They made a Game Theory about my game? (Indigo Park's Creator Reacts)
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Game Theory just released a video on Indigo Park: Chapter 1. I decided to do a reaction to it as the game's creator and project lead. While I can't give up all of the lore, it's super special to me that Tom covered the game.
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Indigo Park is an immersive first-person exploration game that takes you on a thrilling journey through the eerie remnants of an abandoned amusement park. As the protagonist, you will step into the shoes of an adventurous soul eager to uncover the mysteries hidden within this once vibrant and lively attraction.
Explore a desolate world where time has stood still, and nature has reclaimed its territory. The amusement park, once filled with joyous laughter and cheerful music, now echoes with haunting silence and faded memories. Guided by an A.I. assistant*, help restore power to the destroyed amusement park while you avoid the reason it shut down.
Once one of the most renowned theme parks of the world, Indigo Park was suddenly shut down after a mysterious, horrific incident. Years later, in a search for nostalgia, you break into the park to explore the abandoned attractions. You may remember this place, but you'll need some help from a special A.I. friend*.
Previously the park's A.I.-driven* tour guide, Rambley the Raccoon will take over screens and other aspects of the park to communicate with you! Explore the park as you find collectables, secrets, and discover why the park was shut down, all while being guided by Rambley! Find items, solve puzzles, and restore power to the park as you run from the reason it shut down.
*Rambley, the AI character is a work of fiction, and is not utilizing actual "AI", rather stunning 2D animation and voice acting to communicate with the player.
Coming soon!
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"Only Game Theory could take a game about an abandoned theme park and go "Oh! The British!"" is a quote that is going to live rent free in my head for weeks.
same lol
“The monster is named beast. Now in the bible-“
@@Cheese_man539they actually have made mistakes from not knowing bits of the Bible before. I forget what franchise it was, but they didn't understand a super common important reference.
@@Celtic1020 it's not really as weird, even if they like reading books, Bible is quite big and dense. Also, not everyone is religious, so most of the time assuming this is common reference is pretty weird?
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I find it hilarious how Game theory completely missed that Lloyd was actually the ORIGINAL big mascot for the park.
With him being painted in the gate instead of Rambley in the old Isaac video, with the Rambley ride most probably initially being Lloyd ride and with statue of Lloyd being behind the stage in the theater - the same type of statue that is now Rambley and Isaac at the gate.
Lloyd was most probably replaced by Rambley at some point (even "he hurts Lloyd" could be attributed to that).
Rambley is actually the "Donald Duck" here.
I think the phrase animatronic Mollie was saying is "Not Rambly - he hate Lloyd". Maybe a joke playing part in an older routine?
@@greenstarlover1 I keep trying to hear "he hates Lloyd", but that's a very strong "ur" sound between the "h" and "ts" sounds.
To those curious, at 8:41 you can see the gate with Rambley painted on the right. Two seconds later, you have the Isaac video with Lloyd clearly painted in that exact same spot on the same gate.
@@GeassX fair.
Another thing, the photo of Lloyd and Rambley in the Rambley's Railroad might be a reference to Mr. Toad's Wild Ride being rebranded to The Many Adventures of Winnie The Pooh where a photo of Mr.Toad handing the deed over to Owl was left in the ride as an easter egg, this along with the Lloyd Limos signs left over imply the ride was originally Lloyd Limos.
At least the dev isn't like the one from Hello Neighbor that begged MatPat for theories.
He has my respect there.
iirc wasn't that just the publisher trying to push their messy game for a gt video
You know that it was Tinybuild (The Publisher) and not the Dynamic Pixels (The Developers) that tweeted those, and that Tinybuild's CEO also apologized for the tweets in Matpat's subreddit. Right?
And also the fact that those tweets were like years ago
people need to realize that the publishers are not the developers
Because by the time hello neighbour was fully released, it was irrelevant and hated
alpha 1 is much scarier than released 😢
I've always loved the detail after Mollie gets decapped that Rambley says "I can see that youre scare-- angr-- upset..."
It's such a small detail but it genuinely builds the scene so much because you can actually feel/imagine the face the Player is making that the computer would have a hard time picking apart "scared" from "angry" and settling on a general "upset" because their face is so contorted in fear and dismay of what they just saw.
I hope this gets seen, if nothing else because I want the writer of that scene to know that that little detail got noticed
Rambley keeps mentioning facial tracking data, so he likely has a program dedicated to working out what mood you're in. Either the protagonist's expression was rapidly changing or the program wasn't certain and kept throwing out different results. Either way, Rambley's speech synthesis would change to the new output immediately, rather than complete the word like a human would.
It's only my interpretation, of course, but I think it paints a neat image of Rambley as being sapient but still very much a computer. He doesn't think the way humans do.
@@ReddwarfIV I agree, and it leaves the Player's expression up to interpretation.
To me, I imagine a static face of abject horror and concern, which is not something Rambley would be trained to spot as it's not a face kids would or should be making at the park.
To others, is could super easily be read as the Player's face changing as they go through various thoughts and emotions, unable to settle on feeling one way for long enough for Rambley to even know what you're feeling and only being able to "average" it out(so to speak) to "upset"
Wasn't confused also sometbing said? Or am I imaging thing lmao
I noticed that and I thought it was depressing
Eh while that makes sense, I believe a bit more in what a few other people speculated about it, which is that he still has programming from the park on things like scripts, things to say, things he CANT say, etc. In this case, your park mascot AI saying "scared" or "angry" probably wouldn't be allowed, so when he tried it glitches and he's forced to go with just the general, more "soft" term of just "upset". Which I can believe considering you can tell he has scripts and pre programmed behavior for certain things based on the way his sprite moves more rigidly during those moments, but to be fair I can see either that or the face tracking thing to be true! And honestly like both speculations there lol its a very nice detail either way
Rambley is soooo cute and so great to have as a companion.
