the way you want him to

    • @cygriffin83
      @cygriffin83 2 года назад +4

      Just conveniently leave out the fact GS recruited him… now that he’s not taking the “east route” people like u wanna crucify him 🤣🤣🤣.
      KD clearly don’t give af regardless what people like u think

    • @GaryTurbo
      @GaryTurbo 2 года назад +9

      I don't want him to please me, I'm happy that hes failing. It was an easy route. Durant only won a ring with a 75-win team that beat him before only to leave and to get swept in the first-round while Warriors getting a second ring without him years later shows Warriors don't need Durant but the other way around

    • @cygriffin83
      @cygriffin83 2 года назад +3

      @@GaryTurbo you and these media people are delusional. 🤣🤣🤣
      Just conveniently narrate stories to make ur selves feel good

    • @jonathanfulton4243
      @jonathanfulton4243 2 года назад +3

      @@semionjohnson1351 You say that but he constantly argues with people online about his legacy. Doesn’t sound like someone who doesn’t care about pleasing others.

  • @fatigh6711
    @fatigh6711 2 года назад +47

    Nah, he acts like everybody wasn’t praising him and slandering Steph all these years

    • @judyclarkson5887
      @judyclarkson5887 2 года назад +3

      That's what ppl don't get. The audacity in saying that Steph/Warriors needed KD without ever mentioning how he needed them more to get his first rings, that's why it's only right if this stuff gets back to bite Kd's legacy. Well until he proves us wrong just like Steph did.

  • @andrewfranta6349
    @andrewfranta6349 2 года назад +114

    KD chose Kyrie. It's not 100% on him, but when superstars construct teams, they're not quite innocent bystanders when things go wrong

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 года назад +12

      Also, KD ran Harden out of town by apologizing for Kyrie

    • @youtubehatestruthtellers8065
      @youtubehatestruthtellers8065 2 года назад +1

      Dude every other time GMs construct teams and they aren't successful everytime.
      Yea but...

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 года назад +8

      @@youtubehatestruthtellers8065
      ^KD Burner account detected

    • @hart63
      @hart63 2 года назад

      Last year was an erratic year because of covid and Kyrie not being allowed to play in Brooklyn home games. Next year, an erratic year because we did not know then Simmons will be so stuck. Maybe next year is a fantastic year because Ben Simmons is not stuck. Either way it is not terrible to pay to watch KD and Kyrie go to work

    • @unknownx7252
      @unknownx7252 2 года назад +4

      @@hart63 I don't know if I can trust in the availability of Kyrie, it's either injury or some circumstance that makes him unavailable.

  • @SSJRome
    @SSJRome 2 года назад +41

    KD will never know peace for the rest of his career lol smh sad but this is the bed he made now he has to lay in it.

    • @ernestlester9262
      @ernestlester9262 2 года назад +1

      Lol,just like lebron huh!!!

    • @youraverage90sguys7
      @youraverage90sguys7 2 года назад +3

      @@ernestlester9262 nothing alike 🤡🤡🤡

    • @theyoungKapitalist
      @theyoungKapitalist 2 года назад

      @@ernestlester9262 nah if dwade and bosh would've won without him the season he left yes.

    • @eliasacheampong5830
      @eliasacheampong5830 2 года назад

      @@theyoungKapitalist dwade won before bron lool. You can’t pick and choose narratives

    • @theyoungKapitalist
      @theyoungKapitalist 2 года назад

      @@eliasacheampong5830 what are you talking about? I was giving him a scenario of a star leaving a super team and the team ends up winning wins without that star.

  • @dave1123
    @dave1123 2 года назад +24

    Cementing your legacy as an all time great involves more than just skill and talent.. There are a lot of skillful and talented players in the league. Being an all time great involves winning, team culture and how you impacted the game.. If we are ranking all time skilled players, we can rank Durant at the top 5 debatable... But this is all time great... He needs to prove more than just skills.. Leadership and impact on the game must be shown

    • @milo6011
      @milo6011 Год назад

      I 100% agree with yo point but I disagree with KD being top 5 skilled ever offensively I’d say yes I’d say he’s the best natural scorer ever but in totality defense matters and he’s not even close to Akeem Lebron jordan Kobe Wilt Kareem These dudes were just as good and some better than KD on offensive and miles ahead on defense I believe that puts them head and shoulders above KD from a skill perspective

    • @hawks19_65
      @hawks19_65 8 месяцев назад

      i’m sorry but u can discredit kds rings but u can’t discount them bc they’re in the record books and u can’t change the record books unfortunately so that makes kd an all time great

