Thanks for showing older games! I do get tired of the new and shiny games that are mostly on RUclips, and I want to discover the fun and puzzles in older game titles.
Very interesting game - definitely considering getting this one! Chess player here: I like abstract strategy games and it's good to learn about other abstracts, because I can't play chess with friends or family, because I'm too far ahead of them. When playing other abstract games, however, my friends still often lose but it's more interesting for me.
I like the new background! Great video as always. I really enjoy your channel…I’ve been recently seeking out older games and your channel has helped me a lot!
Looks interesting, but also looks expensive and maybe hard to find. I doubt I will acquire a copy anytime soon. But thanks for the suggestion! I've noted it. Who knows what'll happen in the future.
I agree that "Ponte del Diavolo" is a good and interesting game, but for me it's nowhere near as good as those games I consider "top tier" of the 2-player-perfect-information-abstract genre, like "Lines of Action", "Amazons", "Gyges" or "Tzaar" (my favourite of the Gipf-series). The main reason for that is that the game arc in "P.d.D." often just isn't very satisfying: As you pointed out yourself, the first few moves can already be decisive for the outcome, and when there is a major difference in playing strength that is regularly the case. Having to play out such games can become a boring chore. I used to play this at Yucta.de and actually became quite good at it (61 wins, 1 draw, 9 losses), but eventually abandoned the game because in online play the tendency seems to be that the weaker the players the lesser their tendency to resign lost positions (sometimes they just don't realise that the game is already decided, or maybe they speculate on the opponent dropping dead.....?).
Yeah, you really have to be willing to concede, or hope your opponent makes a mistake. I admit, I'm not a huge fan of the genre, and haven't played many different games of this type. (I've always loved the look of Nestor Games, and would have definitely explored some of those, if not for the high shipping cost from Spain to Canada.) As I said in the video, I can't really do a comparison, I just have to judge PdD on its own merits - merits that present themselves to me, someone not really into these types of games. Without comparing to other games that may be better (and I defer to your judgement on that!) I really like PdD. 🙂
@@BoardGems As for Nestor Games: That was a fascinating project, while it lasted (apparently Nestor has had to go out of commission due to technical difficulties). The games used to have spectacular bits, but were too often let down by lacklustre (or outright hideous) graphic design of the boards. Of the countless interesting games produced there, if you are interested in unearthing more hidden abstract "gems", I'd recommend you check out "Zaic", "Murus Gallicus" and "Adaptoid" (the latter by Nestor himself).
Thanks for showing older games! I do get tired of the new and shiny games that are mostly on RUclips, and I want to discover the fun and puzzles in older game titles.
Yesss! Just found a copy! Can't wait to try it! Thx for the very interesting description.
I hope you like it! And if you don’t like it, I hope you don’t blame me too much. I like it, but who the hell am I? 😁
Very interesting game - definitely considering getting this one! Chess player here: I like abstract strategy games and it's good to learn about other abstracts, because I can't play chess with friends or family, because I'm too far ahead of them. When playing other abstract games, however, my friends still often lose but it's more interesting for me.
It's always fun to see different games in the background; my son loves seeing how many he has played or can identify.
I like the new background! Great video as always. I really enjoy your channel…I’ve been recently seeking out older games and your channel has helped me a lot!
I'm glad they've been helpful!
What the hell does this guy mean to say at 5:46?
this looks fun
Please talk about Mosaic by Continuum Games.
Looks interesting, but also looks expensive and maybe hard to find. I doubt I will acquire a copy anytime soon. But thanks for the suggestion! I've noted it. Who knows what'll happen in the future.
I agree that "Ponte del Diavolo" is a good and interesting game, but for me it's nowhere near as good as those games I consider "top tier" of the 2-player-perfect-information-abstract genre, like "Lines of Action", "Amazons", "Gyges" or "Tzaar" (my favourite of the Gipf-series).
The main reason for that is that the game arc in "P.d.D." often just isn't very satisfying:
As you pointed out yourself, the first few moves can already be decisive for the outcome, and when there is a major difference in playing strength that is regularly the case.
Having to play out such games can become a boring chore. I used to play this at Yucta.de and actually became quite good at it (61 wins, 1 draw, 9 losses), but eventually abandoned the game because in online play the tendency seems to be that the weaker the players the lesser their tendency to resign lost positions (sometimes they just don't realise that the game is already decided, or maybe they speculate on the opponent dropping dead.....?).
Yeah, you really have to be willing to concede, or hope your opponent makes a mistake.
I admit, I'm not a huge fan of the genre, and haven't played many different games of this type. (I've always loved the look of Nestor Games, and would have definitely explored some of those, if not for the high shipping cost from Spain to Canada.) As I said in the video, I can't really do a comparison, I just have to judge PdD on its own merits - merits that present themselves to me, someone not really into these types of games. Without comparing to other games that may be better (and I defer to your judgement on that!) I really like PdD. 🙂
@@BoardGems As for Nestor Games: That was a fascinating project, while it lasted (apparently Nestor has had to go out of commission due to technical difficulties). The games used to have spectacular bits, but were too often let down by lacklustre (or outright hideous) graphic design of the boards.
Of the countless interesting games produced there, if you are interested in unearthing more hidden abstract "gems", I'd recommend you check out "Zaic", "Murus Gallicus" and "Adaptoid" (the latter by Nestor himself).