I'd actually be sad if he ended up being evil, just because it's something new in the genre and he seems like a great character who's genuinely concerned and compassionate.
I'll be sad too 😢 I don't think the cute AI character will turn against us or become evil
They should go with the Moon route and while making him suspicious, not make him a villain.
My personal theory is... that there is no villain! At least not directly. Whole thing is more closer to natural accident similar to Disney Discovery Island, what was infested by dangerous amebas. Just with killer hybrids. So I personally would imply series of unrelated local dramas, which such institutions are full off. But the core one would be that hybrids were created illegally as off book hidden attraction for rich clients of particular tastes. But then escaped from cages when park was actually closed for renovation. Someone on top closed it under fake excuse, to cover illegal activity, but didn't have enough pull to actually recapture rogue assets. But thing is that those people are long gone and probably would not care. Hint toward that is actually lack of promotion of hybrids as attraction and as wild animals they could not work with humans, without supervision. Though employees heard about new mascots, they may not actually know anything about it. That is my take at least and it actually would be more interesting.
Afer finishing watching it. Yeh, it is clearly a red hearing. As some people pointed out Loyd (Lion) was actually the original main mascot. But now we see Racoon statues all over the place. Despite narration claim that they didn't have even proper costume before. I think Rambly did something what give him status as new star mascot and that could work as explanation why park was closed (killer mascots would be something well know, if it would happen during park opening). They basically were replacing assets in it with Rambly, but then things go south. So yeh, while there is a clear tension between two, I do not think AI is actually the bad guy here.
It'd be interesting if this was a "No villain" scenario. Aside from the company and abusive employees, but they're all gone and seemingly no longer an active threat.
I very much doubt rambley is a villain…
I knew he'd react to the claim that Rambley is evil! Tom isn't even the only one who has that same idea.
I have that same idea!!!
HE IS NOT EVIL!!! THAT IS JUST BULL****
If Rambley DOES turn out to be Evil; YOU CAN KISS MY INTEREST IN THIS GAME GOODBYE; BECAUSE I WANTED HIM TO BE THE SAME ANTITHESIS TO PORTAL'S GLADOS THAT WE SEE HIM AS IN CHAPTER 1
@@New3DSLuigi364 Just because he's cute and cheerful, doesn't mean he can't be evil! So that's all a character needs to be to FOOL EVERYONE? Cute, happy, and cheerful??? Too many people want him to be a good guy, but THAT'S WAAAAAAAAAY TO PREDICTABLE! It would be nice to have this cute and cheerful creature turn out to be the Mastermind behind it all!
is the name edward?
@@deejaepjs I DIDN'T LOVE RAMBLEY BECAUSE HE WAS GLADOS; I LOVED HIM BECAUSE HE'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF GLAD0S; AND I WANT HIM TO STAY THAT WAY!!
"there's stuff that people haven't found"
that line only is gonna bring 3x times more theories and gamers that wanna find every detail
I commented on a lot of details they missed when they played the game on GTLive.
😂😅
4:01 Its good to be humble but you need to accept the compliments and be proud, for a first proyect its amazing.
Often you’re your own worse critic. It’s his project he knows it inside and out the flaws stick out more for him.
@@jyin475 That's the downside of making something yourself, but he needs to feel proud of what he has created
@@GruntGan oh i agree and i think he does for sure.
@@jyin475yeah, when you make something yourself, you see all the tiny imperfections that others can very easily not notice. I’ve had it happen just making remixes and medleys of music. I’ll upload a video and think, “ah crap, that transition is a bit off” while everyone I show doesn’t notice it one bit.
@@Weatherboy1102 i paint miniatures for TTRPGs and I spend WAY too long trying to make things i can only see with my magnifying light perfect that no one will EVER notice but i KNOW its there.
I like the idea of Rambley just being innocent and not another analog horror children's attraction mascot. Ever since Five Nights At Freddy's came out, that concept has been beaten to death. It's so nice that a raccoon and just be a friendly little guy.
Except the "main mascot isn't evil and genuinely friendly" is being done with Poppy Playtime and Garten of Banban.
Like what they did with Glamrock freddy which was a nice change.
@@UltraVioletKnight Arguably poorly in those cases, so it would be nice to see it done well.
This feels like where the DM listens to players as they make theories. And checks their notes to see how close they are.
But also, congrats on getting a theory on your game!
Doesn't seem he'll make changes last minute to prove everyone wrong either, unlike Scott.
@@DarkPsychoMessiahyup seems pretty planned out to me
@@DarkPsychoMessiah That alone makes me respect this guy WAY more than Scott 😒
I love how geese casually denies things he said on stream responding to chat messages
"He has the mind of a 3 year old" and he isnt the villian
he has the mind of a 3y and the ability to chop off someone's head with the doors
definitely nothing to worry about
@@deniskhafizov6827 "hmm yes lets give the AI assistant programmed to act like a child full access to these very dangerous metal doors nothing could possibly go wrong"
huh
Shut @@suspiciousamogus
@@shinedog2156Let them cook
*rambley decapitates molly, likely by accident, to save the player from her trying to murder them*
game theory: EEEEEEEVILLLLLLLLL!!!!!
- mermaid man
No, it's evil of Rambly to lie and say you saved Molly instead of killing her
@cursedGalataea Or the "rewriting history" is him trying to protect his own mental health by creating a narrative where he didn't just kill one of his friends (in a justified self-defence situation).
People lie to themselves all the time, doesn't mean they have malicious intent when they do it.
The rest of Rambley's lying could also be attributed to him wanting to believe the park is still operational (because he would get to do what he was made for and not be lonely), and he _drops_ that self-delusion when a guest is in harm's way.
If he was actually evil, if he was responsible for the mascots going feral, he could have just kept the staff room door closed and let Molly kill you. He didn't.
@@cursedGalataeaI believe he repressed that memory because he couldnt cope with the fact that he killed molly, and instead convinced himself that he helped her. Or something like that anyway.