  • @LT-xb5su
    @LT-xb5su 2 года назад +83

    This didn’t give us new info, just confirmed what we already knew. The warriors were literally a 73 win team, who won a ring the year before, and were 4 points from going back to back. Of course if you add any all star caliber player to a team already that good it’s going to become extremely overpowered. I think if you swap KD out with Bradley Beal or Paul George, history remains exactly the same. But one thing worth mentioning is the warriors those 2-3 years with KD are in my opinion the best team of all time. I don’t think any team in NBA history even wins more than 2 games against the 2017 Warriors, and even though they would win titles still, I don’t think the remain the best team ever if you just replace KD with any all star

    • @Spacetech3000
      @Spacetech3000 2 года назад +3

      Agree for the most part but durant was the lebron kryptonite, cause his chase downs and everything dont matter KD offensively too good, put beal or PG3 in place its dtill a boost but the cavs could take that type of team to 6 probably they still probably win the chips but it may actually be possible for the cavs to win that, win durant there was no shot

    • @dumoneyy2354
      @dumoneyy2354 2 года назад

      Facts

    • @youraverage90sguys7
      @youraverage90sguys7 2 года назад +14

      @@Spacetech3000 mah mate, gsw was just so overwhelming with talent, kd was never comaprable to lebron to be any kind of krypotnite, literally any iyher all star wouldve ended in same result. infact without any additions they still go to finals 3 years in a row and win at least 2 (18 if kyrie still leaves and 19 if nobody gets hurt, if kd alone got hurt but klay was still good, raptors not winnig, kd was just cherry (cuz hes a fruit) on top, nothing more

    • @Robert-sx9mm
      @Robert-sx9mm 2 года назад +2

      I agree with everything but your last point...

    • @Chessbox09
      @Chessbox09 2 года назад +8

      GSW didn’t need KD. They just need a wing scorer to take pressure of Steph in the Finals, and KD is the best in the business at that. KD was just a mercenary.

  • @ThereIsNoTrueLove
    @ThereIsNoTrueLove 2 года назад +15

    if i was KD, i would off my phone for a few weeks
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @Torrey_J_Gaming
    @Torrey_J_Gaming 2 года назад +8

    Draymond literally told KD that they didn’t need him during that argument on the bench and it was true. I didn’t care that KD left OKC. KD could have gone anywhere else. But he joined the team with the greatest regular season record ever. The same team that eliminated you in the playoffs. That will ALWAYS be weak in my opinion.

    • @MarkLeel
      @MarkLeel 2 года назад

      Agreed. If he’d gone to the Spurs and he’d have just been as likely to win as with the Warriors.

  • @mike.cdn7212
    @mike.cdn7212 2 года назад +48

    Kyrie has had TWO horrendous playoff series in his career. His last year in Boston v Milwaukee and this year in Brooklyn v his former team the Celtics. We've been discussing KD legacy but not Kyrie's. Definitely a embarrassing moment for both.

    • @halffacedsinger
      @halffacedsinger 2 года назад +10

      There are no expectations of Kyrie to be the Batman on a championship team

    • @jamesmcluvlee
      @jamesmcluvlee 2 года назад +2

      The difference is that kyrie doesn’t care about his BASKETBALL legacy. KD does

    • @pauljulian3937
      @pauljulian3937 2 года назад +2

      Kyrie ???? He is irrelevant

    • @eddward758
      @eddward758 2 года назад +2

      bro nobody care about Kyrie legacy

    • @thebarksman
      @thebarksman 2 года назад

      If kyrie really cared about his legacy, he would be vaccinated by now. Goes to show he really didn't care.

  • @bwp2bruce
    @bwp2bruce 2 года назад +4

    If KD so much better than Curry, then why did Curry have his best finals and win FMVP against the same team that shutdown and swept KD? And why hasn't KD won a chip without Steph while Steph has two rings without KD? And how come the only rings KD got is while playing alongside Steph?

  • @phantasmex
    @phantasmex 2 года назад +2

    2:30 The synchronized sips 😂

  • @Jodacon75
    @Jodacon75 2 года назад +63

    You can’t deny KDs skills and being one of the most talented players ever to live, unfortunately he makes bad decisions

    • @jsmithepa
      @jsmithepa 2 года назад +1

      And yet this "indefensible" player was smoothed to dead by the Celtics in this last series.

    • @curtiscj3087
      @curtiscj3087 2 года назад +3

      What bad decision ?

    • @dreadxplayzs7849
      @dreadxplayzs7849 2 года назад

      @@curtiscj3087 Durant makes more then that goofies entire ancestry and he has the nerve to say Durant makes bad decisions?Imagine that 🤦‍♂️

    • @HollyG95
      @HollyG95 2 года назад

      Kd skills? He can shoot. That’s it. That’s skill? What else is he “great” in?

    • @drk.i.a.2969
      @drk.i.a.2969 2 года назад

      @Cedrick Carson and which player isn't?

  • @robertromero8452
    @robertromero8452 2 года назад +61

    If we’re going to pull the whole “basketball is a team sport” we need to measure players for their impact on the team. If that’s the case, Curry > Durant and it’s not debatable.

    • @judyclarkson5887
      @judyclarkson5887 2 года назад +5

      It's even evident in stats. A RUclips account named JimmHighroller (or whatever it was) just made a video about it and Curry's impact upon his team's wins when he plays vs doesn't is even higher than Lebron and Jordan. Anyone can check that video if they want.

    • @justincrawley4256
      @justincrawley4256 2 года назад +1

      @@judyclarkson5887 if you're going to quote an RUclips video it would probably come off more credible if you actually knew the name of the creator 😂

    • @theinktician
      @theinktician 2 года назад +1

      @@judyclarkson5887 JxmmyHighroller

  • @tyanewilson217
    @tyanewilson217 2 года назад +24

    Y’all said curry need to win one without kd right because when he won in 2015 it’s because people got injured 🤕 so now I think kd should win one without steph curry and klay Thompson because with those guys on the floor Durant have alot of spacing

    • @judyclarkson5887
      @judyclarkson5887 2 года назад +3

      It's only fair indeed

    • @jffdxn02
      @jffdxn02 2 года назад +2

      Like you said, 2015 was without Durant. 2016 he lost to a very good defensive team lead by a mt Rushmore player ( no shame in that). The shame was more on KD for that corny move. I can see if your team got swept by GS or lost 4-1. The series went to 7 games. That means it was evenly matched teams. Same for the GS Cleveland matchup. Was weak for both parties, but KD look the weakest.

    • @dreadxplayzs7849
      @dreadxplayzs7849 2 года назад

      Warriors beat a team not even close to how good the 2016 Cleveland,try again loser.

  • @calum6600
    @calum6600 2 года назад +7

    Wyldes' takes are brutal

  • @ricbradley5323
    @ricbradley5323 2 года назад +31

    Wiggins with the huge W, taking his vaccine and getting a ring.

    • @conchobar
      @conchobar 2 года назад

      Vaccines, team chemistry, or consistent lineups had nothing to do with the Nets being swept by the C's. Nets weren't just outplayed, they never made adjustments. The team that fails to adjust always loses.

    • @ianwilson4483
      @ianwilson4483 Год назад

      @@conchobar The point is, it’s a team sport.

  • @pdfbanana
    @pdfbanana 2 года назад +6

    2:46 The tweet is NOT comparing KD to Lennon, it's comparing him to Stuart Sutcliffe AKA the guy you've never heard about

  • @erikkdane8485
    @erikkdane8485 2 года назад +5

    It has hurt and tarnished Durant's legacy.

  • @aduad
    @aduad 2 года назад +4

    They didn't need KD, they just needed another all star and some depth which is exactly what they have with Wiggs, Porter, Poole and GP2...you guys really think this team wouldn't have won those two chips KD won?

    • @marlinesutherland5358
      @marlinesutherland5358 2 года назад +2

      Wiggins and GP2 is not beating a healthy Lebron Team that’s why Draymond went crying in the parking lot. Yeah they didn’t need KD to beat Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, they needed him to beat Prime Bron and a Healthy Kyrie...That’s a HUGE Difference.

    • @jamaalhorton2343
      @jamaalhorton2343 2 года назад

      They needed KD

  • @reneesmith983
    @reneesmith983 2 года назад +19

    Steph is in the Top 10, he singlehandedly changed how the game is played. Well along with Rule changes. Bottom line, you cannot tell the story of basketball without including him.