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I noticed that for most of the collectibles it's "Oh, I remember this, MY mom this and that"
But for the Poodle plush it's second person "It doesn't look like any character YOU've seen in the parks."
I also found it interesting, that the theory didn't comment on the Rambleberry magically materializing out of the arcade machine
Its just a reference to playtime with percy, like the game said, some kid probably just left it there on accident
@suspiciousamogus That wasn't the point, I'm saying the way that dialogue is written is unlike the ones for the other collectibles.
For the other collectibles, it's the main character recounting their own experiences
"I once drank so much, I threw up"
"She was my mom's favourite"
"I remember these"
But for the Poodle Plush, it's written like some second person is recounting the main character's memories for them
"You've never seen one of these before"
@@icebeam-enterprise8164 that is quite peculiar but i dont really see how this is anything more than the creators wording the reference collectible in the wrong way
Who knows though maybe this will happen with more collectibles and i'm completely wrong
@@suspiciousamogus
It's a weird inconsistency, that all the collectibles would be described in the first person, but that one specifically in the second person.
It could be a mistake, but it may also be something else.
I just thought it was worth pointing out.
@@icebeam-enterprise8164its probably a quote or a reference to something
If in the end the player has to kill or destroy Rambly I'll literally cry.
extra DTFU (damn that's f*cked up) points if he frantically pleads for his life or something as he is being/about to be destroyed.
still will be sad in the end if that happens because I love that cute raccoon.
The part where Rambly goes into the monologue after killing Molly is really good.
do not ever tell them want you want to not happen, because some men just want to watch the world burn (this has happened to me with a cartoon that was new, i cant quite remember it, it was back in 2012 I think)
My baby doesn’t deserve to be dead 😢
i will sob
That point I’ll just uninstall mid game no joke
Watch him be like Janet from the Good Place where he can’t actually “die” but still has a failsafe where he’ll beg for his life.
If Rambley turns out to be evil, I hope there's a story arc where the player can be evil too. Rambley is friend shaped and likes trains, I'd commit horrific acts of virtual violence to earn his favor ~
Same here! I love that little raccoon!
The racoon must be protected,war crimes required
Ed: But i can fix him...
Laura: my brother in christ he's trying to kill you
In all seriousness, i am willing to bet oh so many things he's not going to turn evil at all
Just a personal theory, but I think the noise that wards off Lloyd is just an alarm related to the heart monitor feature that Rambley mentions the Critter Cuff has when you get it. Getting "up close & personal" with Lloyd was Ed's 1st real brush with the living mascots. His heartrate spikes in panic, the alarm goes off/lights up, & Lloyd's driven off. By the time of Mollie's chase though, it *doesn't* react. Ed's gotten into the swing of things enough to keep his cool (enough to try - & fail - to fight Mollie off when she catches him instead of freezing like he did when Lloyd grabbed him).
I can honestly see that happening, game theory worthy 👍
Makes sense why Mollie doesn't trigger it.
I'd like to add on the idea of fight or flight and how that might also make sense to why the alarm might not have triggered against molly.
With molly, the player notices and registers the threat from enough distance to let their flight response kick in, but with Lloyd, he catches the player off guard, grabbing onto them and practically closing off any way to either fight or flight, which in turn would raise your sense of dread and likely your heartrate more.
Just some food for thought.
Ooo I really like that
This makes a LOT of sense.
My theory: the macaw animatronic says "that's not rambley, he hurts Loyd, he hurts Loyd"
Rambley got a costume and a mascot..... He isn't in control of this mutant raccoon. One that looks like him but is much much more dangerous than the ai assistant
Yeah! Like you’d describe a clone of yourself as the “not-you”. So “Not-Rambley” would be his living mascot and if he has any of his hatred of Loyd….
I agree!
that makes so much sense- oh my god- i hope we can see how fluffy mutant rambley is- that'd be the best!
At first I thought she was saying "Yes, Lloyd- Yes, Lloyd- Yes, Lloyd" which I thought was something weird 😭
@@Icey_FoxVB😳😳💀💀
I feel like when the animatronic says “he hurts Lloyd” they are referring to the employees, remeber rambley is still in the digital world so he can’t do it, the animatronic even says “not rambley”, lastly remember how the characters act more animal rather then human, and think how lions act, aggressive and dangerous, so the employees with have to hurt Lloyd to get him to behave
It could also be "He hates Lloyd" not hurts.
On spiffs playthrough he said mason had mentioned on stream that molly was saying jibberish
@@shinyrayquaza9 yeah but then again I feel like if someone dedicated enough time to it they can translate the gibberish to something, that or the not rambley part could be something different
Ever since people started bringing up that whole "he hurts lloyd" thing, i've called BS. That's clearly just a mesh of voice samples put together, it's not meant to actually say anything, if people are hearing anything, in my opinion it's just a coincidence
@@Butterdog333 Mason is the dev, the gibberish is gibberish
12:45 I completely agree with how great this part is. It's SOOO GOOOD when a character shows genuine emotional vulnerability and opens their heart to another character. It's a sign of maturity, trust, and affection. I love it.
21:13 Bro, that 'I know what happens but need to shut up' feeling has got me looking back to when I watched Death Note with my family and I was the only one who knew the story beats already. With my how my mum loves trying to solve the mystery along with the characters (big fan of detective shows) I felt like I had to poker face as hard as Light. "Oh, you think so? That's interesting to think about" type beats.
Hey my mum enjoyed Death Note too! But yeah, I know that feeling; except with Dangan Ronpa...she pretty much whipped through the trials when we watched the anime together.
I for one, just hope we get a mascot horror game where the cute friendly mascot assistant that is actually friendly to the player and doesn't betray you down the road.
At the very end of his livestream two weeks ago (the one where he watches Matt patt play. I just watched it and this was at 2:28:00 I think?) someone donated and said they needa know if Rambly will turn evil for their own mental health and he confirmed Rambly isn’t evil. I haven’t watched this video yet but since it’s gonna get more views than the end of a livestream he’s probably intentionally more vague so people can keep theorizing, but yeah, he isn’t evil
Yay!
@@jasperjudd Thanks for letting me know. That's a relief
@@Kerberlos your welcome! It was for me too! It’s nice to be able to get attached to a character without being afraid of your heart being broken lol 😭
agreed
I'd honestly be super disappointed if Rambley turned out evil, having an AI character being on our side is such a breath of fresh air.
Mascot games like Fnaf have always seemed to be about destruction and ruin and the one thing I noticed a lot of people have always seemed to want is to restore the characters back to what they once were. To repair them.
So far I can't recall a single mascot game actually doing that, at best it's been about picking up the pieces and putting things to rest, especially whatever ghosts seems to linger.
I don't know if Indigo will go that route, but there seems to be hints of it given Rambley's plan, then again... there seems to be hints pointing towards all sorts of conclusions.
Honestly the thing I'm most curious about is that Ramble berry, how in the world did it get out of the arcade game?
You might like my friendly neighbourhood :D the good ending has you helping the characters
@@squiboco Oh... you're right, I didn't even realize that until you mentioned it.
It is "helping" more than "repairing/fixing", but it does fit.
The game completely slipped my mind when thinking about mascot games.
My Friendly Neighborhood's good ending (spoilers) actually has the MC restore the studio and get the abandoned and neglected puppets their show back! It's an amazing game with a lot of love and attention poured into it, I highly recommend checking it out :3 (Jacksepticeye's playthrough is a good one!)
@pizzatimenotstarted Having a post-game restored park would honestly be awesome.
Hear me out: Rambley is secretly evil, but not intensionally. He genuinely wants to help and restore the park, but he has no concept of the bad that could occur due to the restoration, nor how much pain the mascots were in.
Then he’s not evil
To be evil is to intentionally want to hurt people, if he thinks he’s doing what’s right, he’s not evil, just wrong
@@pemanilnoob
Not entirely true. He could be so focused on his park and “bringing smiles to the children” that he robs his “friends” of free will and is basically torturing them. Salem is probably also evil, but is basically just holding a mirror up to Rambley. One of those “we aren’t so different you and I” kinda of things.
@@blackchibisan8116aren't his "friends" not real and mutant animals though
@@blackchibisan8116 you didn’t say a single thing to imply that rambley would be intentionally evil
And I generally disagree, but i will not do any sort of lore argument discussion crap
@@pemanilnoob
I think this is less lore discussion and more if one has to be intentionally causing harm to be evil. Neglect is still a form of abuse and abuse is an evil visited upon others. Even if we listen to Molly’s VO on the ride we can tell she isn’t enjoying what she does but Rambley seems entirely clueless… or is playing clueless.
Honestly the double eye texture issue just looks like light reflections in the eye because it’s so dark black, I would have thought nothing of it and the light was just reflecting lol
Please god if Rambley is evil I will cry so hard like I genuinely love him so SO much I don't think I can handle that kinda betrayal man-- like I'd just die lmao
I hate that damn raccoon I hope he's evil and I get to erases him forever I'd like him to beg as I press a big red button that delete him
Welcome to another episode of "what's worse?"!
Today's question; what's worse?:
A) Watching your comfort character turn out to be the bad guy and have the main character have to kill him
or
B) Accidentally seeing gore of your comfort character
You decide!
14:49 maybe add a button that sorta pops out but fits in that’s like “hear Rambley’s opinion on this item”
the rambler
I saw that video and I thought when he said “because I like trains!” was the best part lol:3
Rambley saying “because I like trains” is one of the best parts of the game and it will absolutely become a meme
VRRRRRRRMMMMNNN
I mean the build up to that phrase is fantastic:
"Do YOU know why RAMBLEY the Raccoon loves RAMBLEY's railroad?" (wait 1.5 seconds to make you think while trying to assess the situation)
" 'Cause I like trains!" [-> me on my way to laugh and cry while getting one of my biggest smile in 6 months of nonsense and constant work. ;) ]
THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE COMING ALONG
True
As long as Rambley is genuine and just a lil loveable guy tryna help, I will be perfectly happy.
I refuse to watch that particular GT video cuz I am too scared they will make a good point.
You’re sigma
They don't besides maybe one? Most of them are just "well sure this COULD be him being silly, but what if it ISN'T?!"
I'd say the best point they make is the Molly Macaw animatronic saying "Rambley hurts Lloyd!" over and over, which is definitely suspicious. Also I'm surprised he didn't mention the terrible voice acting from one of the guys in the rambley mask voice recording- I mean, it could just be a bad casting, but it could also be one of them reading from a script and it's meant to be an actor acting as.. a bad actor LMFAO
Edit: okay so its a reference xD but not a bad thought
None of the points they brought up were even worth a dime. If anything I just felt worse for Rambley. Viewing as a misunderstood child. (DON'T RE INTERPRET THAT IN A FNAF WAY)
Rambley's the Jar Jar Binks of the series.
They didn’t talk much about rambley
_My_ game theory is that there are multiple murderous mascots of the same character running around. Proof: that absolute nonsense at the beginning of the Molly chase sequence where she teleports in front of you and goes "nothing personal, kid"
i think thats a very real possibility too.
29:36 I think this point is kind of weak because it isn't just that Rambly doesn't have one and is mad that Lloyd does. He is angry because Lloyd is the only one that does. He asks why the others don't have one either after the theorists cut him off.
Dang that placeholder for the interaction where he would yap about stuff got me laughing up like "yo thassa egg man idk what to tell ya" 😂
"idk where that shit came from" i was rolling T^T
R.I.P for the top hat rambley we never got to see
29:26
Game Theory didn’t show the entire scene. Sure, Rambly got jealous, but they cut-off Rambly asking why his friends didn’t get one too. He got mad for them and stuck out for them since only Lloyd got one.