    • @dach1156
      @dach1156 2 года назад +4

      That’s true but does not necessarily make him top 10

    • @malcolmwayne8457
      @malcolmwayne8457 2 года назад

      @@dach1156 ✔💯

    • @kobeisthegoat332
      @kobeisthegoat332 2 года назад

      You can because Ray Allen ad Reggie Miller exist

    • @reneesmith983
      @reneesmith983 2 года назад +2

      @@kobeisthegoat332 they were great but still weren't so efficient from 3 that they changed how the game is played. Were guys pulling up on the clear break to shoot 3s before Steph. Steph changed the game all the way down to the youth level.

  • @izzy1000ful
    @izzy1000ful 2 года назад +14

    What they are missing is the warriors needed something in return for Harrison Barns. But they didn’t need KD could of got it done with a handle full of other stars or superstars. So yes he took the easy way out 1000%. KD maybe one of the most talent people to ever play but his resume and his overall accomplishment don’t show it. Gianna’s has done in my opinion something that KD hasn’t.

    • @drk.i.a.2969
      @drk.i.a.2969 2 года назад

      What you dint understand championships teams win championships not individual players (we elevate it to one guy, that's a fallacy) mike, couldnt do it, steph, chamberlin, bill russell..the list goes on. Shaq call it the others. Th as ts the real truth but WE like to point to one player.

    • @bobbyseasons451
      @bobbyseasons451 2 года назад

      As did Dirk. And Charles did what KD couldn't. Accept The No Ring life. KD failed himself there 😭😭

  • @TheManofThings777
    @TheManofThings777 2 года назад +8

    I really don't get what he's talking about cause up until the moment the Warriors beat the Celtics, people ALWAYS said that KD carried Steph and the Warriors in those two championship wins they got together.
    It's only now that the Warriors have won before KD, with KD, and after KD that the narrative is changing.

    • @jandt3463
      @jandt3463 2 месяца назад

      Thats how it goes. The best success of KDs career is cuz of Golden State.......

  • @QMN8125
    @QMN8125 2 года назад +9

    Imagine Jordan left the Bulls for the Wizards right and a Scottie led Bulls win a championship.

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G 2 года назад +1

      Imagine if this was a dumb comment. Oh…. Wait, you don’t have to because it is

  • @NickWestcoast
    @NickWestcoast 2 года назад +51

    I believe this title truly validates Steph and GS. The first title that they’ve gotten with no asterisk. No injury excuses and no super team excuses. Just a great team that beat another great team.

    • @phil7121
      @phil7121 2 года назад +13

      You know your haters are reaching when their best argument is "well their best player isn't top 10 all time just the greatest shooter of all time"
      Honestly feel sorry for them

    • @Lee-rt6tx
      @Lee-rt6tx 2 года назад +3

      “BuT TAtUm hAd a shOulder INjuRy”

    • @gregoryevans8179
      @gregoryevans8179 2 года назад +25

      Why would any of their titles have asterisks? They won them legit. Not their fault if their opponent was hurt or they had a player that put them over the top. If you use that logic there would be whole lotta titles that have asterisks.

    • @VivisDoomsday
      @VivisDoomsday 2 года назад +6

      @@gregoryevans8179 Yeah I don't like using the term asterisk in this situation but the previous GS titles felt less earned than this current one. It's tough because you can't blame the warriors for their luck, that's out of their control of course. I don't think it should count against Curry and his legacy- but it would have been MORE special if the Warriors earned their title like this years. Something about the Cavs missing their 2nd and 3rd best players the entire series in 2015 deprived that title of it's maximum glory- because the next year those same 2 teams, but with healthy players this time went the Cavs way so it does make you wonder. Then they added KD on top of how close those 2 teams were already in 2016 prior to him joining. KD wins FMVP in both 2017 and 2018. This years title though? There's really no narrative that can deprive the titles maximum glory this year.
      Steph and the Warriors aren't the only players/teams that have gotten lucky on their way to a title, and that's something people need to realize when they try to deny the warriors/steph of their due credit. All time great team, all time great player in steph, glad he finally got his FMVP.

    • @Lexyboogie
      @Lexyboogie 2 года назад +7

      Steph and GS were validated before KD even got there as far as I’m concerned. People don’t understand how miraculous Bron and Kyrie were in 2016. Any other team in the East would have gone down in 5 to that Warriors squad at the very most.

  • @SEETORONTO416
    @SEETORONTO416 2 года назад

    Great video, have a wonderful day everyone.✌

  • @95Dreamshake
    @95Dreamshake 2 года назад +2

    Asterix gets me every time 😂

    • @hyperfixer
      @hyperfixer 2 года назад

      Almost better than when Stephen A saying “Rob Pelinker” 😂😂

  • @mhaiyaaj
    @mhaiyaaj 2 года назад +23

    Did you see what Jason Tatum did to Durant? He made Durant look pedestrian in their series. The warriors turned Jason Tatum into a turn over machine. The warriors don’t need KD as much as he needed them. Durant coming over to the warriors was an overkill. Any NBA player who is a little better than Harrison Barnes would have done Durant’s job. Without the warriors, Durant would have 0 championship.

    • @BrianSmith1993
      @BrianSmith1993 2 года назад +1

      KD is still OVERALL a better player and will be a HOF regardless of them rings.

    • @ryanjong9971
      @ryanjong9971 2 года назад

      Last year?

    • @justincrawley4256
      @justincrawley4256 2 года назад

      Without Durant the warriors would have 2 less and lebron would have 2 more

    • @sandworld1432
      @sandworld1432 2 года назад

      @@justincrawley4256 that is a flawed statement. Without KD, they would have recruited another all star caliber player like Andrew Wiggins/ Beal/ Wall/ Butler……

    • @sandworld1432
      @sandworld1432 2 года назад

      @@BrianSmith1993 NBA HOF’s bar is very low……

  • @coledraper5694
    @coledraper5694 2 года назад

    Nick and Brou with the simultaneous coffee sip at 2:30 🤣

  • @tblackmusic7460
    @tblackmusic7460 2 года назад

    Nick and Broussard were on point!!!

  • @dsstewbaby9
    @dsstewbaby9 2 года назад

    Nick is Spot on 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @justingabriel1765
    @justingabriel1765 2 года назад +5

    Well the Steph top 10 all time stuff is okay because well… frankly? Stephs been better then KD through their careers, KD is taller, cool, but Steph has done more then KD has, he’s impacted basketball more then he has, he’s a better leader, he’s a more loved player, Steph has just had the better career, so it’s easy to say right now at this moment yeah we’re looking at Steph top 10 all time instead of KD

  • @NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE
    @NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE Год назад +1

    Can’t people admit the Warriors did not need him to win most of the championships but definitely don’t win as many as they did without him? Even if it was just one?

  • @optimisticjuann
    @optimisticjuann 10 месяцев назад

    Nick and Bru simultaneously took a sip of their cup ain’t nobody bringing that up 😂😂

  • @cryptomillie
    @cryptomillie 2 года назад

    Good point on the randy moss comparison !!

  • @seanscott1043
    @seanscott1043 2 года назад +3

    There is an asterisk for KD with his ring but no asterisk for Steph or Klay when they won the same ring.

    • @khaliyl21
      @khaliyl21 2 года назад +3

      It’s no asterisk for them because they proved they can win without KD so anything else is just gravy. KD is the one with something to prove!

    • @bjrowland25
      @bjrowland25 Год назад

      @@khaliyl21 this is it. His rings still count obviously, just looked at a little different until he wins without the warriors.

  • @Morya58
    @Morya58 2 года назад +4

    They needed KD to get past those and guarantee victory. The fact that they won now would only really say they didn't need KD if there was a team in the east as good or better than the 2016 or 2017 cavs

    • @JDNoble
      @JDNoble 2 года назад +2

      Exactly!

    • @vulcanraven9701
      @vulcanraven9701 10 месяцев назад

      Well they did have a good enough team to beat the 2016 cavs. All the warriors had to do was not choke last 3 games Specifically, the Splash brothers

  • @wendellsloan8200
    @wendellsloan8200 2 года назад

    Nick said a thought exercise, another word for feedback

  • @chrisMcG17
    @chrisMcG17 2 года назад +5

    KD playing against the raptors when he knew he was going with kyrie. That was a mistake. Gave up a year with the injury

  • @thebarksman
    @thebarksman 2 года назад

    This is the first time i actually agreed with nick's points.

  • @Polo22546
    @Polo22546 2 года назад +1

    The simultaneous sip by Nick and Chris was weird.

  • @jacksonnowak7497
    @jacksonnowak7497 2 года назад +1

    The Guy who left the Beatles was Pete Best...........

  • @danielshirley3267
    @danielshirley3267 2 года назад +4

    This may get a lot of hate but nobody denies KD is excellent, all-time great. But as it stands right now, KD is the greatest 2/co-star of all time. KD has been very good as the guy, but he’s never won a title as the guy.