That’s the problem with this theory; Mason paved out character details during production about how Lloyd acts and he’s a jerk, Rambly tried to gloss-over what was happening since he just wants someone to talk to and help Indigo Park(if they’re desperate enough, they tend to see red as green), and why would Rambly kill Mollie? He has the motive for Lloyd, but not for Mollie unless if it was an act of mercy or a last resort for Rambly.
Edit:
Uniquegeese’s video: Meet the Cast-Indigo Park, at the 6;23(In that video), Mason states that Lloyd is self-centered and that the cast can barely tolerate him. So, even more of a reason why Rambly doesn’t like him. Imagine having this cocky jerk get this special merch while you and your friends get the normal merch…of course, you’d be mad at that.
Sometimes, Game Theory just needs to do more research on the Developer and their dev logs or else they miss crucial details like Mason directly stating that Lloyd is so self-centered, the main cast can barely tolerate him.
This is a great Theory and all, but personally I don't think Salem or Rambley are the Villains of Indigo Park, but maybe a different Mascot entirely. One which we haven't seen in the game at all yet, perhaps a new character in a future chapter.
Rambley does get special merch... His normal plush, spray-painted gold. The difference in effort between that and the retro Lloyd plush is night vs day.
@@ryanbourke7398Obviously the poodle did it
I think one of the many things that indigo park devs got right when making the game is how well the story is distributed. no matter if game theory is correct on it the lore or not, most of the recent indie horror games, such as Poppy playtime, have executed the way they only hinted at certain parts of the story allowing the player to come up with their own theories of what might’ve happened in the story, makes indigo park an actually good game, because of how well the lore and story of what happened to the park is nicely timed and not revealing too much all at once, not allowing the player to automatically know what’s going on in the story-
Props to you guys on that! ^^
Rambley is NOT EVIL. He just a cute raccoon mascot :3
33:15 It would be interesting if Salem’s section of the train ride secretly foreshadows how they might die if we are to encounter them later on.
Why would Rambley turn out to be 'evil'? Rambley has very much laid out his motivations already:
--Hopes the player will trust him and be his first friend since being abandoned 8 years ago, so he won't have to be alone anymore.
--Hopes to restore Indigo Park to be the amazing place it was before it was abandoned, because..
--Hopes to give his guests the best Indigo Park experience they can have, since this is his whole purpose in existing.
--Wants to keep the player alive, because the player dying would fail all three of the previous goals.
Rambley has already demonstrated the ability and willingness to break rules/protocol/his script in order to save the player's life; this shows he is not rigidly defined by his programming at this point. He has also expressed willingness to be open and honest with the player, and lying to the player doesn't benefit him in anyway related to the above motivations. He was really surprised and panicked when he saw the player being chased by Mollie, too. Every sign points to that Rambley really does care about the player.
Sure, there are no small number of questions to be answered, but we only just met him and started our adventure. I'd love a chance to just stop and ask Rambley some questions about what he knows of the state of the park, and the mascots in particular, but given that we seem to have a silent protagonist at the moment, it doesn't seem like that would happen.
I really like the idea of Rambley being an antithesis to GlaDOS, though. I enjoy the concept of having an AI friend helping me through the park, and trying his best to keep me safe because he genuinely cares about me. And I especially love the idea that I am _his_ ray of hope, too. Knowing that I am, in Rambley's words, his spark of sunshine, motivates me to brave an abandoned theme park full of killer mascots and who knows what other dangers, all just so I can help this lonely abandoned AI who has had it so rough, to finally have a purpose again.
The idea of Rambley turning around and trying to murder the player at some point is almost unthinkable to me. At least, I don't believe he'd do so of his _own_ accord. Granted he's been abandoned and alone for almost a decade, and given the state of things, some kind of mental breakdown at some point is not something I'd put out of the question. Even so, Rambley gets the benefit of the doubt in my book. I _am_ a little dubious about the idea that the park can be restored, but if Rambley thinks it can be done, I'll gladly place my trust in him. And hey, for all I know this 'magic kingdom' of his really does have a little magic left in it...
Ah yes, the ye olde magik of the great wizard, Dr. Moreau
I’d actually be happy to see him being a friend, but I’d also love the idea of him having some breakdown that causes a little doubt. Kind of like Weatley, but not power mad or anything and probably not as much destruction. Maybe more like a nervousness about the main character leaving him. I’d be happy with Rambley being good though, but I’m also interested in seeing what uniquegeese plans on doing.
this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One small issue. AI's are currently unable to feel emotions, meaning that Rambley is unable to have a mental breakdown. He's an AI, he only knows what we teach him. It's impossible to actually teach emotions. Or at least very hard to do so. Emotions is pretty much just chemicals that our brain interprets as emotions.
that just means rambley has good/noble intentions
he can still be EVIL without being against the player
Dude not even a day later 🤯🤯🤯bro is quick
For real!!
He likes game theory that makes sense
The one thing that keeps coming up for me is that mollie is in the cage in rambley rush, but seconds later she’s out in the open, being corrupted by Salem,and at no point do you see her pass you. This wouldn’t make any sense, unless, the one you fight is not actually mollie, but some sort of evil clone. Salem might be keeping the real mascots hostage, and she may have replaced them with evil clones, thus “and all my old friends are united again”. Rambley’s plan might be to get rid of the imposter clones, by killing them off 1 by 1. He might need the help of the real mascots who have physical bodies, to kill Salem. This also explains Lloyd and why the critter cuffs have a built in deterrent, which I assume rambley installed. Also in the music video, where he “fixes” mollie, could be replacing her evil clone with the real mascot. “He hurts Lloyd” might be him trying to hurt the clone. There is proof of a physical Rambley, in the fact that when you show the Rambley mask to Rambley and he plays the audio, the two staff members talk about being replaced, and right after they got the RACOON costume. These might not necessarily be clones, but also rogue physical counterparts in the sense that all of the characters might have an AI like Rambley, since Rambley has a physical counterpart. This also makes sense because Lloyd used to be the mascot before Rambley was, as seen in the intro video with Isaac indigo. This could make sense, with how Rambley is trapped in the entrance until you free him. Each of the AIs might be trapped in a different area of the map. But that’s just a theory, a GAME theory.