    • @smokesmitty1
      @smokesmitty1 2 года назад +1

      he took okc to the finals people at age 24

    • @smokesmitty1
      @smokesmitty1 2 года назад +1

      against a juggernaut miami heat

    • @TheSwagIsBack
      @TheSwagIsBack 2 года назад

      @@smokesmitty1 age 23 and u right.

  • @2402devin
    @2402devin 2 года назад +4

    Yes Kd put GS over the top, yes KD led the way for them to win those chips with Steph klay & Dray, Yes he was great in those finals..but at the end of the day, KD JOINED them they didn’t need him, he wasn’t going to win anything if he didn’t go to GS.. & GS was gonna acquire another star anyways if it wasn’t KD

    • @deonterector7424
      @deonterector7424 2 года назад

      He had other options...I believe KD and Kawhi on the spurs would at least win 1-2 titles.

    • @2402devin
      @2402devin 2 года назад

      @@deonterector7424 pop KD could’ve
      Gone to the Celtics he choose a front runner team. Then tried to go to to Brooklyn and do it the “hard” way when he should’ve done that in the first place. Smh.

  • @jamenthomas9837
    @jamenthomas9837 2 года назад

    Todays fits all around lookin good

  • @BornCrowned_
    @BornCrowned_ 2 года назад +17

    "It looks like they didnt need you"....."I know they needed him" 😂😂

    • @joeclaridy
      @joeclaridy 2 года назад

      Double talk at its best

    • @dezz8598
      @dezz8598 2 года назад +3

      He said it LOOKS like it, that doesn’t mean that’s the case. Bud either way, GSW clearly didn’t need him.

    • @BornCrowned_
      @BornCrowned_ 2 года назад +1

      @@dezz8598 Yall determine that because they beat Lebron, Kyrie and Kevin Love without KD or they beat Tatum and Brown without KD because those aren't even comparable 😂😂

    • @whatsyourpoint1facts942
      @whatsyourpoint1facts942 2 года назад +1

      @@BornCrowned_ but Tatum and brown swept the sht out of kd kyrie and this chip right proved we didn't need kd you mfs will try to figure out something else to discredit the warriors what if they repeat what are you Bozo's going to say then 🤣🤣🙏🙏

    • @whatsyourpoint1facts942
      @whatsyourpoint1facts942 2 года назад +1

      @@BornCrowned_ and they had the defensive player of the year and got smoked until kd wins another ring this is what the media is continue to talk about his B's legacy 🙏🙏

  • @jeanrosales7896
    @jeanrosales7896 2 года назад

    Around 4:30 I saw Chris face because that’s not a good comparison and I couldn’t wait for what’s next

  • @Licensed1
    @Licensed1 2 года назад +2

    Honestly Durant should join the Celtics as a SF and they can move Brown to SG, grab a couple bench players with finals experience and go after the Warriors and win it.

  • @quezzyb617
    @quezzyb617 2 года назад

    2:30 synchronized tea sip

  • @ruelpile
    @ruelpile 2 года назад +1

    Somebody tell Wiley that football isn’t comparable to basketball.

  • @DonaldDuck-qz4do
    @DonaldDuck-qz4do 2 года назад +1

    Talk about the Celtics and the warriors and Steph legacy

  • @tblackmusic7460
    @tblackmusic7460 2 года назад +6

    Wildes usually has some brilliant takes, but the comparison he used this time was terrible.

  • @dsstewbaby9
    @dsstewbaby9 2 года назад

    Chris spot On 👈🏾

  • @assadbarakzai5921
    @assadbarakzai5921 2 года назад +2

    Media talks puts him down when he join gs but when left they saying he shouldn't have left. Like Steve a and all thosenppl who say that are fakes

  • @louismwobobia5773
    @louismwobobia5773 2 года назад

    Nick x Chris synchronised coffee sip 02:29

  • @Lance_Thorpe_Esq.
    @Lance_Thorpe_Esq. 2 года назад

    I love how Brew Admits that it's the National Media LEADING THE DISCUSSION...
    KD needs to grow up and let people who respect his game love his game and let those who don't (or who lack critically objectivity) criticize him!

    • @evenebrown7353
      @evenebrown7353 2 года назад +1

      do kd need to grow up or the media? they have been talking about kd for 3 weeks now even though he hasn't been in playoffs since first round. Boston lost and no one is even saying anything about that you would think gs played brooklyn in the finals. kd was being talked about more than the 2 teams in finals

  • @SamoaVsEverybody814
    @SamoaVsEverybody814 2 года назад +3

    1. Lebron
    2. Steph
    3. Kawhi
    4. KD

  • @masterbuten5953
    @masterbuten5953 2 года назад

    1st time i really agreed with nick here.

  • @DontQuitLife
    @DontQuitLife 2 года назад +2

    King KD period 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @adriandevon710
    @adriandevon710 2 года назад +6

    kd overrated, the warriors beat a team in the finals that swept him in first the round

  • @richardturner1063
    @richardturner1063 9 месяцев назад

    Kevin “If you can’t beat them join them” Durant Legacy
    The 2014 MVP, 2015 MVP, 2016 unanimous MVP joined together on a 73 win team (with a DPOY and FMVP) to stop the GOAT, that beast from the east 🤫

    • @bjrowland25
      @bjrowland25 3 месяца назад

      That beast from the East also joined the 3rd greatest sg of all time and a HOF PF to win his first rings, never forget!

  • @82weeks94
    @82weeks94 2 года назад +1

    Only thing KD has done wrong in his NBA career in my eyes is : trying to please others & not pleasing his self .

  • @ITzTricky_x
    @ITzTricky_x 2 года назад

    KD is used best as a role player , a extremely high scoring role player in a team that has a solid play style already intact.

  • @Putmefirst
    @Putmefirst 2 года назад

    Gotta love KD he don’t take none of the talking or critics personal mans be trolling everybody lmao

  • @sjorden1980
    @sjorden1980 2 года назад +2

    Why is Nick Wrong talking about Kyrie not being vaccinated? He played in the playoffs! His vaccination status has nothing to do with why they loss! Stop it with this narrative!🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @singerlee4446
      @singerlee4446 2 года назад

      Well you could argue that it did. He missed most of the season and hasn't spent much time actually playing with KD, IDC who you are, you need that time to have chemistry. You're not just gonna miss most the season then hop on the court in the playoffs and go all the way, it doesn't work like that.

  • @jazzyfour
    @jazzyfour 2 года назад

    Nick said KD sitting down smoking, playing video games and getting a Twitter alert. Lol

  • @future_teknokrat7585
    @future_teknokrat7585 2 года назад

    Yo KD, I agree 100 percent

  • @paulbogle6760
    @paulbogle6760 2 года назад +1

    Whoever won a championship by themselves??
    KD was the man in golden state.
    Just like when LeBron went to Miami and he was the driver based on his skill set, DWade was there a champion but LeBron was that guy. That was KD was in golden state. Long live the Raptors...when KD went down in 2019 what happened to the warriors??? Klay was there, Draymond was there and Mr Curry was there

  • @BAM2gz
    @BAM2gz 2 года назад

    That Randy Moss analogy was such a reach lmao

  • @mrmillennium2697
    @mrmillennium2697 2 года назад +7

    Idk a reverse way of looking at it is KD's legacy goes up just by the attention he's getting because of it. Fact is if he would've never went to Golden State we wouldn't even view KD on those standards. He'd be similar to Harden or Westbrook on legacy he gets two titles and much relevancy in the last 6-7 years. He wins in my opinion no matter what Golden State did or does.

  • @stbsole
    @stbsole 2 года назад

    Bad analogy Wildes: Moss wanted to stay, Belicheck didn’t want the headache he was starting to become.

  • @riddlachicago
    @riddlachicago 2 года назад

    Jenna has been looking good lately👍

  • @cygriffin83
    @cygriffin83 2 года назад +1

    Durant left the Warriors 2 seasons ago!!! This is a non topic other than dramatic effect. KD don’t care… this the definition of living rent free in people head!!!!

  • @dsstewbaby9
    @dsstewbaby9 2 года назад

    👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @otisls
    @otisls 9 месяцев назад

    TOP 15 positionally {G, SG, SF, PF, C}:
    -1st team: Magic, MJ, Dr. J, Duncan, Kareem
    -2nd team: , Kobe, Bird, , SHAQ
    -3rd team: Isaiah, Wade, , Garnett, Olajuwon
    WADR to the progenitors {Russell, Wilt, Oscar, Elgin, et.al.}

  • @stupidswagsmirks
    @stupidswagsmirks 2 года назад +1

    Any great player would have made GSW unbeatable. It’s such a simple convo

    • @jdelgado216
      @jdelgado216 2 года назад

      Not any player is KD especially in 2016 when he was in his prime

    • @stupidswagsmirks
      @stupidswagsmirks 2 года назад +1

      @@MeBihhhh thank you! ppl act like being up 3-1 happening by accident or something lol

  • @lakersworld2125
    @lakersworld2125 2 года назад +1

    When you win before him it’s already proven the current team can win so I’m not shocked one bit.