That is a pretty nice theory
Thanks!
it's supposed to represent the mascots being mistreated by the staff
Also, I’ve checked back on mason’s playthroughs, and he takes damage during rambley rush in all of them. Having created the game, it’s safe to assume that he has played through this numerous times, and must be pretty good at it. I searched RUclips, and cannot find someone who played rambley rush without taking any damage. I believe that there may be secret lore if you beat it without any damage taken. Mason did confirm that there were things that nobody has found yet, and I believe this could be it. Unfortunately, I don’t have access to the game, so I can’t test this, but I was wondering if anyone has beaten rambley rush without taking damage.
interesting thoughts!! i do like this idea :>
23:31 OH THE BRITSH
Tom isn't doing so hot on that pause frame, lol 25:00
He's riding the potential high
Dude, it has to feel like you're constantly about to explode, watching someone try to solve your game's lore and just having to sit there and be like "Interesting..." when internally you're just SCREAMING about every detail they're getting right or wrong
Not to mention thinking to yourself, "How can I possibly insert this cool possibility the Game Theory team has brought up into the next chapter, without causing a lengthy delay or changing the pre-existing script in an unnatural way?"
@@jordanhunter3375 this is how you get FNaF lore-slop, we don't want FNaF lore slop
I think the face says it all
I already know the MC has got to be named Edward Elric from Full Metal Alchemist. He's going on a similar journey of bringing the park back to life like Edward brings his brother back to life.
Makes sense
I knew it was edward...
I hope rambley is a sweet villain, someone who just wants to be free from the AI but doesn't want to see anyone truly hurt and wants to protect the player. I think the end with him closing the door on molly was him reacting to a code that has him required to help/save the humans from harm. I truly think he will be a sweet boy who only does bad things to his friends when necessary to protect humans. I also think the animatronic saying rambley hurts lloyd is talking about the cuff the player gets at the beginning of the game. I truly think he doesnt want to hurt the mascots.
I can see him growing a bit overprotective or possessive, but out of genuine concern. After all, you are the first friend he’s had in eight years.
so I read somewhere that Rambley is a good character. he's just programmed this way and truly wants the best for everyone.
Make it so in chapter 2 you can hug rambley he deserves a hug he's been alone for 8 years ❤❤
In terms of Rambley lying, or perhaps a hint at something else, I took note of the fact that after he mentions how he doesn't have eyes in the backstage of the theater, a camera is in there watching us
just because He doesnt have eyes there doesnt mean nobody does
That could just be a little mistake that the devs made like backseat gamers said
I can only guess his name is Edwin. Reference to the mystery of Edwin Drood where the characters in the unfinished story try to solve a murder. Edwin must have some sort of unsolved mystery relating to their past in the park.
TIL about Charles Dickens’s unfinished novel. Interesting.
8:25 I would love to see that the protagonist’s name would be a reference to hoot and chief or other influential figures in Disney urban exploration, since that’s basically what the protagonist is doing and it’s a fascinating subset of Disney parks fandom
UniqueGeese could do a animated shorts series of Rambley and friends, including Lloyd, doing a QnA giving vague, to avoid spoilers for future chapters, yet canonical answers to the community's most asked questions. X3 plus it will sate the fandom's hunger for lore and answers while the devs work on the future chapters. X3
Plus the QnA could help flesh out the character and Personalities of the living mascots. X3
I just can’t believe Matt missed most of the Lloyd encounters lol but ye I’m excited to see were Indigo park goes in the future
Oh, Matpat is gone now.
He is heading the GTlive channel still
@@nicestoriesnottherealstori3006 He's the one who played the game.
I extremely love how all Mason could do is just sitting there unable to say anything while having a LOT to say in mind ( i can see him holding his smile many time it's so cute😂)
Also, the way he spamming "I can't confirm nor deny it" is kinda funny to me. He's trying his best to not ruin the fun for us... can't wait for next chapter
Salem Skunk's name could be a reference to the Salem Witch Trials (1692-1693). People were falsely accused of witchcraft and had to confess or be hung. Their spell (or witchcraft) could've been seen as a bad influence on the other mascot, when she’s actually doing something good (just like Tom said). I posted this in the Game Theory's comment section.
salem has they/them pronouns im pretty sure
@@clowncake5198 I fixed it.
@@clowncake5198Salem goes by She/Them pronouns.
Or a King Diamond reference
Possibly, though if they were alluding to that, they would’ve named her Anne Hutchinson or something similar.
16:20 Huh! I thought she had all black eyes and that was the light shining on her eyes, I didn’t know they were pupils
I love Indigo Park so much good job on the game development. Can't wait for part 2 to come out
Imagine Geese just deciding to contradict the theories on purpose, just to make the theorists lose their sleep 🤣
Bro would be taking pages out of Scott Cawthon's book; being a massive troll 💀
I genuinely hope not. I'd much rather he pull an Alex Hirsch and make fake leaks or smth to mislead than actively change the vision he has right now. Changing it based on theories just leads to messy bs
@@kokirij0167 kinda reminds me abt how bendy chapter 3 was originally not going to be about alice angel but audiences loved alice so much that the dev team essentially rewrote all of chapter 3 to center around alice
I hope not. Works of media that do that often end up being worse off, because the creators rejecting correct fan theories means giving up on hints or foreshadowing they wrote in originally.
Please no, I don't want Indigo Park becoming Hello Neighbor
Rambley’s Railroad foreshadows the order of the characters in the chapters.
1-Mollie (confirmed)
2-Finley (teased)
3-Salem (seemingly)
4-Lloyd (not impossible)
we saw lloyd before properly meeting mollie(even if she was stalking us in the train ride) does that mean he'll be elsewhere? might be, he isnt dead exactly. but like-? yknow? that makes the (not impossible) make sense tbh. i think we're gonna meet finley for sure- i mean- we did go into oceanic odyssey which is his ride yknow? he might die which- worrisome tbh. more deaths is- eheheheh- youtube is gonna have a funky time with the playthroughs if the deaths get gorier. what if they're all fluffy? that'd be funky!
I can’t believe how many likes this got. Most of my comments barely get any!
No seriously. 95 likes on my comment is a big deal for me. NEW RECORD!!!
@@Sunshoop it could be the order of their deaths
@@nimikoissilly ohhhhh that makes sense too! Especially with the (confirmed) next to mollie
Just a quick thing here for any future theories on this game, Pay attention to the opening sequences. Two friends are chatting about RETURNING to a park they went to as kids. And throughout the game, through the collectables, see the same thing. you have obviously been to the park before. Now, if you take a quick listen to a few of Rambley's first words to the player, they are "I don't seem to have your face in our guest list. Is this your first time here at the park? Or did you just get plastic surgery?". This is a small detail, but might imply that the player might have been involved in some sort of accident at some point. Either that, or the 8 years difference might be affecting it... or its just for emersion. Anyway, W game, I've been looking forward to it for so long.
Honestly I interpret this as more less due to how much time has passed since Ed has last been to the park. We know that at minimum it's been 8 years or more. Can't really assume age but Ed was likely a child during his last visit.
While I am not sure this detail was planned this way, but even the best facial recognition tech we have today struggles at matching childhood pics to adult one. I work a lot with this tech professionally. So while I can't really confirm if the limits of this real world tech were thought about when planning this dialog line, this detail alone screams more like a lot of time has past instead of it implying Ed had plastic surgery or some sort of other disfigurement, to me at least. This line seems more like a prescripted generic line Ramblry's AI would use when he doesn't recognize a visitor.
Or maybe they didn't had AI when he went to the park
@rawrdino7046 That's also possible. The fact is that we as players don't know how long it's been since Ed was last at the park or how long the Rambley AI has existed.
Even if nothing can be confirmed or denied in the video, it's still pretty fun to see the reaction to it, along with the small comments throughout. Me and my brother would talk to each other about the shows we watch, and sometimes one of us didn't watch the show, and neither of us likes spoilers, so we would try our darndest to talk about the moment so that we don't spoil, and to convince the other to watch the show. This video feels like that.
I saw the thumbnail of Game theory's video on "Rambley being Evil" and didn't click it, because I don't feel like seeing evidence to support it, lol. There's a lot of cool stuff in their video besides him being evil, so I should've watched it. Seeing the title made me feel like hearing the theories like, "one of the characters in the show was in a coma all along and dreamed up everything" thing. Also, reading the other comments, the idea that Rambley doesn't understand he's doing evil could be interesting, but I prefer a buddy in the game.
So...some of the theories align...I see, interesting.
If Rambley turns out to be evil make a route where we can go along with his plans anyway, I love him too much
23:25 “Only GameTheroy. Can play a game about an abandoned theme park. And go oh the British”
-Unique Geese 2024
Theroy? Isn’t it theory!
lol
bro try to joke aobut sun suz
6:20 If I ever make a fangame of Indigo Park, I’m just going to reference this
Yeah, not realizing i can click the collectibles for extra dialogue was something that happened to me as well. a "click to show to Rambley" tooltip when hovering over the collectibles would be very helpful
6:40 power point ahh switch to matpat
he appeared like a bueatiful angel 😍
Here is what I think about it: I don’t think Rambley is the villain, if you think about it the park was closed for years which means nobody could fix his problems and maybe because of that he can be sometimes wrong about things. And about the Rambley hurting Lloyd maybe what she meant was that she was answering someone’s question if Rambley hurts Lloyd and she answered it that it wasn’t him but he (maybe the staff) hurts Lloyd.
I always thought it was "hes not friendly, he hurts lloyd,he hurts lloyd" not rambley lol
My guess is that the Rambley hurts Lloyd line is in reference to the critter cuff emitting the noise that scared off Lloyd later in the chapter. Which could easily be an automatic trigger and not Rambley our AI friend's conscious doing.
About what the Anomatronic Mollie's statement we have to acknowledge that she was damaged and her voice module was probably on the spritz so what we heard over the static may not have been the complete statement.
Yeah… I’m not convinced she was actually saying anything. It’s certainly not distinguishable. I really think the “he hurts Lloyd” line is really weak evidence for any theory on this game.
I think the Salem The Skunk has something to do the park, because Mollie said "Get back in you're cage Bird" btw Mollie (Robot) Said "He hurt Lloyd, He hurt Lloyd"
The Mollie robot is referring to Rambley it says :“That’s not Rambley, he hurt Lloyd, he hurt Lloyd, he hurt-”
@@safwankamaly495 oh ok
i remember being a fan of uniquegeese a long time ago seeing him get so much recognition and fame from a project that he and many people love is so amazing to me i hope you and indigo park grow even more
28:30 what if she ment he hurt his fealings and pride
Congrats on Chapter 2 being funded! Can't wait for it!!!!! Loving this game so far!
23:26 This made me crack. "OH, THE BRITISH"
Honestly, I do think Rambley may turn out evil/bad.
Trust me, he won't
Rambley is love rambley is life
.....DO NOTTTT-
Wake up babe, new comfort character dropped
rambley, my favorite child.
WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO TO BE CALLED EVIL?!
Edit: with only 10 replies and 13??? likes, THE REPLIES GOT ME ROLLING 😭😭😭😭😭
He is my child too. He can be all of our child.
NEVERMIND HES JUST MY CHILD
@jakneez if he's my child I disowned him he sucks I hate that raccoon dammit I hope I get to kill him in the final chapter
NO HES ALL OF OURS @@jakneez
/j ofc
this probably gonna be my next hyper fixation
I'm more in the mindset that the rambley WE follow through the game is good. Like no joke, or trick or anything. Pure good natured, since he was stuck at the entrance.