  • @lopaka526
    @lopaka526 2 года назад +1

    How is worst case for KD not missing the play-in like LeBron?

  • @Lexyboogie
    @Lexyboogie 2 года назад

    Saying KD’s legacy is dead is way too harsh. You don’t need to have the greatest career in history to still have a great legacy. However, it’s obvious that his legacy got knocked down several notches after this.

  • @wedieyobeyob2177
    @wedieyobeyob2177 2 года назад +1

    KD why is he you talk about him?!🏀🔑
    Net didn't win yet ?Why is he bleam for Help Golden state !?🏀🔑

  • @longchouskii4455
    @longchouskii4455 2 года назад +1

    It’s kinda like Kobe and Shaq back in the day! Kobe was furious when Shaq got a championship without him, but Kobe bounced back! KD will bounce back!!!

    • @wallyjackson9543
      @wallyjackson9543 2 года назад +3

      He won’t

    • @manan612
      @manan612 2 года назад +2

      Kobe was 26 when Shaq won in Miami & 30 when he won in 09. KD will be 34 next season. He’ll get one or two more chances. That’s about it.

    • @deonterector7424
      @deonterector7424 2 года назад

      @@wallyjackson9543 He won't if he's hurt by early mid season and the nets keeps changing teams mid season.
      Dude had to play over 40 minutes on his repaired Achilles the last 19 games of the regular season and in the playoffs.

  • @shawnwilliam1802
    @shawnwilliam1802 2 года назад +1

    This is a reach. KD is a 2-time champ w/ 2 finals MVP. Top 75 all time, top 20 of all time, regular season MVP net worth 200 million & climbing & probably in a group chat w/ Steph talking twice a week. He’s not tripping, he’s trolling

  • @munir9527
    @munir9527 2 года назад +1

    Starting 5: Curry, Jordan, James, Duncan, Jabbar

    • @tamacaharris7674
      @tamacaharris7674 2 года назад +1

      All in their prime, the rest of the league would just have to go fishing, because that would've been unstoppable! 💯

  • @hart63
    @hart63 2 года назад

    Worst case if you would have gone and injured. He was healthy he had a great series against Milwaukee last year showing that he was one of the elite players of the league still he doesn't care what you think or what any fans think

  • @BRoy978
    @BRoy978 2 года назад

    Only reason why the moss comparison doesn’t work is because they didn’t win a ring while he was there, & then the next year Tom Brady had torn his acl. Also football is of a team reliant sport, basketball is a team sport as well but you carry you’re team “easier” in basketball than football

  • @heltvolt4403
    @heltvolt4403 2 года назад +1

    My honest opinion: KD needed the Warriors more than the Warriors needed KD. The proof is this year’s championship. I don’t think the Warriors would’ve won the 2017 finals without KD just like I don’t think he would’ve won a championship if he stayed at OKC. However, we cannot deny one thing: when in Golden State, KD CARRIED that team. He was simply their best player and it was not even close! But still, I think that the Warriors would eventually win another championships even if KD had never joined them. They just wouldn’t be as dominant

    • @ThesGt
      @ThesGt 2 года назад +2

      He was the best on clutch for sure but that's only because warriors had curry and he attracts the defense freeing guys like kd and klay and the rest

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh 2 года назад +3

      This isn’t ground breaking news big fella. Literally everyone has thought this since the day of the trade😂

    • @SaraTBV
      @SaraTBV 2 года назад +1

      KD never carried warriors, carrying means he's the only one doing the heavy lifting with little help

  • @franklinkoonce4245
    @franklinkoonce4245 2 года назад +1

    JSU is America's Team

  • @mphomashike5419
    @mphomashike5419 2 года назад +1

    1st to comment from South Africa 🇿🇦

    • @HuggiePacino
      @HuggiePacino 2 года назад +4

      You better delete this before you get in trouble

  • @joeymanny
    @joeymanny 2 года назад

    its not a deduction on KD's Legacy, Its just KD did not move and cant be compare to other greats who won in a right way of his own, like giannis and steph did recently

  • @WealthbuilderzTV
    @WealthbuilderzTV 2 года назад +2

    Not dead? Sheesh. It’s okay to have buyers remorse though

  • @keyes4eva
    @keyes4eva 2 года назад

    Wrf just happened. I agreed with everything Nick just said.