While a different version or upgraded one is like Lloyd or Molly.
If there can be two Mollys there can be two Rambleys.
While I theorize there was another AI, which got corrupted. Possibly after an attempt to hack the park by a competitor went horribly wrong. Is the one who caused the whole park shutdown. Corrupting the other AI, rambley being immune to an extent at least the one at the entrance.
This AI being Salem, ironically used as the park's security system as opposed to Rambley being more of the greeting tour guide.
While the supposed hackers being the ones where that Lamb plush originated. Since as Rambley said it wasn't an Indigo Park object, must be from another place.. Belongs in the trash.
The lamb plush is actually a poodle! It’s a reference to another horror game called Playtime with Percy!
not sure its ai- like- physical rogue creature is probably closer to what you were saying but thinking of ai in the same sense as rambley just- doesnt click especially since you said two mollies that being likely ai and physical mollie. yknow? fleshyyy juicy body mollieeee hehe
Can’t wait to see Chapter 2. Also, just out of curiosity, the Rambley Mask that has an audio recording, when a guy says “old sport”, is that a Dayshit at Freddy’s Reference?
I think he said it is on stream
15:36
"For those of you who who don't know, that WAS a Dayshift At Freddy's reference"
I figured it was, I just wasn’t 100% sure, because old sport is a saying that’s been done before. I love that fan game. 😀👍
Dave Miller: Okay I see darkness darkness darkness kebab darkness
He did thankfully confirm that in this video, which does make more sense than Gatsby (the only character I think of that says old sport) working at Indigo Park
You can see him struggling to not say something all of this video and I love it.
Also - I haven't had the time to play the first chapter, and the DSAF reference was a bit of a jumpscare. I freaking love DSAF and Playtime with Percy, the references are all getting to me and it makes me feel like there are more I'm not getting lol.
I feel like a "listen to Rambley" text box type of thing on the collectables would help
Maybe the collectable menu would have you select a collectable, making it show you some text on the side, and then you can press a button labeled "ask Rambly" to trigger the rambly dialog.
Unrelated to the video, but I just had a realisation of how big this game is
Rambley is the top campaign in makeship, and as of writing this there are 9549 units sold, and assuming the sales cut is around, let's guess 70/30, that's 200k dollars ON TOP of the kickstarter that's about to hit 250k dollars.
*That's almost half a million dollars off of a single fucking chapter and the numbers are still rising...*
It's genuinely bizarre to watch Mason's videos and streams ever since he had around 90k subs 3 years ago and then see him getting this huge of a success, and I feel nothing but happiness for him, and if I, a rando on the internet that just happens to like his stuff, am this happy, I cannot imagine how Mason is feeling right now
1:00 -THE MAN BEHIND THE SLAUGHTHER IS TO TRU.....
I'm a big Disney Parks fan and I loved seeing all the references! Indigo Park is actually the first indie horror game I played since FNAF. I loved seeing the Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln reference banners on the mane stage and the rounded trash cans! It's something I haven't seen anyone mention yet and I think it should be appreciated :)
I like how he doesn’t spoil things and keeps us on edge
We love a developer like Unique Geese I mean cmon a humble and an overall a bubbly personality... what more could we wish for. Loved this video and the game itself! Great work!
My theory on the music video is that rambley isn’t “rewriting history”, he’s just repressing the memory of killing mollie because it hurts him to think about, and he would much rather believe he saved her.
I was also thinking of some sort of animal experimentation or something because of that "get back in your cage, bird" line
Rambley's not evil, he's just a little guy (that wants to take your soul).
He can have my soul
He already has mine
He could be evil and still take your soul, that sounds so weird out of context lol
My soul isn't worth much
he doesnt need my soul, he has a helper already by just being so cute n silly!(im the helper)
NightHawk made a theory too! I really like it, and I just noticed Mollie's art has no hands but her irl counterpart does(which goes with his theory)
Also NightHawk defends Salem in another theory vid!!
i think that rambly is honestly good since he just wants to help but I think he knows what happend and maybe he also knows that there is no saving his friends and wants to rebuild new ones ones that arent evil or under the influence of abuse or intoxicated
This man is a legend, reacting to a game theory about his game. I really hope to work as a VA for him one day.
We love our good boy! It's so refreshing to have a good companion. Too many games do the obvious and it's so nice to FINALLY have a friend through the scary stuff. We love our beloved Racoon.
I really hope Rambly isn't evil. He's my favorite silly boi! And I can't wait for Chapter 2 of this amazing game you're working on! I'll be waiting for it, but until then, toodles!
I am IN LOVE with Rambley! I love your game UniqueGeese! I love playing it!
You know you made it when game theory makes a video on u ❤
Loving this, your work is amazing and just starting! Keep it up!
so excited to see where the story goes! you guys are making some amazing stuff!
My personal theory is Ed is just Kevin Defunctland
WHO WROTE THE INDIGO PARK THEME THO???!!!!
INDIGO'S CRITTER CUFF: A COMPLICATED HISTORY!!!!!
So nice of uniquegeese to give smaller channels like game theory some exposure
22:06 - "The customer is always right in the manner of taste." I've been told this is the full quote.
I just watched someone play this and it's genuinely good. I thought I would hate Rambley when he first showed up, but he is the best part of the game. The voice acting, animation and writing are awesome. Super glad this game got funded. It's free and it's better than a significant number of paid games I've played
This theory is interesting. Please dont go down the Hello Neighbor devs route and try to adjust your story to match or twist the theories people make.
I'm glad the kickstarter fundraiser was successful! Great job, I can't wait to see chapter 2
I noticed the Jurassic Park and the DSAF references. I see you, and it’d be really cool if this project takes off
Wait, what was the jurassic park reference specifically?
@@walla_poolsaround 8:00